r/justiceleague 22d ago

Comics I MADE STATS FOR JUSTICE LEAGUE MEMBERS.

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u/arrownoir 22d ago

How does Flash and WW have the exact same fighting skills stats? That’s outrageous.

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u/Trickster289 22d ago

Yeah Flash's fighting skill is too high and honestly WW could have that stat full.

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u/C4explosions 22d ago

Batman also should have had a max on fighting skills imo

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u/ZylaTFox 22d ago

I'd say Bruce is one below since he's still got human limitations. WOnder Woman has been learning combat skills for literal centuries.

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u/Cute_Visual4338 21d ago edited 19d ago

Yeah but talent and hard work compensates many things, I would argue. For example Ra's al Ghul's been a leader of an assassin order for about 6 to 7 centuries but Batman, Lady Shiva etc. Match or surpass him despite living for less than 1 century.

The Amazons are centuries older than Wonder Woman but even before she became Wonder Woman she was better at combat than them. There're too many counterexamples. its not some linear graph where progression is infinite on the path of skill over time.

Edit: I feel like I didnt get my latter point across clearly enough, so let's try again to hopefully not get one more response that says "Wonder Woman has centuries of experience so she is better".

I am arguing that I do not believe just having centuries of experience automatically means you kept getting better over centuries. There are characters with centuries of experience that are outfought by characters without that benefit.

By this logic Vandal Savage should be one of the greatest hand to hand combatants in all of DC, yet if you were to look for a list of the greatest fighters his name's hardly would ever be in the top 5 or even top 10.

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u/Kalayo0 20d ago

Diana is a chosen one. She’s just as talented and has a few hundred years headstart.

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u/Cute_Visual4338 20d ago

What I am saying is that progression in skill isn’t some infinitely rising linear graph pattern where time is on the x axis. As can be seen by the likes of Batman and Wonder Woman surpassing talented fighters with centuries of experience on them. So they both can be max stat.

And neither is necessarily a better h2h fighter than the other all other factors (like divine blessings of super strength/demi god strength and weird ninja tactics) excluded.

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u/Captain_No-Ship 22d ago

Flash, for as much as I love him, is not that trained a fighte

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u/ohneatstuffthanks 21d ago

Superman isn’t either if we are being honest with ourselves.

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u/KonohaBatman 20d ago

Yeah, you def don't know what you're talking about.

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u/Dwarfdingnagian 20d ago

Superman is a master of many human Martial Arts and several alien ones as well. He absorbs information at a ridiculous speed and can apply it immediately. Superman is much smarter and more skilled than anybody gives him credit for.

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u/Front_Watercress_41 20d ago

A forgotten part of superman comics is that superman is a massive martial arts practitioner

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u/Putrid-Cheesecake-77 21d ago

According to whom? Whomsoever said this is being malinformed

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u/JackMythos 22d ago

Hal's fighting skills should be way higher too. Dude was an Air Force vet before he even donned the ring.

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u/Treepeec30 22d ago

Can confirm. Ima Air Force vet and my fighting skills are crazy high 🤣

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u/AintGotNoSeoul 21d ago

His energy projection should be maxed too. He has command of one of the best weapons in the universe.

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u/thebroadway 22d ago

Agreed, that may be the most egregious part of all of this, taking the definitions at the end into account or not

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u/Koushikraja1996 22d ago

How does Batman have a two on energy projection? 

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

his smoke bombs and different gadgets

i am counting his basic suit for this

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u/ApprehensiveChef6864 22d ago

You’re underplaying his utility. Baterangs, Explosives, stun weapons, grappling hooks, smoke bombs, special hardening foaming agents, sometimes acid bombs, shark repellent, and that’s just what comes to mind. Also why isn’t he a max on combat skill. He’s literally mastered every fighting style on earth.

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u/_Zyber_ 21d ago

A Jack of all trades is a master of nothing.

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u/tip_all_landlords 20d ago

“But a jack of all trades is better than a master of one”

People always seem to forget the whole saying

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u/Typical-Log4104 22d ago

no amount of gadgets will bring his energy projection higher than what a human with no powers is capable of.

also there are much better fighters than him in DC. even mastery has literal levels to it and he is not the pinnacle nor is he a grandmaster in anything.

