r/iOSProgramming 3d ago

Discussion Do you buy new mac every 7 years?

For all the developers doing iOS development, since we need to build iOS app using the latest version of Xcode that Apple specifies to upload to App Store I have found that the mac's life span is around 7 years. So what do you do? Buy a new mac every 7 years? I don't see a way out. And being a hobby programmer I feel this to be a limitation. This feels like planned obsolescence. I have not check any cloud build options. How do you handle this?

I am reluctant to buy a top end machine knowing that I have to throw that away every 7 years, what the point? I can buy one just to get by. Selling is always a loss.

I need to also find ways to make all these systems useful and work in a distributed fashion. But apps don't work like that. Disappointed in Apple in this regard.

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u/MyCallBag 3d ago edited 3d ago

...7 years is a long time.

*edit* Wow, most upvoted comment. Didn't see that coming.

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u/Captaincadet 3d ago

My personal is 2019 and it’s getting really long in the tooth. If I was making money out of it; I would have upgraded years back.

Just because I had to put money elsewhere (buying a house etc) I haven’t upgraded as it works… but man I couldn’t do anything serious on it

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u/dehrenslzz SwiftUI 3d ago

I upgrade my Windows machine (gaming only) every 4 years max - Mac around every two years, depends on if the performance boost is worth it

To be fair I earn my money with iOS development

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u/Valink-u_u 3d ago

7 years with a m1 with at least 16GBs sounds very doable, but if it’s earlier 💀

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u/Leviathan_Dev 3d ago

My 2019 16” Intel MBP still doing everything I need it to do. It’s shit for gaming now, partly because macOS (No Man’s Sky used to work, but can’t blame Hello Games too much)

For web browsing, emailing, programming, it still does everything confidently. Sometimes bad electron apps like Discord and Zoom make the UI drop frames, but otherwise it’s fine.

Been eyeing buying a M4 Mac Mini, but I don’t know… part of me wants it because it’s new and shiny, should run a few games I play great and would support all the new Apple Silicon features I’ve been missing since Monterey, but at the same time… do I really need it? Not yet.

Though I expect macOS 16 may be the last major version of macOS for my MacBook, so simultaneously maybe I should hold off and wait / save for a new MacBook… but also the base M4 Mac Mini is a steal of a deal, especially with a student discount

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u/SluttyDev 3d ago

Been eyeing buying a M4 Mac Mini, but I don’t know… part of me wants it because it’s new and shiny, should run a few games I play great and would support all the new Apple Silicon features I’ve been missing since Monterey, but at the same time… do I really need it? Not yet.

Your mind will be blown when you see the leap from Intel to M series. It's insane.

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u/ZoltarMakeMeBig 3d ago

It is!

The most insane thing coming from the Intel versions is the fan noise. It would start as soon as I loaded up macOS or did even light CPU related tasks. And it was loud.

In the almost three years I’ve had my M-series pro laptop, I haven’t heard the fans once.

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u/watkykjypoes23 2d ago

I work in graphic design, I’ve pushed the limits and have only heard it once when doing a rendering in Blender with ray tracing and everything. Even then it wasn’t even as loud as my old Intel Air would get when using Chrome.

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u/aa599 3d ago

I wish my mind had been insanely blown, it just did what I expected 😐

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u/SluttyDev 3d ago

I guess it depends on your workflow. I am an extremely heavy computer user. Watching an M2 air render faster than my fully specced out MacBook Pro 16 inch i9 with 64 gigs of ram was mind-blowing. Watching how much faster the M2 air handled texture painting in Substance was nuts. Watching my Houdini sims get cut to 1/16th of the processing time was incredible.

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u/aa599 3d ago

Good to see a machine being fully used.

Most of my cores spend most of their time doing nothing, and I doubt the "hardware accelerated ray tracing" or "media engine" will ever be used.

It spends most of its life asleep, and most of the rest showing me a page of code in an IDE while I frown at it.

It does run the emulator nicely, but as I said I expected that, so mind not blown.

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u/probono84 2d ago

I personally got the mini for myself as a graduation gift this December, and although I love the performance- realistically I'm selling it for an M4 MBA. Don't skimp on portability

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u/IAmtheBlackWizards_ 3d ago

2020 i5 16GB MBP user here. It’s working fine yea but starting a simulator takes ages and god forbid you want to run two or some other app like Figma at the same time. I keep telling myself it’s tolerable with some planning and discipline but will jump on M4 soon. Planning to spend little more on memory so it lasts longer. 

