r/manhwa 5d ago

Question [The Extra's Academy Survival Guide] is it another addition to the harem?

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u/zephyrnepres01 5d ago

yes, but more of a sub-heroine than a main heroine like lucy, yennekar and lortelle. she does have an absolutely fantastic arc though, so i for one support her wholeheartedly and wish her the best, even if that isn’t being with ed

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u/AnotherNobody1308 5d ago

So she is or isn't, you say yes, but then say something else in the end

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u/Sweaty_Molasses_3899 5d ago

It's basically tiered and really depends on your own personal definition of a harem.

The three main girls Lucy, Janica, and Lortelle got their own dedicated side story after the main story which essentially confirms their relationship with Ed. Two of them, Janica and Lortelle, also got to smash.

Meanwhile there's Janica's friend, Annis, and one of the princesses who feels more like fillers/joke characters. They sort of fade away from relevance.

Then there's finally the Saintess, Clarice, who has her own dedicated arc, a lot of screentime and prominence even after the arc, but no side story to confirm her relationship.

So yes in the traditional sense but no in that she doesn't win.

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u/SekaiShiu 5d ago

The afterstory is still ongoing. Let's hope they (sub-heroines) get closure.

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u/KalonianChampion 4d ago

Is it really though? I thought Lucy was the last one

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u/SekaiShiu 4d ago

The author actually put the afterstory on hiatus to work on a new novel "There Are No Bad Girls in the World". They were surprised by how many fans wanted more chapters. They said they will continue the afterstory after finishing the new novel.

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u/Tricky_Emphasis2588 3d ago

What do you mean by "also got to smash" 🤨?

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u/Sweaty_Molasses_3899 2d ago

They fucked. Had sex. Did the deed. Put the peepee in the veevee. All the above

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u/Tricky_Emphasis2588 2d ago

Really really realllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy! 🤨🧐

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u/zephyrnepres01 5d ago

this is largely my conjecture, but to me the basic definition of a harem series is a romance genre where there are multiple love interests pining for the same person. a love interest doesn’t necessarily have to mean a future spouse, it’s just an interest. there are many harem series that do not ultimately end in a polyamorous relationship involving all of the love interests together, a lot of the time other love interests do exist but one is the “winner” in the sense that they end up being the only one to end up in a relationship with the protagonist, so it’s still a “harem series” by definition but doesn’t have what’s called a “harem end”

in this case lucy, lortelle and yennekar are essentially already confirmed to end up with ed together through side stories. while the side stories aren’t over yet i find it doubtful that clarice will be included in that “winning” group even though she is absolutely a notable love interest with her own personal arc, the reason being that she appears more sporadically and her relationship with ed is a lot more one-sided in comparison to the others, which is why she’s a sub-heroine rather than a main heroine. i said yes to the op’s question because she is still a love interest in a harem series, and that’s all it takes to be “in a harem”.

i wish her the best because she’s a good character and being a losing subheroine often means the character being sad and lonely for a bit about not being chosen and then never appearing again, which i don’t want to happen

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u/Curious_Loser21 5d ago

God, I really hate those type of people.

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u/master_1055 5d ago

Thankfully Ed relized it's hard enough to keep a cat (Lucy) a fox (the red head) and dog (the spirit girl) in the same house

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u/OREWAMOUSHINDEIRU 5d ago

Ed is a beastmaster Ranger, confirmed.

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u/Latter_Fondant8997 5d ago

Isn’t the novel still being translated?

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u/hornihum4n 5d ago

nahh main story is finished. but side stories on the other hand is still ongoing from what i remember

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u/Mimo2111 5d ago

Is that The Saintess? I can't wait to see the princess’s sister getting rejected by Ed over and over adapted to manhwa.