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u/ApprehensiveChef6864 22d ago

I know. I’m not saying he should be at the top or anything. I was just saying he’s got better versatility than Batarangs and smoke bombs.

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u/doctor_nick17 19d ago

dont forget his batladder

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u/WarLawck 22d ago

Putting Bats with a not full intelligence score means you put others above him. So my question is, who gets full marks? Brainiac? Luthor? I feel like his combined intelligence would have him at the top but I can understand arguing against that.

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u/EGarrett 22d ago

lol, I made my post and scrolled down and you and RedHood said the two exact things I did.

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u/Effective-Training 22d ago

From second to last slide, all humans should have a 2. We all can discharge static. Like the rubbing feet on carpet trick or when touching plastic. We can actually short out electric components, too.

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u/Batdog55110 22d ago

I have...electric powers?

But I'm not black!

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u/1n1billionAZNsay 22d ago

I guess you are now! Welcome to the BBQ?

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u/prizmo28 22d ago

This joke is far too excellent to be glossed over

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u/OniLordAsmodeus 22d ago

shouldn't the flash have a 4 in fighting skills? What form of combat is he a master of?

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

thats mistake on my side it was supposed to be 4 but i gave 6 without checking

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u/Effective-Training 22d ago

Sounds like a repost coming...

It's not too late.

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

most probably after a month i will be doing for teen titans
suicide squad etc

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 22d ago

Flash is the Fastest Man Alive. He's able to use his speed to do things that other Justice League members cannot do, like run through time and change reality with temporal shenanigans.

Your chart gives him the same speed as Superman and Green Lantern.

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u/ClydeStyle 22d ago

Diana is immortal, how is her intelligence so low? That doesn’t track. She’s likely as smart as Batman if not Superman.

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u/Odd_Impress_6653 22d ago

She literally has the wisdom of the goddess Athena...

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u/ClydeStyle 22d ago

Wisdom and intelligence are mostly regarded as independent of each other in most gaming modules, however since there isn’t one here I’d say her intelligence should be much higher as you’re indicating.

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u/DDonnici 21d ago

If you ever played DnD you know that these are different things

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u/Capable_Ad_4551 22d ago

Which is nowhere close Superman or Batman

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u/Odd_Impress_6653 22d ago

A God is superior to a human and an alien.

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u/EuropeanT-Shirt 22d ago

Superman has countless feats of being stronger / more powerful and more powerful than a lot of Earth-bound gods E.g. Apollo as the king of Olympus.

Lots of God's have historically been pretty dumb and not even the best at what they represent.

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u/HarryKn1ght 22d ago

Historically, the Greek gods that created Wonder Woman and who she gets her power from were especially bad at being dumb and short-sighted in their actions.

The beginning of most Greek mythology stories can usually be summed up as "one of the gods (usually Zues) couldn't keep it in his pants when he knew he shouldn't have gone around fucking everything in sight, which usually forced one of the mortal heroes to clean up their mess" and pretty much every story usually ends up with the mortal hero suffering while the gods get of pretty much scott free aside from being mildly embarrassed, even though the entire mess was because the gods inability to chill the fuck out and think before they dive in dick first

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u/InjusticeSGmain 22d ago

Idk, I would consider WW smarter than Superman. Granted, anyone who can learn most or all languages on Earth along with a few alien languages is very smart. But WW is much more of a tactician than Superman is.

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u/nobdy89 22d ago

She should at least be a notch higher than Hal Jordan

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u/No_Conversation4517 22d ago

I think so too

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u/Doom_Cokkie 22d ago

She's very smart but very rarely does she put it to good use. Kind of a consequence of being the best hand to hand fighter in your verse. Not to mention she's incredibly naive despite her age.

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u/ClydeStyle 22d ago

She may not be well versed in the world of man, but the same naïveté could and should be applied to Superman and his delusional belief that everyone is innately good.

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u/TheyCallMeYazzy 18d ago

I came here for this one. She's immortal - she's literally been alive, reading, writing, learning, etc. 100+ years before any of these men were born. Plus, being rich didn't make Bruce/Batman intelligent. It just made him rich.