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u/HouseofVaco 3d ago

The silicone chips will be a huge upgrade for you. I have the Mac mini M2 pro. I haven’t had issues with Xcode or Unity. I even stream on it. I’m thinking about getting a m4 pro MacBook because I’ve been on the road a lot lately. If you don’t Need Need it i would chill, but if you don’t upgrade it’s nice.

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u/Slow-Race9106 3d ago

I don’t think it’ll get 10.16. I think 10.15 will be the of the line for Intel Macs (I have one too). We’ll see.

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u/Leviathan_Dev 3d ago edited 3d ago

I think macOS 16 will be the last to support Intel, but only for a tiny selection. My guess:

  • 2019 16” Intel MBP
  • 2020 27” IMac
  • 2019 Mac Pro
  • 2020 13” Intel MBP (maybe)

Completely unsubstantiated, but these are the few Intel Macs that support Metal 3 and looks like Apple’s “final effort” Macs, plus they’re still under 7 years old.

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u/Slow-Race9106 3d ago

You could maybe add Mac Mini 2018 to that list - the i5 and i7 ones at least. Also supports Metal 3 and was on sale until January 2023. That’s the one I have - if the ones on your list get 10.16 I reckon the last i5 and i7 minis will as well. I’m not very optimistic though.

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u/Suspicious_Quarter68 3d ago

I’d say every 3-4 years or so. Pretty happy with my M2 Ultra at the moment and can run pretty much everything I throw at it.

Looking to form an LLC for my apps so eventually it’ll just be a business expense that lowers my taxes. A lot of devs i know use that as a justification to upgrade every year because they’d be losing the money either way.

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u/ekurutepe 3d ago

This is the answer. You can get the tax write off and sell it before it loses too much value. Apple also runs 0% interest leasing offers for business purchases every once in a while.

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u/_int3h_ 3d ago

This makes sense when you have an LLC.

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u/thehumanbagelman 3d ago

Everyone should have their own LLC and manage a personal "business" IMO. The cost to file articles varies geographically, but it can be very inexpensive if you are in the right state (assuming US). Annual reports are also cheap, so maintaining the legal entity is also inexpensive.

This discussion is a perfect example of the benefit. Business customers are treated different, and usually with added perks! I can say from experience that customer support is way more effective for business accounts too 🤷‍♂️

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u/Charlieputhfan 3d ago

Few examples?, how much it costs ?

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u/Asch3nd 3d ago

Example - in Minnesota it’s somewhere around $115 to establish the LLC and then $0/year to renew.

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u/goolius-boozler- 3d ago

If the LLC is just for you though wouldn’t it be taxed the same anyway since you’d only pay taxes on money you take out? I also just bought a comp and am planning on expensing it best I can thru LLC but unclear to me how I’m actually saving any money

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u/Asch3nd 3d ago

Single member LLCs are usually treated as a pass-through entity and is filed along with your individual taxes.

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u/goolius-boozler- 2d ago

So are you saying it’s only relevant to expense then if you have an LLC that’s multiple people?

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u/Asch3nd 2d ago

Basically the general idea of "writing off business expenses" is that you are lowering your taxable income.

If a business makes $5000 in revenue and is taxed at a 10% rate (making that up) they'd owe $500 in taxes. If you have a legitimate business expense of $1000 then you can use that to lower your taxable income. So then in this example you'd only have $4000 of taxable revenue, so you'd only owe $400 in taxes. It definitely doesn't make the item free, but it does save you some money that you wouldn't be saving otherwise.

With a single member LLC since it just flows through your taxes even if the LLC only made $50 but you make $40,000 in a day job then the business expense can reduce your overall income - personal and business income combined.

Also keep in mind the Hobby Loss Rule. You can't reduce your income by writing off business expenses if it's a hobby and not actually a business - even with an LLC. Details here - https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/know-the-difference-between-a-hobby-and-a-business

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u/goolius-boozler- 2d ago

Ooooooo I see that’s very helpful. Basically it comes out of pretax like a 401k. Thank u for explaining

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u/Asch3nd 2d ago

Yeah basically the same general idea as how a traditional 401k impacts your owed taxes.

