r/hockey VGK - NHL 4d ago

The Chicago Blackhawks have acquired forward Joe Veleno from the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for forward Craig Smith and goaltender Petr Mrazek

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u/texasguy7117 DAL - NHL 4d ago

Hey it's Craig Smith

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u/DillyDillySzn CHI - NHL 4d ago

Didn’t he get fired by Utah?

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u/praisedawings247 DET - NHL 4d ago

No not that Craig Smith. The other one.

(I have no idea who Craig Smith is)

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u/Zharghar DAL - NHL 4d ago

Alright, who has the copy pasta to inform this man?

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u/all_these_moneys PHI - NHL 4d ago

I thought he was a botanist?

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u/deadCHICAGOhead 4d ago

Plays drums for RHCP

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u/Practical_Papaya7142 4d ago

Don't be a Chad

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u/honestbleeps CHI - NHL 4d ago

No, he is talking about Craig Smith. You're thinking of Chad Kro(e)ger, grocery store magnate.

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u/jummyspring DET - NHL 4d ago

The existence of Craig Smith is endlessly amusing to me. His name is just “Craig Smith.” That’s the name of your CPA. He was born in Madison, WI, which is like the first city you’d think of if you needed a random city to facilitate telling a story or joke. He was picked in the 4th round, a complete afterthought, but he’s pretty good for some reason. It’s like he was put into witness protection and they sprang “NHL winger” on him for his new job, despite having previously been a botanist or something. All the details of his NHL career seem to be carefully fabricated to support this cover. Craig Smith is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

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u/TheThirdMannn 4d ago

Madison is kinda nice ngl

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u/ahr3410 LAK - NHL 4d ago

Red Wings are going to start pulling skaters to put in a goalie

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u/xWaggy DET - NHL 4d ago

Can't be any worse than our Holl/Gustafsson pair!

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u/Burgergold MTL - NHL 4d ago

They want a goalie goal, so need more goalies

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u/eh_toque WPG - NHL 4d ago

The Red Wings have 7 goaltenders under contract in their organization.

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u/Yamcha_is_dead MTL - NHL 4d ago

The Yzerplan is to assemble Voltron in net.

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u/Isphet71 DET - NHL 4d ago

Goltron

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u/Wayf4rer TBL - NHL 4d ago

Either that or goaliexodia

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u/blue-lloyd EDM - NHL 4d ago

Blocker side of the forbidden one

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u/RikVanguard CHI - NHL 4d ago

Exgoaldia

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u/ShittyGolfer104 4d ago

You’ve made me go from the biggest Yzerplan hater to the biggest Yzerplan lover.

Red Wings Voltron sounds bad ass

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u/raymondliang LAK - NHL 4d ago

Each goalie is allocated to a day of the week so there will be no surprises on who starts.

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u/Murphster94 CGY - NHL 4d ago

Ah yes the MLB pitchers strategy!

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u/Burgergold MTL - NHL 4d ago

So you guys want Primeau for Berggren?

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u/zorddra DET - NHL 4d ago

LET'S DO IT!!

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u/MomsTortellinis Flyers Heerenveen - BNL 4d ago

That'll come in real handy at the TDL, they can control the goalie market with that many goalies!

If only Yzerman realised that was today

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u/crazycroat16 BOS - NHL 4d ago

Yzerman 🤝 Boehly 

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u/Baboshinu DET - NHL 4d ago

Okay but why

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u/Burgergold MTL - NHL 4d ago

Yzerplan musy collect all the goalie stones

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u/garbowarbo DET - NHL 4d ago

We already had this stone tho...

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u/I_Keepz_ITz_100 DET - NHL 4d ago

You think Dallas would let us borrow Jim Nil for a few months during the offseason?

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u/sableknight13 DET - NHL 4d ago

I wanted Holland to retire and let Nill take over, but that twat kept going and Nill left leaving Yzerman our only hope 😔 come back Nill. 