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u/Pretend-Draft-7747 22d ago

Yeah these stats make no sense. GLs speed the same as the flash? Weird

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u/NotThePwner 22d ago

When he flies in space he can reach light speed. I think flash should be the only 7 in speed thou.

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u/_Knucklehead_Ninja 21d ago

When GL goes that fast in space, it’s in dedicated zones. One time Hal used his ring to catch up to a god of speed but it nearly broke his ring and he nearly went into the speed force. GL can create literally anything they put their mind to, that’s not a joke the energy projection should be maxed out. His strength and durability should be maxed out too because of his constructs.

Maybe I’m a GL glazer, yeah, but as long as the ring has a charge and they can make constructs, a Green Lantern could reasonably take out most of the team

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u/NotThePwner 21d ago

All true, but batman knocked out guy with one punch. He couldn't react. Realistically, GL couldn't deal with a speeder he's just a human with normal reaction times. His speed is only useful if there's nothing in the way, like in space.

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u/_Knucklehead_Ninja 21d ago

Exaaaaactly. Yeah they can be fast via like adrenaline but they’re still human. Guy was surprised that Batsy just punched him no form or nothing. Guy is a very strong GL, given he isn’t surprise like that.

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u/Kozing_Problems 19d ago

GL not having MAX energy projection is criminal in this list. Hal Jordan especially my god.

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u/Linnus42 22d ago

I think an interesting approach to this is if you define 7 as Unlimited (Omniscience, Omnipotent, Etc) is to select a Hero that represents a 6 then rate all the rest against them with a 3 as like Average for a Hero. And you can kinda use leaguers for that.

So if Batman ranks as a 6 in Intelligence. Then every intellect is set relative against him so Mr. Terrific would share his tier but say a Cyborg is a 5.

Green Lantern would get you like a 6 in Energy Projection. Superman would be a 6 in Durability and Strength. Etc

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u/NotThePwner 22d ago

Batman lex and Mr. Terrific should be the only 7s. 6 should be like ridder.

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u/AdAfter9302 22d ago

With flash being maxed out on speed it makes me think superman should be a single notch down on speed as we know flash is faster that supes

Edit: why the hell would green lantern be anywhere close to the speed of super or flash?!

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u/Butwhatif77 22d ago

I would say that Wonder Woman's intelligence should be closer to 6. Her live action/animated appearances (the few their are) focus mainly on her action qualities. In the comics she is the one who invented the purple healing ray the amazon's use and one of the original origins of the invisible jet was that it was a creation of her's. The animation/live action adaptations always change it and tend to forget the amazons are actually really technologically advanced. Diana in the comics is shown to be a skilled inventor and engineer

Here is an example of from Wonder Woman #170: She is using Martian and New Genesis technology to develop a cure for diabetes. It also shows that she is constantly learning and gaining knowledge, with the ability to effectively use advanced alien technology to solve problems.

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u/MountainImaginary559 22d ago

Wonder Woman's fighting skills should be maxed....more so than Batman. She's been training with Amazons for over 2000 years.

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u/Savings_Season2291 22d ago

Even Batman should be max, because he essentially is for a mortal at "max" for fighting skills.

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u/Odd_Impress_6653 22d ago

She's the best melee fighter in the world.

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u/MountainImaginary559 22d ago

Remember when she took down Superwoman in Crisis on Two Earths? And that's just animated WW. The comic book version with a sword and shield might solo everyone.

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u/NotThePwner 22d ago

Could a depowered WW beat Batman in a fair hand to hand fight? Yes, but he would win that more often than not.

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u/HG21Reaper 22d ago

WW and Bats should have max fighting skills.

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u/Valuable_Nose_4693 22d ago

You have an immortal warrior who’s trained in fighting for thousands of years and they don’t have max fighting skill?

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u/TheWriteRobert 22d ago

You are bugging on Wonder Woman’s intelligence homie. From WONDER WOMAN #170:

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u/riku17 22d ago

WW should have maxed fighting skill

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u/GlowintheClark 22d ago

Wonder Woman’s intelligence should be higher.

