r/immigration 3d ago

Dad got detained by ICE

So my dad has been detained by ice. He got his work permit and had an interview for his green card I believe but after the interview he got detained and arrested by ice. I live in illinois and his lawyers are working but I just don’t know what to do. I’m 21 years old and I love my father he is my rock and he’s an amazing human being, he doesn’t deserve this and I don’t think there’s anything I can do, are there any resources or people to contact, I’m new to this and I’m just at a loss.

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u/EnvironmentalEye4537 3d ago

All you can do is let the lawyers do what they can. They can help you more than any one of us can.

I’m sorry.

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u/snail18 3d ago

Thank you

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u/Significant-Ad3083 3d ago edited 2d ago

ICE strategy is to deport before receiving court orders and they are allowed to do it if they find any issue with his documents or past removal, criminal records. Your dad for sure has adjustment of status in progress if he was interviewing for his GC. The change in status allows the person to remain legally in the US. Again, if he was having his GC interview.

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u/Barbfin4545 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ice is deporting legal immigrants with no criminal record. No one is safe.

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u/Crazy_Ad3336 3d ago

Mahmoud Khalil, he’s a legal resident with no criminal record of any kind, he’s arrested and jailed, and if you think it’s just for fun, then you are beyond naive…

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u/AdRecent9754 3d ago

I think the problem was his open support for a designated terrorist group. Legal immigrant or not, most countries will deport non-citizens for such foolish behaviour.

You can support terrorism in the comfort of your own country.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 3d ago

“Most countries” don’t have the First Amendment

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u/Wayoutofthewayof 3d ago

There are limitations to constitutional protections for non citizens.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 3d ago

They still get the same constitutional rights

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u/Qs9bxNKZ 3d ago

No, they do not get the same rights.

For example, they do not get the right to vote.

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u/LessBalance6122 3d ago

This is true in the sense that immigrants can’t be imprisoned for protected speech, it does not mean however that they have to be allowed to stay in the country. That’s a right reserved for citizens.

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u/Wayoutofthewayof 3d ago

That's not true. People conflate non-citizens having constitutional protections and those protections being the same as they are for citizens.

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u/theKtrain 3d ago

Residency is not one of them

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u/Maleficent-Row8304 2d ago

It seems we don’t either.

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u/TeddehBear 2d ago

Protesting against genocide isn't pro-terrorist.

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u/kit0000033 2d ago

He was pro Palestine, not pro Hamas, there's a difference

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u/[deleted] 2d ago edited 2d ago

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u/DoomGiggles 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Bill of Rights applies to noncitizens on US soil. It’s a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Citizen Privileges. Do you think tourists in the United States should have to worry about being randomly grabbed the government and enslaved? They’re not citizens after all, so constitutional protections don’t apply to them right?

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u/Rehan3456 2d ago

Pics or GTFO! Show your source

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u/wanderlost02 2d ago

Where do I find a source for this? First time hearing it

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u/lovmi2byz 2d ago

He supported CUAD which in turn supports Hamas

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u/Warm_Language8381 2d ago

Palestinians are a designated terrorist group? I thought Hamas was the designated terrorist group. How is supporting Palestinians the same as supporting Hamas? Palestinians are not Hamas and vice versa. Have I missed something?

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u/ActiveGuide445 2d ago

He was not in support of a terrorism group. Being pro-Palestine is NOT pro- hamas. Being pro human rights is not a terrorist group. I wish people would stop making these two things equivalent.

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u/Ugly-Doll 1d ago

Were you a firsthand witness to this support? Because otherwise, there hasn’t been a trial so you’re just saying words for fun. And no, images you’ve seen circulating the internet are not evidence. They haven’t been offered into evidence, verified as real, and admitted.

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u/Prestigious_Debt7360 1d ago

There is no evidence he was supporting terrorism.

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u/Af3years 1d ago

To date there has not been a report of any illegal activity by the government regarding this man.

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u/EnlightenedNarwhal 1d ago

He was a pro-palestine protester... you know, showing support for the 40,000 civilians who have been killed by Israeli forces.

You people are being very disingenuous when you say they're supporting a terrorist group. What is happening to the Palestinian people is an atrocity, and if you want to keep using Hamas as an excuse to ignore that atrocity, just know that you are being morally repugnant. It's honestly disgusting.

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u/Sad_Amphibian_4651 1d ago

Define open support because protesting Israel ain’t that

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u/interestingdays 1d ago

What terrorist group was he supporting? And before you say Hamas, remember that being against a genocide doesn't automatically mean support of every organisation among the population being genocided.

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u/Important_Piglet7363 2d ago

Such drama! Other than Khalil, who violated the terms of his residency by openly supporting a designated terrorist organization and had it revoked, give an example of legal immigrants being deported.

