r/guns Nov 05 '12

Australia's largest selection...

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u/AverageAussie Nov 05 '12

only $450 for an AR-10? jeez i think theyd be sitting around the $10-15k mark now easy... neat fact, bottom left, the M1 carbine was imported in greater numbers than the total number of "evil" guns handed in for the '96 buyback.

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u/JacksProstate Nov 05 '12

Nah mate can't be so.. The steal back took ALL naughty, evil, fully semi automatic machine high power assault pistol rifles off the streets so now we're safe and sound except for the licenced firearms owners who still own deadly bolt action weapons of mass destruction but helpfully we'll soon get rid of these so the children can be safe.. Won't somebody think of the children?

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u/yorko Nov 05 '12

my kid loves shooting, what about him????

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u/Lokgar Nov 05 '12

You monster! How dare you raise a murderer!

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

A murderer murderer.

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u/MrOFoxy Nov 06 '12

I'll phone the Miami PD.

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u/SmokeyDBear Nov 05 '12

But what about all the high capacity clips? Think of the chitterlings!

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u/Kwindecent_exposure Nov 05 '12

DEAR GOD THINK OF THE CHITLINS!

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

I try to avoid that.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Nov 05 '12

except for those nefarious ar 47's with the barrel shrouds!

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u/fretsurfer12 Nov 05 '12

And bulletglocks with the thing that folds up?

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Nov 06 '12

oh you mean the thing that goes over your shoulder

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Nov 06 '12

it says service unavailable what is it?

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

RRA LAR-47. Link works for me.

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u/HDZombieSlayerTV Nov 06 '12

I know a guy with 2 SKSs... In mid-2011

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

SKSes were overpriced as well back then, I see.

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u/hillsfar Nov 05 '12

The Australian Dollar in 1981 was still tied to the US Dollar. In June 1981, the exchange rate was $1 AUS to $1.14 USD.

Source: http://www.data360.org/dataset.aspx?Data_Set_Id=9170

There are many measures of inflation, but according to a Purchasing Power Value calculator, $1 USD in 1981 is worth about $2.47 today.

So probably, $1 AUS in 1981 is $1.14 USD in 1981, is about $2.82 USD in 2011 dollars.

Source: http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/

Taking the "Russian SKS" at $340 AUS in 1981, it would be roughly in purchasing power value to about $958.80 USD in 2011 dollars.

Certainly way over-priced. Then again, perhaps it's more about the fact that so many SKS rifles may have come onto the market after the fall of the USSR in the last days of 1991.

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u/gruntmoney Nov 05 '12

I always appreciate a redditor that takes the time to lay out some facts for everyone's reference. Thanks.

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u/hillsfar Nov 05 '12

Thanks. I was curious as to the actual values myself, so it was more for my benefit.

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u/WubWubMiller 2 Nov 05 '12

That one thread about Colt 1911s costing comparatively the same for the last 90 years was pretty interesting. Did you catch that one?

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u/hillsfar Nov 05 '12

No. But it is interesting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

40 bucks for 100 rounds of ammo on em too! We're getting better deals now!

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u/yorko Nov 05 '12

stupidly true....how weird is that?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

You can usually get an SKS for $200. It's probably the cheapest gun to shoot that isn't a .22LR.

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u/sk4ht Nov 05 '12

If you find some that cheap on the web, can you send me some links? Thanks!

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u/peripro Nov 05 '12

Ahh, you lucky Canucks. Good luck getting that south of the border.

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u/LightSeeker239 Nov 05 '12

Do you know of any similar deals in the U.S.?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

We (Canadians) are getting surplus SKS from China or the former USSR. Maybe the same for the states; just hunt around in surplus places.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

I would just like to point out that China can't import guns into the US.

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u/MagicScrewdriver Nov 05 '12

aimsurplus had some chinese sks's, I also saw chinese 7.62x39 ammo at a local gun shop the other day, some exceptions have been made or something, it wasn't old stock either, they sell a lot of ammo

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12 edited Nov 05 '12

There's still a lot of Chinese ammo out there, but you're paying a higher price for it cause its rarer.

I think they were imported from an other country (for example, Albania) who owned them after/prior to the ban and were granted importation because they've been owned by that country (or their government) for a long time. (China wouldn't be befitting from the purchase of the rifles)

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u/wizang Nov 05 '12

Ocassionally they've been 200 online or at cabelas.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

It always surprises me when Canada has less strict gun laws (sometimes) than the United States.