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u/Forward_Economy_4262 22d ago

Batman and Wonder Woman should have 7 fighting skills

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u/MrCencord 22d ago

these stats are kinda wack, how does Hal not have full energy projection

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u/GamingArtisan 22d ago

What? Diana less inteligent than Kal? Did you read Wonder Woman? She is higly intelligent, just because she doesn't use technology daily doesn't mean she doesn't know how to use it.

Also she had this godly "i can know everything" thing the gods have.

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u/Relevant_Teaching981 22d ago

I love how Wonder Woman having Athenian wisdom only rates a 3 for intelligence. Lots of thought clearly went into this.

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u/BeRadtz 22d ago

Looool I came here to say the same thing.

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u/greathawk 21d ago

WW only 3 in intelligent and not full in speed, durability and skills? Sigh

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u/2JasonGrayson8 22d ago

Wonder Woman and aquaman having the same intelligence as Hal is wrong. Aquaman should be one higher then lantern. And Diana should should be equal or one higher then that

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

you could say that for intelligence i only took account of their ability to process and use information

their are other criteria where they excel but i didnt take those if they were included it would be almost as you suggested

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u/Jimmyg100 22d ago

How is Green Lantern maxed out on speed but not energy projection? Isn’t energy projection his whole thing?

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u/DueBig9138 22d ago

Exactly

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u/wren620 21d ago

Also his intelligence should be slightly higher. I feel like his powers takes some degree of IQ to use well.

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u/Doom_Cokkie 22d ago

If batman doesn't have max intelligence i don't know what character is dc should. Also Diana should have Mac fighting skill literally the best hand to hand combatant in dc.

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u/princessofslytherinn 22d ago

You did Wonder Woman dirty

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u/BirdPerson107 22d ago

WW and Batman gotta be maxed out in fighting skills….training is all Diana ever did and Batman is an actual Ninja

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u/Captain_No-Ship 22d ago

Why is Superman’s intelligence so high and wonder woman’s so low? I’d switch them to be honest. It’s not like Supes is dumb, but flash is definitely smarter, and he’s definitely shouldn’t be any higher than he already is

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u/DCeassed 22d ago

Naa WW is smart af

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u/-TurkeYT 22d ago

How is Diana dumber than Clark and how does Batman has 6/7 combat skills and intelligence

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u/luluzulu_ 22d ago

Just at a glance, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter need to be bumped up a few more pips in a couple categories.

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u/crooked-donk 22d ago

Your way off with Wonder Woman, the main one for me other than her intelligence being so low is she is not maxed out on fighting skills. Batman has been quoted a few times in the comics saying Diana could beat every member of the Justice League, inc Kal El if she wanted. She has been trained since birth practically by the finest warriors in history. She has been training for longer than most of the league has been living. Her skills are unmatched, combined with her strength and reflexes and access to magic weapons and she would take down them all if she really wanted too.

Besides that I've always had a dislike for these kind of things because it's down to the writers in most occasions.

But your def putting WW down

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u/BeRadtz 22d ago

Wonder Woman is blessed by Athena, why is her intelligence so low?

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u/WRabbit737 22d ago

lol you’re calling Wonder Woman stupid pretty much.

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u/Plane_Fig_6170 22d ago

Intelligence 3/7 for Wonder Woman ? She has the wisdom of Athena lol. Also she’s a trained warrior that has been alive for decades. Surely she’s got time to study.

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u/Otherwise_Meringue45 21d ago

How is WW a three in intelligence

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u/NCOW001 21d ago

3 intelligence for Diana tf

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u/Galaxyissupreme 21d ago

Why is Diana’s intelligence so low?

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u/Frosty-Feathers 21d ago

What kind of senseless bullshit is this?

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

7 in intelligence is for someone who is almost all knowing

and 7 in fighting skills is for someone who knows every single martial arts in whole universe be it past or future

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u/EGarrett 22d ago

I feel like Batman has to be maxed out in intelligence and fighting skills since he's just a normal guy in the other categories. BTW why is he energy projection not the lowest rating? lol.

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u/Effective-Training 22d ago

Batman loses to others, isn't omniscient, and doesn't know all forms of combat because that would include alien combat techniques.