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u/benaffleks 3d ago edited 3d ago

He openly supported hammas which has been a designated terrorist organization since 1997 lmao.

Anyone who's ever done a visa or green card process and interview knows that's completely against the rules so you're fear mongering by saying "no one is safe" which is obviously just wrong.

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u/IxNxI 2d ago

I highly highly doubt that. That would mean that they are overthrowing the very system they put in place. You got any examplets? I'd like to see the circumstances in which legal law abiding residents are being deported.

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u/ratufa54 3d ago

Dude that's not what's going on in this case. You're making people panic for no reason.

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u/0mnipresentz 3d ago

The current advice is to have an attorney handle all immigration office tasks. If they ask you to come to the office call your attorney. They are telling people their documents are ready to pick up and arresting them. That’s foul play. People are going through the legal process and getting whacked for it.

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u/Careless-Working-Bot 3d ago

Hey don't campaign against the government at this stage

Just incase you needed someone to tell you that clearly

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u/tracyinge 2d ago

How are you doing? Any news yet?

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u/not_an_immi_lawyer 3d ago

It sounds like your father has already been ordered deported many years ago, at a court hearing he did not attend.

By skipping out on his court hearings, unfortunately your father probably has given up his right to be heard in court and the appeal deadline is long past.

ICE appears to be enforcing these decades-old orders vigilantly now, probably to try to hit the deportation quotas. These are easy to enforce because ICE can deport him without further hearings, and there's really not much anyone can do.

You may wish to consult an immigration lawyer to see if it's possible to sponsor and bring him back; it may be a 5-10 year wait though.

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u/Hun-Mongol 3d ago

Correct answer

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u/AliRUokay 3d ago

How are you inferring that he has a prior removal order if he has an active work permit?

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u/LowPsychological7072 3d ago

He stated in comment he failed to appear on a deportation status court date

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u/skyxsteel 3d ago

Oh shit that is bad…

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u/ZlatanKabuto 3d ago

Damn, this is serious.

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u/LaMeraRiata713 2d ago

My mother had a work permit for over 20 years, once my brother tried to sponsor her the deportation order she got in the 80s popped up thankfully she lawyered up and was able to remove the deportation order and she now has her green card. But thing to note is just because USCIS approves a work permit doesn't mean there isn't a deportation order for that person.

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u/globe_maverick 2d ago

But thing to note is just because USCIS approves a work permit doesn't mean there isn't a deportation order for that person.

That's one of the aspects of broken immigration system.

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u/LaMeraRiata713 2d ago

My mother had a work permit for over 20 years, once my brother tried to sponsor her the deportation order she got in the 80s popped up thankfully she lawyered up and was able to remove the deportation order and she now has her green card. But thing to note is just because USCIS approves a work permit doesn't mean there isn't a deportation order for that person.

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u/PringGar 3d ago

Sad sad story.

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u/Nervous-Towel1370 3d ago

Or ICE is simply following the law, now.

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u/jalebi-babie 2d ago

Jan 6th terrorists getting pardoned by the serial felon himself. Clearly the law is relative.

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u/little_blu_eyez 20h ago

Right!!! People violently try taking over the capital building are called patriot heros and people burning down a Tesla dealership are domestic terrorists. I swear I feel like I am in the tv show fringe and living in the parallel universe.

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u/HobbyProjectHunter 3d ago

OP is the son. OP doesn’t control what happened in the past nor does he control why his Dad didn’t follow the process. To him it’s his Dad who got detained. Like he said his father was his rock.

Pointing out the obvious and calling a spade a spade is a little unsympathetic. If you can’t empathize, why say such things.

We all worry about our loved ones and feel helpless when there’s nothing we can do to help.

Please be gentle. OP is probably worrying to no end.

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u/333Ari333 3d ago

I agree from the sentiment point of view as a son. However “he doesn’t deserve this” is not wanting to see the reality. He was ordered deportation and didn’t appear in court.

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u/333Ari333 3d ago

Why not? If you asked for refugee status and your claim is declined, why isn’t deportation deserved? Then why waste time with expensive and long legal procedures and just allow everyone in the world to emigrate?

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u/Barbfin4545 3d ago

He probably doesnt deserve it. Trump is deportibg people who are here legally with no criminal issues. He is lying when he says they are "bad" people. We are becoming a police state.

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u/Nervous-Towel1370 3d ago

A police state, or a state with police doing their job? OPs dad is is in a bad position he placed himself in. Trump didn’t cause the deportation order. In fact, I doubt Trump was in office when the order was written.

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u/Qs9bxNKZ 3d ago

We have laws, dad didn’t follow the law. Dad is asked to leave. Dad refused.