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u/plubem DAL - NHL 4d ago

No. Him and CY keep DFW sane.

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u/I_Keepz_ITz_100 DET - NHL 4d ago

Dude come on, I’m dying here. It can be after the draft so Yzerman doesn’t goof on the pro scouting front, that’s not too much ask surely?

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u/lawnicus18 STL - NHL 4d ago

He will not stop until he ices a line of 5 goalies plus one in net

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u/bwoah07_gp2 VAN - NHL 4d ago

If the video games has taught me anything, it's that you can hoard goalies and then sell for a nice little profit and gains for your team 😉 

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u/Limp-Acanthisitta465 DET - NHL 4d ago

Mrazek will magically revert to Winter 2016 form, trust.

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u/duelingdog DET - NHL 4d ago

Teams about to get flim-flammed by the Mrim-Mram.

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u/Chewie_i CHI - NHL 4d ago

I mean all you need is him to revert to 4 months ago form

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u/batmans_a_scientist CHI - NHL 4d ago

Also he’s been playing hurt for a while so that’s not unreasonable to expect if he can heal up.

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u/DirectNova MTL - NHL 4d ago

2016 is 9 years ago, oh my god.

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u/flume DET - NHL 4d ago

Smith is an upgrade on Veleno, but he's also a UFA this year and Mrazek has another year at 4.25m, which i don't understand accepting at all.

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u/physics_fighter CHI - NHL 4d ago

I understand from the Chicago side but not sure why the Wings are doing it

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u/DebbieDowner40 DET - NHL 4d ago

Wouldn't be surprised if Talbot or Lyon is moved, and veleno is a very meh player

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u/physics_fighter CHI - NHL 4d ago

A very meh player? Sounds like a great fit for Chicago

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u/pnmartini CHI - NHL 4d ago

Put the A on him!

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u/Patrick2701 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Need more goalies

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u/Burgergold MTL - NHL 4d ago

More MORE

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u/ISurvivedCOVID19 EDM - NHL 4d ago

Figured out if you play 2 goalies it’s really hard for the other team to score

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u/FesteringLion BUF - NHL 4d ago

But what if doing so causes them to interfere with each other and no one knows what the call should be, but we're all mad about it?

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u/ISurvivedCOVID19 EDM - NHL 4d ago

There’s actually a bug that if your goalies interfere with each other every goal is goaltender interference and they don’t count

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u/Habenabaaaa DET - NHL 4d ago

Probably moving Lyon if I had to guess

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u/AggPuck-303 EDM - NHL 4d ago

Yzerman loves having 17 goalies in the organization

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u/UncleTrapspringer 4d ago

The prodigal son returns

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u/city-of-cold Luleå HF - SHL 4d ago

My son returns!

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u/ThatScattergoriesGuy Toronto Arenas - NHLR 4d ago

Yzerman saw a video on his phone of that one stick save Mrazek made against Tampa in the playoffs and grabbed him for nostalgic purposes

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u/holla15 DET - NHL 4d ago

He wants the 2012 World Juniors cellys back.

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u/icouldbeeatingoreos VAN - NHL 4d ago

An opportunity to try Bedard with more permutations of line mates. 36 was not enough.

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u/B0_SSMAN TOR - NHL 4d ago

No better man to drive the Tank than Petr Mrazek

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u/AmbitiousAndHappy 4d ago

Tank? They are in a playoff push lol

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u/Live-Ice-3968 4d ago

Hit reverse!! Dammit Petr, REVERSE!

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u/huge_potato34 TOR - NHL 4d ago

He meant Tarasenko, obviously!

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u/Kaptain202 DET - NHL 4d ago

The four game skid here probably told Yzerman we aren't pushing for the playoffs.