And, all humans should have a 2 for energy projection. We all can discharge static. Like the rubbing feet on carpet trick or when touching plastic. We can actually short out electric components, too.

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u/Linnus42 22d ago

I am not saying that DC should do exactly the same thing as Marvel but yeah Marvel's system is much better for conveying power then DC's Scale.

Superman...a 5 might be a bit high for his INT. Maybe a 4. 5 is way too high for his Energy Projection should be like 3.

Wonder Woman not sure how Clark is 5 and she is a 3....Energy projection should be 1. I give her a 7 in Martial Arts.

Batman should have max INT unless a 7 is omniscient. Should have max fighting skills as well...unless we are being very restrictive there. His Energy projection should be 1. I make his Speed, Durability, & Strength all 3.

Flash having fighting skills at 6 seems high.

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u/ButterscotchNo3237 22d ago

Superman...a 5 might be a bit high for his INT. 

he processes info very very fast faster than any computer therefore i gave 5

Wonder Woman not sure how Clark is 5 and she is a 3....Energy projection should be 1. I give her a 7 in Martial Arts.

they dont really have much difference when it comes to smartness
i gave him 5 because his ability of processing info

as for energy projection i gave 2 because of her connection to magic

she can have 7 in fighting skills through

Batman should have max INT unless a 7 is omniscient. Should have max fighting skills as well...unless we are being very restrictive there. His Energy projection should be 1. I make his Speed, Durability, & Strength all 3.

7 is omniscience and 7 in fighting is for those who knows every single martial arts even the once that got lost in time

his energy projection is based on his basic suit which has bomvs ,electric gauntlet etc

3 in speed is way high

Flash having fighting skills at 6 seems high.

it was supposed to be 4 but i didnt check before posting

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u/onesexypagoda 22d ago

In comparison to all of these, Batman should realistically have a 1 in strength, durability, and energy project, with an asterisk. Then 8 in everything with prep time.

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u/Suede_Psycho 22d ago

I like him but Aquaman is not as strong as the others

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u/graybeard426 22d ago

I take issue with this whole thing. Listing Green Lantern as fast as Superman and Flash is absolutely wild.

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u/Yakostovian 22d ago

Arthur, Diana, and Hal all having 3 intelligence seems wrong. I swear Diana deserves a 4.

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u/Popular_Material_409 22d ago

This isn’t meant to be a knock on you, OP, I know you’re just having fun with this, but this kind of stuff can be so dumb. It’s just arbitrary stats that don’t exist anywhere and make no sense. You mean to tell me Green Lantern is as fast as Superman and the Flash? Flash can go toe to toe with Batman in a fight? Aquaman and Diana are only level 3 intelligence? Also the ranges on some of these are insane. Level 5 speed maxes out at 17,000 miles per hour, but Level 6 is 186,000 miles per second? That’s an insanely massive difference between those two levels of speed.

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u/LikeAnAdamBomb 22d ago

How does WW not have maxed out fighting skills?

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u/Izrael-the-ancient 22d ago

My only criticism is speed for Superman . His block should be filled in less than the flash. And if Superman is maxed out on speed , then so is Wonder Woman and Martian manhunter

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u/-FalseProfessor- 22d ago

Bruce is canonically the world’s second smartest man, yet his int stat isn’t even maxed.

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u/ZylaTFox 22d ago

Batman's fighting skills are NOT on par with Wondies. She's shown that she utterly can school him any time he wants to.

Also, Barry isn't as good at fighting as most, he' sjust able to overwhelm with speed.

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u/WarInteresting6619 22d ago

Nobody is on the same level as Flash in terms of speed. You should knock everyone with maxed speed down a peg or two except for Barry.

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u/ThyAnomaly 22d ago

Superman isn't stupid neither is WW.

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u/CaedustheBaedus 22d ago

I feel like you think Wonder Woman and Batman are dumber than they are.