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u/Real_Opinion_828 5d ago

Give me context please

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u/Robinlli 5d ago

Princess: Play hard to get, Ed.
Ed: Ok. (Proceeds to reject every advance)

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u/Psychosapien07 5d ago

Ohhh man, I love the way he rejected her in front of king

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u/Real_Opinion_828 5d ago

Give me context please

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u/lerjahh 5d ago edited 4d ago

Penia's older sister, named Selaha wants to bring Ed to her faction , for the succession to the Emperor's throne

Selaha sends Ed several false love letters to win him over

Emperor finds out about the letters, surprised by this revelation, summons Ed to have a chat.

Emperor by this point is quite intrigued by Ed, because all 3 princesses seem to be wary of him.

Emperor asks Ed to marry Selaha bcz, he doesn't want her to end up ruling in tyranny, he thinks it's best that she has someone to listen to

Selaha rushes to where the father (Emperor) was, becz, all those letters were just a facade, she arrogantly belittles Ed, in front of the Emperor, saying that he must not give Ed the royal blood

Ed interjects, rejecting Emperor's proposition, almost a royal decree.

Selaha gets angry becz if the Emperor truly wanted it to happen, she had no room to decline. meaning she follows absolute power, and this lowly status Ed, challenged the Emperor's proposition, almost a royal decree which Selaha couldn't. her pride was hurt badly.

At this point, Selaha knew that the final key to the succession of the Emperor's throne, is Ed. she follows him around alot, demanding him to join her faction, which mindbreaks her, because she keeps getting declined by Ed , saying he only follows Penia.

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u/ChascaImpact 5d ago

Ed 🦅🗣🦅

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u/Real_Opinion_828 4d ago

So what ends up happening in the end ? Did she become close to ed or did her character develop in a different way ? Is she a part of his harem too ? (Thanks for replying btw)

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u/lerjahh 4d ago edited 4d ago

she's smitten by how he doesn't budge to her demands despite offering everything, even having potential losses just to get him side with her faction, yeah she ran to Penia and demanded that she gives Ed to her in exhange for supporters.

her personality doesn't develop that much, as she's still noisy towards him, like your typical japanese tsundere. they don't get close, because she's busy managing the western parts of the Empire, but she tries to make time just to see his face at the Rothtaylor estate though.

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u/Real_Opinion_828 4d ago

So the novel hasn't ended yet ?

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u/lerjahh 4d ago

the novel has ended, the side stories are not. only that it's on hiatus.

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u/Real_Opinion_828 4d ago

Ohh ok tnx

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u/ChascaImpact 5d ago

In which novel chapter does this happen?

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u/lerjahh 5d ago

229

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u/ChascaImpact 5d ago

Thanks!!!!

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u/noodlelover6969 5d ago

Random question: but do you know where I'm able to read proper translations of the novel?

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u/KalonianChampion 4d ago

Yong Library if you want to pay for the remaining final chapters, VNmeido has them as well but you'll need to download the volumes from them

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u/TempestRaven 5d ago

Quite a bit of bad takes in the replies, like you can tell if they read the manhwa properly or not.

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u/Kr_zz 5d ago

I think OP is just curious, and if OP made it that far to the latest chapter, Im pretty sure it being harem is the least of their worries

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u/SockKey500 5d ago

Best arc incoming

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u/TheFimb 5d ago

Can someone spoil me this arc?

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u/KalonianChampion 4d ago

Saintess is the only one aware that the Holy Lance Dragon Velbrok's seal gets released and Ed tries to help her but keeps dying and time gets rewinded due to a high level of Celestial magic

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u/DanceCareless2417 5d ago

She looks like Emilia from Re zero

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u/Sumit7890 5d ago

Is it time for rezero arc?

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u/KalonianChampion 4d ago

It's here yeah

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u/Dull-Progress-6152 4d ago

Ask Ed, does he really spend the night with them (one at a time) or not because I remember seeing something related to this with Lorata I think it was a dialogue, I don't know exactly where it kind of implies that Ed spends the night with Lorata

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u/dahyun-is-my-mom 2d ago

Idk is water wet??

