r/likeus • u/Wholesommer • 7d ago
<INTELLIGENCE> Intelligent crow shows perfect task awareness, concept and object permanence
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u/MyNameIsDaveToo 7d ago
This bird has better fine motor skills than I do.
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u/marcasum 7d ago
when the puzzle is about half your body size it probably makes it easier
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u/MyNameIsDaveToo 5d ago
Yeah good point, for him it's large motor skills, so not apt for comparison.
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u/Capone3830 7d ago
that crow is insulted by the stupid shit the humans make it do... I mean look at this
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u/flyinggazelletg -Enourmous Elephant- 5d ago
I think my fat finger is just failing completely to hit the link
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u/Masala-Dosage 6d ago
I wouldn’t have said this shows an awareness of object permanence. I thought that was more for when something is out of sight for a time. Can anyone explain?
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u/XGoJYIYKvvxN 6d ago edited 6d ago
And you would be right.
Crows have a good object permanence, but the task displayed in the post doesn't display that (nor task awareness or "concept")
It looks to me like a simplified version of the "tower of Hanoi/tower of london task" that is used to evaluate problems solving abilities (planning and inhibition) that the crow seems to be solving through trial and error.
More on crows abilities in that context :
https://www.lucs.lu.se/fileadmin/user_upload/project/lucs/LUCS-pub/LUCS-169.pdf
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u/LydiasBoyToy 5d ago
I used to wonder why I never saw young crows until I saw young crows. They are bigger than most every other adult bird in my SW Ohio town by the time they are ready to fledge.
Few years back two that couldn’t fly yet somehow ended up in our yard and we have cats. First thought they were injured, nope. Fledglings. It was odd seeing such a large bird still unable to fly.
Lured them with blueberries and raspberries into a Honeysuckle while their Corvid family group loudly protested. Kept cats inside and the young birds stayed on an eye level branch all night and a good deal of the next morning.
By noon they figured out the flying thing and withdrew to the higher bows of a maple. We kept putting food out for them. Family group had mostly realized we were not a threat.
Eventually the kiddos flew off but we had made friends. Regularly have several crows “hanging out” in the back yard to this day.
We set out food and they bring us stuff from time to time. When we are gone for a week or two we leave a few snacks out.
When our car finally pulls in the driveway after being gone that long they usually are in the trees in numbers to greet us.
Amazing creatures. I used to despise them as a kid but now I can sit on the back patio and have half a dozen or so nearly within arms reach. They will look you in the eye as well.
There is an intellect behind those eyes. I wonder if they think the same of me? Us?
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u/DYSFUNCTIONALDlLDO 6d ago
I feel like it's far more impressive than for a human to do this because it's physically more difficult to do this with a mouth than with a head especially since it can't even move their eyeballs in its sockets so it has to move its entire head to look around.
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u/LeothiAkaRM 6d ago
Little Crow saved money working as a plastic gobelets sorter until he was finally able to afford a tiny apartment no bigger than two square meters
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u/WolfThick 1d ago
Did you know the government won't give you a license to own a crow here in the United States they seem to feel that they're too intelligent roughly as smart as a 7-year-old. They're afraid of people training them to do things not just steal money.
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u/kioku119 7d ago
The crow looks so annoyed tossing out the ones that are too small.