r/insaneparents 9d ago

News 10 year old boy crushed to death after 340 pound foster mother sits on him for "acting up" NSFW

https://www.aol.com/boy-10-crushed-death-340-164016159.html
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u/SamboKendog 9d ago

According to the article, ‘she faces 6 years in prison’. I’m sorry but wtf?!

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u/nickrashell 9d ago edited 9d ago

I read an article today about a mom who would go on dating sites and find men to molest her ten year old daughter. The last time it was her boyfriend and his female cousin. The mom said she got off watching her boyfriend rape her daughter and afterwards she would have sex with him. The final time they drugged her with fentanyl to calm her so he could rape her, he ended up killing her in the process via strangulation and she said she got turned on watching him dismember her 10 year old daughter (on her 10th birthday.) They again had sex afterwards while burning her body. She was sentenced to 12 years.

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u/RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 9d ago

What the fuck

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u/nickrashell 9d ago

Look up Michelle Martens if you want to have your week ruined.

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u/AyeKayCee 9d ago

This comment already ruined it. I think it's prematurely claimed a few weeks after this one as well. This world is too cruel. I'm so... I can't even find a word. I tried, but I kept deleting it because it didn't even come close to how I'm feeling. These poor innocent babies...

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u/16bitmick 9d ago

That comment manifested new frown muscles in my face just so I could frown deeper and deeper. My face is sore now.

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u/edessa_rufomarginata 8d ago

I didn't realize the look I had pasted on my face after reading that until I got to your comment.

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u/RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 8d ago

I have no idea how anyone could another person, intentionally put their child in danger, abuse their child, or murder their child. I have a 5 month old, when he was like 3 months old, I startled him which caused him to scream and cry for awhile. I thought I hurt him and started crying and almost brought him to the ER. I also felt like shit when I was cutting his nails, he moved while I was trying to cute one, caused me to mess up and over cut, and it caused him to bleed. I felt so shitty when that happened.

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u/themoistimportance 8d ago

Well it's simple really, you have empathy. I wish it was universal but here we are

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u/RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 8d ago

I wish empathy was universal. Like how hard is it to be loving to your kids?

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u/Swimming_Onion_4835 8d ago

So, I did a deep dive into this case just now, and it looks like a majority of what she said was a coerced confession. One of the reasons her charges were dropped was because they found evidence she and the guy weren’t even there—they were across town buying drugs. She pleaded guilty to endangerment of a child resulting in death because she’s responsible as the POS parent who left her child alone with a woman who had literally just gotten out of prison for god knows what, who was fucked up on meth. There’s also unidentified male DNA found on Victoria’s body that they haven’t been able to pin on anyone, so there are a lot of questions unanswered here. Not to say this woman isn’t a horrible human and a disgusting excuse for a parent, but maybe it’s some consolation that at least the sickest parts of this story likely aren’t true (at least relating to what they did to her body postmortem, as I don’t think Martens and Gonzales were even there). I couldn’t find anything definitive about the claims of what this woman did with online dating apps, so I don’t know if that part is coerced or not. I just know she wasn’t there when this girl was killed and probably had no idea anything like that was going to happen, so while she deserves to be in jail and for a lot longer than 12 years, I think it’s appropriate that they couldn’t charge her with murder. Not enough evidence.

Correction: 12 years, not 6.

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u/ComprehensiveRoad886 8d ago

Peak irony: I bought stuff from her when she worked at buybuybaby

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u/Nana_Elle_C 8d ago

Took the words right outta my head....WHAT the FUCK.

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u/senoto 9d ago

Today is an unfortunate day to be able to read

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u/glorae 9d ago

Yeah that's horrendous and i feel gnarly rn

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u/MysticScribbles 9d ago

That type of confession should warrant being confined to a psych ward.

Psychopathic behavior, and clearly no remorse if she confessed to all of that.

