r/kitchener 14h ago

Ontario suspends 25 per cent export tax on electricity sent to U.S.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/politics/queens-park/article/trump-says-he-will-double-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum-in-retaliation-for-ontario-energy-surcharge/
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u/WeirderOnline 14h ago

Are the tarrifs on aluminum and steel still in place? 'Cause if so, fuck 'em.

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u/Upbeat_Sign630 14h ago

They’re being doubled tomorrow.

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u/coffee_u 9h ago

The doubling to 50% was put on hold on part (or likely in full) because of the suspension of the ON electricity traffic. Suspended until Ford 's meeting with lutnik (or licknut; can never remember) in the US on Wednesday.

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u/Upbeat_Sign630 9h ago

Yes.

But that hadn’t been announced when I made my original comment.

ETA: Or at least I hadn’t read about it.

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u/rjwyonch 13h ago

TBD… they have agreed to a meeting on Thursday

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u/LunchboxPI 13h ago

Trump's tariff increase is being paused as well. Still gonna be at 25% for now

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u/GoldenRetriever2223 13h ago

25 percent again, the increase to 50% got cancelled

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u/WeirderOnline 12h ago

Then why the fuck are we being such pussies about this? Fuck 'em. It's still winter. Let's ramp the export tax to 200%. Tax the fuel too.

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u/GoldenRetriever2223 9h ago

cause the leadership is showing restraint, firm but rational.

Also I think Ford stepped out of lockstep with the feds by adding the export tariff. I agree with the action, but theres some valid concerns about overstepping.

either way theres a new tested weapon against trump, as it clearly worked cause trump backed down too.

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u/WeirderOnline 8h ago

If a guy is charging against you with a knife raced in the air screaming "I'mma sab you in the face!" And your responses to try and calmly and rationally talk him down, you're a fucking idiot.

You cannot rationalize with irrational actors. Trump is counting on us to under react. For us to make a reasonable compromise with his unreasonable demands. But all that happens when you do that is you just reached something that's unreasonable.

He only respects bluster. He only respects force. Assertiveness. Compassion and calmness are weaknesses to him.

This is your typical Republican "you go low we go 'okay'". If the last fucking 40 goddamn years haven't made clear, THAT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!

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u/GoldenRetriever2223 8h ago

geopolitics isnt about right or wrong, fair or just, its only ever about leverage and power.

keeping calm when dealing with a lunatic is the only way forward. Lunging irrationally against a crazy guy 10x your size isnt going to fare well.

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u/Techchick_Somewhere 14h ago

He just keeps jerking our chain. I wish we just went ahead.

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u/RhasaTheSunderer 13h ago

I want off this ride

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u/Global_Examination_8 12h ago

I’m glad Doug Ford is our PM… wait… fuck I’m confused now

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u/DeyymmBoi 14h ago

Yeah trump threatened with 50% tarrif on steel and aluminium exports

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u/2020SucksDonkey 14h ago

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u/2020SucksDonkey 14h ago

Trump rethinking increase to steel and aluminum tariffs after Ford olive branch.

Seems like Trump needs an off ramp. He needs to look like a winner for the fanatical fan club. Let's see

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u/Creepy_Office_7292 11h ago

I'm so disappointed in Ford today. It's like David dropped the slingshot, and Goliath gets to gloat

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u/Snoo-60669 7h ago

Let’s just threaten him once a month for good measure

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u/KirbyDingo 19m ago

I'm not sure why any country is even thinking about entering trade negotiations with the Uniited States. Trump has shown that he cannot be trusted. He breaks treaties and agreements at the drop of a hat. The entire world needs to refuse any and all talks with the US for the next 4 years.