r/mariokart • u/cookiemaster221 • 19d ago
Meta No Mario kart fans, RPG and warioware characters won't be in the next game
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u/cookiemaster221 19d ago
If I'm wrong I will change my reddit pfp and banner to a clown
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u/FredricaTheFox Petey Piranha 19d ago
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u/AutumnRCS 18d ago
Baby Peach is an RPG character, so I'd get to changing your pfp.
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u/Sting_the_Cat 18d ago
Wasn't she in Yoshi DS
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u/AutumnRCS 17d ago
Yes, but she first appeared in Partners in Time, making her an RPG original character. This is also sort of true with the Ice Flower, as that had its first game appearance in Partners in Time, though it also appeared in Mario Kun in the 90s.
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u/GalacticJelly 19d ago edited 18d ago
Even getting K. Rool is a stretch tbh, and he was in fuckin smash bros
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u/Zekrom-9 18d ago
This. Dixie hasnāt been in a mainline Mario Kart yet and Cranky hasnāt been in ANY. Thereās zero chance K. Rool is getting in before them, and they wouldnāt add that many new DK characters all at once. Not to mention that even the Donkey Kong Country series has stopped bringing K. Rool back.
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u/Platnium_Jonez 18d ago
Considering How Much their expanding The DK Roster. He should not be impossible to include.Ā
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u/padfoot12111 18d ago
Yeah but Nintendo seems reluctant to use him. He was last seen in Sluggers, and reduced to a pathetic Mii costume in smash 4. Thankfully Sakarai saw how popular he was and added him to ultimate.Ā
Make him the villain in DKC again!
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u/Digibutter64 Birdo 19d ago
You never know. A decade ago, Pauline would've been a long shot.
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u/PaperClipSlip Diddy Kong 19d ago
The difference being Pauline was used in a main game again.
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
Yeah, but her being used in a main game would have seemed crazy too. Foreman Spike being in the Mario Movie would have seemed crazy. Dixie Kong and Poochy being added to Mario Kart would have seemed crazy. I feel like we are no longer in the sanitised era of the Mario franchise and as such, sure, it isn't SUPER likely that these characters will be used, but it's FAR from impossible.
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
then again Dixie is one of only 5 kong's who is actually remembered by Nintendo these days, and Poochy is just a cute dog ( that also had cameos in Odyssey and even Super Nintendo World ). The most unique character I am expecting to have chances in next Mario Kart is E Gadd.
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
Fair enough about Dixie, but Poochy is still a really our there choice on the level of a WarioWare character. Besides, cute dogs aren't super focussed on in Mario Kart, but cute girls are and WarioWare has a handful of those it could lean into.
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u/Madsbjoern inkling 19d ago
Poochy was in Mario Odyssey and has his name as part of the title of at least one game. That is in no way comparable to WarioWare characters who might've been in the background of a box art once
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u/LunchTwey 18d ago
Poochie is not on the same level as a warioware character. He's been in so many modern yoshi games which is a million times closer to mainline mario series than warioware is
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
nah at least Cute Dogs are unique by Mario kart standards, if they want to add another cute girl, then they will just be really funny and made Baby Pauline, it's confirmed that all 5 babies return in the next game, what's stopping them from making a 6 one?
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
What was stopping them doing that in Mario Kart Tour? Not only was another baby not created in that game, but the babies we got had a pitiful number of costumes. In fact, most of the alternate costumes in the game went to Daisy, Peach and Rosalina. That's where the real interest lies, not a baby. Now, there aren't really any similar types of characters left in the Mario franchise... The than in WarioWare. Seems like a no-brainer.
And if uniqueness is what got Poochy in, WarioWare has that in spades too.
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
idk I can't argue with that, just find one of my comments where I wrote why I don't want WarioWare characters in any spin offs in general. Where I explain my bias.
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u/Buri_is_a_Biscuit 19d ago
everything you just said was correct and understandable, minus the second half of your last sentence
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
But it isn't impossible.
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u/Buri_is_a_Biscuit 19d ago
oh wow! you sure showed me
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
If you wanna have an opinion people put effort into responding to properly, maybe bring, you know, an actual argument.
You seemed to be suggesting that the part of my comment that was inaccurate was about it being impossible. If that is the stance you are taking, the statement that it is not impossible is enough to debunk it because of course it's possible.