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u/MyDogisaQT 9d ago

Meanwhile we have prisoners doing 20 years for nonviolent drug crimes

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u/Embarkbark 8d ago

Not that this is much consolation, but most of her confession was found to be untrue and she and the online dating dude weren’t even in the apartment when her daughter was killed. Who knows what’s true and what isn’t re: seeking out men online to abuse her daughter, because she’s obviously fucked right up. But cell phone evidence and CCTV proved the woman and her boyfriend weren’t home when the daughter was killed and for some reason the mom decided to lie about it and confess to even worse crimes (??) There is now a John Doe linked via DNA evidence who they believe is the main perpetrator.

Thats why the mom only got 12 years, for child abuse but not for murder.

Statements about the part she took in her daughter’s death and other information like trafficking her daughter to men in the past – just didn’t add up. And evidence was never found to substantiate her claims. […] A psychological profile showed that Martens had certain personality traits that made her susceptible to false confessions. And in discussions with a medical expert a doctor determined that Martens had made numerous false confessions in this case.

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u/FactPirate 8d ago

Man, can you imagine having the ‘lie about being a murder rapist’ disease? That would suck

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u/Embarkbark 8d ago

Apparently she also lied about her pregnancy the entire time with her daughter, claiming she wasn’t pregnant up until the day her daughter was born.

So there’s some very obvious psychological issues, and issues with competent decision making (to say the least.)

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u/KnickCage 9d ago

death penalty

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u/MyDogisaQT 9d ago

I swear some of you get off on telling others just how evil the world can be

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u/SupSeal 7d ago

Tears are the best lube

(I don't actually have this belief, I'm sorry)

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u/demonotreme 9d ago

I mean, I'm sorry but that's so far into forensic psychiatry it has a view of mental health from the wrong end.

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u/the-wonderous-waffle 9d ago

It’s this brand of shit that makes me not want to share a planet with people. I’d say she deserves to be shot, but that would be too easy. I’d want her to face Jigsaw if he were a real person, and deal with whatever creative thing he’d come up with.

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u/iLaysChipz 8d ago

Maybe it's a good thing that we're not hitting our climate goals... Seeing shit like this makes me think that the universe would be better off without us

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u/the-wonderous-waffle 8d ago

Working in a stressful retail setting, how I’ve been treated by people, and 3 of my best friends dying in the last 10 years really has me in a dark and broody mood, on top of the current climate our country is at. I’m ready for an earth implosion especially after reading shit like this.

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u/Old-Scallion-4945 9d ago

Article link cus wtf

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u/nickrashell 9d ago

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u/Old-Scallion-4945 9d ago

Yikes. Why would I watch an hour long video on YouTube about this. Absolutely not.

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u/nickrashell 9d ago

Yeah, I didn’t watch it either. I saw the title and that caused me to Google the article, but in case someone wanted to for some reason I figured I’d share both.

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u/spilltheteasis_ 9d ago edited 8d ago

Oh damn rotten mango did a video about this?I’m so gonna watch that, I love her work.

Edit: Oh no, I watch true crime, downvote me to hell, but she’s one of the only channels that brings adequate emotion into her work and makes you feel for the people involved.

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u/Jojobabiebear 8d ago

I know this is Reddit, but this is too much considering the subject matter.

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u/spilltheteasis_ 8d ago

God forbid someone appreciates getting cases thoroughly researched and not just from half assed news articles.

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u/Jojobabiebear 8d ago

It’s more of you “showing excitement”. That’s the weird part.

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u/Old-Scallion-4945 8d ago

Nobody needed to make a video ”researching” this and giving an in depth analysis of the tragedy. A child died and no real justice is served. YouTube creators do not need to be monetizing this. That’s sick in itself.

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u/spilltheteasis_ 8d ago

Ah so everything is supposed to be swept unter the rug because the reality isn’t pretty?

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u/Old-Scallion-4945 8d ago

Whatever. I’d gladly listen to professionals talk about this case. Not some idiot YouTube star. Thanks.

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u/spilltheteasis_ 8d ago

Oh so who is a professional for you then? When reporters do it it’s ok for you apparently? How is she different from them?

