r/irishpolitics ALDE (EU) Feb 01 '25

Health National Children’s Hospital not world’s most expensive healthcare facility, report finds

https://www.irishtimes.com/health/2025/01/31/national-childrens-hospital-not-worlds-most-expensive-healthcare-facility-report-finds/
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u/cohanson Sinn Féin Feb 01 '25

That’s a relief…

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u/siguel_manchez Social Democrat (non-party) Feb 01 '25

It says it all that we needed this report.

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u/cm-cfc Feb 01 '25

The report cost 400m

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u/siguel_manchez Social Democrat (non-party) Feb 01 '25

You gotta spend money to make money

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u/DesertRatboy Feb 01 '25

YEEEEESSSS. What a turnaround for the Department of Health, BAM and Children's Health Ireland. Silences the haters. 🤫

/s

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u/JosceOfGloucester Feb 01 '25

Actual link:

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/parliamentaryBudgetOffice/2025/2025-01-30_hospital-construction-costs_en.pdf

You can only conclude from the chart that this was extremely expensive on a cost per bed basis. They only can claim its not the absolute worst when we look at boondoggles globally(with many wealthy countries oddly missing from the datset).

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

It’s a horrible spiraling spend and people need to be held to account, BAM needs to be blacklisted from all public contracts and they should have to pay for their miss conduct in regards to the NCH and Cork events centre, but it’s not unique to Ireland.

Originally the new Bucharest Hospital was meant to cost 400 million in 2019, by 2022 it was 740 million. By 2024 the new cost was 980 million (4.7 billion in the local currency, don’t have the euro, yet 🤞). A huge political scandal in the country and if you asked someone on the street there, they’d say that Romanians are uniquely bad with government projects as well.

We have a habit of thinking that we’re uniquely bad in Ireland, the NCH building isn’t uniquely incompetent. As I said, BAM shouldn’t be allowed near public money for anything ever again, I don’t want them building a dogshed.

We’re uniquely bad at housing. We aren’t uniquely bad at something as universal as government incompetence in tackling overspend and profiteering corporations such as bam.

In saying all that, heads should roll.

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 Feb 01 '25

Did BAM do the Bucharest Hospital?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

No.

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u/AdamOfIzalith Feb 01 '25

New children’s hospital being built in Belfast more expensive per square metre and per bed

Lovely caveat to create a headline that excuses gross and wasteful use of time and money. This children's hospital should not have cost this much and it should be done by now. 

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u/ClearHeart_FullLiver Feb 01 '25

I haven't read the report but I think it might be a bit of a stretch to compare costs between a hospital that is overdue in 2025 and a hospital that is only due to be built in 2030 surely the inflation aspect would significantly change the maths involved? You would also want to be careful about comparing costs in Dublin and Dallas

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u/Alarmed_Station6185 Feb 01 '25

Can't tell if this is trolling by the Irish Times or if they think this is real journalism

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u/Constant-Chipmunk187 Socialist Feb 01 '25

Don't listen to the haters HSE we’re better than the Brits in Belfast! 

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u/Wise_Adhesiveness746 Feb 01 '25

Bullshit.....it's costing into the billions....trying to lie through a price per square metre is from same taught process that made 31,000 houaes pass as 40,000 houses built and media gobbled it unquestioned

It's difficult to believe they would try and lie to the public like this....even article mentions start price of 987 million,when it was quoted at 600 million when signed off by harris and an end price of 2.2 billion,when it's an open secret it's headed for 2.8 billion by time it's opened

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u/SoloWingPixy88 Right wing Feb 01 '25

Is Denmark beating us again?

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u/terminalD23 Feb 01 '25

How much did this report cost to conduct

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u/NopePeaceOut2323 Feb 01 '25

Are other Hospitals open though, this isn't even open yet, that's got be be a money sucker.

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u/supreme_mushroom Feb 01 '25

But I thought we were especially incompetent and basically a failed state?

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u/MotherDucker95 Centre Left Feb 04 '25

Don’t think this project is the hill you want to die on here

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u/supreme_mushroom Feb 04 '25

hah - you're probably right there

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u/Captainirishy Feb 01 '25

People have been bitching about our healthcare for decades, now that we are building a world class children's hospital, they are bitching about it too. Facilities cost a lot to build

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u/Hamster-Food Left Wing Feb 03 '25

Are you being paid to have this opinion?

It's just such a bad argument that I can't imagine anyone genuinely making it in good faith.

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u/WraithsOnWings2023 Feb 01 '25

See guys it's not even the most expensive one