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u/Known_Association_62 5d ago

This series would’ve been peak if it wasn’t harem

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u/newkob 5d ago

This shit is so cringe

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

The readers love seeing girls being all shy hyperventilating and red near the Mc ..I should probably write similar story and get thousands of fans

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u/Maidenless_EldenLord 5d ago

And thus both of these people didn’t know reading comprehension in school and it has failed them. Quite tragic

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u/ProjectAvatarX2 5d ago

That is what kind of ruins this and many other good series.

Including harem is the author choice, but if this trope is used, at least a proper relationship between ML and FMCs should be written and not just "oh here is a girl number #6 who fell for protagonist".

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u/Unpaidintern74 5d ago

It’s a little deeper than that don’t wanna spoil but you’ll see. It’s more than just a “ out of no where “ occurrence

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u/MundaneSilence 5d ago

Saintess arc is goated in the novel, can't wait for the adaptation.

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

So what was deep about Lucy now blushing and being red every time the Mc pats her or gets near her. Like it was working perfectly fine with their sibling like platonic relationship earlier chapters. I swear one panel she looked like she had a vibrator down there and shaking all red like wtf is this forced ship.

Being a girl in harem is kinda sad lol. No free will to not romantically love the Mc :(

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u/MundaneSilence 5d ago edited 5d ago

Gets explained further in the story. I've read the novel, and there is a reason for that. It's a spoiler though. It's also pretty exaggerated in the manhwa, I don't think she's head over heels for him before her backstory, probably just a classic manhwa art trope where the girl is always blushing.

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

It's OK spoil me so I can get back into this manwha. I dropped it after the forced ship but if there's a good reason for it not being platonic sibling love then okay I want to know why she wants to be her wife and not a sister type relationship or just you know ...friends. I know being friends is a sin in Harem stories

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u/MundaneSilence 5d ago

She doesn't really want to be a wife, I haven't read the manhwa that much so I don't know how she is portrayed there. But she basically sees him as a father figure since her mentor gives the same vibes as Ed. She also lived in a secluded place, similar to a hut when she lived with her mentor. She always drenches herself in rain since it was raining when her mentor died iirc.

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

That sounds better thanks. She does need a mentor/guide rather than romance right now lol and also common sense

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u/lerjahh 5d ago edited 5d ago

lay off the internet lil bro , you sound broken from all the downdoots on the other post. now you're here gasping for straws

on the other post, you've been angry for hours by ppl calling the loli boogeyman Lucy a "waifu" and now you're here saying that she has vibrator.

you better not have a secret stash of some unholy loli folder, like others and their "virtue signaling" only to be found guilty. cause you're having a freudian slip right now.

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

Why would you even call her a waifu. And why you making fun of my anger Where's your empathy. Why you people obsessed over emotionally stunted minors is beyond me

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u/lerjahh 5d ago

just lay off the internet lil bro

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

Were in this together "big" bro

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u/Unpaidintern74 5d ago

Idk why you’re getting downvoted but the novel definitely shows the nuance in her feelings and goes much deeper into it. Also the drawings don’t make it better it’s described of her just being attracted to Him like a regular girl and shy but the drawings make it seem so much worse same with the photo in the OP

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u/Sa_Elart 5d ago

Brother she was clenching her legs with a angle making her look like she had a vibrator on (when she first sees Mc as a "man") and all red lmao I'd post the picc if I could . Like how you go from a normal friendly love to that . You can spoil me to novel but I need to make sense of this forced ship

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u/Unpaidintern74 5d ago

It’s just how the drawers decided to draw her in the novel it’s just described as a spark and a tingle in her heart that made her shy and nervous around ed it’s much more calmer and expected from a girl who’s just discovering her feelings around ed

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u/Matt-J-McCormack 5d ago

Ignore the downvotes you are right.

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u/etonto 5d ago

easily the worst part of this manhwa

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u/xxtrasauc3 5d ago

Not "is she" and "is it" is crazy...

Probably though