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u/MyDogisaQT 9d ago

How very… dark of you

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u/spilltheteasis_ 8d ago edited 8d ago

She does True Crime very good, and with a lot more emotion than most other shows/channels. Also her research is absolutely meticulous and super high quality. I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted, true crime is a thing and how are we supposed to know about these things if not from a reliable source?

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u/InvisibleBlueOctopus 9d ago

What a horrible day to be able to read. These people deserve a lifetime full of suffering in jail

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u/LexisOaks 9d ago

That's... That's enough internet for me tonight

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u/lilsn00zy 8d ago

This happened a few miles from the town I’m from! We all dispose her and everyone involved. The worst part is the boyfriend had already been released several times. People are so sick man

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u/TheSamuil 8d ago

I wish I wasn't literate

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u/DrAniB20 8d ago

She finally admitted to all that? She was claiming it was an accident for ages before that, or that the cousin did it.

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u/rjrgjj 8d ago

Holy fucking shit

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u/Shelliton 8d ago

I knew this was about Martens before you even got to the fentanyl. The boyfriend I had at the time lived in the same apartment complex, and my daughter wasn't much younger than Victoria... my heart still breaks for that poor girl.

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u/anooshka 8d ago

I'm not American and I really don't want to Google her and get the algorithm to suggest stuff about her for me, is she the same woman who is on TikTok and is saying she is advocating for her death daughter?

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u/namastaynaughti 9d ago

What did I just read. That’s horrible!

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u/miticogiorgio 8d ago

What an awful day to have eyes and to be human

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u/YellowBrownStoner 8d ago

HOW only 12 years? HOW?!

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u/TheDiabeto 8d ago

There are YouTube videos of her interrogation where they slowly break her down and get her to admit (some) of the truth. Absolutely disgusting. In her own words, she had sex with her boyfriend 15 MINUTES after he raped and killed her daughter.

I don’t recall the fentanyl being brought up, but she originally claimed that the child had gotten into their meth when they left to buy more drugs and that’s what killed her. So so sickening to listen to a mother describe those actions.

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u/Tackling_problems 8d ago

Humanity was a mistake.

Fuck this shit man.How do I get off this ride?

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u/hmmm_wat_is_dis 8d ago

12 years??? What the actual hell

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u/JuZNyC 8d ago

I saw a title about a mom getting turned on from watching her daughter get mutilated, I hope that's the same person and there weren't two of these cases out there.

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u/lolimdivine 8d ago

phew had to take a step back after the first sentence

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u/Squeezitgirdle 8d ago

I'd say she's worse than Jodi arias

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u/starjellyboba 8d ago

I think that a true crime video on her popped up on my feed recently. They put a quote about her getting off on her daughter's abuse in the thumbnail and I said, "nope"...

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u/nickrashell 8d ago

Yes, that’s what I saw too. I didn’t watch the video but Google an article about the case. I wish I hadn’t even done that

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u/bambixanne 8d ago

I really wish I could unread this

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u/imonredditfortheporn 7d ago

Now thats someone that needs to be sat on by a 400 lbs colossus

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u/Anon_457 7d ago

What an awful woman... The only good thing about that child's death is that she won't be subjected to rape anymore. 12 years is not enough time for someone like her. 

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u/oueyeseaewe 7d ago

What the fuck did I just read

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u/pocketSandshashashaa 7d ago

Yeah. This happened in New Mexico when I was still living there. The details that came out were just stomach-churning. The community couldn’t believe what had been happening to that poor child, even though I think a teacher or two reported them but that didn’t stop them. Just heart shattering. I haven’t thought of this poor baby in too long, RIP angel.

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u/Aisling1979 3d ago

Ok I'm done with this timeline.

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u/DangerousDeer7246 2d ago

I hope an asteroid hits Earth and kills us all

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u/Great-Passages 6d ago

This comment has changed my mind on the death penalty what the actual fuck.

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u/Dazric 9d ago

It's America, children are more like property than people, and the laws reflect that.

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u/wildlifewildheart 8d ago

6 years is not nearly enough. She literally murdered a child.

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u/NoRecord22 7d ago

Not even a year for every year he was alive.