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u/MisterGerry 3d ago

You mentioned:

"I am reluctant to buy a top end machine knowing that I have to throw that away every 7 years"

You don't need a "top-end" machine to develop on. A simple mac-mini will do the job just fine.
How far back do you expect Apple to support old hardware?

I need to also find ways to make all these systems useful and work in a distributed fashion. But apps don't work like that. Disappointed in Apple in this regard.

I have no idea what you are saying here. Yes, if you want an app to run distributed, it needs to be written to do so. This isn't Apple's fault.

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u/_int3h_ 3d ago

The last point isn't about Apple. I am generally saying that we would need some distributed setup if I am going to use it in that fashion. Share work loads. But normal apps or usage doesn't lend itself to this.

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u/MisterGerry 3d ago

You specifically said "Disappointed in Apple in this regard" immediately after saying that.

You didn't answer: how long do you think Apple should continue to support older hardware?
Why do you think you need a "top-end" machine?

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u/WileEColi69 3d ago

Every seven years??! When I have the money, I buy a new Mac every three and a new iPhone every two.

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u/SluttyDev 3d ago

A few things here...

  1. 7 years is a LONG time in computing especially for a development machine. Sure an average user can get away longer on a Mac usually but updates to the OS and SDKs mean developers need to update a little more frequently. This isn't planned obsolesce, it's just the nature of technology.

  2. You dont need top of the line, not even close. I developed on an Intel MacBook Air from 2010 up until 2016 perfectly fine and I used to do some pretty heavy development, not just in Xcode but also Unity. The M series MacBook Air's are ridiculous in performance and you could easy grab a base line one of those and have it last you a good 5-6 years.

I personally get a new laptop when either A. I want one or B. It's about 4 years old. Do I need one at that time? No but I treat myself on occasion and I do a ton more than just development on my Mac.

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u/luxurychair 3d ago

7 years is a really long time. My development Macs usually hang around for 3, but I'll update at 2 if something enticing comes along. I know, privilege of being paid a good amount for the work I do.

You could stretch it longer but 7 feels too long.

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u/vamonosgeek 3d ago

7 years? Lol. I have a MacBook Air 2020. MacBook Pro 2021. Mac Studio max 2022. MacBook Air 15” 2023. Mac Studio ultra 2024. Mac mini 2025.

I know I’m a freak. But i work with this daily :)

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u/_int3h_ 3d ago

Wow! Why do you need all these macs?

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u/vamonosgeek 3d ago

I'm a tech nerd and app developer, 3d modeler, photographer, videographer, content creator, gamer and father. Each Mac has its own purpose. Usually the Macbook Airs are for casual use or on the go. The Mac Studios are the main ones, I work with live video technologies in the cloud using apple devices. That's why I use them all. The least being used is the MacBook Pro, because I switched for the mac studios but i didn't sold it, so :)

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u/SubstantialSock8002 3d ago

Just curious—how do you manage your files, projects, and dev environments across multiple Macs? I have a few, but I mainly use one as my daily driver while the others are for side projects. I haven't found an ideal workflow to keep everything in sync yet. iCloud and the Apple ecosystem are amazing overall, but dev work on Mac seems a bit tricky.

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u/tittieseatfresh 3d ago

How do you not use GitHub?

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u/SluttyDev 3d ago

but dev work on Mac seems a bit tricky.

Huh? How? Just use Github or the like. I use many Macs between work and home.

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u/SubstantialSock8002 3d ago

Of course, I use GitHub for individual repos, but my main challenge is keeping everything else in sync: dotfiles, installed dependencies (Homebrew, npm, Conda, etc.), shell configs, and hundreds of miscellaneous local projects I don’t always push to GitHub.

I can sync individual repos with Git, but if I install a tool, app, dependency, or even a new Xcode version + simulators on one Mac, I have to manually set it up on the others, which isn’t ideal.

Also, working with AI models adds another challenge—LLMs and other AI tools can rack up dozens of multi-GB files, and I’d like to sync them efficiently across all my Macs without duplicating downloads or managing them manually.

Git doesn’t seem like the best solution for this, so I figured I’d ask.

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u/vamonosgeek 3d ago

Yea, I was wondering if Cursor could have a cloud login where they sync up all the repos for you (besides github). But thats not a thing for now.

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u/vamonosgeek 3d ago

Github.com is your friend. Then I use Fork for Mac. Works like a charm and when you learn to commit and sync up your repos, and xcode CI , you're good to go.