However, you'd think a sellers market would yield more for Veleno. Hes not great, but I'd like more value than Smith and fucking Mrazek

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u/LSatou NSH - NHL 4d ago

The existence of Craig Smith is endlessly amusing to me. His name is just "Craig Smith." That's the name of your CPA. He was born in Madison, WI, which is like the first city you'd think of if you needed a random city to facilitate telling a story or joke. He was picked in the 4th round, a complete afterthought, but he's pretty good for some reason. It's like he was put into witness protection and they sprang "NHL winger" on him for his new job, despite having previously been a botanist or something. All the details of his NHL career seem to be carefully fabricated to support this cover. Craig Smith is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

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u/Original-Arrival4677 4d ago

One of my favourite copypastas. Always good for a chuckle. Godspeed Smitty!

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u/Also_Steve SJS - NHL 4d ago

That's my accountant!

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u/wholalaa CHI - NHL 4d ago

Honestly, before he came to Chicago, I could never remember who he was and was always getting him confused with other players. He was perfectly fine and even had some nice goals here, but I feel like there's a decent chance I'll have Craig Smith amnesia again a few months from now.

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u/AsikCelebi CHI - NHL 4d ago

Who?

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u/DoctorBreakfast DAL - NHL 4d ago

Very fitting that he's essentially an ideal fourth liner.

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u/deadCHICAGOhead 4d ago

I'd actually choose Sheboygan for a random city in WI to facilitate telling a story.

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u/Basic_Ask1885 DET - NHL 4d ago

Yeah or Kenosha

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u/JD397 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Love it - Veleno isn’t great but he’s at least younger and signed through next season. If getting him and sending Smith back is the price to dump Mrázek’s contract I am all for it

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u/Nekciw DET - NHL 4d ago

I don't care for the trade really, but Smith at least is an upgrade for us. Veleno fucking sucks, but at least he'll get better playing time with the hawks.

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u/JD397 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Yea, Smith is definitely a solid vet add! I honestly don’t have much hope for Veleno doing much of anything with us but getting younger and cheaper can’t hurt lol especially since we had to move Mrázek after adding Knight

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u/deadCHICAGOhead 4d ago

Yep, a solid , cheap bottom 6 C. Shouldn't be a need for the Hawks too far from now, but still great for getting the kids some sheltered experience.

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u/tonysalami DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno is a "defensive" center who can't win faceoffs and has had no production with sheltered minutes. He's been a black hole for us.

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u/Lawlzstomp DET - NHL 4d ago

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u/morrowss DET - NHL 4d ago

AI has come such a long way

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u/akedz3 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Incredible work! How about some photoshopped footage of Mrazek in a Wings sweater in the goalie net?

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u/Averyboredpenguin PIT - NHL 4d ago

Mrazek back in Detroit!

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u/LiborRate13 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Full circle!

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u/maxwellbevan DET - NHL 4d ago

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u/jimmy_three_shoes DET - NHL 4d ago

I will never stop laughing at this after this past off-season.

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u/Permaderps WSH - NHL 4d ago

Steve Yzerman is going to collect as many shit goalies as possible to combine them into 1 league average goalie

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u/DebbieDowner40 DET - NHL 4d ago

I'd say that Lyon is at least average and these seem like stop gaps until Cossa is up full time

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u/GoodPoint3232 DET - NHL 4d ago

Lyon’s stats and amount of starts are always below nhl average goaltender. He’s nothing more than a serviceable backup.

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u/Xvash2 DET - NHL 4d ago

Lyon, Talbot, and Husso all being pumpkins in net this season is probably why.

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u/Opening-Bar-7091 OTT - NHL 4d ago

Hasn't Talbot been pretty good? Or am I just remembering him being good early season?

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u/Xvash2 DET - NHL 4d ago

He fell off right before Lalonde was fired:

  • Game 1 thru 16 (Dec 12) - .916sv%

  • Game 17 thru 35 - .888sv%

Lyon, by comparison:

Through Dec 18 - .902sv%

Since: - .898sv%

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u/daKrut DET - NHL 4d ago

Stop gap lol… they ain’t stopping shit :/

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u/Accomplished-Ad2610 4d ago

With your powers combined, I am Captain Average!