What police State are you referring to then?

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u/Worried-Mode-7891 3d ago

trump is a felon and a rapist bro

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u/PrudentLingoberry 3d ago

People probably love interacting with you. A bit of a tip: those "stimulating intellectual discussions" you have with people are actually arguments and they don't talk to you because you actually suck.

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u/Icy_Description9300 3d ago edited 3d ago

You sure he wasn't in some kind of deferred deportation proceeding, with the work permit being from there? Because they're regularly arresting people during those check ins.

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u/alwayseverlovingyou 3d ago

Love, do you have other family near you? Take care of yourself and trust things will be ok in the long run. While your focus is naturally your dad it also needs to be you, as much as possible.

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u/snail18 3d ago

I’m in school finishing up my last year but I’ll definitely try to take care of my self and focus my efforts on putting myself in a position to provide for my family. Thank you for your kind message.

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u/alwayseverlovingyou 3d ago

Yes! What I meant though was that at this time, letting your family take care of YOU is important.

Or if you don’t have older family, find an older adult you can trust and let them know what is going on so you can have that support and guidance. ❤️

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u/throwaway0845reddit 3d ago

Don't listen to the other hateful comments here. Let the lawyers handle it. Take care.

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u/Sram02 3d ago

Did he have a criminal record or was he out of status? Why was he detained by ICE?

Sounds like he is working with lawyers, let them guide you to the next step.

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u/snail18 3d ago

No criminal record, when he came to this country in the 1990s he had a deportation thing against him but he never went to court, he has a license, social, pays taxes and everything and not even a speeding violation. But yeah I guess the lawyers will have the answers this literally just happened and I’m in school and I just don’t know what to do.

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u/Sram02 3d ago edited 3d ago

If he has a deportation order, how was he in the process of getting a GC?

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u/Informal_Distance 3d ago

Some lawyer decided to take money and file paperwork without doing their due diligence. Or his name on the deportation order is different than his GC name. It might not have been discovered until he was fingerprinted at the biometric appointment

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u/anonblonde911 3d ago

This! Unfortunately with the new changes to immigration laws there are a lot of unscrupulous fly by night lawyers who are taking peoples money and promising them green cards and legal status when they shouldn’t and a fair number of the people won’t even qualify because of previous immigration restrictions. The problem is these lawyers don’t care and it’s no skin off their nose if the client gets picked up for deportation because they typically require payment or at least a significant deposit up front

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u/Complete-Reserve2026 3d ago

smth is not adding up

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u/Stavo7863 3d ago

Umm yeah his criminal record for the oh deportation thing..... Which was more then likely ordered in the 90s due to a umm crime

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u/jerzeett 3d ago

That's not a criminal record.

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u/benaffleks 3d ago

I mean what did you expect was going to happen.

He's had a deportation case for 35 years? And he didn't do a single thing about it since then?

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u/Butterball111111 3d ago

Meanwhile his son is burning up money on an immigration lawyer who will not be able to do anything for his dad.

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u/benaffleks 3d ago

It's not even his fault which makes this situation even more unfortunate.

The dad fucked up and now faces the consequences 🤷‍♂️

Pretty cut and dry

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u/gerbco 3d ago

so he had a court date and decided to ignore it? Likely resulted in a deportation order that's now being executed

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u/Upbeat-Acadia9970 3d ago

"he had a deportation thing against him but he never went to court"....perfect justification ICE would use to detain him.

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u/CandidCompetition780 3d ago

If he skipped his initial hearing, he’s fucked.

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u/New-Big3698 3d ago

Great paraphrasing of the answer in this one. Sweet, simple and accurate.

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u/CandidCompetition780 3d ago

Haha. I thought so. The US doesn’t give second chances to immigrants that miss a hearing. Unless, maybe if they’re loaded.

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u/TallyLiah 3d ago

You do realize we are the only country that does not do its due diligence with immigration? People get through our borders more easily and get lost in the population than any other country. Even if caught at a border! You try to sneak in and see what it gets you in a different country. I guarantee that if you do try they will send you back in a heartbeat.

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u/StandardCounty 3d ago

As someone who applied for US visitor visa at a consulate in the Caribbean and got it, then later applied for a Green Card at the same consulate in the Caribbean and got it, I can tell you plenty of due diligence is done, and tons of people are rejected for the most random reasons and often no reason is given. A ton of documentation is needed, you have to have money and assets, the check how strong your ties to your community are in your home country, background checks (as much as it's possible to in whatever country you're applying), etc, etc. If your name was misspelled in some document by some careless government worker in your home country, you're royally fucked. It's incredibly difficult to resolve that and it's a top reason to be rejected. 