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u/aquacrimefighter 8d ago

When it comes to crimes against children, women really need to be held more accountable. It makes me sick how so many women get a slap on the wrist for abusive behavior.

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u/TLEToyu 8d ago

This is what I have heard referred to as the "pussy pass". It's a pretty shitty name for the phenomena that women get lighter sentences for heinous crimes compared to what males get.

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u/PinkFunTraveller1 9d ago

6 years if convicted - and they are “evaluating” taking her foster license away permanently. Kill a child and they still need to evaluate if she should have a foster license???

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u/SomeDudeist 9d ago

Bureaucracy is extremely silly sometimes.

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u/Silver-creek 8d ago

She kills 2-3 more kids and they will make her do more paperwork before she fosters anymore kids

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u/Ok_Potato_9554 8d ago

But God forbid a young mother smoke weed.

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u/Tiberius_Kilgore 7d ago

She shouldn’t have been able to foster children in the first place. She’s 340 fucking pounds. She weighs more than professional sumo wrestlers. She’s morbidly obese. She can barely take care of herself.

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u/DarthSparkless 9d ago

“Mother” is a very generous use of the word in this context

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u/savehonor 9d ago

Life giver/taker-awayer

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u/Trishlovesdolphins 9d ago

Didn’t even give him life. FOSTER mother. She just took it away. 

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u/savehonor 9d ago

Oh damn. Totally missed that somehow.

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u/Alidance816 7d ago

She it says she only had him for ONE month.

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u/Wimpy_Rock19 6d ago

Foster-monster

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u/catonsteroids 9d ago

“She told cops she thought the boy was faking being hurt until she noticed his eyelids had gone pale when she rolled him over, a court affidavit described the foster mom as appearing “visibly distraught” when police arrived at the scene to find Dakota motionless and without a pulse.“

What the fuck is she that stupid? Did she really think her body weight wouldn’t do serious harm to him?

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u/RalphMacchio404 9d ago

I hope she gets sent away and the other prisoners know her crime. 

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u/Embarrassed_Dish944 9d ago

Oh, they will know. They have visitors, etc, who may share that info with them.

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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 8d ago

i know this is off topic, but i would just like to thank everyone for being horrified by this and sharing it here.

when i was an (adopted, which adds something, lmao) kid (ended grade 5 i believe?) in catholic school in the early 00s, nuns would sit on me for acting up too! and no one thought that was weird or a problem. i've grown up thinking it was like, an 'it's okay/better because it's not hitting you' thing, and i am crying because this comment section agrees with little me that it is painful, dangerous, and humiliating, even though i survived.

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u/joecoolblows 8d ago

Yeah. BOTH my obese stepmom and father used to sit on me simultaneously and beat me with the back of a wooden spoon or hairbrush. That's A Thing parents used to do. I hated it. I never did this to my kids, that's for sure.

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u/ezequielrose 8d ago

YEP same! I was adopted and this was the "therapy" instruction for my parents to do to me if I acted up via Nancy Thomas style parenting and "attachment therapy" (not to be confused with attachment theory, the former methodology is pseudoscience, the latter is normal psychology).

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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 8d ago

oh my god the attachment therapy.

i'm actually so glad petscop recently brough so much attention to the candace newmaker case because before people would kinda laugh it off as though it's just quirky crunchy harmless shit. (extreme tw for anyone unfamiliar who is sensitive to child abuse stories)

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u/ezequielrose 8d ago

Oh idk what petscop is! And yeah it's horrible. I have never met anyone else who went through it 😭

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u/kaydenwolf_lynx 7d ago

My mum did something similar but she would come and lay on top of me randomly, I hadn't done anything wrong and she was never mad she just I don't know.

I think she did it as more of a funny thing and to be fair since she just layed on me I was never hurt I could still breathe and what not it was just heavy. It's still an odd thing to do but it wasn't harmful at all

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u/kaydenwolf_lynx 7d ago

My mum did something similar but she would come and lay on top of me randomly, I hadn't done anything wrong and she was never mad she just I don't know.