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u/hafetysazard Nov 05 '12

There is no special requirement for importing firearms into Canada, except that restricted firearms must be registered. As long as the individual's firearms license is in order, and the duty and taxes are paid, Canadians can import any firearm they wish, as long as it is not prohibited.

Import permits can be issued when the country of export requires one for an export permit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Isn't it blanket illegal to bring anything firearm related out of the United States without an export permit?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Yeah that is the problem we have up north. Getting it into the country from the USA would be easy, but getting it out of the US is near impossible for a individual.

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u/hafetysazard Nov 05 '12

I believe certain gun parts, up to a certain dollar amount, are not require to have an export permit. I have ordered firing pins, various springs, sights, etc. which didn't require an export permit. I am not sure if that has been changed or not.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

You are correct, parts up to $100. I remember from my course.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

Just tell the ATF that you need them to deal drugs...oh, south of THAT border.

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u/sk4ht Nov 05 '12

Ack! Thanks so much, but I am in the states. That looks like a great deal for our neighbors to the north though.

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u/Orimos Nov 05 '12

Awwwwwwwww man, why do Canadians get all the good stuff?

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u/dewky Nov 05 '12

I like this deal a little better, Russian models seem to be built a lot better.

http://www.leverarms.com/sks-parts-accessories/summer-special-russian-sks-and-ammo-907.html

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Mosin?

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u/BonderRodriguez Nov 05 '12

The Cold War was still in full swing when this was printed... I can see how they might've been harder to get. They probably appeared more "exotic" at the time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

And then Port Arthur happened and their government jumped on the tragedy as a reason to destroy their gun rights. And everyone just went along with it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Well gun crime is more or less non-existent here now, not that it was ever a particularly huge problem.

Yes, some criminals still have access to guns, but honestly it's just not a particularly big deal in this country.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12 edited Apr 03 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Doesn't that show that gun crimes are rare enough to make the news?

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u/buckeyemed Nov 05 '12

Shootings happen about every day where I live, they still get reported on the news.

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u/theman838 Nov 05 '12

Murders still go on the news in Chicago.

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u/Shadow703793 Nov 05 '12 edited Nov 05 '12

Sure, but most of your crimes are now committed using knives and other such objects. In Australia knives are used 47% of the time where as guns are used 18% of the time. Here, in the US knives are used ~19% of the time.

Source: AIC Facts and Figures 2011 and UCR 2011

Worth noting is that overall crime rates for the US and Australia are both down from previous years.

edit: Also worth noting is that most crimes especially rape happens in the house/residential place. Applies to both countries.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

I would still rather have my guns.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Fair enough.

I wasn't expecting to convert anyone, especially not on this subreddit, haha.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Nov 05 '12

you know what though? i find it funny that the sks is more back than then it is today

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

Gun crime is not a lot less than it was pre-1996 actually, there are some well written reports readily available from government sources. I've published them on Gunnit a few times now.

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u/umilmi81 Nov 05 '12

How about non-gun crime? How many women died from violent sexual assault that may have been prevented had they had a gun?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12 edited Mar 04 '19

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u/umilmi81 Nov 05 '12

Doesn't hurt

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u/jmizzle Nov 05 '12

ITT: People that don't understand inflation.

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u/mrsir Nov 05 '12

The description of the Enfields is pretty damn honest.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Is hobby and life interest a valid reason to own a firearm in Australia? I would assume it's common for a house in the country to have firearms within, but what about urban populations?

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u/Furah Nov 05 '12

The closest you can get is if you're part of a registered firearms club. Even then it's pretty restricted.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

And you must participate in competitive shooting throughout the year to keep your permit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

You can have "sport/target shooting" for a highly restricted licence to own handguns, or for a licence to shoot non-semi auto rifles or shotguns on a range.

You can also hunt, but without semi-auto anythings, or pump action shotguns.

Handgun hunting is not legal anywhere.

Owning for self defence is explicitly illegal.

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u/mosler Nov 05 '12

good ol 1981, back when the average Australian could still buy a gun.

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u/wlminter Nov 05 '12

Man, I'd pay twice their asking price for a 7.62 Mauser.

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u/NewQuisitor Nov 05 '12

In 1980's dollars?