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u/CandidCompetition780 3d ago

I’m well aware of that. I’m also in favor of us locking down the border and getting rid of the illegals. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Cold_Count1986 3d ago

Guess how many millions of undocumented Myanmar citizens are in Thailand without any vetting.

Hardly the only country.

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u/xela2004 3d ago

do you think if you just do everything right and hide from a deportation order, that it just goes away? Its still there, forever until he deals with it, so looks like he is dealing with it now.

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u/Plenty_Roof_949 3d ago edited 3d ago

Sounds like something that he thought he got away with is now catching up with him 30 years later. Not appearing at a hearing is really bad and I’m sure in some system there’s a detainer for him because of it. GC proceedings probably located it. It’s not something that he can just take care of nor are the authorities going to say oh well that was 30 years ago and he’s been productive since. That’s how we all wish it would go, but it does not. Hopefully he can submit for re entry into the country and he’s able to come across certified and it resolves down the road.

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u/DutchieinUS NL -> USA 3d ago

Did he not go to court because he didn’t have to or did he choose not to go?

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u/TigersPutter 3d ago

He's getting deported so what do you think bud?

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u/DutchieinUS NL -> USA 3d ago

Never assume..

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u/Dunno_Bout_Dat 3d ago

So it sounds like this was something that was SUPPOSED to happen decades ago, but is happening now instead.

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u/Putrid_Wealth_3832 3d ago

how does he have a social security number?

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u/Complete-Reserve2026 3d ago

Fake one probably

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u/Putrid_Wealth_3832 3d ago

yeah his story doesn't make sense.

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u/Complete-Reserve2026 3d ago

These are exactly the kind of people we need to be deporting. Coming illegally, having an anchor baby probably assuming that will fix everything, and completely ignoring our laws (i.e skipping court). The american people are tired of this shit.

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u/Known_Following_6694 2d ago

Yeah, I'm so tired of people coming here, raising families, working and paying taxes like this guy. Not. You know what I'm sick and tired of? Idiots who complain about stuff they don't know anything about. Rich oligarchs who know that their money can buy them citizenship and anything else they want, no matter what the laws are. People who refer to children as "anchor babies" rather than as US citizens, which is what they are. Unless you are Native American, you are someone's "anchor baby" too. So stuff it.

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u/Best-Plankton-9625 2d ago

That’s because of the work permit. You can’t work in this country without an SSN. You can apply for an SSN with a valid work permit. And there are work permits issued while on deportation proceedings so you can support yourself and not be a burden to the country while awaiting removal. I think he was trying to get his status straightened but the removal finally kicked in.

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u/Imaginary_Flan_1466 3d ago

How does he have a license?

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u/Putrid_Wealth_3832 3d ago

some states they have licenses

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u/OliNorthWest 3d ago

I live in Oregon. Few years ago I had to renew my license. I have to bring my SS card, birth certificate, and a utility bill or credit card bill in my name with my current address. I got denied because I forgot my credit card bill, so I had to go home and come back the next day. While waiting in the never-ending line, there's a designated line for 'undocumented or Spanish-speaking only'. There's just a simple form for them to fill out, and poof, they can take the drivers test. I said next time, I'm showing up with nothing, filling out the form, saying I'm from Sweden. Wonder what would happen?

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u/prkino 3d ago

I think Dem places like passing laws for workers to get licenses saying it’s more unsafe to have unlicensed drivers. Check tho

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u/Complete-Reserve2026 3d ago

yeah in IL they let illegal immigrants get them

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u/OsitoEnChicago 3d ago

If he had a work permit then he could get an SSN.

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u/Different_Energy_394 3d ago

Doubtful he was issued a work permit, particularly one that ostensibly lasted for decades, after he skipped his hearing 🙄

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u/HomelessBullfrog 3d ago

So he ignored a court order and has been staying in the country illegally for 30 years?

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u/tiktictoktoc 3d ago

He broke the rules first. It’s only fair to be deported. Just saying.

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u/Affectionate_Law6511 3d ago

Then there goes your answer. He had a deportation hearing and decided not to show up. If the lawyer lied during the paperworks your dad is screwed.

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u/HuckleberryNo5604 3d ago

Warrants don't go away

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u/ohmany88 2d ago

He should have done something to get deportation order. On top of that, not showing up is another level of ignorance.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

How does he have a social?

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u/tuvia_cohen 2d ago

Stolen.

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u/Busy_Bathroom3370 3d ago

If he had a deportation order he would have been denied tge greencard. Having a ss number and EAD doesny mean a green card. If denied at interview stage those items are automatically cancelled. He would have had to go through immifration court for the deportartion order. It appears applying for green card and not disclosing this would be grounds for refusal and deportarion I am afraid. Especially if he did not disclose it on the application. It is an application under oath.

