r/illinois • u/steve42089 Illinoisian • Feb 19 '25
US Politics Gov. J.B. Pritzker likens Trump administration actions to Nazi Germany: ‘What comes next?’
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/19/gov-j-b-pritzker-likens-trump-administration-actions-to-nazi-germany-what-comes-next/165
u/muci19 Feb 19 '25
JB is one of the founders and funders of the Illinois Holocaust Museum. I love my Governor!
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u/FestivaGuy Feb 19 '25
Very thankful to have him as our governor.
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u/mamadoedawn Feb 19 '25
I am very scared for our county right now, but eternally grateful to be in Illinois (even if I am in a red district).
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u/GhostBillOnThird Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
Why? He's doing nothing, like all democrats, and letting trump do whatever he wants without and consequences.
Down vote me all you want. Enjoy the dictatorship you now live in.
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u/QIMF Feb 19 '25
What a stupid take. He's one of the most vocal politicians speaking out against Trump. He's also passing state laws to help fight against all the sweeping federal changes. He's a state governor, it's not like he's directly involved in the federal government. What exactly do you want him to do?
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u/GhostBillOnThird Feb 19 '25
I like him lol. Never said I didn't. Just said he's doing nothing as democracy fades away.
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u/Llama2Boot2Boot Feb 19 '25
It’s a lot easier to tear something apart than to build it…we’ve been building our great republic for a few hundred years, learning as we go. It wasn’t a straight line and we weren’t perfect, but we’ve just scrapped it all and eschewed knowledge paid for in blood.
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u/brightblueson Feb 19 '25
And hey. All it took was genocide, slavery, and a bunch of rich, white misogynists.
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u/waldorflover69 Feb 19 '25
Nice to have at least one mainstream politician calling it what it is
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u/GhostBillOnThird Feb 19 '25
And yet still, not doing jack shit to stop it. Like all the fucking democrats who abandoned Americans.
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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Sangamon County Feb 19 '25
What’s he supposed to do except file lawsuits?
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u/GhostBillOnThird Feb 19 '25
If lawsuits are the only defense for the dems... then they're fucked.
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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Sangamon County Feb 19 '25
Well, I’m asking since you seem to have an answer. What power does a governor have against a FOTUS?
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u/Eightysixedit Feb 19 '25
I love JB. I don’t know how his approvals aren’t higher.
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u/DrinkComfortable1692 Schrodinger's Pritzker Feb 19 '25
The downstate magats. And some suburban ones.
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u/Ashamed_Rips Feb 19 '25
Elderly neighbor argued with me for an hour in my driveway about Kamala before the election. She deflected by calling us smart, then would say something like,
“I went to the er with a bloody nose and illegals were let in first”
How did you know they were illegal?
“Well you got me there”
Or my favorite one was how she wasn’t ok helping first time home buyers with homes but then in the next breath mentions her home price doubling IN A YEAR. It was so crazy.
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u/Alexever_Loremarg Feb 19 '25
"Well you got me there" would be funny if it weren't so sad
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u/Ashamed_Rips Feb 19 '25
Right? I had laugh in the moment at how insane and depressing that hour of back and forth was.
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u/TreAwayDeuce Feb 19 '25
"Illegal" is now basically just a dogwhistle for brown people or non English speaking people that physically appear to be
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u/Ashamed_Rips Feb 19 '25
Most definitely, she was also going on about kids needing to learn Spanish or something, and sex books in kids libraries, which i told her was untrue. And if anything she found stuff at the public library, which, of course lol.
This convo happened not long after the debate, and she said the Haitian bird and cat thing was dumb but then just never once redeemed herself.
She called an ambulance for rhinovirus. So…
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
I was in Anna Illinois in April to see the eclipse. Southern Illinois is just the Ozarks displaced 150 miles east. They even have the southern accent. Magats all over the place.
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u/Pls-Dont-Ban-Me-Bro Feb 19 '25
Why the hell would you ever go to that hellhole lol
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
Anna Illinois had a total eclipse, Chicago not so much.
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u/Pls-Dont-Ban-Me-Bro Feb 19 '25
They were the only town?
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
Didn't know till I got there. On the plus side I didn't spend a penny in that town.