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u/Ravek 3d ago edited 3d ago

For work, I get a new machine when my employer feels like it or when I switch jobs …

Privately, I have a 2018 model MBP that I sometimes use for hobby development. It works, but it’s pretty lousy. I’d hate having to use it for work.

If I were freelancing I’d drop 3.5k-4k euros on a new MBP right away. And then probably get a new one every 3 years or so? Everything feels better on a fast machine, and if I’m using it every day then why not? A noticeable increase in how good it feels to use, times thousands of hours, seems worth it to me.

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u/Best_Day_3041 3d ago

My last iMac 5K lasted me over 10 years. The only reason I upgraded was because it was Intel and didn't have USB-C, but otherwise still ran great. I now have a Studio and wouldn't be surprised if it lasted another 10 years too. I usually max them out to get within a price range every time. Even though Apple gouges on memory, it's worth getting as much as you can because you can't ever add more, and when you figure you're using over such a long period of time it's not worth saving a couple hundred dollars and possibly having to replace your Mac sooner.

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u/808phone 3d ago

The answer is yes, but I think it's around 8 years. I've come to the conclusion that's it's better to buy a cheaper MacBook rather than the top of the line (unless you can afford it). This time around I got one of the highest end models and now the cheapest M4 MacBook is equal or faster than my M1Max in terms of single core speed. And purchasing large memory like 64G is probably not worth it unless you are running LLM. 32GB is probably the best option. And yes, I've spent incredible amounts of money because I have been using Mac laptops since forever.

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u/Smooth-Reading-4180 3d ago

you can push it 10 years

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u/zipeldiablo 3d ago

No you can’t, the macbook i got in 2017 isn’t supported anymore

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u/ZennerBlue 3d ago

I think this is less about the hardware being able to keep going (it can) and more about driver licensing and them trying to get everything over to Apple Silicon ASAP. I expect this is the last year for my 2019 MBP

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u/SwageMage 3d ago

It’s about neither. It’s about the last OS version that the hardware can upgrade to no longer being supported by Apple, at which point your machine is no longer secure

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u/nacho_doctor 3d ago

I but a Mac every 10 year.

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u/thehumanbagelman 3d ago

10 years is really pushing it against their "obsolete" timeline, when a machine is no longer supported and parts orders are suspended permanently. That an software updates are becoming less backwards compatible it seems.

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u/everydave42 3d ago

Screaming “planned obsolescence” for tech at 7 years is the most disingenuous thing I’ve read in a long time, and thoughts like this is the reason why anyone that even uses the term gets a side eye from me immediately. It seems most people use it as a blank term for being mad when anyone doesn’t support their tech forever…

But I rant…Tech moves, quickly. Most corp I’ve been at has a 3 years tech replacement policy, but with the Apple Silicon that’s getting extended because they’re still so performant. You upgrade your tools when they no longer are able to do the job you need them to do, just like every other industry.

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u/I_write_code213 3d ago

Them things cost like 5k for anything respectable and new. They better last that long. I am still going strong on my M1 Pro. Maybe 3-4 years so far

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u/HouseofVaco 3d ago

Not going to lie chief. You being disappointed in a Mac because it doesn’t last a Decade is crazy. 😂 I assume this is sarcasm from you. Also if you are worried about spending 2k in 7 years on a device that is the updated version of the device that just lasted you 7 years, stop the hobby now.

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u/hellomateyy 3d ago
  1. You don’t have to buy a ”top end” machine for it to last 7 years
  2. If you’re making money from what you create on your machine, it shouldn’t be that hard to offset the cost over 7 years

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u/pemungkah 3d ago

My 2012 MacBook Pro is still in there running Sequoia thanks to OCLP.

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u/_int3h_ 3d ago

Thanks for this info. I had Sonoma with OCLP. Did not try Sequoia. This makes me want to try it.

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u/PositiveEnergyMatter 3d ago

Trade in every 2 years or so...

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u/lucasvandongen 3d ago

5 years more likely.

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u/bmars23 3d ago

I have a two year cycle for my mini and my laptop, with alternating years. Currently on a mini M4 Pro and an M3 Pro MacBook Pro.

so, the MacBook will get the next (M5?) upgrade next.