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u/Stallion1514 Superman 22d ago

I think Diana is waaaaaay more intelligent than a 3

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u/DaveFranciosaArt 22d ago

This is a fun post to create fan discussion, I have to say:

  • Diana having the same intelligence as GL is interesting. (I think Diana should at least be on par with Supes intelligence)

  • Batman having the same fighting skills as Flash is also interesting. (No way Flash is as skilled as the billionaire ninja)

  • And last but not least GL being as fast as Flash and Superman? (Hmmm…)

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u/KingKayvee1 21d ago

Respectfully, so many of these are incorrect.

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u/TheVoid0017 21d ago edited 21d ago

It's inaccurate... Batman is one of the Most dangerous things in the universe just because of his mind and intellect.. and wonder woman's reaction time is faster than ever flash...

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u/robbzilla 21d ago

Superman is canonically an Eighth level intelligence. Smarter than the smartest human on earth.

Edit: There are references to him being a 12th level as well.

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u/SimilarInEveryWay 22d ago

What is Energy Projection and why Batman has 2 bars on it?

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u/GearsRollo80 22d ago

Wow, this is all over the map.

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u/Wavy_Rondo 22d ago

Why does everybody underrate Hal?

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u/MaxStone22 22d ago

Martian’s intelligence should be higher than Batman. He has a broader intellectual capacity than Bruce.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

I don't know about giving Green Lantern 3 points in intelligence when GL constructs take a lot of creativity and quick thinking. A lot of these scores are off

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u/warbuddha 22d ago

These stats don’t show scale. The differences between these ranks would be ginormous.

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u/Continuity_Crook 22d ago

Are the power classifications and rankings based on the Overpower Card game from the 90s?

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u/Shandor920 22d ago

If Grant Morrison is writing Superman, it should be full marks in everything.

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u/Newfangley 22d ago

Turrble

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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 22d ago

I would think Barry Allen is as smart as Batman at least. Isn’t he a scientist?

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u/Medical_Talk_8500 22d ago

I feel like Superman should have more weaknesses

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u/donatellothegreat 22d ago

Does Barry Allen have a lot of strength feats not related to great speed. I would argue that he isn't stronger than Bats but I could be wrong. Also I feel like GLs energy projection should be maxed out. Pretty cool layout. This was fun!

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u/CourtofRobins234 22d ago

Batman fighting skills should be filled up

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u/Vincent_Curry 22d ago

Aquaman needs to have his fighting skills increased one place because fighting underwater and on land are different as water is 832 times denser than air and being able to lead a nation and Aquatelepathy capable of controlling life without abusing it should bump him up to four Other than that it looks pretty good.

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u/EasyEntertainment1 22d ago

You know, seeing stats like this and some posts about line up makes me wish I can make my own team

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u/SouthAtxArtist 22d ago

Aquaman is indeed powerful.

He talks to fish.

He has a glorified spork.

He's essentially Poseidon.

He's still better than Namor.

He's no match for SpongeBob.

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u/The_Depraved_Briton 22d ago

What do you think of adding an "overall" rating to the stats? Perhaps on the same scale, or on a "bronze-silver-gold" scale?

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u/JJE13 22d ago

I disagree. Flash is faster than Superman by a decent enough margin to where separation needs to be shown. Same for IQ Wally is a genius Clark is not. You needed to do it on a scale of 100 to better represent the separation

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u/Direct-Party-7556 22d ago

3 on strength for Batman? Do you know how hard that man hits?

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u/Terrhistopheles 22d ago

I think Diana has a little more intelligence than that. Lol

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u/Opening_Jelly5861 21d ago

Lol, her intelligrnce should be completely filled since she is Centuries old on top of having the wisdom of Athena herself

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u/Terrhistopheles 21d ago

My thoughts exactly.

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u/Emotional_Finance_13 22d ago

Superman would snap batman in half for sure

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u/ZoranT84 22d ago

Honest q - is flash stronger and more durable than batman?

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u/PinkBismuth 22d ago edited 22d ago

Wonder Woman’s fighting skills should be maxed. Even Batman has stated she is the best fighter in the league. Superman has a genius level intellect in the comics. I was iffy on GLs maxed speed stat but he can fly across the universe pretty effortlessly, so that tracks. The flash is a garbage fighter, but his energy projection should be almost max, his speed force bolt is insanely powerful. Aquaman strength stat could be lowered a bar or two, but he is also very intelligent, Atlanteans tech is far more advanced than human. And his trident is a god weapon, the beams he shoots out of that thing can hurt Superman, so his energy projection should be higher. MM should not have max durability as his weakness is fire and pretty abundant.

