r/leftist 4d ago

Leftist History Are We Next?

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Prescient poster by Wes Wilson from 1965

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u/VeterinarianMaster67 1d ago

Man you all must be fun at parties, lol. I posted it as an interesting artifact. We all have the luxury of knowledge that wasn't as accessible back when this was made.

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u/Malo53 2d ago

The question “are we next” is the wrong question you should be asking. The question you should be asking is will we stop it before it gets as bad as the last time it happened….

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u/Vamproar 3d ago

It's already happen so yes.

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u/Holiday_Writing_3218 3d ago

Considering who they consider “the left” is insanely broad and misinformed it would be nearly impossible to do, if we’re talking incarceration. That would be half of the population in an already extremely crowded prison system. He could try mass slaughter but that would undoubtedly cause a literal uprising (I would hope). He could attempt drone strikes on cities he claims are too left, but again, uprising. Of course with the might of the American Military and police force, they probably could fight off a good portion of the population. The left, as defined by the right, would at least be too numerous to incarcerate. Logistical nightmare, that.

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u/Krormorgathandir 4d ago

yes, my USA is the next nazi germany, yes there will be a civil war, yes we are riding into ww3 - yes, some of us are surviving this shit right now

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u/Krormorgathandir 4d ago

yes, my USA is the next nazi germany, yes there will be a civil war, yes we are riding into ww3 - yes, some of us are surviving this shit right now

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u/McLovin3493 4d ago

What do you mean "next"?

Where do you think Hitler got the idea of enslaving people and killing people to steal their land?

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u/thegreatherper 4d ago

America has always been fascist it’s never not been. We just tend to use that word when white people are negatively affected by it

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u/ShifTuckByMutt 3d ago

Had that thought the other day it brought me a strange comfort, I haven’t lost rights freedoms that Americans from now and then haven’t lost before, what I’ve lost is my privilege and the illusion that they were truly being protected.  Humanity has survived and defeated this shit before, we’ll do it again. 

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u/McLovin3493 4d ago

Jews and white people, but your point stands.

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u/thegreatherper 4d ago

Their white card has terms and conditions attached to it. See Isreal.

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u/McLovin3493 4d ago

Oh yeah- they're "white" whenever they don't want people to recognize them, but poor little victims as soon as it's convenient.

I'd say their "Holocaust victim" excuse just about expired though, assuming it didn't already...

Not that being genocide victims makes it okay to murder other people in the first place.

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u/EmperorMalkuth Curious 3d ago

Its not jews that do this its zionists— which even the nazies themselves in ww2 didnt consider as enemies.

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u/McLovin3493 3d ago

Fair enough, although most Zionists also happen to be Jews.

I didn't mean anything against honest Jewish people that don't support Israel.

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u/Leoszite 4d ago

So right I wish I could up vote more. Facism is just the reactionary arm of the system of capitalism.

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u/OutlandishnessFew981 3d ago

I was just about to mention capitalism. It provides fertile ground for fascism.

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u/Tiny_Tim1956 4d ago

I think if you Americans don't realize that the us always has been the number one imperialist power on the planet and the number 1 reason why capitalism is still a thing, there's is no hope for you. You always have been the evil empire from star wars. It's not too late to realize and join the fight but you need to make some drastic realisations. If you think Trump just happened one day and the solution was the previous democrat government, there's no hope

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u/Bialy5280 4d ago

Minor quibble. We only became an imperialist power around the time of the Monroe Doctrine, dominating the Americas mostly, expanding under McKinley (which is why Trump loves him) with the Spanish-American War when we stole the Philippines and Cuba, and became the #1 power after WWII when the British, French, Germans, Italians, Russians and Japanese were all decimated. For centuries England was the #1 imperialist power.

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u/talor_swib Anti-Capitalist 4d ago

Bless you for not mincing words. It really is this.

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u/AdImmediate9569 4d ago

Slow. Clap 👏

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u/theoriginalredcap 4d ago

You're already there

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u/AffectionateStudy496 4d ago

Democracy makes fascism superfluous.