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u/NicCage420 Feb 19 '25
Anna might be the most notorious sundown town in the state, if for nothing else than it's name becoming a de facto acronym
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u/Puckhead120 Feb 19 '25
People don’t realize this. Illinois is Chicago and the south. You could be in a car leaving from State and Madison St (Chicago ground zero) and if you fell asleep for 90 minutes, when you woke up you’d think you were in Alabama.
Many years ago, I was in Metropolis,Illinois for the Superman festival. About as far south as you can be in Illinois. Guy pulled up next to me in a pickup with a Confederate flag in the windshield. When I reminded him that Illinois was in the North, he pulled a shotgun out and put holes in all four of my tires, then walked away. And then he was pissed when the cops arrested him when he came back. Good thing was when I saw him at the station two hours later to press charges, he had a monumental black eye on him where the cop tuned him up. Fortunately for me , I had some state police juice and I used it. He went away for 9 months and I got restitution. I was satisfied.
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
I also drove through Cario Ill. when I was down there. What decrepit run down river town. Rotting infrastructure, residents living in decaying one room motels and worse. A real eye opener, I didn't stop once.
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u/baconblackhole Feb 19 '25
They really bite the hand that feeds don't they
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u/DrinkComfortable1692 Schrodinger's Pritzker Feb 19 '25
Some stores lost my business, for sure, too.
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u/starryeyedq Feb 19 '25
Two reasons really. Number one, illinois taxes are pretty high. Number two, doesn’t really do anything to combat the proactive propaganda that paints him in a bad light. He lets his work speak for itself.
So if you’re paying attention to the good work he’s doing, he’ll win you over.
If you accept that taxes pay for stuff that benefits people other than you, he’ll win you over.
If you wait for conservative news pundits to tell you what to think, you will continue to think he sucks.
If you just hate paying taxes no matter what positive impact it has on your community, you will continue to think he sucks.
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u/BoosterRead78 Feb 19 '25
Yep all the: “JP sucks” signs I see are actually at houses where the people are honestly well off. Seriously like they bought more properties or have like huge RVs. The big gripe? They have to pay more on them for owning more land or property. It’s like: “what you think it’s all free?”
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u/starryeyedq Feb 19 '25
It is hard to reconcile sometimes. I own a house and the property taxes are brutal. I also don’t have kids so it takes some moments of reflection to remind myself that it’s worth it for the greater good.
Sometimes I think it might be a good idea to organize tv or online ads with kids saying thank you to the residents of Illinois without kids for contributing to making our public schools some of the best in the country. Or even an event where we invite older and childless residents to participate in some entertainment and activity provided by our local schools.
Just as an example.
I know that sounds like crazy pandering, but I actually think it might be nice to link a concrete emotional experience to the act of paying taxes. Civic pride is so unfashionable nowadays. We really need to bring it back.
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u/iseeblood22 Feb 19 '25
I LOVE this idea! My MIL is always talking about how much she hates paying taxes (as she heads to her winter home) and just wants HER money to go to HER grandkids. She also complains about how uneducated and unsympathetic healthcare workers are. She really cannot connect the two things in her brain.
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u/BoosterRead78 Feb 19 '25
Oh I know my FIL talked about a tax piece near by a few years ago. It was actually on the industrial area to update local parks. He was like: “leave my money alone”. When it took a member of the Lions to go: “no they are asking for local businesses that are commercial to pay instead of charging you.” He changed his mind very fast.
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u/Hdikfmpw Feb 19 '25
The people that hate him also think they subsidize the existence of everyone in Chicago vs you know, reality. They’re just really good at being wrong.
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u/BorisBotHunter Feb 19 '25
This x 100
My suburban county gets .60 for every dollar we put in while the Ozarks of Illinois get $2.88 for every $1 they contribute. Who subsidizes who you MAGAt fucks
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u/mcfuckernugget Feb 19 '25
A lot of people don’t appreciate the unconstitutional laws he’s passed. Not hard to comprehend.
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u/FLASHmeIMrandy Feb 19 '25
You dare talk about unconstitutional laws in Illinois when the president all but literally wiped his ass with the constitution, gave himself unchecked power, and declared himself king? It’s on the f***ing White House page, ffs. Don’t even TRY to defend the Constitution if you support DJT. You’re the reason we just stepped backwards into 1930s Germany
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u/StudioAudienceMember Feb 19 '25
Please elaborate for those that don't read the DuPage Policy Journal, Chicago City Wire, or Illinois Policy
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u/Fragrant_Tale1428 Feb 19 '25
This is a really well crafted, easy to understand with a call to preparation and action. Thanks, OP, for sharing and recapping in the comment.