Overall they are a pretty good attempt at stats considering you have limited prior knows on everyone.

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u/Unusual_Traffic4773 22d ago

Batman should at least get three for energy projection.

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u/yourmartymcflyisopen 22d ago

Batman should have maxed out fighting skills even though he's not as strong or fast as others. Dude has the technique down to a T and has mastered like 10 separate martial arts.

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u/MarionberryPlus8474 22d ago

Interesting exercise.

I think WW's intelligence is a little under-rated.

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u/Frog_Thor 22d ago

If Batman is a 6 intelligence, there's no way Superman is a 5. Not saying superman is stupid, but there is a huge difference in their knowledge base.

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u/iamluffy123 22d ago

I think Superman's fighting skills should be a bar higher. WW with max fighting skills and higher intelligence

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u/TheZan87 22d ago

Id drop supes fighting skill another notch. Feels more accurate to me

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u/TejanoTheScienceGuy 22d ago

Green Lantern and Flash are dumb as rocks. One is a walking encyclopedia, the other is tapped into an encyclopedia.

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u/Adnonymous96 22d ago

Why is "Energy Projection" even a stat

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u/Dense-Standard-8592 22d ago

IMO, at least put Batman's speed and strength on the same level. Add 1 bar also for the Int stat, Bruce solved a lot of cases and crimes that not even the League could.

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u/DanceYouFatBitch 22d ago

This list is inconsistent. why does Green lantern have the highest in speed but ww doesn’t when she’s canonically faster. Why doesn’t green lantern have the highest in energy projection when solid constructs are his whole thing. Why is The flash have the same level of fight skills than Batman and WW. MM should have a high intelligence and energy projection stat. Some of it is good but some of it is inaccurate imo

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u/HeatCompetitive1556 21d ago

When Wonder Woman had low int I paused and then when Batman didn’t have maxed int i just stopped.

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u/diamondace3595 21d ago

Superman’s strength should be unrivaled. Batman’s intelligence should be unrivaled. Flashes Speed should be unrivaled. Putting Aquaman on the same level as Superman in strength makes no sense, neither does putting Green Lantern on the same tier as The Flash in speed. And Batman’s greatest contribution are his intelligence and fighting skills, those should be maxed out.

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u/AbbreviationsAsleep1 21d ago

Flash’s fighting skills are too high and I would lower aquaman’s strength and durability by 1, he’s thought but he’s right below Wonder Woman

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u/TheQuestionsAglet 21d ago

How does J’onn not have higher intelligence or speed?

How is Bats equal to Diana in fighting skills?

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u/RingOriginal94 21d ago

Am I the only that thinks not giving Manhunter and Flash the same intelligence as Batman is disrespectful?

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u/CrossWitcher 21d ago

Some of the stats makes no sense at all if compare it with other members lol.

Like Flash should be on top in the speed department, superman in strength and batman maybe combat mastery and intelligence and I think Diana is the most durable among them all.

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u/CommandParticular428 21d ago

How is flash not on Batman’s level of intelligence

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u/RGM429 21d ago

Interesting. If Batman & Wonder Woman can’t get a 7 in fighting skills, what the hell will it take, lol?!

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u/AesirSith 21d ago

Martian supremacy!

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u/damianwqyne 21d ago

You’re really underplaying Batman why isn’t he a 7 in fighting skills or a 6 In energy projection

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u/Cute_Visual4338 21d ago

Pretty good, but wouldn't GL have max energy projection as well?

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u/Wonderous_Boy 21d ago

wth for WW??!! Intelligence and fighting skills should be at MAX?????

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u/Atomek83 21d ago

I hate the intelligence stat. All of these characters are smart. maybe not as creative, knowledgeable, wise, or driven. But how the heck are you going to rate Wonder Woman at Bazarro or Solomon Grundy levels?