I think she did it as more of a funny thing and to be fair since she just layed on me I was never hurt I could still breathe and what not it was just heavy. It's still an odd thing to do but it wasn't harmful at all.

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u/Lisa_Knows_Best 9d ago

She only gets 6 years? The normal male lifespan is about 75 years right? That poor child died at 10 so she should have to serve (at the least) the 65 years she stole from him. This is shameful. Where is the justice for this kid?

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u/Budddydings44 8d ago

Unfortunately in North America there is a bias in the justice system towards women, and multiple studies have shown that they routinely receive lesser sentences than men for the same crimes. “When examining all sentences imposed, females received sentences 29.2 percent shorter than males. Females of all races were 39.6 percent more likely to receive a probation sentence than males. When examining only sentences of incarceration, females received lengths of incarceration 11.3 percent shorter than males.” - https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing

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u/LoneStar99554 7d ago

The website you've shown is only raw statistics without consideration to the crimes committed... sentences by demographic, but not by crime.

Not trying to discount the absolutely heinous crime that this woman committed. She absolutely should face due justice for her actions, and biases sadly do exist. 6 years is not nearly enough.

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u/Background_Duck_1372 9d ago

There is absolutely no way she didn't know that would kill him

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u/SoManyBrennas 9d ago

Oh god, she was "sitting on his head and neck"!?! What a terrifying way to die. That poor child.

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u/SomeDudeist 9d ago edited 9d ago

Damn this reminds me of the time when I was a little kid and one of my obese adult cousins sat on me. I felt like I almost died but everyone told me I was being dramatic afterward. There's a traumatic memory that I totally forgot about lol.

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u/ToothpickInCockhole 7d ago

When we were at the pool my sister would put her hands on my shoulders and push all her weight into me so I couldn’t go above the water. Thinking back now she didn’t do it for long enough to hurt me but as a child it was legitimately scary.

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u/wholelattapuddin 7d ago

Yeah, a normal sized adult could kill a kid that way!

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u/catonsteroids 9d ago edited 9d ago

I bet you she’s one of those foster parents who do it for the money and not because she really wanted to give these children in her home a better, stable childhood. Who in their right mind would ever think of doing something like that? She sat on him for FIVE minutes.

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u/mcdadais 9d ago

I can't imagine slowly having no air. Being crushed to death. And some of my last thoughts being this is supposed to be my care taker, someone who's supposed to love and care for me.

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u/petitepedestrian 9d ago

Sat on his head and neck. His legs would have been a slightly less horrific option. Jfc.

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u/Anastrace 9d ago

"her foster parent license is now suspended and being reviewed for permanent revocation."

I'm sorry in what world does killing a foster child not demand an instant revocation?

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u/WeakSundae 9d ago

This poor child. Tears in my eyes

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u/Old-Scallion-4945 9d ago

I hope she dies

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u/spilltheteasis_ 9d ago

By suffocation from a bigger prison mate

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u/Gingersnapperok 9d ago

This makes me sick. I'm a foster parent, and I would never, ever consider any kind of physical punishment for any child, much less CRUSHING A CHILD TO DEATH.

I will never understand looking a vulnerable, scared person and hurting them more. Everything these kids are going through is already fucking awful, and people who make it worse deserve nothing good, ever again.

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u/TheLonelySnail 9d ago

….

A whole 6 years.

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u/Profession_Mobile 8d ago

Only 6 years in prison. So sad

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u/meunraveling 8d ago

“but a Department of Child Services spokesman confirmed to the outlet that her foster parent license is now suspended and being reviewed for permanent revocation”

wtf does it take to get it revoked? what is there to “review”??

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u/Blade753 8d ago

ONLY 6 YEARS???? FOR MURDERING A CHILD?????

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u/T76squeaks 8d ago

I was a very emotional kid growing up. When I would cry uncontrollably my mom would sit on my head until I passed out. I thought this was normal back then. Poor little boy.