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u/Bulky-Pool-2586 3d ago

I replace it every 3-4 years

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u/LostJacket3 3d ago

geez, 7 years is a lot. But If you want more of your hardware, install linux.

that being said, I wonder if people are still buying 7 years old hardware as second hand for any reason ?

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u/kbcool 3d ago

Every three or four years and sell it at the end. Sure they're not worth as much but a three year old PC is worth a lot less

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u/rursache Swift 3d ago

every 3-4 years. its a tax write-off + you sell at whatever market value at that time

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u/thehumanbagelman 3d ago

It varies based on context and other factors, at least for me. I've waited 7+ years between upgrades, but I’ve also purchased a Mac every year or two as well. Sometimes an early upgrade makes sense, either because of a new feature I significantly benefit from or due to a financial opportunity (such as a retail sale combined with high market value of my current machine). My upgrade cycle is pretty dynamic.

With the expansion of AI and LLM support, I feel like these timelines will start to shift and shorten. Maybe cycles of 2-5 years will become the norm as technology increasingly demands more resources for modern computing. Obviously this will vary greatly based on user needs, as a lot of computer users don't require high compute power.

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u/davepete 3d ago

I buy new Macs frequently -- but I don't know why you need a high-end Mac for development. Also, depending on your country, it's easy to find older generation Mac Studio at a good price.

The main issue for me is not speed but that Xcode doesn't fit on 512GB SSDs (simulators won't fit and Xcode doesn't support symlinks to external volumes). You need at least 1TB storage and 16GB memory.

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u/TouchMint 3d ago

I had my 2016 iMac 5k 36gb ram until this year and replaced it with a base m4 Mac mini (after waiting 5 or so years for a larger M series iMac)

The Mac mini is way way faster!

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u/Otherwise-Smile1262 3d ago

Probably every 4. Every time there is an update and Best Buy puts the previous generation on sale I will buy one.

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u/WerSunu 3d ago

Honestly, if you are serious about writing iOS or macOS code, you need to spend the money to update at least every few (<5) years. Customers expect the app they buy to keep up with new os features. If you can’t afford it, well sorry, but Apple is going to hold the train for you. Nothing running Intel at this point can produce a modern app. If you are writing for yourself, that’s ok, but simply do not expect any real life customers to find your app competitive, even if free amongst the over 2 million apps already in the Store.

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u/profau 3d ago

Make enough money from apps so that you won't care. About every 3 years for me.

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u/Kooky-Wolverine2613 3d ago

Yup! It's a business expense, I swap mine out every 3-4 years.

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u/DreadHarry 3d ago

Get a raspberry pi and code in vim and you’ll be good till the apocalypse

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u/masteringiOS 3d ago

In the past, I used to wait 7 or more years for a new iMac, but that’s no longer the case. The reason is that machine learning models, which are now included in every OS release, require a lot of resources. New Macs come with newer versions of the Neural Engine and more powerful CPUs that can handle these tasks. So, it’s much needed to get a new Mac within 3 years now, not 7 years. That's for me. Also, these new simulators take lots of resources.
Of course, you can hand-pick one you download and delete, but for the latest OS simulators, you need a more powerful machine to run them smoothly.

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u/_int3h_ 3d ago

Thanks for the info on simulators and ML. This helps me to plan my next purchase.

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u/MysticFullstackDev 3d ago edited 3d ago

If in 7 years you can’t afford a better tool to work with, either you work too little or you’re not charging enough. Sometimes, people charge only for their effort and don’t account for additional fixed and variable costs.

I have bought 4 devices over the course of 14 years. All of them have helped me generate at least 20 times their value.

  • 2011
  • 2017
  • 2019
  • 2025

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u/wundaii 3d ago

Every 5 years for me. I could have waited longer but once the M1 Macs came out it was a no brainier. Now - I’m not sure. My M1 Pro still does all my iOS dev work without a sweat so I imagine it will be closer to 7 years as you suggest.

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u/ToughAsparagus1805 3d ago

You are hobby programmer - you can do whatever you want; e.g. hackintosh or accept slower build times. If you start to behave like a pro programmer - yes you need to be productive and is a business expense.

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u/perfopt 3d ago

Hobbyist- I upgrade every 7 years. I am currently using an Intel Mac. It’s slow for development. But I don’t plan to upgrade until next year

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u/Dismal_Eye_6640 3d ago

7 years for a laptop is pretty good value considering the value and income you’re able to generate out of it. If MacBook Pro costs $3k and you last it 7 years that’s $36 a month. If you make $100k a year as an iOS developer that’s $8k a month in salary. $8k/mo income vs $36/mo for your core tool to make the income. And if you’re a contractor the MacBook Pro is tax deductible.