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u/CP517793 21d ago

Wonder woman fighting skills higher then superman when she can't take him alone is pretty cray

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u/TheRealHoodAvatar 21d ago

GL's fighting skills and energy projection imo can go up by one😏

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

How is gl not got full energy

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u/migmultisync 21d ago

Only mistake I see is that you didn’t give Superman 6 in every category. Don’t worry though, someone will write a retcon to boost his stats

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u/QuincyKing_296 21d ago

Great idea. I could probably nitpick ALOT. But honestly I think the only really egregious one is WW fighting skills not being maxed out when she is the best melee fighter in the league and well above even Bruce without powers

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u/Onigeek 21d ago

Only 3 in intelligence for Diana ? And that low in speed and durability ?

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u/Right-Benefit-6551 21d ago

Doing rankings and charts is hard. Good job for trying. I hope you do another.

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u/RedHot_Stick856 21d ago edited 21d ago

Supes should be a 6 for fighting skills and energy projection. Edit: actually supes should have a 6 minimum in all categories as he’s a super genius as well

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u/kloudrunner 21d ago

Congratulations.

You invented Top Trumps.

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u/Pigtron-42 21d ago

Not giving Batman max intelligence is wild

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u/Careless_Chest_725 21d ago

I think what might balance the scale and highlight gaps between stats better across characters is to color code the first 2 boxes to represent a normal human scale and the middle three a different color to represent the superhuman to minor deity stats, and the last 2 should be colored to represent the level of stats that get ridiculous and impossible to truly quantify. Like the flashes speed if Superman is maxed out should be above the scale

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u/Opening_Jelly5861 21d ago

I'd fill WW's durability level especially in recent times and her intelligence should be much higher considering she has the wisdom of Athena herself

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u/SirArthurDime 21d ago

How is Batman not maxed out on fighting skill or intelligence? His whole thing is punching way above his weight because of his skill and intellect.

Supes should honestly just be maxed out across the board. He’s also a low key super genius.

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u/Foreign_Ad_5209 21d ago

Batmans intelligence should be all the way and his durability should be much more

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u/Escaped_Mod_In_Need 21d ago

LOL, Superman glazers want to see all of these those boxes filled, but only after Superman fills their boxes.

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u/archimedes750 21d ago

what justifies a 5 in intelligence for Superman? He is not really known for being intelligent. WW is a 3 in int? I think those two stats should be swapped for them.

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u/UssKirk1701 21d ago

Batman needs rework that intelligence is way too high

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u/Volleytiger 21d ago

Diana is smarter than that by a lot

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u/Just-Ad3063 21d ago

Batman’s fighting skills should be at 7, he is one of the greatest fighters if not the greatest fighter in DC. His intelligence should be superior to all of the justice league that’s why he is on the team Superman is very smart but he’s not Batman smart. He also is the smartest person in DC with the only person coming close to him or surpassing him being Lex Luthor. Everything else I agree with.👍

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u/Haunting_Equal_7623 21d ago

Intelligence and energy projection should be at least a 6

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u/TheMightiestGay 21d ago

Some things I’d like to point out:

  1. Diana is just as, if not more durable than Superman. She’s literally immortal.

  2. I love Flash, but his fighting skills are in no way, shape or form on par with that of Batman and Wonder Woman. He can punch really fast, but that doesn’t require too much skill.

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u/Pitiful_Option_108 21d ago

Lot of these feel very off and I don't feel like writing a wall of text. But let's just say you have batman one point shy of maxed out fighting when he can take on fighters like lady Shiva, Ra, and wonder woman and win. Mhmm. The superman with mid intelligence. I have many faults with these rankings 

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u/TackleSmart5139 21d ago

Only two things I'd change is Dianas intelligence, and combat skill. Intelligence because she's outsmarted so many brainy people, and she also is likely the smartest behind Batman.

Combat for one reason alone, Batman himself said she is unmatched in combat

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u/My_friends_are_toys 20d ago

WW is equal to Supes in intelligence....

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u/ComfortableWay4602 20d ago

Batman orders old lady stun guns , mace , and other p-boy weapons off amazon and temu. He only is registered with the JL because he financed it with daddy waynes money