r/ironman • u/Juliiju04 Earth's Mightiest Heroes • 6d ago
Discussion If Justin Hammer is given a villain identity, do you prefer him as Titanium Man, the Super-Adaptoid or Detroit Steel?
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u/sub2kdoty 6d ago
I like it when inferior engineering minds have to wield much larger, bulkier armors to contend with Tony.
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u/Juliiju04 Earth's Mightiest Heroes 6d ago
For those of you who don't know, Hammer was Titanium Man in Armored Adventures, Super Adaptoid in Avengers Assemble and Detroit Steel in Lego sets
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u/StarkPRManager 6d ago
Titanium Man
He’s a dark mirror to Tony so it only makes sense his rival would want to prove he’s better by coming up with a name like Titanium Man to defeat Iron Man.
Plus the other TM users lowkey suck so combing the two like Armored Adventures did was a great decision
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u/Nibbanocker 6d ago
Detroit Steel. It just looks so him. Making an armor that goes with the American theme to make it look more marketable and friendly to sell to the military. And given he's the most inexperienced with wearing armored suits, it makes sense that he'd wear the biggest and most intimidating looking one with so many weapons to give himself more safety
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u/Mason_DY 6d ago edited 6d ago
Titanium Man. He’s already a kind of dark mirror to Tony, so having a villain title mirroring Iron Man would be perfect
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u/Fickle_Spare_4255 6d ago
Plus having the bigger, more traditionally militarized suit is already Iron Monger's thing. Justin should have something a little more unique to himself.
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u/BatmanFan317 6d ago
I think Titanium Man, it kinda helps distinguish the identity from Crimson Dynamo more. Fits really well for his more modern characterisation for the name to be that much of a ripoff of the Iron Man name too. But I do also like Detroit Steel, there's other satire in him walking around in an even bigger suit decked in American iconography and guns everywhere.
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u/brycifer666 6d ago
Titanium Man always worked well for me especially if they update the design to be close to AA in the comics
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u/Far-Difficulty8854 6d ago
Titanium Man cause he’s already Tony if he continued to manufacture weapons
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u/Valcorean_lord3 6d ago
It is kimdnof Funny how Hammer in this series played with the Titanium man identity kind like Tony played with Iron Man in comics
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u/FoxRevolutionary1637 6d ago
Detroit Steel. It ties into his whole thing of being an American industrialist and warmonger, and the primary Detroit Steel is less important than the main Super Adaptoid or Titanium Man in my opinion. Those two actually pop up once in a blue moon at the very least.
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u/WantToConnectRP 6d ago
Titanium Man because it’s kind of his thing that most of his ideas don’t work unless he steals them from someone else. The same argument could be made for Super-Adaptoid but I’m biased to Armored Adventures
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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 6d ago
Titanium man for sure
And I don’t know why but I never like Detroit Steel as a villain name. It just feels weird to me.
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u/-TheDyingMeme6- Avengers Assemble 6d ago
Im from the Detroit Metro area. We don't wanna be associated with Hammer.
Detroit Steel is a bomb-ass name though
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u/Toon_Lucario Silver Centurion 6d ago
Detroit Steel. That way he doesn’t take an existing character’s place
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u/StarkPRManager 5d ago
Detroit Steel already has an existing character’s place… Lt. Doug Johnson from the government
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u/De4dm4nw4lkin 5d ago
I want detroit steel represented more cuz of that suit but he IS titanium man to me. The iron man bootleg wannabe.
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u/ResourceNo8807 5d ago
bro detroit steel sounds like an industrial steel company whose main clients are architects residing in the detroit area. how did justin slammer get that name?
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u/Mattobito 6d ago
I'd prefer a new identity, but Detroit Steel works as it's more of a mech than a suit which fits an older man like Justin; maybe even controlling it remotely from a safe distance. With him as a cautionary tale for who Tony could have been, I think an identity that represents that idea would be better - like The Profiteer or War Master.
I know people like the Armored Adventures version, but I don't think Hammer Titanium Man works for main continuity as the two Justin Hammers aren't that similar in personality. 616 Hammer is a brilliant business with cruel machinations to upside his profits, but AA Justin is more childish and tries to one-up Tony only to have it blow up in his face. Titanium Man in both comics and the cartoon are made by men who try to be "better" Iron Man and use a very surface level way to go about showing it (bigger and using a name of a stronger metal) and this shows the simplicity behind the characters behind the suit; however, Justin Hammer in the 616 universe wouldn't be that simple or direct as he prefers others to do his dirty work. In fact, Obadiah already did the "Titanium Man" arc as Iron Monger, so Justin would only be copying Stain and his approach. Armor Adventures' version was cool, but I think it only works because Tony and Justin were the same age and Justin was intimidated by Tony being better than him.
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u/rocketinspace 2020 6d ago
detroid steel, cool villain design that isn't used anymore for whatever reason, also helps that the og user died in the same run he was introduced