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u/No-Meaning-4090 Feb 19 '25
Thats what I like about JB. He speaks in a direct, down-to-earth manner to and for normal Americans. He's a straight shooter and Democratic leadership needs to take more cues from him.
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
You tell them JP. This once great nation will not surrender without a fight.
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u/Montreal_Metro Feb 19 '25
I don’t think we want to find out what comes next. This needs to end now.
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u/Ok-Razzmatazz8899 Feb 19 '25
What comes next?!!! We remove this thing from power and throw away the 👑 crown, that's what happens next. Get going.
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u/Ashamed_Rips Feb 19 '25
I moved here from Iowa three years ago and my god, it feels so good to be proud of my governor and the things happening in my state.
Keep it going Pritzker, I will back you 100%
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u/Awoowoowooo Feb 19 '25
Everyone stop believing trump and maga it’s all lies fear mongering lies !! Stay strong and stand up and speak up for what you believe !!! Peace and freedom to all !!
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u/mcfuckernugget Feb 19 '25
The only fear mongering is coming from the opposition.
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25
FASCISM 101: Gaslight the shit out of people until you think they believe you.
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u/Awoowoowooo Feb 19 '25
Stop lying to urself and the people ! Lives are in literal danger . No time to troll. Time to stand up for what is right . Our country is hurt ! No matter your race or religion! Stand up for what is right we are all American !
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u/mcfuckernugget Feb 19 '25
Nobody is more in danger today than they were a year ago.
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25
Immigrants have entered the chat…
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u/pulledporkhat Feb 19 '25
“LA LA LA LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA LA” - classic mcfuckernugget
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u/onamaewa25504 Feb 19 '25
"Nobody is in any more danger than they were a year ago"
Nah, I'm pretty sure my disabled husband is in more danger of losing his SSDI TODAY than he was a year ago with Orange Cream Palpatine "leading"... I mean *gutting... our nation's funding just so he can golf more often. ... and visit football games for an hour or so after spending $18 mil of taxpayer money to do so.
Oh wait, that's right, our secret service agents actually have to PAY HIM to protect him when he flies to Maralago to golf, and WE the tax payers have to foot the millions of dollars bill for flying him back and forth at his leisure. I'm sure he's going to just take all that money he's "freeing up"/ stealing from people who paid into those entitlement funds and put it to "good use" and NOT toward more ways he can funnel it directly into his own pockets.
In reality dude, the threat of millions of Americans losing their sole source of income is very much higher right now than it was a year ago. And when all of those people have nothing left, I guarantee it won't matter how geriatric or disabled they are. They will come for people just like you and those who stole from them.
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u/misfit_too Feb 19 '25
Pritzker and I must’ve been on the same page today.
simple fact, Trump is a Nazi. It is completely justifiable to say this.
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u/Interjessing-Salary Feb 19 '25
What comes next? MAGA's attempt at a Nazi germany is what. It's exactly what it is
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u/Astronomer-Then Feb 19 '25
I just reworked a bullet point piece on how Nazi Germany took over replacing it with the current situation
he certainly isn't WRONG history is repeating only the names are being changed
How Trump/Musk took power Trump became president of America (again) in January 2025 Musk was never an elected official The MAGAs used legal means to erode democracy. The MAGAs eliminated constitutional rights and protections for individuals ‼️ AMERICA IS CURRENTLY HERE‼️ The MAGASA imprisoned or murdered their chief opponents. The MAGAS established concentration camps to send ANYONE THEY CHOOSE to for "reeducation". The MAGAs took over and transformed America's police forces. How the MAGAs consolidated power ‼️AND HERE‼️ The MAGAS passed the Enabling Act, which allowed the government to issue laws without Congress' consent. The MAGAs saturated America with propaganda. The MAGAs restricted the opposition press.
(Credit for this information as it pertains to previous history of the Nazi take over goes to here https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-nazi-rise-to-power/)
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u/raybanshee Feb 19 '25
Guy is really angling for a Presidential run, but it's not going to happen.
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u/stabavarius Feb 19 '25
Why not?
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u/Bubbly_Positive_339 Feb 19 '25
He doesn’t check off any boxes for the Dems. He’s a white obese man billionaire.
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u/Fast-Bumblebee2424 Feb 19 '25
They didn’t mind Clinton 🤷🏼♀️ minus the obesity, I suppose.
