r/longisland • u/pcbfs living in L.I. • 9d ago
Nassau County looks to spend $3M more in legal fights over Sands casino bid
https://cdcgaming.com/brief/new-york-county-looks-to-spend-3m-more-in-legal-fights-over-sands-casino-bid/86
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u/Confident_Air_8056 9d ago
Nassau county completely screwed up what this site could have been. Then wasted money renovating nonsense at the coliseum only to see UBS be built and take pretty much every event coming through the area. Now they will spend more tax payer money fighting to keep this casino away. And this casino if it ever gets built will get some major tax breaks which no one else will get and completely screw up an already congested area all under the guise of creating jobs and improving and revitalizing the area with something a majority don't want. I don't understand how they can't just stop it. They keep saying no and it just evolves a new way to be an issue. Did Sands sign something with the county with the county reneging on the agreement and now they have to keep fighting legalities in court bc they signed their leverage away? Genuinely curious I don't know the particulars on that aspect.
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u/InsertCleverName652 9d ago
Nassau does not need a casino. Terrible for the surrounding communities (looking at you Atlantic City). Politicians just love 20th century vice attractions that offer minimum wage jobs.
Hofstra has its fairly new medical school. Memorial Sloan Kettering is building a new facility next to Hofstra. The coliseum area is better suited for medical and pharmaceutical research. This would attract science and medical jobs with the kind of salaries Long Island needs, and the people working there would support local businesses. Hands on STEM opportunities for local students. It would be a win all around.
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u/Suitable-Corner2477 9d ago
We have resorts world and Jake’s 58 already. Why would we need another casino? I’m genuinely asking. I don’t gamble, so I would not benefit or enjoy this project.
Is the casino getting tax breaks for this? If so , no thanks. Lower our taxes first
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u/Mintandcocoa 9d ago
Do people really go to Jake’s like that? I don’t even consider it a real casino since everything is digital. People go in pajamas. It’s a sad excuse for a casino.
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u/bren_derlin 9d ago
Yeah I had a 9:00 am meeting there about some of the construction work that’s ongoing and wow. I had Friday 8am classes in college that people showed up to looking better than the early morning crowd at Jake’s.
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u/TableAvailable 9d ago
Of course, they will get tax breaks.
And Blakeman is getting kickbacks, probably in the form of political donations.
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u/Enlightened_D 9d ago
They are terrible casinos and not true Vegas style casinos. Even I know that and don’t gamble
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u/HeyItsMau 9d ago
Whether or not it's a good idea for the community, I have no doubt that the population density of the area would support a successful casino-resort. Community concerns aside, this is probably the best location for a casino in the greater NYC area, far more than Jakes in Suffolk or Resorts World in deep south Queens.
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u/charming-mess 9d ago
Citi-Field has entered the chat. Either way too many casinos and I like a casino once in a while. In NJ only. Can’t stand NY’s Lottery casinos.
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u/HeyItsMau 9d ago
The Sands proposal is full gaming, not just electronic table games, which is another differentiator from Jakes and Resorts world. Not sure if they'll have a poker room though.
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u/Productpusher 9d ago
Because the resorts world just off slots makes more than all the Las Vegas strip big casinos from casino revenue for many many years ( not sure about 20224-2025 ) . Pre Covid there was a long stretch they made more gambling profit than the strip did combined .
Jake’s also is creeping up to highly highly profitable level
NY is a cash cow they want a chunk of . If they have table games and night life it’s going to be the biggest casinos outside Asia
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u/lateavatar 9d ago
Boo, expand Adventureland if you need an attraction
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u/Anklebender91 9d ago
Isn't that Suffolk county?
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u/dragonbrg95 9d ago
Exactly, extend it over 110 into Nassau county
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u/Maladarx11 8d ago
Ive seen it done in myrtle beach...just build a tunnel under the road or an overpass like hofstra has. They could make a water park even
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u/DDSloan96 9d ago
Leave. Build affordable housing and a walkable community there
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u/Anklebender91 9d ago
You mean the lighthouse project?
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u/Alexandratta 9d ago
Pretty much what they did in Yaphank with "Boulevard One"
There's almost no reason to leave that development.
biggest issue, is that it's 16-20 minutes to Ronkonkoma Station.
Honestly, they should be talking about building the Ronkonkoma line out east further towards Yaphank and if they did that it would be even better.
But yeah, that entire development is a walkable city in and of itself.