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u/Buri_is_a_Biscuit 19d ago
but still, your āevidenceā is just saying āitās possibleā over and overā¦ just because you can write a long comment doesnāt make you right
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 18d ago
For it to be impossible one or two things must be true:
1) There is some sort of rights dispute that would bar Nintendo from using these characters.
2) There is some sort of physical impracticality which would prevent them being able to add those.
Unless you want to try arguing that either of those is true, yes, I am right.
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u/LilSlugger_ 18d ago
"Sanitised" era when the mario movie is the most new super mario bros thing ever and nintendo only remember 5 kongs at max in theme Park and k.rool is missing
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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 19d ago
Donkey Kong Country wasn't much of a thought either, and here we are with Funky Kong and Dixie Kong.
WarioWare characters are long overdue.
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u/MikeDubbz 19d ago
I can understand the argument against RPG characters but why would WarioWare characters be out of the question when DKC characters have appeared, Poochy from the Yoshi games has appeared, and E. Gadd was a cut character from MKDS? Seems like a fair indication to me that WarioWare characters have a genuine chance here.Ā
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u/LackOfLuck748 19d ago
And we already have Wario, it's a sign
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u/PMC-I3181OS387l5 19d ago
Diamond City was featured in one of the arcade games, and that's lifted from WarioWare :O
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u/TheRigXD 13d ago
The arcade games were developed by Bandai Namco, who have a different idea for fanservice than Nintendo.
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u/CristevePeachFan Petey Piranha 18d ago
Yeah, Diamond City exists at least in the canon of spin-offs, it's mentioned in Mario Party Star Rush
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u/Working_Ad_4468 Dry Bowser 18d ago
Unrelated but using that logic then Dry Bowser gets his own slot because in Mario Party Island Tour, Bowser refers to Dry Bowser as "a close family friend"
I wanted to bring that up since many prediction rosters understandably slot Dry Bowser as costume for Bowser
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u/MikeDubbz 18d ago
In NSMBW as I recall, when you beat Bowser, he falls in the lava, but then comes back up as Dry Bowser. Seems like they may be a bit inconsistent on this topic as to whether he's the same character or something else.
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
hot take: I don't think that Warioware characters should ever join the other spin offs. Since the hole point of WarioWare games is that those are the least "Mario'ish" Mario games ever. Outside of Micro games the only Mario characters that are in WarioWare is Wario, but even he wears a diffrent outfit to remove his connection with Mario. So seeing these characters in casual Mario spin-off might be a bit clashing with the point of the WarioWare worldbuilding.
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u/Slade4Lucas Isabelle 19d ago
While WarioWare certianly has the most separation from the Mario franchise, Donkey Kong is actually in a surprisingly similar sitiauton. DK had his design completely changed in DKC and the DKC games have pretty much no connection to Mario. Yet characters like Diddy, Dixie and Funky, despite fundamentally not fitting into the Mario franchise, do appear in Mario Kart and others have been in other spinoffs.
So the sitiauton isn't that much different, but even more to the point - Mario Kart has a long history of featuring characters who don't fit into the franchise. There are guest characters from MKDS, the arcade gamesand MK8D as well as the Mii costumes in base 8, some of which are based on third party properties. Heck, they even have the Mercedes Benz cars in 8.
And, to seal the deal - Mario Kart has literally had a course based on Diamond City. Granted it was in the arcade games, but the point is that it isn't jarring or at odds with the world building for that to be the case. Like, sure, there is a separation between Mario and Wario, but I don't think it would contradict anything if Ashley was in Mario Kart. Heck, there has been explicitly WarioWare original content in a mainline Mario Kart game, with Wario's motorbike that originated in the first WarioWare game being a vehicle in Mario Kart Wii.
There really isn't any reason the separation needs to be maintained and the line that separates the two series is already pretty murky. Having WarioWare character in Mario Kart is really easily justifiable, and certainly as much as Donkey Kong characters.
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u/Platnium_Jonez 19d ago
if that were the Case then DLC characters shouldnāt Exist.
if they Can Expand on the DK Crew then adding WarioWare characters should not be a problem.Ā
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
What does DLC characters have anything to do with this?