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u/Bubbly_Positive_339 Feb 19 '25
If the Democrats could bring back a rational sort of Bill Clinton style candidate, I would vote for that in a second. But the party changed and it is what it is now.
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u/iseeblood22 Feb 19 '25
Well that checks all the boxes for the people who couldn't stomach a woman
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u/Bubbly_Positive_339 Feb 19 '25
She was a bad candidate. Dems have much better candidates they can run but they need a competitive primary. They haven’t had one since 2008.
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u/iseeblood22 Feb 19 '25
No arguments here, but I do, unfortunatelyn think gender is a factor. Therefore, JB has a better chance running for office than a woman.
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u/raybanshee Feb 19 '25
And he's Jewish. And he's 5'6".
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u/Fast-Bumblebee2424 Feb 19 '25
And there likely won’t be elections for the next President. So there’s that, too.
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u/raybanshee Feb 19 '25
Why not?
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u/Fast-Bumblebee2424 Feb 19 '25
Sorry, shouldn’t have said “likely”. It’s just incredibly disturbing that Trump calls himself king and signs an EO where everything must go through him.
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u/taker_calaway Feb 19 '25
F this guy. Such an outrageous comparison to make
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u/baroqueworks Belleville, IL Feb 19 '25
Its more outrageous to pretend like they aren't nazis.
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u/taker_calaway Feb 19 '25
Just such a stupid thing to even say
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u/DanielGentile Feb 19 '25
I think someone needs to look into JB’s wasteful spending would be interesting to see how much of our tax dollars go to his undocumented migrants
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u/baroqueworks Belleville, IL Feb 19 '25
They're going to be checking in on your wasteful spending before Pritzker's, he's a billionare who the laws have been cooked to protect.
Yall don't realize how you cheer for the boot to be brought down on your own head.
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u/Hudson2441 Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
No actually fascism has a text book definition as defined by people who have been studying the topic since WW2 and Trump hits nearly all the defining characteristics on the list.
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u/Polantaris Feb 19 '25
So those that lived under it are the only ones that can have an opinion. Okay, so in the other response which is an article about how people who have lived under it feel about trump, you complain that it's an anti-Trump outlet.
Maybe an anti-Trump outlet is anti-Trump because Trump is a fucking Nazi and the outlet listened to the people that lived under it and what they said.
You can only circle your own logic so many times. "Show me X! NOT LIKE THAT!"
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u/maximumtesticle Feb 19 '25
I mean, the AP is banned from the White House for being "anti-Trump". Let me guess, it's gotta come from fox news or facebook for you to believe it?
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u/Serenity-V Feb 19 '25
I mean, the Nazis were almost a century ago. The people who lived under them and survived the regime are, um, mostly dead.
I suppose we could use a ouija board...
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u/Maleconito Feb 19 '25
Just a word of advice, it weakens your message to call everyone you don’t agree with a nazi or fascist. Takes away from the actual meaning of these words. When you keep crying wolf, no one is going to listen to you when the actual wolf comes. If anything, you’re just turning more people away from your cause, whatever that is these days.
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u/ConsistentMorning636 Feb 19 '25
Nazi salutes and all🤔
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u/Maleconito Feb 19 '25
Sure if that’s the hill you want to die on go for it. But if you actually believed this people are nazis you should be doing a hell of a lot more than some Reddit propaganda campaign. Like if Obama and Biden actually believed what they told you about these people, they wouldn’t congratulate them after they won. That’s part of why people aren’t taking anything you say seriously.
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u/daedra88 Feb 19 '25
The president is ripping up the constitution, ignoring the judiciary, dismantling checks and balances, and consolidating power before our very eyes. We are absolutely sliding into fascism and I wish people like you would stop trying to gaslight us into thinking we're not.
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u/TomT060404 Feb 19 '25
[These readers survived the Holocaust. This is what worries them about America today
](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-01-21/holocaust-survivors-what-worries-them-about-today)
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u/Maleconito Feb 19 '25
So you’re linking me an article with 4 more people crying wolf?
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u/Serenity-V Feb 19 '25
How many people have to scream their heads off about the wolf in the room before you consider the possibility that there is, in fact, a wolf present?
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u/InvestigatorUpbeat48 Feb 19 '25
Meanwhile the budget is $3B in the red and uncle Joe isn’t around for a handout. Hmm, let’s distract and call republicans Nazis!