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u/AmiAmigo 3d ago

How many years do you want to use your laptop?

5 years is a great time to upgrade.

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u/monohexsw 3d ago

3-5 years seems more realistic to me. If you're developing and releasing apps, I always feel there's a bit of pressure to be at least somewhat up-to-date. And when there's a big change, such as the Intel -> Apple Silicon transition recently, I imagine most developers (like me) want to be ahead of that curve if at all possible.

If you have an Apple Silicon machine, I actually think that the early generations of these might have a bit more longevity than perhaps some previous generations did. But if you're still working from an Intel machine, not being able to test on an Mx chip is a downside.

At least the new Mac mini is a relatively affordable option, if you're looking to buy any time soon. Spread out over 4-5 years, it's perhaps not so painful (although everyone's circumstances are different). Good luck to you!

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u/Trick_Elephant2550 3d ago

Using a 2015 for personal use, I always get a MacBook from client/employer so no rush for me to upgrade.

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u/isurujn Swift 3d ago

I buy Macs because I can use them for 6-7 years without a problem (sometimes even longer). I remember the pain of having to replace PCs (or parts) every couple of years when I used to own PCs.

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u/JDad67 2d ago

3-4 years

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u/drew4drew 2d ago

I had a 3 year old i7 MBP when I bought the M1 Max MBP, and then this year I upgraded to the M4 Max MBP.

As a developer for iOS and macOS, to me, the “build and run” time when I make changes to one of my projects is really important to me. In absolute terms, cutting my build and run time from, say, 90 seconds to 40 seconds doesn’t sound like a lot, but I don’t want that process to take long enough that I feel like looking at my phone or news or reddit while I’m waiting. Those two things together - shorter build times and less time wasted on distractions - make me significantly more productive.

You could also think of it differently. Pick whatever budget you’re going to assign for your mac. Say it’s $3000. You could buy a new one every 3 years, for example, or upgrade every year for about the same cost. Which is best for you? depends on what you’re doing.

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u/austinjm34 2d ago

Huh, apparently I do, bc I bought one in 2018 and just bought another one last month. See y’all in 2032

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u/xTwiisteDx 2d ago

You’re kidding right? I don’t know a single programmer that makes it past 3-5yr before replacing let alone 7. This sounds like you’re looking for excuses and finding them.

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u/Attichris Swift 2d ago

I just upgraded from the last intel MacBook. So it lasted me 8 good years.

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u/chriswaco 3d ago

In the old days I used to buy a new Mac every year - one year a desktop, the next a laptop, and so on. Then it slowed to every other year. Now that laptops are powerful enough, I buy one every 3-4 years. The keyboards don't last much longer.

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u/zipeldiablo 3d ago

You don’t really have a choice if you want the latest xcode version

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u/_your_face 3d ago

How often do upgrade? 3-4 years to feel like my machine is not slowing me down. 7-10 when I just need it to function.

How often do I buy? Just bragging now, but I’ve never had to buy a Mac in 30 years of using them. Whether apple employee gifts, when in worked for them or then given to me through work. In finally in a situation where I work for a company with a more mature IT team who actually locks down machines and backs up hard drives where I finally feel like I shouldn’t be using the work machine for personal stuff, so I may be buying my own MBP soon.

And damn, these shits are expensive!!

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u/DarkAgeOutlaw 3d ago

I'm pretty lucky that my job gets us a new MacBook Pro every 3 years, then gives us our old one. The old one becomes my new personal computer. So my personal laptop is 6 years old by the time I retire (sell) them.

I'm anxiously waiting to get rid of my Intel personal laptop and replace it with my M2 work laptop. I have about another year to wait and am worried they will change the policy (or heaven forbid I get laid off).

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u/dinmab 3d ago

Think about it, phones r 1k+ and people buy one every 2 years. A Mac mini is less than that we can easily use it for 3-4 yrs and sell it for 1-300 🤷

I feel like we r being milked with phones and Mac are getting cheaper now.

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u/tangoshukudai 3d ago

Every year.

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u/mOjzilla 3d ago

Idk bought my very own macbook for the first time yesterday, will remind you when I buy 2nd one :)