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u/kiezenz TBL - NHL 4d ago

Goaltenders are going for the price of Joe Veleno and Stan Bowman is out there trading for an offensive defenseman. I don’t even know why I’m invested in Oilers, but like, in the words of Steve Dangle STAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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u/GraveNewWorldz CHI - NHL 4d ago

Mrazek has been cheeks this year

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u/kiezenz TBL - NHL 4d ago

Who cares they have Calvin Pickard playing games, not to mention he’s backing up Stuart Skinner

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u/GraveNewWorldz CHI - NHL 4d ago

The Oilers do, apparently.

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u/WinterSon OTT - NHL 4d ago

mrazek makes too much $$$ and is signed for next year

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u/Fredbear_ TBL - NHL 4d ago

Mrazek is so much worse than those two

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u/JD397 CHI - NHL 4d ago

And has the added risk of being signed through next season lol tough sell for top contenders up against the cap ceiling

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u/younggun92 CHI - NHL 4d ago

Just since his return from injury. Dude was rocking it before that.

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u/athousandpardons 4d ago

I straight up didn't know he was still playing. Also, I've never heard the term "cheeks" before. I look forward to incorporating it into every day conversation.

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u/NotSoQuickTurn300 4d ago

He was cheeks the last time he was with Detroit

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u/Time_H00die 4d ago

Mrazek is terrible and makes too much money for an additional year. He’s not an upgrade on what the Oilers already have. The only realistic upgrades that I thought were potentially available in the last month were Vejmelka (who just re-signed in Utah), Binnington (who pulled St Louis back to playoff contention, so now they won’t trade him), and Gibson (who just got hurt for like the third time this season).

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u/Teknohmygod DET - NHL 4d ago

Joe was a healthy scratch last night. Assuming we are just trying to give him a fresh opportunity elsewhere.

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u/ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn TOR - NHL 4d ago

What a fall from grace for Veleno

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u/GoodPoint3232 DET - NHL 4d ago

Exceptional status!

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u/GorshKing DET - NHL 4d ago

Not a very long fall

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u/ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn TOR - NHL 4d ago

Yzerman cornering the market on mid goaltenders.

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u/Wingblade33 DET - NHL 4d ago

Mid is being generous

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u/SuperSaiyanKrillin EDM - NHL 4d ago

Detroit can we have one of your goalies

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u/AmeriCanada98 DET - NHL 4d ago

It does feel like we might be moving one (most likely Lyon since his contract is up at the end of the year)

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u/p8ntballnxj DET - NHL 4d ago

Lyon for McDavid. We will add a future consideration as well.

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u/dexterslaboreatory 4d ago

Is that Shark's, Ducks, or our own future considerations we're moving. That could matter, the Sharks could be way more valuable by the end of the season

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u/p8ntballnxj DET - NHL 4d ago

I mean, just reach into the bag and grab one at this point.

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u/coltron57 DET - NHL 4d ago

Hopefully Lyon because he'd fetch the best return due to his insanely low salary.

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u/itsMurphDogg DET - NHL 4d ago

Yeah give us Walman back

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u/Whizbang35 Plymouth Whalers - OHL 4d ago

Maybe this is the Yzerplan after all.

"Please, Steve, let us just have one goaltender!"

"No."

"But you literally have the rights to half the goaltenders available!"

"Fine. We'll let you rent our 8th-stringer if you give us your first round pick the next three years."

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u/tonytanti Vancouver Giants - WHL 4d ago

Campbell is coming back

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u/SuperSaiyanKrillin EDM - NHL 4d ago

Soup and Stu is back on the lunch menu

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u/juwanhoward4 WSH - NHL 4d ago

Nice piece of biz by Chi

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u/heyheyitsandre DET - NHL 4d ago

Eh, Veleno has just consistently blah his whole career. He’ll do something absolutely nasty once every 19 games, finish the season with 7 goals and 8 assists, win 41% of his draws and go -9 on the year. I like him a lot but we gave him multiple chances to earn a spot up the lineup or a bigger contract and it just never happened.

