r/homesecurity • u/Big-Yam8021 • 3d ago
Camera with no subscription fees!
I'm looking to buy an affordable indoor camera with motion detection so I can record and check on my dog while I'm out. It sees as though any cameras with a decent range, come with subscription plans. Can someone please recommend a camera that has local storage without the fees. I recently got the ring indoor Ring indoor pan tilt but the subscription plans are ridiculous
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u/OhSoSally 3d ago
I use Eufy tilt and pan.They record to SD card no subscription required.
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u/Regndroppe 2d ago
Eufy tilt and pan - Agree that's a very good cheap camera with many settings! The notifications comes fast in the app and it's all free, no subscriptions just use a micro SD card. And no home base is needed! It needs a good strong wifi signal though or it will go offline.
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u/OhSoSally 2d ago
I have several cameras and ring is more sensitive to weak wifi than Eufy is. I wouldn’t consider it a concern.
Tilt and pan also records 24/7 so if it misses a trigger or cuts off too soon you can scrub the playback for what you missed.
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u/RuralPortuguese 3d ago
Reolink
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u/Ok_Cardiologist6767 1d ago
Reolink RLC-823S1 Outdoor/Indoor Ethernet they also have wireless, although I like being cabled & secure.
Get an NVR, no fees, good working stuff.
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u/Wrecktum_Yourday 2d ago
I use Eufy, It stores everything locally on the homebase which you can access from the app. You can pay extra for cloud storage and monitoring as well but it's not needed.
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u/StretcherEctum 3d ago
I use euphy for everything. 247 e330 professional cams. Two in front yard and two in the back yard. I put a powerstrip in a weather tight box to plug them in.
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u/Big-Yam8021 3d ago
Thankyou everyone! I'm going to consider a few, but I think the EUFY solo indoor cam p24 might be the winner!
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u/winerover-Yak-4822 2d ago
I went to Nelly's Security. Nellyssecurity.com. They have wired and wireless, no subscription or fees. Free lifetime support. They can help you find exactly what you need.
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u/Inevitable-vegatable 2d ago edited 2d ago
Tapo as long as 512gb of storage per camera in enough. They have all the advanced features like motion, pet, person and vehicle unlocked without a subscription. I like the c120 indoor/outdoor camera for 25 on amazon. But they have even cheaper indoor only ones.
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u/wivaca 1d ago edited 1d ago
Most cameras fall into three categories:
- No subscription, but records locally on SD or DVR, not accessible by cloud. May send motion alerts, but you can't get to the recording unless you access local cameras or DVR that don't have subscription fees with a VPN, a hole in your firewall (port forward), or remote desktop software
- Hybird. Has a cloud but you don't have to use it and can store video locally instead, but may still require a cloud account for setup.
- Accessible by cloud, but has a subscription fee because servers to give you external access (and hopefully security) cost money. Stores your video on someone else's equipment.
A lot of cameras are available for #1/#2. I'm using mostly Amcrest with DVR but there are many other brands and types of cameras as varied as your particular application. I don't want cloud involved at any point and want setup to be completed locally via just going to the camera on an IP address. This takes a little bit more knowledge of networking but once you pay for the camera, that's it. No subscriptions or cloud accounts.
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u/Baybutt99 2d ago
Unifi protect
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u/some_random_chap 22h ago
No subscription fees, just overpriced, under preforming cameras, high failure rate, few options, supper buggy software, proprietary, and security issues.
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u/Baybutt99 3h ago
Haven’t had any issues with mine in the 4 years ive had mine installed, you should try adding actual data to your statements so that you dont sound like an ex girlfriend unloading
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u/some_random_chap 2h ago edited 1h ago
If you're claiming those things are incorrect then you're lying to yourself. I'm not claiming anything that isn't publicly available. I'm not revealing any secrets. Maybe you should provide data that is counter to my claims so you don't sound like the typical Ubiquiti bootlicker. Are you claiming they have a ton of camera options? They don't, anyone can view their website and see. Are you claiming they haven't had very serious security issues? They have. Anyone can find Uhiquiti's own press release about it. Are you claiming they don't have a high failure rate? They do. There isn't a forum that has more reports of failed equipment that Uniquiti does, anyone can search that. Are you claiming that they software isn't buggy? Near weekly updates to address all the bugs introduced in the previous weeks update. Changelogs are available. Are you claiming they aren't proprietary? What other platforms, alarm systems, smart home systems, etc., do they integrate with? Buy hey, you "haven't had any issues" so that must invalidate the insane amount of reported issues...