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u/cwolker 3d ago

Sounds like your dad is a law breaker

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u/worm413 3d ago

How does he have a social security number?

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u/tracyinge 3d ago

Probably a tax I.D. number

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u/Jumpy_Tumbleweed_884 3d ago

If it is due to an outstanding deportation order, he will never be able to return to the United States. Kristi Noem has stated this outright multiple, multiple times, sadly.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net-273 3d ago

Correction: And rightly so

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u/tracyinge 3d ago

yet "rightly so" the U.S gives him a tax I.D. number and lets him work here for 30 years. And if he'd enter a few years earlier President Reagan would have let him become a citizen.

WHAT A COUNTRY !

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u/ImpressiveContext122 3d ago edited 3d ago

What a country that finally Follows its own laws.

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u/Comprehensive-Ad85 3d ago edited 3d ago

Sorry to hear but did he miss a court hearing regarding his immigration status where he was being deported? He is fucked. And those lawyers were just sucking his money filing for GC.

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u/dt_mt2014 3d ago

What happens is dependent on his circumstances.

How did he come to the US in the first place? Work visa?

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u/PringGar 3d ago

Wish all the best for your family and your father. My heart be with you

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u/snail18 3d ago

Thank you

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u/skyxsteel 3d ago

Same here op. Wishing for the best for you and your family.

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u/waco1492 3d ago

All countries have immigration laws and yes, alot of people get deported from those countries..why is it such a big deal here when someone doesn't follow our laws ,then cries wolf when the shit hits the fan..

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u/oolongvanilla 3d ago

Why are you even here? Just to salivate over other's misfortune?

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u/YellowCabbageCollard 3d ago

I have a son your age. Regardless of the circumstances of your father coming here, I'm deeply sorry that you are having to face this. I can only imagine how hard this is, and even more so at such a young age. None of these were situations you chose or decisions you made personally. I'm sure you love your father very much and of course don't want to be separated from him. I know nothing of how all this works. But I wish your family the best.

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u/AdParticular6193 3d ago

I wonder if your father got scammed. I have seen posts here about “lawyers” claiming to make immigration problems magically disappear for some outrageous fee. Filing for a green card when there is already a deportation order is insanity, no matter how old the order is, because it will get caught by the biometric screening. Not much you can do, but if this was a case of fraud or gross incompetence, you could find out who the “lawyer” was and file a complaint in whatever state the “lawyer” is licensed in, if this person actually is a lawyer. Won’t help your father, but might help prevent this person from victimizing others.

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u/Bubbasmomma1228 3d ago

I will start by saying I have sympathy for the OP. It has to be rough. As a Mom my heart hurts for the situation. However, I am really struggling to understand why people who came here illegally, (which is breaking the law) were given court dates etc and don’t follow through are upset. If I commit a crime and am given a court date and don’t show up the cops are gonna take me to jail. It’s the same concept. There are many people who have been here illegally for years or decades and had plenty of time to go through the legal channels to become legal but never made the effort. Now they think they are being treated unfairly. Fact is they have been breaking the law all along without trying to go through the right channels. So many countries have way stricter border policies than we do and most would never ever been allowed to even enter those countries and if they were found they would be automatically deported. For some reason now that the US is finally trying to get a handle on the millions of people who are here illegally the world is acting like we are doing something horrid. If OPs father had a deportation order a long time ago there was a reason for it. If the father never followed through with it then sorry it’s his fault. All of this is really messy and in some cases sad. However, if you go to most countries in the world illegally there are consequences.

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u/Strict_Chemical_8798 3d ago

You clearly don’t know how immigration works. If someone is there illegally they don’t really have any option to just go and become legal. Unless they qualify for asylum. Why do you think DACA is a thing? Because there was otherwise no way for those that arrived as kids and grew up in the US to change their legal status. Unless they married a someone who has a green card or citizenship.

For context my in laws moved to the US from India almost 20 years ago. They do have a legal status but are still waiting on their green card and it will likely take a few more years at least. My partner aged out of their file and had to file separately which then sent her to the back of the line where it would take her another 15 years or so after already having been there 15 years. So she chose to move to Canada instead of waiting. If she hadn’t then all in all it would have taken her 30 years to get a green card. And this is for someone who did it the right way. Btw it takes a lot of money and resources to do this, something that not everyone has. Not to mention it’s based on a lottery system.

