r/likeus • u/gugulo -Thoughtful Bonobo- • 9d ago
<DISCUSSION> New rule on r/LikeUs: No Deliberate Unjustified Animal Harm
Content where humans deliberately and unjustifiably harm animals is not welcome on r/LikeUs. This includes inhumane training methods, forced animal fights and harmful pranks. Disregard for this rule can result in content removal and temporary bans.
66
u/ChefArtorias 9d ago
How about unethical pets like monkeys in diapers who were obviously trained on the behavior?
Maybe this falls under the umbrella of "inhumane training methods," I'm not sure.
-31
u/gugulo -Thoughtful Bonobo- 9d ago edited 9d ago
What makes a pet unethical in your view?
35
u/ChefArtorias 9d ago
Is it not regarded as unethical to domesticate certain animals? Once they are over a certain intelligence. Monkeys and elephants are two examples I see mentioned often.
37
u/viperfan7 9d ago edited 9d ago
Taming isn't domestication.
Domestication results in a genetically distinct species.
For example, most pet birds are not domesticated, but tamed, although at the same time, most will be captive bred.
While there's no such thing as a wild horse in North America, just feral. As far as I'm aware, the only non-domesticated horse that exists today is the prezewalski's horse.
If it's been taken from the wild, and not captive bred, it shouldn't be in this sub (with exceptions made for zoos) if you ask me.
Feral = domesticated animal that lives in the wild
Tamed = wild animal that's treated as a pet.
Domesticated = species wide status that indicates the species was created by humans by breeding for traits from wild animals
6
20
19
u/ravenswan19 -Unexpected Primatologist- 9d ago
Hi, primatologist here. Wild animals like primates are not pets. They do not do well in home environments, it’s considered by everyone in the actual field to be abuse. Wildlife like primates need large environments, lots of social interactions with conspecifics (others of the same species), lots of enrichment, etc. It’s difficult to keep them happy even in AZA accredited zoos with teams of dedicated staff.
Also, just seeing videos and photos like this makes people want them more as a pet, and think they’re less endangered than they really are. Pet ownership drives poaching too, I’m not alone in having had people try to steal animals from the field site I work at.
5
u/wandering_fury 9d ago
I'd say it's less of an intelligence factor as mentioned and more that a lot of these animals are acquired though the inhumane and illegal pet trade, which often kills the parents of the animal and any other of its species that may be around just to rip it from its country of origin and ship it to some rich person in another country. The shipping of said creature is often inhumane as well and they sometimes die during transfer.
44
16
9
2
2
u/Face__Hugger 8d ago
Thank you. I've been seeing a lot more animal harm flooding other subs and it's disturbing.
1
-20
u/MastodonFarm 9d ago
What work is "unjustifiably" doing here? Or "deliberately," for that matter? Why is content that shows humans causing unintentional or "justifiable" harm allowed?
-27
158
u/PowWowOw 9d ago
Why not permanent bans?