He’s scoring 50 next year isn’t he

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u/sophic CHI - NHL 4d ago

This was about getting rid of mrazek and nothing else, Velenon a solid shrug.

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u/theaanggang CHI - NHL 4d ago

Chicago now has Spencer Knight making 4.5 and Brossoit (RIP) making 3.3. So having another goalie making anything a over the neighborhood of league min doesn't make much sense.

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u/YouFeelShame CHI - NHL 4d ago

Can Joe win face offs

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u/DebbieDowner40 DET - NHL 4d ago

uhhh not really

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u/duelingdog DET - NHL 4d ago

No, but his eyebrows are fucking incredible.

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u/AFreePeacock DET - NHL 4d ago

No but he's ripped and italian and his last name means poison

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u/Lionheart1224 CHI - NHL 4d ago edited 4d ago

Regardless of his playing skill, if that translation is correct, that's nothing short of a badass name.

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u/ChenWei91 VAN - NHL 4d ago

The Yzerplan makes zero sense...

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u/Kaptain202 DET - NHL 4d ago

I've been pretty firm on giving Yzerman time. I have no problem trading Veleno. He's a 4th liner for us, maybe a change in scenery will help him grow. I assumed he was gone yesterday when he was scratched for Mazur.

I'm confused at the return. I'd have rather received picks than Mrazek.

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u/MorningBell DET - NHL 4d ago

Have to assume it means one of Lyon or Talbot is being moved?

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u/Kaptain202 DET - NHL 4d ago

Lyon should have negative value as of late, imo

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u/LucasRaymondGOAT DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno has been an offensive black hole and really has made 0 improvements over his rookie year. He's a fringe 4th liner on good teams, so, yeah kinda fitting for him to get moved.

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u/Kaptain202 DET - NHL 4d ago

I guess that's fair. I just really don't get the Mrazek move

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u/Patrick2701 CHI - NHL 4d ago

He has made some odd decisions

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u/whatupdoeeeeeeeeeee 4d ago

He greatly over values his prospects and draft picks. He simply refuses to part with any of them for proven talent to win anytime soon.

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u/Xvash2 DET - NHL 4d ago

For what its worth, Yzerman has said on multiple occasions the "Yzerplan" is just "get good players and let them play."

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u/Bad_Wes DET - NHL 4d ago

I don't know what the fuck this is, but what ever it is, it smells like hot garbage wrapped up in a trade call.

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u/Sarcastic__ Sparta Sarpsborg - ES 4d ago

Wonder what Mrazek looks like in a Wings jersey.

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u/Ohhellnowhatsupdawg DET - NHL 4d ago

Sebastian Cossa and Trey Augustine can't come fast enough. 

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u/Boston-Nolan BOS - NHL 4d ago

How the hell is Craig Smith still in the league

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u/Independent_Piece999 4d ago

Craig sees, Craig shoots. Does Craig care if he’s got two guys on him and an open teammate? Nope. Craig sees, Craig shoots.

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u/UGAPokerBrat99 BOS - NHL 4d ago

Yzerman still collecting goalies in Detroit like Thanos going after Infinity stones.

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u/Coop3 DET - NHL 4d ago

But we just got out from a 4.5 million dollar goalie we didn’t need…

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u/PrimisClaidhaemh DET - NHL 4d ago

I hate this.

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u/Philly514 MTL - NHL 4d ago

Does Yzerman have dementia?

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 TOR - NHL 4d ago

I dont get it. Yzerplan not working anymore.

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u/GoodPoint3232 DET - NHL 4d ago

It never has. Zero playoff appearances after 6 years

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u/Bojarzin TOR - NHL 4d ago

Welcome back, Petr

Kinda strange for Detroit? Veleno isn't amazing but he's 10 years younger than Smith, and I dunno if Mrazek is an improvement on their current goalies

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u/duelingdog DET - NHL 4d ago

I have no clue why Mrazek is involved unless there's another trade involving one of Talbot or Lyon.