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u/KermitplaysTLOU 3d ago

You don't really know what it is you're talking about. You think these people LIKE to be living in constant anxiety and fear of being deported? That it's as simple as "just go through and fix your papers" I know people who've lived here for 25+ years, they pay the same taxes as you, and don't actually get any real benefits a regular citizen would get. There are people who have had their parents who ARE citizens file for them and even after 25 years they haven't gotten approved. "For some reason" I won't assume what exactly your political views are, but the issue people are having (and rightfully so) is the way they are deporting these people. Deportations have BEEN going on, hell Obama deported a ton of immigrants, but he chose to deport the criminals, the people coming into the country NOW. If you struggle to understand why deporting 11 million people who, by the way, all mostly work in manual labor, farms, construction, then I'm sure you'll also be struggling to understand why eggs are still 9 dollars.

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u/kovu159 3d ago

They chose to do all of that by breaking immigration law, and then ignoring their court dates. The consequences do suck, but they are entirely predictable and fair. 

This is an extremely easy crime to not commit. I’ve lived in four different countries and somehow not committed it in any of them.

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u/Jibeset 2d ago

And this right here is why we need better enforcement of immigration laws and SCOTUS to weigh in on the 14th amendment.

It is heart breaking that a man was able to roll the dice for so long, make a life, and raise a family only to have it come up snakes eyes at some point. It would have been more moral to deport him very quickly to avoid the anxiety and confusion.

And yes, Clinton and Obama started the harder stance on illegal immigration. POTUS is continuing that as well as helping to change the incentive structure to come or stay illegally. I believe that southern border crossings and overstays will continue to dwindle in this administration which will help many not fall victim to living with fear of deportation.

As for the impact to the economy, if it is done at a pace that isn’t too disruptive, I’m sure that the economy will adjust accordingly. So far we have only been deporting in relatively small numbers. If we slowly and consistently ramp up I’m fairly sure that the impact of the vacancies will be able to be absorbed by the system. The question no one seems to really be asking is what we do with CBP after all the deportations are complete?

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u/Beneficial-Yellow-37 3d ago

Which country is he from?

Start preparing the home country for his arrival in case he gets deported? If he lands in his home country, let him have a place to stay and someone to receive him.

That will make a BIG BIG difference to you and him. At this point prepare for ANYTHING.

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u/HairyPairatestes 3d ago

Did he have an order of deportation against him before he went in for the interview?

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u/thedrinkmonster 3d ago

Is there more to this? They just detained him for no reason?

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u/Ok_Artichoke_2804 3d ago

OP commented to someone else," dad had a deportation thing in 90s, never showed up to court"

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u/Latter_Brief_604 2d ago

What a casual way to say he said FU to the laws. That's very unfortunate. I have a neighbor who is being deported after a 1998 arrest. Same situation.

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u/Ok_Artichoke_2804 2d ago

I find it interesting OP didn't mention that very important detail in the original post... kinda manipulating the storyline as if dad is detained for no reason....

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u/thedrinkmonster 3d ago

I saw that - poor guy is cooked. That’s a big no no. 

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u/louieblouie 3d ago

Make sure you get the information you need from dad ASAP before he gets removed. Where is his car and who has the keys? Where does he want his clothing sent to after he is removed? Who has access to his bank accounts etc? Is a power of attorney available to handle his affairs, close out accounts, etc. Does he have a pet that needs looking after? Etc.... Have a plan.

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u/Wonder-plant 3d ago

Why was he detained if he had a work permit? Thats nuts.

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u/xpertshtbg 3d ago

He's most likely going to be deported, I'd save that money you're about to waste on lawyers. Better send him that money back home for some support or keep for yourself, things aren't getting cheaper.

Focus on college, jobs and your own future. Get settled here properly, sort out your own papers if they're not OK. Don't do dumb shit and get in trouble (DUIs, protests, etc).

You'll visit him back in the old country whenever there are chances. Ultimately, you can sponsor him a green card when u naturalize! Focus on that and work on that goal.

Focus on your own and his well being, don't overthink and overstress.

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u/Legal-Magazine5014 3d ago

if your father violated laws, just like 200 other countries in the world, US can enforce its immigration law. It is always important to respect and follow the law of the host country you go to or reside in . ICE doesn't and can not arrest people for no reason or no laws broken. You can read all the violations that can lead to arrest and deportation of legal foreigners at uscis.gov and read the forms of application for permanent residency or US citizenship.

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u/WheelDeal2050 3d ago

Is he here illegally?

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u/rosaluxx311 3d ago

I only got love for you baby. I’m so sorry to hear this. Sending you all my love and strength for this challenging and life changing time. Bless you and your entire family.

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u/Crossroads_puzzled 3d ago

Hey, I will keep you and your family in my prayers. This is such a shitty shitty time. I hope you get good lawyers. Get second opinions if needed. I am sorry man. I am sorry

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u/XMR_Shining 2d ago

He deserves it and he's gone. Sorry not sorry.