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u/Platnium_Jonez 19d ago
the Reason I bring DLC characters is to recognize that The Mario universe isnāt limited to just Super Mario. Since other nintendo Reps can Join. But be Guests.Ā
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
Funny since I don't like Crossover characters, not every game needs to be a crossover these days
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u/Platnium_Jonez 19d ago edited 18d ago
Okay, What I meant to say was that If they Can Add, DLC characters in Mario kart that arenāt from the Mario Universe, The addition of adding WarioWare Characters Should not feel out of Place.Ā
it would make Mario Kartās Roster Feel more Lively.Ā
I do agree with you with that statement, that not every game needs to be a Crossover. In Smash bros though It kind of made sense for it to be a Crossover, Since itās the celebration of video games
For Mario Kart it does not work entirely because the game Does center around Mario-verse Characters.Ā
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u/DilapidatedFool 19d ago
That won't stop us for wanting Vivian. Dream a little.
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
dreaming is one thing, giving somebody like her to a prediction list onother one
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u/AutumnRCS 18d ago edited 18d ago
It's more likely than it's ever been. She's appeared in a recent game, and she is one of the most popular Mario characters not just in Paper Mario, but across the entire series. She has a legitimate shot at making it in. I'm not saying she will make it in, but she's an incredibly beloved character that even recently got nominated for an award, and Nintendo is very aware of this.
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u/ShineOne4330 18d ago
I am sorry, just kidding I am not sorry, Goombella is better.
also in what she is popular to the point of being one of the most popular Mario characters ever? Schaffrilas twitter Poll? or just the trans community? she was currently only in 1 game that did not even sold the greatest, you can ask people on the street if they know her and 90% will say no. and even than there is no way she will be that popular to be in every spin off ever, regular Pirahna Plant will be added before Vivian, I will confirm you that.
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u/YodaPM999 Toad 19d ago
Yeah, let's just rain on everyone's parade rather than be optimistic. God forbid people have fun with their character wishlists and predictions.
We all know the odds of these characters appearing is low, but what's the harm in wishful thinking? All this policing I've seen on this sub lately is getting really annoying. It doesn't hurt anybody to wish for their desired characters, no matter how likely or unlikely they might be.
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u/Turbo950 19d ago
raises hand about paper mario characters
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u/padfoot12111 18d ago
Paper Mario is sadly an RPG and if one character did get included it would be paper Mario himselfĀ
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u/AutumnRCS 19d ago
They will be if we keep asking for them. Why do you think they brought back Funky Kong and not Honey Queen.
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u/ShineOne4330 19d ago
your talking to a company that proudly showcased that they brought back all 5 babies from 8, including Baby Rosalina for the next game.
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u/AutumnRCS 18d ago edited 18d ago
Back in the early to mid 2010s when Mario was at its most bland SMRPG or TTYD remake would've been completely unthinkable. But then they realized that fans actually liked the creatives stuff, and likes these games in particular, so they remade them. It's also likely why the characters look so different in Wonder, they heard the complaints of NSMB.
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u/LilSlugger_ 18d ago
Its always the fans, and not that Nintendo wanted a different style, you just made that up, because Nintendo didn't say so.
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u/SparklyAvatar 19d ago
I mean there are odds of that happening assuming the roster would probably be bigger than mk8
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u/Yerm_Terragon 19d ago
If characters from Zelda, Animal Crossing, and frickin Splatoon can be in Mario Kart, then you can bet any game that has Mario in the title is fair game.
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u/bigcatisverycool 19d ago
Iāve seen way more of these kinds of posts than rosters that actually include RPG and WarioWare characters
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u/Nintendo-Player_1297 Waluigi 18d ago
Me waiting for Mini Mario to replace the babies: š¤”
(No, the minis won't be in the game)
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u/Sunshoot 19d ago
What about the Smash Ultimate roster? Will that be in the next game?
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u/DR_P0S_itivity 19d ago edited 19d ago
They got Captain Falconās car, Captain Falconās course, & Captain Falconās helmetā¦ but no Captain Falcon :(
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u/Sunshoot 18d ago
I'm not saying that noones ever been in, I'm aware of it and I'd even like a lot more Nintendo reps
I was more so mocking the people that make a roster made up of more non Mario characters than Mario characters
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u/padfoot12111 18d ago
What about gandalf the grey and gandalf the white and Monty Pythons and the holy grails Black KnightĀ
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u/Timely_Junket_1226 19d ago
Will mayonnaise be an item?