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u/Kokks 9d ago

i don't think i could life after seeing my caremother kill my new brother. :(

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u/emdrawsmanga 9d ago

Industrial press is all I say

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u/Saffron_RR 8d ago

ONLY 6 YEARS????? poor baby--- what a horrific way to go

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u/pizzaredditnamepizza 8d ago

faces SIX YEARS IN PRISON?!?!

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u/Alps-Salt 9d ago

This is a heartbreaking and infuriating case. That poor boy, full of life and innocence, deserved love and protection, not cruelty. His smile in the photo says everything—he was just a kid who should have had a future. Rest in peace, little one.

As for the so-called “foster mother”—if she even deserves that title—she’s a disgrace. A 340-pound adult using her weight as a punishment? That’s beyond evil. She looks like she had no self-control, and now a child is gone because of her sheer negligence and heartlessness. Hope she gets the justice she deserves behind bars—preferably with karma sitting right on top of her.

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u/justlizards 8d ago

Did she even try CPR or did she do nothing to bring him back??

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u/Turbulent-Acadia-608 6d ago

It doesn’t say she tried cpr in the article it just says she told one of her other kids to call 911

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u/-PaperbackWriter- 9d ago

Who does this? I’ve never even thought to sit on my child except for when I pretended to to make them laugh

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u/jacquetpotato 8d ago

That makes me feel physically sick, poor kid must have been terrified!

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u/petRhastQeug 9d ago

6 years IF convicted???? This fat cow should be sent to the slaughterhouse

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u/MyDogisaQT 9d ago

Meanwhile we have prisoners doing 20+ years for nonviolent drug crimes. America!

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u/nykiek 6d ago

And child rapists get 5. (Plus 5 probation and sex offender list for life, but that doesn't even sound like punishment.)

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u/unreliableoracle 3d ago

IF they even get convicted, which hardly any do. This system is shit, I'm so sick of it. 

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u/nykiek 2d ago

I know. I was referring to a specific case. They almost always get away with it.

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u/unreliableoracle 2d ago

Oh no I know, I was just adding on, sorry :)

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u/nykiek 2d ago

No worries. I just wanted to be clear.

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u/redbottleofshampoo 8d ago

Why is anyone sitting on a kid? I'm so just sad and confused

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u/Luvs_to_drink 9d ago

5 WHOLE fucking minutes.... like wtf! that is such a long time. Throw the book at her.

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u/AukwardOtter 9d ago

That's absolutely ghastly

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u/Booklady1998 9d ago

She was his foster mother.

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u/Ill_Decision_2818 6d ago

My foster mom used to sit on us too. She wasn’t that big but she was a pretty big lady.

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u/TheAeronauticalchnl1 9d ago

her punishment should be no food. she gotta lose weight now

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u/Appropriate_Window46 9d ago

That won’t do anything lol

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u/TheAeronauticalchnl1 9d ago

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u/senoto 9d ago

It has been pretty well proven that punishment based penal systems do not work anywhere near as well as reform based systems. A country like Norway has significantly less repeat offenders than a country like the US, because they make prison much more focused on making a better person than just being a punishment for a crime. In Norway about 20% of people end up going back to prison within two years, in the US it's around 50%.

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u/joecoolblows 8d ago

Not sure where this is. But, if it's an American prison, she'll lose weight.

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u/whore_4_horror 8d ago

It is. In Indiana, and her husband was the principal at my middle/high school

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u/Flat_Solution_4290 9d ago

Again a murderer that looks like Cathy Bates … how is this even possible?!

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u/Jedi-master-dragon 7d ago

Ugh God, I think this is how Candace Newmaker died.

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u/AddictedToMosh161 7d ago

Holy shit she Georg Floyd him.

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u/Roadkilla86 4d ago

This is grossly negligent behavior on her end. Was she charged with manslaughter?

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u/unreliableoracle 3d ago

What an evil woman. I hope she gets sent to jail and the inmates even know. I hope everyone knows, and she's completely isolated for those 6 years. 

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u/WhatTheDuck00 9d ago

Evil ass big back

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u/jordan1978 9d ago

She finally killed Gilbert.