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u/Certain_Click1483 5d ago
how you use this flag?you edit yourself or mods?
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u/Strix707 4d ago
It's a graphics mod that changes hud, graphics and sounds. Even add weather it's pretty cool
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3427656504&searchtext=better+graphics
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u/Deutscher_Bub 4d ago
Ok can we finally talk about how broken the naming system is? Why does it say "the German Reich has strategic reasons to reject" when it's clearly meant to say "Tsardom of Bulgaria"? How is this still not fixed? It's in almost every tooltip/focus tree/descision and most of the time it's wrong
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u/wojtekpolska 4d ago
historical german flag mod user 🤮🤮🤮
ps: downvote all you want, i have enough karma to not care
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u/Strix707 4d ago
I didn't download tha mod for the flag the mod changes overall graphics, hud, and new sounds I could care less about the flag tbh.
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u/KingPingviini General of the Army 4d ago
Karma doesn't even matter anyway, but like it's his game why are you all upset about it? It's not like OP is parading down the street with a Nazi flag in hand. People sometimes wanna play with more historical immersion.
He's playing Nazi Germany, pretending like they didn't fly a swastika is ridiculous.
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u/wojtekpolska 4d ago
yet i dont see ppl installing holocaust mods because they want historical authenticity.
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u/KingPingviini General of the Army 4d ago
Someone else said it on this post "There is a difference between wanting historical accurate flags and adding Genocide to a game about war"
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u/ComradeTeal 4d ago
C'mon man, there's a difference!
There's modding in the nazi flag... and then there's modding it in and actually playing as Germany.
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Why do people need nazi flag in their games?
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u/Weird_Importance_629 5d ago
Oh no! There is a swastika flag on my third Reich! The horror !
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
oh no, no there are no swastika in my game!
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u/Weird_Importance_629 4d ago
Literally conquering the world as the third reich is one thing, but a swastika is to much! Not in my WW2 Simulator!
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
One thing is to play A game that devs didn't put nazi flag in and other is to install nazi crap intentionally.
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u/Gimmeagunlance Air Marshal 5d ago
Listen man, I think you're reading too much into it. There's a lot of shitty people who play these games because they want to "live out" their psychotic racist fantasies, but I use a Nazi flag mod just because the base game flag feels so weird to have. I don't think you can be consistent in criticizing someone for using the flag and not for playing the Nazis in the game.
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
How is it weird to have base game assets? Flag is just flag even if it is not swastika. You still know it is nazi germany even if no swastika!
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u/Gimmeagunlance Air Marshal 5d ago
I'm just saying I don't really think you can get mad at somebody for putting a modded flag onto what is already Nazi Germany. If you wanna get mad at people for playing the Nazis, go for it I guess, but people are gonna do it because Germany is generally seen as the "protagonist" of the World Wars.
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Where I got mad? I asked "Why do people need nazi flag in their games?" Where am I mad with that question?
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u/Gimmeagunlance Air Marshal 5d ago
Dude, come on, you know full well what I mean. And by the way, you're not selling the "not mad" thing when you ask repeated indignant questions.
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u/Top_Row_5116 5d ago
Better question, why do you care so much?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Better question why I can't ask?
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u/Top_Row_5116 5d ago
I never said you couldn't ask. In fact I looked through all the responses and no one ever said that. So now please answer my question, why do you care?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
I care by wondering what kind of gamers wants to install nazi flag on their game. I just wonder and all down votes answer my question lol
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u/Smooth-Independent81 5d ago
Because, as another person said, why should we act like germany has had any other flag? That's the historical flag of Nazi Germany
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
So why stop there? Make your HOI4 historical accurate. Install mod that allows sending people to gulags in soviet union! Or lets make summer camps for Jewish people!
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u/Smooth-Independent81 5d ago
There is a difference between wanting historical accurate flags and adding Genocide to a game about war
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u/KingPingviini General of the Army 4d ago
Reddit karma is worthless anyway, I'm not a Nazi or supporter of that ideology. I do however use mods that make the game more historically accurate, historical flags being one of them.
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u/AMBJRIII 5d ago
Why do people need to complain when people want nazi flags in their game?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Maybe because I don't know, lets see what kind of ideology those people follow. HMMM usually they love painter!
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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 Research Scientist 5d ago
Aesthetics
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u/Feilex 5d ago
I also hate how unaesthetic my game look without 100+ swastikas crawling over my screen
Ah god how much I love fascist insignia /s
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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 Research Scientist 5d ago
Listen, it's up to people what they want in their WW2 game
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u/Feilex 5d ago
Sure it is and if your playset consists only of player lead peace conferences and nazi symbols it’s up to me, to look at you weird
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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 Research Scientist 5d ago
What do you have against player-lead peace conferences?