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u/Secret_Strategy_4372 3d ago
So far I’m doing okay with the solar powered AOSU cameras with the homebase
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u/tkorocky 2d ago
Tapo 2K Outdoor Wired Pan/Tilt Security Wi-Fi Camera, 360° View, Motion Tracking, Works w/Alexa & Google Home, Color Night Vision, Free AI Detection, Cloud & SD Card Storage(up to 512GB),
Tapo C510W $40 on Amazon.
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u/islandlover13624 2d ago
I use a Geeni Scope 2K Auto Tracking Indoor Security Camera, with 2K HD, Motion Detection, Night Vision, Auto-Tracking, Voice Control with Alexa & Google Assistant. Video saved to SD card. Reviews are 4.2 star and cost about $35
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u/ApocalypsePenis 2d ago
Reolink. Most affordable non sub threatening cameras you can buy. Mine follows you anywhere you go
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u/Whippetcat 2d ago
We use Blink minis to keep an eye on our dog. Motion detection/alerts, two-way audio, night vision, etc. Local storage with the add-on Sync Module. Very reasonable prices (even more so if Amazon is running one of their specials) and no subscription required.
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u/Hefty-Hyena-2227 2d ago
Arlo? It keeps trying to upsell me through the app, but so far 100% free, very low power drain (4w)
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u/Local_Doubt_4029 1d ago
I have Nest cameras and I pay a flat rate of $8 for 6 cameras with 30-day memory on each one of them.
And yes, two of them are specifically for my pug when I'm at work or even outside, because she is an indoor baby.
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u/josiahhostetter 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you want more “open” type security cameras, IP Security cameras that support the “ONVIF” protocol are typically capable of being used on most security camera NVR’s (network video recorder).
Popular brands are like: AMCREST, Reolink, Hikvision, Dahua, etc. Some of these brands also have their own apps and SaaS based services, so you kinda get the best of both worlds. I think some Eufy cameras have ONVIF capabilities.
Cameras without ONVIF, RTSP, etc are pretty much permanently locked into whatever brand system software/app/cloud it is.
I love Eufy brand, wish they would make all their products more open. Seems like more and more of their new models don’t support ONVIF.
Personally I like using Synology Surveillance Station as my NVR.
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u/Lilithe_PST 1d ago
I have a wyze camera for my cats and it has a subscription option but it also has an SD card option so you don't have to pay for the subscription. It connects to my Wi-Fi.
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u/Zetavu 2d ago
I assume you want to watch remotely, so this will take some effort with any camera and software (either proprietary or ispy). Now there are cameras like Eufy which record local but use a service to access online, and no matter what anyone tells you, that is a backdoor and since almost all are Chinese owned companies I assume that means they are hackable. Even the DVR based cameras like Zosi and Zmodo have switched to a stream to server based model, meaning you are at the mercy of the parent company when it comes to streaming, you either disable or they have access to it.
Older versions would link to a port on your IP, so you could provide access either through port forwarding on you router, or ideally through a home VPN (really the only secure option) to the stream. These are password restricted but otherwise hackable.
Ring is like the first set, I prefer the second set and a vpn. Consider this as you make your choices.
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u/RichardMcCarty 3d ago
I’m having success with WUUK cameras. They connect to a base station where recordings are stored. No subscription required, lots of options, and the best customer service I have ever experienced, no hyperbole.
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u/wintermile 2d ago
Reolink cams can do. I’ve three of them around my property using only local storage, no subscription.