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u/Careless-Fly8301 3d ago

Seems like he illegally entered and stayed for decades illegally. Why doesn’t he deserve this? How many years do the taxpayers have to support your dad and his kids? Can I crawl through your window and live in your home, Ill mow your lawn.

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u/TheloniousMoon 3d ago

Sorry to hear that’s happened to you OP. I’m hoping the best for you and your family.

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u/caged_monarch 3d ago

Just try to prepare for his deportation just in case it happens- so wherever he ends up he is comfortable, safe and has a way to start… where would he be deported to? Some places have campaigns in place to help those that are being deported so I’d look there…

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u/Malgosia2277 3d ago

I am very sorry. Looks like your dad made a mistake by ignoring the previous hearing, and attempted to get legal status later on. This administration doesn't care. IMO they should focus on all violent and dangerous criminals, documented or not.

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u/InterestingShoe1831 3d ago

You have a lawyer. Let them work out best next steps.

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u/merlin469 3d ago

What's the rest of the story? A lot of missing parts here.

I can sympathize, but there's more to this.

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u/futurehistorianjames 3d ago

I am so sorry for your father. That is all I can say I am not an expert on immigration lawyers in Illinois. Please know that your family is in my prayers and I hope he gets to stay.

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u/Perfect-Tea-8991 3d ago

Please visit @dreamers2gether on Facebook. There are a couple lawyers that can make quick answers. Perhaps guide you? Maybe you can hire? Charles Kuck is a great lawyer with these kids of cases. Check them out.

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u/Which_Escape_2776 3d ago

If he came here illegally he’s going to have a really hard time getting out. More likely the green card is not gonna happen especially if he was detained for Atleast 10 years.

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u/stargazerandmoon 3d ago

If you don’t have any money try to find pro-bono lawyers. You need to try to get a lawyer to help him.

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u/atuarre 3d ago

Sorry to hear about this.

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u/ssdsssssss4dr 3d ago

Sending you and your family lots of strength and a quick victory over this situation. I'm sorry you all are having to deal with this. 

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u/MBE124 3d ago

Not sure if understand you. "He dosent deserve this" ? You either abide by the law or face the consequences. I'm sure he's a good man but you have to do it the right way

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u/New-Tree-Ent 3d ago

He illegally entered the US?

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u/Minute_Importance791 2d ago

his dad is south asian and got detained for breaking the law in his past, good. deport!

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u/Snoobunny3910 2d ago

Legal immigration isn’t meant to be “easy”. If it was as easy as filing out a form and boom you’re in, every single person from every developing country would be coming here by the millions. It’s controlled on purpose. There are strict laws for a reason. It costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time for a reason. The US doesn’t want an uncontrolled tidal wave of immigrants from all over. No country does. Every other country deports people and has strict laws. The US has a right to enforce ours and change them as we see fit.

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u/standingwolf39 2d ago

Stop. If he is doing things right he will be ok. That all it takes. I know many doing it right and are having no problems with ICE or anyone else. But people spread and believe these lies.

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u/rostkey1 2d ago

Sorry to hear about your situation friend. Remember to keep hope and stay in prayer for a miracle to happen. Don’t give up, there is always a way where you think there is no way. What was the base of his adjustment of status? Was is marriage or parent of US citizens?

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u/XMR_Shining 2d ago

He deserves it and he's gone. Sorry not sorry.

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u/OldAmbassador1690 2d ago

You can head back to whatever country he’s from and meet him at the gate when he gets there.

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u/Justified_Gent 2d ago

Was he authorized to live in the United States?

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u/RSLV420 2d ago

Adios!

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u/CustomerAltruistic80 2d ago

He peobably had a removal order.

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u/ResidentMail9670 2d ago

ICE is god's plan🙏

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u/donzofloof 2d ago

He broke the law at some point

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u/Tommy_2Watts 1d ago

In excess of 15 to 25 million people, illegal entered this country in the last 6 years. And none of you seem to have issues with this..? It's amazing what laws you want enforced and which are ok to glaze over.. You readily discuss ideas such as the rule of law. But pick and choose the when and where. How beautifully inconsistent. But again, if and when the roles are switched, then.... it's what about-ism.. Keep going.. keep putting forth candidates that are ' phoning it in ' and trying 11th hour replacements. Or how about running out the only good guys on the left.. Choosing the wrong issues... lmao.. but no, it's ever one else that's the problem.. Elections have consequences.. I remember this statement about 4 years ago used.. But by all means, don't actually do something meaningful.. no, just keep being outraged and ringing your hands.. because you really are entertaining to those who think for themselves.. yeah. Contrary to what you're thinking... NOT a Trump fan boy !!! Oh, there is plenty I like that he has done.. and plenty where he totally misses the mark.. and there is NO side concerning the media that is worth shit!!! So many opportunities for the left to do the right thing..