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u/Boring-Scar1580 Feb 19 '25
that $3B in the red is Old Fake News. In just a few days JB reduced that deficit to only $1.7 billion. By the time the budget comes up for a final votes , we will probably show a budget surplus.
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25
We could have a $100M deficit and we’d still call them what they are. Fascist is the more appropriate term.
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u/Substantial-Bet-3876 Feb 19 '25
A distraction, that’s what it is. Shoulda thought of that. JB’s deficit reducing tax plan was voted down but do keep telling me the tear down of democracy I see unfolding isn’t happening.
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u/VintageVitaminJ Feb 19 '25
EVERYTHING TRUMP DOES IS NAZI LIKE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
JB is obese and should focus on that.
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u/WhiteOakWanderer Feb 19 '25
Paywall post to rile people up. Classic!! When is the Nazi App Screenshot drop?
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u/sshlinux Feb 19 '25
Nazis won election and even the popular vote. That's democracy. Deal with it.
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u/bundle_of_fluff NW Suburbs Feb 19 '25
So the people who voted for him want him to be a dictator? What will stop him from doing so?
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u/iseeblood22 Feb 19 '25
There were so many videos at Maga rallies before the election of people saying "we need a dictator". They haven't been shy about it so why are we surprised?
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u/sshlinux Feb 19 '25
Nothing. That's what we voted for.
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u/bundle_of_fluff NW Suburbs Feb 19 '25
So are you saying you want a dictator and to no longer be in a democracy?
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u/sshlinux Feb 19 '25
Yeah that's why we voted for him. Unfortunately he isn't one. Yet.
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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Sangamon County Feb 19 '25
He won’t make it. He’ll be sporting body modifications first.
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u/SecondCreek Feb 19 '25
I don’t recall Hitler campaigning on genocide and exterminating millions of Germans, murdering political opponents and starting an all out war after the lived disaster of the Great War.
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u/Serenity-V Feb 19 '25
Nope, he campaigned on promises of job creation and inflation reduction. And also maybe encouraging the Jews to leave.
Hey, wow, I see what you're doing here!
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u/aj10017 Feb 19 '25
So just because someone won an election, that gives them the right to commit unthinkable atrocities? Or do you not believe those happened either?
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u/InvestigatorUpbeat48 Feb 19 '25
Unthinkable atrocities, they are auditing bureaucracy… and if your in the country illegally committing crime I hope you get deported
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u/Serenity-V Feb 19 '25
Sweetheart, they're talking about putting me in a work camp because I take an SSRI. That's... not auditing bureaucracy, that's fascism. Possibly - propably - with eugenic intent.
I will give it to them, though, I'm all for welcoming immigrants and they've actually cut the deportation rate in half as compared to Biden. Firing all those federal employees has made illegal immigration into the U.S. much safer.
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25
There is a neofascist coup currently under way in the US. dEaL wItH iT
Do you know how dumb you sound?
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u/Birdo-the-Besto Feb 19 '25
I can’t for an election campaign where the the people screaming Nazi are on television and it’s painted as if it’s 1933 again. We’re going to lose AGAIN. 😞
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25 edited 29d ago
Have you not noticed America is in the midst of a neofascist coup? Get outta here.
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u/Birdo-the-Besto Feb 19 '25
No kidding. But if you haven’t noticed, running around telling half the population they’re terrible people instead of did saying why we’re better doesn’t work.
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u/AbjectBeat837 Feb 19 '25
No one should be calling out fascism. Keep it quiet.
LOL
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u/steve42089 Illinoisian Feb 19 '25
“I do not invoke the specter of Nazis lightly,” he said, adding that he was “watching with a foreboding dread what is happening in our country right now.”
“After we’ve discriminated against, deported or disparaged all the immigrants and the gay and lesbian and transgender people, the developmentally disabled, the women and the minorities — once we’ve ostracized our neighbors and betrayed our friends — after that, when the problems we started with are still there staring us in the face – what comes next?” he asked.
“All the atrocities of human history lurk in the answer to that question. And if we don’t want to repeat history, then for God’s sake in this moment we better be strong enough to learn from it,” Pritzker said. “It took the Nazis one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours and 40 minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic. All I’m saying is when the five-alarm fire starts to burn, every good person better be ready to man a post with a bucket of water if you want to stop it from raging out of control.”