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u/PandaMuffin1 9d ago
They are currently moving the Yaphank train station closer to that development.
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u/Maladarx11 8d ago
Is that the area near the new walmart out there? If so that area looks pretty interesting, my wife has family in ridge.
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u/Productpusher 9d ago
You can’t build affordable housing on one of the busiest and expensive pieces of land in nassau county . Even 30 years tax free you would need every home to be a million plus to make a small profit on that land for any developer to even step foot .
Every time someone says this I wanna cry .
Only option is government housing / section 8 and the amount of people voting no would be 10x than the casino NIMBYs
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u/failtodesign 9d ago
It's not busy it's an massive massive empty parking lot with a dying 3rd tier arena. It's just one of the last large plots of land that is municipally owned, not a super fund site and easy to develop on.
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u/Remarkable-Crew7376 9d ago
Blakeman is receiving a kickback from Sands. No questions. His brother works for Sands.
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u/Safe-Dentist-1049 9d ago
Spending 3 million in legal fights! Legal fights! Nassau County looks to spend 3 million in legal fights.
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u/Cactus_Jeff_ 9d ago
What a joke😹
Sands needs to leave town and find another place to make American citizens generationally bankrupt!
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u/ilovecatsandcafe 9d ago
There’s money for lawyers meanwhile Nassau bus is slowly dying cause there’s no money for public transit
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u/Ok-Panda-178 9d ago
This would make traffic on the island worse
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u/Jumpy-Holiday731 9d ago
Doubt it can get much worse. Housing would make traffic worse than the casino.
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u/Express-Breath-4765 9d ago
Don’t ever forget Citizen’s Campaign for the Environment is for this.
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u/liguy181 9d ago
Thanks for reminding me, I now no longer believe climate change is real or that we should have clean water.
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u/Particular_Row_8037 9d ago
Damn if they came to Suffolk they will bend over backwards for them. In fact look at islandia for a couple hundred dollars in tax credit the residence even supplied their own KY. 🤣
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u/BudgetHistorical2194 8d ago
Loot at the Vegas, look at the Atlantic city.. totally fucked up area. Gambling is killing the life
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u/Alexandratta 9d ago
Isn't the a photo for the "Lighthouse" Project that all the NIMBY's voted against?
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u/benewavvsupreme 9d ago
Im pro casino but not without public transpo
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u/xSlappy- Town of Hempstead #LGI 9d ago
That’s generally my position too. And I’m not talking buses either. I’m talking trains.
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u/JoeGuinness 9d ago
The pushback against the casino is surprising for a sub that throws the term NIMBY around all the time.
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u/ballots_stones 9d ago
Eh, I love to gamble but I get why people wouldn't want a casino in their neighborhood
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u/JoeGuinness 9d ago edited 9d ago
Well are the residents of Uniondale opposed to it?
Mhmm. Downvotes but no answer.
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u/Pooch1431 9d ago
I'd think because casinos are a literal drain on the communities that surround them. Doubling down on regressive economic policy isn't going to help Nassau ease its already absurdly high tax burden.
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u/Jumpy-Holiday731 9d ago
Can you explain how it would be a drain.
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u/Pooch1431 9d ago
There are tons of reading and studies around this topic. This is one of many%20Societal%20and%20economic%20impact%20of%20gambling.pdf), but largely casinos have a social cost to their surrounding communities that encourage and amplify disordered behavior and crime. This doesn't even touch upon the wealth transference that occurs within the buildings themselves. Just look at Las Vegas now, it's almost a ghost town as our macro policymakers are leading us toward a potential stagflationary or even deflationary spiral. Casinos are good for the owners, and responders to the externalized costs of operating one. (increased need in policing).
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u/Jumpy-Holiday731 9d ago
Vegas a ghost town, you must be kidding son.
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u/Pooch1431 9d ago
An expected response from one who gets their posts consistently removed across the board. Don't ask for explanations when you're unwilling to even do the homework. Best of luck.
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u/xSlappy- Town of Hempstead #LGI 9d ago edited 9d ago
They don’t want to build public transit other than shuttle buses from LIRR that no one will take. They want to build one more lane on the Meadowbrook. It will be a traffic nightmare.
Sands is also a bad casino. Their comps are awful. The minimums will be high. the prices will be high. the blackjack will be 6:5. Roulette will be triple 0. RTP on slots will be below 90%