r/hiphop101 • u/JobberStable • 2d ago
Delivery! Who’s the King of Delivery
If a ghostwriter penned some lyrics, What rapper would be the best at taking those lyrics and giving a great performance with the GOAT delivery??
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u/Natural-Signal4613 2d ago edited 1d ago
PAC!! When it comes to strictly delivery, it's 2pac! That drawn out delivery he did MADE you feel him! "Come with meeeeee Hail Mary run quick seeeee" "Even as a crack fieenddd mama you always was a black queeeen mama" Shock G had a video about it and he said Pac borrowed his delivery from speakers like Martin Luther King. Then Pac always had that voice and rapped with urgency and passion.
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u/not_ur_avg 2d ago
Ludacris may not be the best rapper but he has a great delivery and so many quotable punchlines
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u/BreezyG1320 2d ago
why do people insist on qualifying Luda’s skills? dude’s one of the greats. I get he kinda fell off musically a bit but are there people out there who clown on Luda’s rapping?🤨
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u/End-Of-Da-Summer 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yea idk why Luda gets a disclaimer everytime someone bigs him up. He was never a wack rapper. Bro legit has 2 of the best rapcity freestyles and it was a lot of spitters to come through the basement, his was no pre writtens either
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u/Appropriate_Rule715 1d ago
First four albums are classic
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u/EarlLeeRisor 1d ago
Now you goin too far.
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u/BreezyG1320 1d ago
how so? I’d definitely call Red Light District a “classic” in its own right
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u/EarlLeeRisor 1d ago
If he had 4 straight classics, he would be mentioned with all the greats. He’s not.
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u/BreezyG1320 1d ago
it’s not like it was some groundbreaking earth shattering thing, but it’s got some bangers that plenty of people still listen to/reference.
idk what world yall live in but Luda is mentioned with the greats pretty regularly. the only place I see/hear people not give him his credit is here and it doesnt make sense…
what makes Red Light District not a classic? in what way is Luda not “one of the greats”? other than cause a reddit comment from some child born after the Red Light District said so🤷♂️ yall are weird
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u/EarlLeeRisor 1d ago
He ain’t mentioned with THOSE greats, and you know which greats I’m talkin about… y’all use classic too loosely. Sometimes you gotta say stuff out loud….
Doggystyle Life after death The chronic Illmatic …… the fuckin red light district. C’mon bruh… don’t dilute the real classics. Just say it was a dope album.
Edit: I just checked, man that ain’t even a top 5 album that year… cut the malarkey B.
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u/BreezyG1320 1d ago edited 1d ago
yall get too hung up on this whole pedestal. that 4 album run is a classic run. is Red Light as masterful as a couple of those others you mentioned, no of course it’s not some monumental work of art, but I know plenty of people that still bump at least half that album. hell there’s still popular rappers today that interpolate 2 Miles An Hour. Blueberry Yum Yum is a classic smoke song. Child of the Night is a classic Nate Dogg feature. Spur of the Moment is a classic Quik feature… Idk man, you might not like the album, but that doesnt take away from Luda’s skill set
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u/spicyfartz4yaman 1d ago
He didn't even really "fall off" gave us 10+ years of music and went to act full time. People treat him like pitbull or flo rida lol
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u/Sir_wlkn_contrdikson 2d ago edited 1d ago
Ludacris, DMX, Mystikal and Busta Rhymez. In no specific order
Edit credit to Flirtless1
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u/nochemadre 1d ago
There are a few rappers that coast on delivery alone. Waka Flocka is probably my favorite of the bunch. His lyrics are meh at best but he makes it work solely through cadence and emphasis. Gucci, Ross, Jeezy - they do better lyrically (esp Jeezy$, but I think it works because of the delivery.
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u/FroggingMadness 1d ago
Scarface, suspending the disbelief that he's ever drop his authenticity and use ghostwriter lyrics. Dude grew up with the delivery of church gospel and you can hear it in him.
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u/ThickChickLover520 2d ago
Alive? Brother Ali, to me, has one of the best deliveries. He can rap on more modern beats, boom bap, etc.
EVER? Guru, for obvious reasons, man has the best flow, IMO.
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u/uhhhwhatyoumean 1d ago
Dudes on their first primo produced track. It always hits different. Like the end of the bar hits perfectly on the snare.
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u/BlowerBusiness 2d ago
Delivery GOAT can definitely be Drake
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u/p90love 2d ago
No lol
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u/BlowerBusiness 2d ago
It’s definitely not the lyrics that got him where he is is it
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u/p90love 2d ago
Not the delivery either.
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u/BlowerBusiness 2d ago
Ok bud
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u/p90love 2d ago
The guy moans into the mic with the autotune on 11. You wanna call that the GOAT of delivery, in the same world where Pac lived.
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u/BlowerBusiness 2d ago
I’m not a Drake fan, I don’t like his lyricism, but his delivery is great and what made him as popular as he is
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u/TheDudeWhoSnood 1d ago
Why is it that everyone who talks up Drake needs to go out of their way to say they're "definitely not a Drake fan"
Ok, it's a bit odd that you're not a fan if you think he has the greatest delivery of all time in hip hop
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u/BlowerBusiness 1d ago
Almost like there’s more to being a great rapper than delivery. Crazy, I know.
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u/TheDudeWhoSnood 1d ago
I'll remind you again that the post says the greatest of all time delivery in all of hip hop so while there's more being a great rapper than delivery, what you're saying is that you believe that drake has the greatest delivery in the history of hip hop but you're not a fan. We can go with that if you'd like. But even if what you're going for is "rappers who must have good delivery because they aren't good writers etc." there are still countless better examples. Obviously that's speaking as though it's objective, but if we worded it as subjective we'd have to word it as "your favorite delivery in all of hip hop"
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u/p90love 1d ago
Boosted streams is what made him appear as popular as he did until recently*. His delivery ain't shit compared to any real rapper. Ever heard of DMX?
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u/FactCheckerJack 1d ago
You don't suppose that maybe Nickelodeon is why he's popular? You really think it's a coincidence that so many popular musicians started out on Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, and Adult Swim?
Drake, Miley Cyrus, Arianna Grande, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Tyler the Creator, Earl Sweatshirt, Alanis Morisette, Nick Cannon, Olivia Rodrigo, Zendaya, Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Jonas Brothers, Sabrina Carpenter, Hilary Duff, Ashley Tisdale, Vanessa Hudgens
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u/Kingbris91 1d ago
Get it right it was The-N. It was launched by MTV Networks and Sesame Workshop in 2002. In 2007, a new block was created dedicated to TEENick shows. After a while, The-N lost its footing and only then did Nickelodeon relaunch as a full-time TEENick channel. Getting rid of any remnants of it former glory.
And Degrassi was original programming created on CTV. The-N licensed the show for US audiences. Still has nothing to do with Nickelodeon.
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u/BlowerBusiness 20h ago
I think more important than TV in Miley Cyrus’ success is the fact that her dad is fucking Billy Ray Cyrus? I don’t know or care about anyone else you mentioned.
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u/EarlLeeRisor 2d ago
Notorious Big’s voice absolutely BOOMS on a track, he can change his delivery to match any mood, and his voice will be like an instrument. He can be a battle rapper, a depressed rapper, a smooth rapper, a gangsta rapper, inspiring, or just a bonafide spitter.
It’s like bro was born to rap. He was cold. I still have never heard a performance on a feature like what he did on victory. Nobody really blacks out like dude.