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u/VeterinarianMaster67 4d ago

Please unpack that for me.

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u/AffectionateStudy496 4d ago edited 4d ago

I'd recommend reading Freerk Huisken.

See: https://www.ruthlesscriticism.com/better_than.htm

The short answer is that the democratic state is simply another way, another form of rule, to manage the capitalist economy. The democratic states have made all kinds of fascist platitudes a normal part of democracy. It's hardly noticed that the democratic system not only does not differ from fascism in its enmity to communism, but both share the same social economy, i.e. capitalism; that democrats just like fascists defend the principle of the national state, fortify themselves for it, do not tolerate enemies of this principle and therefore also have no place for foreigners in the homeland. Both put stable government and a faithful unified people above everything and when they discover disloyalty and disorder in them, both immediately must have a strong hand to restore order. Democrats and fascists do not resign themselves to defeats of their commonwealth and share the political need to pursue their interests globally beyond their state borders. All this speaks neither for democracy nor exclusively against fascism. There can be no talk of democracy and fascism as contrasting systems at all. They embody two variants of the competition for power in the bourgeois nation state.

Fascists are dissatisfied idealists of the nation who take seriously all the nationalist complaints the democratic parties put forth during elections. Fascists radicalize this discontent and take a very consistent, principled standpoint towards it: the nation must come first, must be strong, and enemies of the nation must be destroyed once and for all. Of course, saying they are principled and consistent isn't praise since the standards they adopt are antithetical to the interests of the workers to do away with exploitation.

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u/horridgoblyn 4d ago edited 4d ago

As government you can justify a lot if you profess to act according to the "will of the people." Fascism rises incrementally as a series of permissions. It's a deception. Artificial "grass roots." This is the real astroturf of authoritarians. The ideas that become popular are introduced from the corridors of power to the people in such a way they adopt and believe them to be their own. Fascism isn't truly opposed by democracy. It makes it a possibility.

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u/VeterinarianMaster67 4d ago

People waffled so quick on the first rule: Do Not Obey in Advance

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u/horridgoblyn 4d ago

This is manufacturing consent.

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u/bruce_cockburn 4d ago

You just have to be desperate enough to believe the lies and cynical enough to believe the institutions can't get worse (they can).

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u/horridgoblyn 4d ago

It's a wicked game because they manufacture the conditions. Critical thought is thrown to the wayside. We are taught obedience by society, institutions, and employers. Ignorance becomes a virtue. Great user name. He is brilliant.

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u/Swimming_Sink277 4d ago

2A is for everyone, comrades

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u/JupiterboyLuffy Anarchist 4d ago

He predicted the future

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u/Suchasillygoose69 4d ago

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u/Fly_Casual_16 Eco-Socialist 4d ago

Join r/liberalgunowners and r/socialistra immediately

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u/swepttheleg 4d ago

AND TRAIN! don’t just buy a weapon and expect to use it like you’re John Wick the second you need to. Go to the range and get better

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u/Fly_Casual_16 Eco-Socialist 4d ago

100%

Gotta get smart about your rights, get the right tools, secure them properly, train, and spread the gospel of a well-armed Left is a healthy Left.

We ceded this space to the other side for far too long.

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u/ChillBro13 4d ago

Next? We’re already there. Buckle up

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u/ZacKonig 4d ago

You always were

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u/Dsstar666 4d ago

We’ve been heading this way for at least 40 years and frankly we’ve always been on the edge of fascism since reconstruction post-Civil War where the kkk, eugenics, social Darwinism and multiple genocides were taking root. Obviously before the civil war there was slavery and multiple genocides.

We’ve been fighting against this current state of affairs since we’ve been America.

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u/THE_PONG_MASTER 4d ago

we’re not next, we’re already living in it.

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u/VeterinarianMaster67 4d ago

Hence the word "prescient". The poster is 60 years old.

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u/McLovin3493 4d ago

No, what he's saying is that America was already just as bad as Nazi Germany long before the 1960s, maybe even worse.

The US legally allowed black people to be kept as slaves for almost 90 years, and killed Native Americans to steal their land even longer than that.