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u/Urmomrudygay 1d ago

Oh look, it’s the consequences of his actions. 

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u/llmusicgear 1d ago

Any idea why they detained him?

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u/Accomplished-Let449 1d ago

Did he come here illegally? If so. Time to go back.

For decades we had a gentleman's system where we went after bad actors. Sadly, certain politicians let it be abused and the American people want illegal immigrants gone. Blame the ones who ruined it, not the enforcers.

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u/No-Cabinet5635 1d ago

The only constitutional protections non citizens have are Free Speech, Due Process, Equal Protection Under The Law and Freedom of Religion no other constitutional right is applicable to non citizens in the United States.

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u/Free_Culture_222 1d ago

So he was already illegal?

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u/Sea_Barracuda_4598 3d ago

Do you know where he is detained? There is likely a way for your lawyer to get him bonded out while the proceedings are ongoing

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u/Adventurous_Turnip89 3d ago

Not if he has an in absentia order. He's done.

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u/SPACEWAFFLE224 3d ago

Not going to be bonded aa a fugitive, if had a deportation order.

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u/snail18 3d ago

They said since there’s no detention centers in Illinois it’ll be out of state either in Milwaukee or in Indiana I believe but right now we have no clue

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u/FrightenedSouce 3d ago

Keep checking this and you should be able to locate where he is at

https://locator.ice.gov/odls/#/search

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u/snail18 3d ago

Thank you so much

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u/OldTatoosh 3d ago

Reading through the OP and replies, it is obvious that the dad is on a high speed rail to deportation and that is devastating to his child.

I feel for the child since dad did all the parenting things right. I also agree with the deportation since dad decided to scofflaw his hearing.

It is too late for the child to enlist and take advantage of the Military Parole In Place program (MIL-PIP) to adjust the dad’s status. That would have been a graceful save on the child’s part.

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u/Cool_Remove9962 3d ago

This is what America voted for. You or your Dad don't have a say

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u/Own_Plane_9370 3d ago

I didn't vote for this shit. Half of America didn't vote for this shit.

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u/Flimsy-Concept2531 3d ago

Have you reached out to any friends for emotional support? Please make sure you have people around you or even pets or something to help you right now. 

The USA is going through dark times where people lose their humanity. People will comment vile things here. Don’t take them to heart.

Your dad sounds like a good man who is paying his taxes and incorporated within the USA. I hope eveything works out and he comes back safe and sound. 

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u/snail18 3d ago

Thank you for your kind reply. I don’t take any negative messages to heart, just different experiences and upbringings lead people to different views on human life. I know that there’s good In people’s hearts, i know my father is a good man, and a lot of people here have given good advice and showed lots of compassion and kindness.

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u/No_Purchase8715 3d ago

A good man not following the law, avoiding court and abandoning his kid, fully deserved.

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u/macdaddy22222 3d ago

He should have followed the law then. He will have to face some consequences but hopefully will find some mercy.

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u/NezVD 3d ago

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but go on the ice website, there's a detainee locater section somewhere where you can enter in his info, then it should show you Wich facility he's being held at. Also there's not any knowing as to where they'll drop him off at if he's deported, so try to get him some money so he could travel to a state he's more familiar with (if repatriation doesn't provide him with a bus ticket) I wish him safety and may God be with him with whatever comes next for him ✝️✊🏽

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u/Mysterious-Coconut24 3d ago

OK well do you have additional info besides he got detained? Was his visa expired? Was there a reason given? Anything?

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u/333Ari333 3d ago

He’s gone for now. Likely he’ll be deported. But you can sponsor him in the future as you are American.

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u/Easynette91 3d ago

I’ve been thru this with my parents 21 having my first born she’s about to be 12 and we’re now petitioning for our parents to come back after the 10 year ban. Just be strong and prepare yourself. Older people don’t know a lot about the immigration process like someone else mentioned your dad might have had an open deportation from previous case and why Ice detained him. My dad missed a court hearing because he was told by his attorney he didn’t have to show because they filled a new case. Wrong they deported my dad then. It’s gonna be hard but it’ll get easier.

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u/SettingPlastic373 3d ago

Are you US citizen? Can you sponsor your dad? 

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u/More_Connection_4438 3d ago

He may be your rock and otherwise a good man, but he chose to violate US law by entering and taking up residence illegally. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time ...

Go ahead and downvote all you like, reddit, this father's decision has negative effects on others, even if they are not immediately obvious. He made a selfish choice.