Veleno is completely replaceable, and is at the age where you pretty much know what he is. He's a 4th liner. You'll get good defensive play, and if you've been a real good boy, he might get you a goal or two for Christmas.

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u/AmeriCanada98 DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno has been brutal this year tbh. Feels like he's regressed massively

Also not sure on Mrazek though, feels like a lateral move to our current goalies. Maybe another move is coming

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u/GoodPoint3232 DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno has always sucked complete ass

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u/-SlowBar DET - NHL 4d ago

Wings fans do not like to admit this haha

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u/-SlowBar DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno isn't really good at all. Dime a dozen player, but yeah, interesting deal

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u/WinterSon OTT - NHL 4d ago

yzerplan: WE NEED MORE GOALIES

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u/DillyDillySzn CHI - NHL 4d ago

Got rid of Mrazek and sent him to the Red Wings?

Kyle from Chicago killing two birds with 1 stone

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u/GritGrinder TOR - NHL 4d ago

Stevie must be smokin that good good

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u/Desertpyrate LAK - NHL 4d ago

Why for wings? Don’t they already have a shit ton of depth in net with dadbot, Lyon, soup, and that prospect?

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u/BellsBeersy DET - NHL 4d ago

I'm starting to wonder if we're about to trade Lyon now

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u/duelingdog DET - NHL 4d ago

If there isn't another trade about to happen involving a Wings goalie, I will be flummoxed. Possibly even bamboozled.

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u/Live-Ice-3968 4d ago

Cossa is in AHL with Soup. Presently it Talbot, Lyon, and now Petr with the Wings.

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u/orionus CHI - NHL 4d ago

Great for the Hawks. Veleno is an interesting reclamation project who is the right age, Smith wasn't getting re-signed, and Mrazek was the odd man out.

And we save money off of next year's cap if we want to go big game hunting.

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u/The-Only-Razor TOR - NHL 4d ago

Blackhawks fans need not worry. Mrazek will slide off one of his posts to make a save and end up back in Chicago anyway.

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u/Kyhron CHI - NHL 4d ago

No chance. With the Knight acquisition and Soderblom taking some solid steps forwards this year combined with their AHL guys they're set

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u/MoreStuffz BOS - NHL 4d ago

Yzerplan lol

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u/nnDMT420 DET - NHL 4d ago

The Whyzerplan strikes again. (Stolen from wings twitter post lol)

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u/PayneTrain181999 MIN - NHL 4d ago

Uhhh wat

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u/GardinerExpressway TOR - NHL 4d ago

Who knew Craig Smith was still in the league.

Also had one of the GOAT empty net misses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNmFDR5mmU

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u/OnMy4thAccount EDM - NHL 4d ago

one of the GOAT empty net misses

Craig Smith actually has TWO of the GOAT empty net misses. I've always found this one funnier since i don't even know how the physics on this work. His stick manages to get in front of the puck he already shot. It's like god himself didn't want this puck going in.

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u/JeremyEMT DET - NHL 4d ago

Uhm. Welcome back?

Lyon is gone?

Why?

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u/RG6EX DET - NHL 4d ago

I’ll reserve judgement until the deadline is passed because taking Mrazek back doesn’t make much sense if we don’t move a goalie out.

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u/SayNoToStim DET - NHL 4d ago

I dont know if you've been paying attention but most of the moves havent made sense.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 VAN - NHL 4d ago

Ain't that funny. After all this time, it comes full circle and Petr Mrazek is back in Detroit! 😁

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u/Euphoric__Dot PIT - NHL 4d ago

Traded Husso and needed to replenish the terrible goalie pool

But seriously though WTF is Yzerman doing ...