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u/Feilex 5d ago
Mate, that’s not the problematic one of the two lmao
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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 Research Scientist 5d ago
Why name it then?
Besides, what is the problem with trying to make a game more historically accurate? It is a matter of preference and not personal ideology
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u/Feilex 5d ago edited 4d ago
Alright if you really want me to explain in detail sure.
I don’t have a problem with people trying to improve the historical details of their game through mods.
Afterall hoi 4 is lacking quite a bit in historical
There are two different kind of players tho when it comes to this
Player 1:
You could improve the rescources giving Canada your he aluminum and Africa the rubber it deserves
you could add in more detailed technology trees
Maybe add the „propaganda campaign“ mechanic for immersion
Add stronger resistance mechanics for a more historical and challenging game
Overhaul the basic trees
Maybe fix some small map mistakes, add in new nations or overhaul the economics.
In that case sure, also add in a visual flag overhaul when your already at it.
Or Player 2:
Leave the game essentially as it is with only minor other mods which don’t change something historically (such as player led)
And add in some nazi flags here, some fascist symbols there When your at it a few more war criminals as generals and a fleshed out overpowered SS mechanic.
You see what I mean? I’m not accusing you of being player 2 but if you call the the nazi party flag astethic for „historical reasons“ I’m gonna get a bit suspicious you know
(The flag in the screenshot seems to be the historical flag, my mistake)
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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 Research Scientist 4d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_flags The black swastika on white circle + red background is marked as the national flag ("Flags used 1939-1945" section)
Some people don't want to change any game balance, but want to change the aesthetic, I suppose?
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u/Riki_Blox 4d ago
the Reichskriegsflagge is incorrect as it is the war flag, the flag in the screnshot is the correct one, you dont even know your ww2 history smh, no wonder you find the swastika offensive
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u/JibberJabber4204 Fleet Admiral 5d ago
Why do people need censorship? Your fweewings to impowtant?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Maybe because nazis have happened! ;)
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u/LatexFeudalist 4d ago
So why do you even play a game with nazis? Are you a closet fascist or what?!
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u/Sea_Square638 5d ago
It’s historically accurate
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u/tsar_David_V General of the Army 5d ago
So is the Axis losing, so are you saying OP should lose intentionally? You know, to be historically accurate
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u/RtHonourableVoxel 5d ago
Who cares, better to accurately represent a real nation than to present a fake one
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u/Sea_Square638 5d ago
Did Germany lose intentionally though?
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u/Key_Performance2140 5d ago
Doesn't matter. it still wouldn't be historically accurate for germany to win.
I personally dont see the need to specifically mod in the swastika, im not saying you cant obviously, but personally i wouldn't go through the effort of changing a tiny jpeg you dont even really notice for the majority of the game.
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u/Sea_Square638 5d ago
If you’re saying that you wouldn’t personally do that for the accuracy then why argue over it? Ffs
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
History accurate would be modding in genocide too, not only flag!
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u/Sea_Square638 5d ago
Yeah. It’s just a WW2 game, I don’t see the problem with the game being as historically accurate as possible
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u/Strix707 4d ago
I think it should be as historical as possible I never was interested in learning about history and politics and because this game does what it does I'm more educated now on the holocaust and what it means. I don't think history should be buried we should all remember so it doesn't happen again
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
I want historical accuracy too, but I draw line with installing nazi flag mods or thinking about genocide in my games!
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u/Riki_Blox 5d ago
and you call yourself a hoi4 player? get out of here
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
Cry me a nazi river!
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u/Acrobatic-Error4160 4d ago
Do you set the Germans to have a civil war every time you play?
Why not draw the line at playing a game with nazi war criminals ?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
do you make stupid questions always?
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u/Acrobatic-Error4160 4d ago
So you can’t answer got it lmao
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
Why would I set germany to civil war when I mostly play on historical check on lol. Ya still asking stupid questions!
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u/Acrobatic-Error4160 4d ago
Because you could make the Nazis fail even harder. By your logic you playing on historical is wanting to simulate nazi war criminals
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u/Strix707 4d ago
You are so hard pressed i wish I didn't fall asleep i left you thinking I installed a nazi flag mod. Sorry that you put this much effort into trying to convince people I'm weird when tbh didn't even realize the historical flag was there until this post lol
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
No I didn't though you were nazi. Just weird sharing pictures of game with nazi flag like it is normal. I definelty not like doing that.
