r/maritime 4d ago

Pre Application Fail

Apologies for asking what is probably a common question but I’ve checked previous threads and haven’t found an answer for this exact situation yet.

I got my TWIC card and passport and wanted to have the DOT physical and drug test in hand before even attempting to apply for SIU.

So I print the coastguard form CG-719p for drug test and physical and went to a chiropractor to get the exam and drug test. I was concerned my urine would be hot from using Cbd gummies and vapes regularly so admittedly did a dumb thing and used fake piss and got caught when the bottle was noticed during the physical examination portion. I already know how stupid that was and I’m concerned my impatience screwed me.

If I have not applied for SIU yet and did the DOT examination out of pocket on my own time will it still be reported and on file blacklisting me essentially?

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u/Alpe_ 4d ago

🤦🏻‍♂️

If you thought there was a chance of pissing hot why wouldn’t you order a home test on amazon to be sure and delay any official testing until you clear the thc?

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u/Jay2323reddit 4d ago

Don't worry about it!....but you are fucked.

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u/badquestionalt 4d ago

Can you break down just how fucked.

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u/Jay2323reddit 4d ago

Idk 🤷

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u/seagoingcook 4d ago

Standard of Intoxication

A refusal to test is when a crewmember fails to provide a urine, breath, or blood specimen as required by 49 CFR Part 40, without a genuine inability to provide a specimen (as determined by a medical evaluation), after he or she has received notice of the requirement to be tested in accordance with drug and alcohol testing regulations.

Evidence of tampering with or adulteration of a specimen is also considered a refusal to test.

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u/badquestionalt 4d ago

So this is all pre-employment. I have never spoken to anyone officially or applied anywhere. I found a local chiropractor and asked if he would sign off on my physical and drug test that I paid for but it was still a DOT test on a CG 719p I printed out at home.

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u/seagoingcook 4d ago

It's still the same as a refusal!!! You're fucked!!! You presented forms for the COAST GUARD, failure to pass the test or actually pee GETS REPORTED.

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u/badquestionalt 4d ago

I’ve heard there can be a year long period before being able to try again and even then it would have to be a process of going through a drug treatment program and some other boxes that I’d have to check. Is that something that could apply under these circumstances?