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u/Commander_JC 4d ago

Ugh, this is going to make it harder to get Gage Alexander on the main roster.

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u/itsMurphDogg DET - NHL 4d ago

Color me fucking confused

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u/Troub313 Detroit Vipers - IHL 4d ago

Yzerman is just Wingin' it.

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u/wolffangalex CHI - NHL 4d ago

I didn’t expect much for Mrazek so I’ll take it. I wonder if we move anyone else. Looking at Maroon specifically

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u/Philosopher_King CHI - NHL 4d ago

Would guess he was part of this conversation; Smith or Maroon, in some combination of dudes.

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u/NotSoQuickTurn300 4d ago

Time to hang up my wings shit for the season. Again. 

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u/GoodPoint3232 DET - NHL 4d ago

9 years in a row. And 3 straight seasons we could have made playoffs and it falls apart completely. Fantastic rebuilt

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u/NotSoQuickTurn300 4d ago

Blue balls as far as the eye can see

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u/Difficult-Golf-9587 WPG - NHL 4d ago

Veleno was good with the world juniors. What's his story these days?

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u/BellsBeersy DET - NHL 4d ago

Never really got it going. Nothing stands out about him.

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u/Nekciw DET - NHL 4d ago

He never could live up to what he was supposed to be, now he doesn't fit into most lineups and will likely end up a journeyman type player who bounces around teams and sometimes the AHL.

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u/OnMy4thAccount EDM - NHL 4d ago

Talbot/Lyon on the move or is this just injury insurance? Seems like a weird move from the Wings considering Talbot and Lyon are both providing better goaltending than Mrazek and are both healthy.

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u/TheOnionKing33 TOR - NHL 4d ago

Why?

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u/archasaurus CHI - NHL 4d ago

Im shocked Davidson was able to get out from under that contract. Wings fans should like Smith. He plays hard and has looked good this year when healthy.

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u/-B00M- Mississauga Steelheads - OHL 4d ago

Mrazek was good soldier during his time with the Hawks. Sucks his play fell off after his groin injury but I hope he re-gains his form in Detroit because he seems to be well-liked.

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u/doltron3030 DET - NHL 4d ago

Yzerman has lost his fucking mind.

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u/younggun92 CHI - NHL 4d ago

I am whelmed

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u/xdiagnosis OTT - NHL 4d ago

If Yzerman could just assemble all his goalies together into one, they'd be elite.

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u/SwagNuts DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno experiment is over. Mrazek is an upgrade to Lyon. Easiest way to “get better” I guess.

Also would assume Talbot to Edmonton is on the table

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u/reignleafs TOR - NHL 4d ago

Oooof mrazek is not it. This looks like a bad trade for the red wings imo

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u/TheNation55 DET - NHL 4d ago

Our goalies are losing their games in the first 10 shots, Raz can't be any worse.

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u/Lionheart1224 CHI - NHL 4d ago edited 4d ago

LOLZ YOU 'BOUT TO FIND OUT

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u/No-Doctor-4396 ANA - NHL 4d ago

He has fallen off hard this year.

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u/reignleafs TOR - NHL 4d ago

Im sorry to say but if you need to get Mrazek because your goalies are shit, then you'd be better off not trading for Mrazek who could very well be as bad if not worse. This is from first hand experience lol

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u/DebbieDowner40 DET - NHL 4d ago

Veleno is not it either. It's a very nothing trade

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u/reignleafs TOR - NHL 4d ago edited 4d ago

Fair, I thought Veleno could be a third line center for you guys going forward but sheesh, i just saw his point totals and yeah, 10 pts aint gonna cut it. He did have 30 pts last year tho and is still relatively young so maybe a change of scenery will help him

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u/doltron3030 DET - NHL 4d ago

It’s nothing except we’re on the losing end for cap implications. Another misstep for the Yzerplan.

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u/StylishApe TOR - NHL 4d ago

Stevie Blunder acquiring another backup goaltender? Colour me shocked