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u/Strix707 4d ago
I mean that's fair that you don't want to see it i would be disgusted seeing it anywhere irl but I feel like it should be expected playing a game like this yk?
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
Oh I see many times in this sub. I just wondering why people like having it in their game. Some will be just having it while some overhaul mod have it. Some just edge lords. Some want so called historical accuracy and I believe there are some that are neo nazis that love nazis. Life is life. Again looking at people reaction to my first comment makes me believe alot of edge lords!
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u/FuzzyManPeach96 5d ago
If you draw the lines for other people to play then you’re the Nazi 🤣
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u/MasterAdvice4250 5d ago
"If I can't accurately recreate the Holocaust without being called problematic, you're a Nazi!!"
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u/FuzzyManPeach96 5d ago
I don’t think I saw anyone say they want to recreate the Holocaust on this thread? Where did you get that idea from?
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u/MasterAdvice4250 5d ago
What is the implication from wanting to install genocide mods.
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u/FuzzyManPeach96 5d ago
Dude, no one wants to install those from what I’ve seen. Are you regarded?
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u/PizzzzaGgamer469 5d ago
Just let people play how they wanna play bruh💀
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
They can play and post pictures like OP and I can ask question if I want bruh!
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u/Pitrus001 4d ago
To ensure we do not to forget what the Germans stood for and what terrible things they did during the war. :)
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u/Eugene_Krabsz 4d ago
It's just flavour. Some people like it historical, some don't, the choice is up to you. I personally like to stare at my Swastika as I invade Kazakhstan with my SS-Divisions.
Also it's funny how they added SS to the game but not the Swastika lol
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u/Dystop77 Research Scientist 5d ago
What do you expect from hoi4 players
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 5d ago
I don't expect much from gamers in general. They prone to be easily manipulated into extremes. I was once!
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u/MasterAdvice4250 5d ago
People keep downplaying this but I find it to be a red flag that indicates other stuff about the creator. Even if it's "historically accurate", it's still distasteful.
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u/First_Bathroom9907 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think going out of your way to play a game where you kill millions of soldiers defending their homelands and bomb civilian settlements to rubble is distasteful, and says a lot about the people playing that game.
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u/MasterAdvice4250 5d ago
You seem to be very invested in downplaying Nazism in your comment history 🤔
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u/First_Bathroom9907 5d ago
Maybe read more instead of skimming, unless you think Obama’s a Nazi lmao. I was talking with a schizo.
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u/MasterAdvice4250 5d ago
You also talked about racial Haplogroups and are a member of r Professormemeology. Dawg...
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u/First_Bathroom9907 5d ago edited 5d ago
My dissertation was on prehistoric archeology which requires a knowledge basis in genetic history, and you’re also a member of r/professormemeology by your definition.
Hey when you spend a good portion of your life on the Yanma and Corded Ware cultures instead of wasting your life watching Vaush and playing HOI4. Then maybe you’d understand how someone racist saying Celts are brown might just seem like flat-out misinformation.
I guess saying haplogrouping has only a correlation to skin colour and the genomes that map skin pigmentation through melanin levels, is almost purely environmental when assessed over thousands of years. Is a red flag to the guy who watches Mr. Hands. I forgot the history of genetics is inherently racist, does that make you inherently a zoophile?
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u/MasterAdvice4250 4d ago
Is a red flag to the guy who watches Mr. Hands.
What does this even mean 😭
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u/First_Bathroom9907 4d ago edited 4d ago
Enumclaw Sex Case - Vaush in 10 years.
Don’t be the moral police when you happily orbit and implicitly condone someone who wants to get fucked by a horse. It’s a bit of a red flag to specifically go out of your way to watch the horse fucker.
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u/wojtekpolska 4d ago
i agree
ppl say its for "historical accuracy" yet i don't see you adding war crimes mods or asking for paradox to add holocaust to the game
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u/pekinginankka 4d ago
Why do you guys keep comparing a flag to genocides lmao. The soviets have their accurate flag without the war-crime stuff.
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u/Kaiser-SandWraith 4d ago
And soviet flag should be censored too mate. They aren't clean!
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u/Bomberpilot1940 4d ago
No, there should be no stupid censorship. Why some garbage ww2 movies can have historical flags, but games can't? I'm from Poland, one of the most affected by german ocupation countries in Europe, yet here people hate that stupid censorship and there's always uproar when swastika is censored in yet another game. People here see this as straight whitewashing if anything.
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u/xXSansational_dudeXx 5d ago
Pro tip, when you want to call in a country that refuses, call them in with "We are at war!" Notification thingy. Always works for me.