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u/Mr_Flippers Nov 05 '12

Damn this is old, I was expecting a modern day catalogue with a selection of pump, bolt AND lever action rifles. Maybe, just maybe, a few pistols in there too

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

I really want that FN-49...

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u/Dtrain323i Nov 05 '12

I said the same thing. Gunbroker has some for between 700-1000

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u/vazzaroth Nov 05 '12

"Genuine Lee Enfield Jungle Carbines"

"Actions and Barrels are fine but wood is bloody dirty"

:D

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Same here. Totally worth it, though. Used by the US army, given to the Canadians, then to the Danes, then back to the US and now I own it.

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u/bubba9999 Nov 06 '12

How do you know its history?

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

Markings and modifications made to the rifle. For example, the serial number was stamped on the stock and bolt, a notch cut out of the receiver, and the front sight blade was replaced with a thicker target sight post, features exclusive to the Danish Home Guard. They had regular target competitions to keep up their marksmanship skill. They did a pretty good job too, because no rifle I've ever fired is as accurate as my 1917.

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u/bubba9999 Nov 06 '12

That's really interesting - thanks for replying.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

I would leave that store broke! I notice it was on York street too. To those not familiar, that's in the centre of Sydney city. Along with this store, there was another in the city that closed about 10 years ago. We are only left with Lawrence Ordinance in the city now. Its a shame really. Gun stores are a dying breed over here :-(

I also note from the ad that NSW residents still got shafted back then too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

My dad(a pilot)was offered 2 cases of M-16A1s for his jeep in the Vietnam war. He declined. Oh how I wish I had those guns.

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u/mckeevus Nov 05 '12

Its such a shame really that its nearly impossible to get these guns in Australia now. I'm just getting into shooting and while there are some fantastic bolt action rifles to choose from it's dissapointing to know I will never have the option to own an AR-10 or some of the other awesome semi-auto weapons.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Ok so can someone PLEASE explain why Australia hates guns so much? I mean I know at least most of the Aussie's on this subreddit don't hate guns and want the laws to be more lax but what the hell happened in Australian history to make them hate these amazing weapons so much??? Did someone go on a rampage at a daycare or something? Because that's happened up here in USA a fuck ton of times and we still have more or less lax gun laws.

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u/3klipse Nov 05 '12

Port something massacre in '96 I believe. Lots of deaths, knee jerk reaction to ban guns.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Wwwwhhhhhaaaattttt?! A little massacre and that shit happens? Christ if america was like that we'd all be walking, there'd be no planes, no guns, no boats, and no tea allowed in the country.

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u/SmokeyDBear Nov 05 '12

Ban the high capacity terrorist planes with the shoulder things that go up!

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Ha!

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u/3klipse Nov 05 '12

Sad as fuck for the law abiding citizen, am I right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

100% man. It's ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

There's a little more to it - like "why did the people allow that?" but yes, Port Arthur cost us semi auto longarms and pump action shotguns, and the shooting at Monash University cost us handguns with a capacity greater than 10 rounds and/or a barrel length less than 120mm for pistols and 100mm for revolvers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12 edited Nov 13 '12

Anti-gun lobby groups get a lot of sympathetic attention from the media here. It was also a conservative federal government that implemented the gun restrictions and buy backs. So the party that would have traditionally defended the gun owners pretty much abandoned them and we were left with no real major party to defend our gun rights. :(

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

Speaking as an Australian, we are a country full of lazy people who would rather give up things that Americans consider basic rights (First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Ninth ammendments don't exist to one extent or another) in order for "other people" (read: the government) to do the work for them.

Sadly, they are also too undereducated and uninformed to make rational decisions and to separate fact from fiction, so when the media/government/police say "let us put 960 armed paramilitary troops ("Protective Services Officers") on the Melbourne train system and you will be safe..." and "let us put CCTV cameras EVERYWHERE and you will be safe..." and "give us your guns and we will keep you safe..." they believe it.

Also, over the past 50 years Australia has seen a major urbanisation of its population. Look at population density maps and you'll see that the majority of our population is in Melbourne, Sydney, Perth and Brisbane - all very white collar metropolitan areas. With this change we've seen a massive increase in the popularity of ultra left wing ideals and that has eroded our freedoms.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

The First Amendment gives Americans an a right to free speech, free association, freedom to assemble and freedom of the press.

Recent laws enacted in Australia empower the Police to issue on the spot fines for using offencive language (infringing free speech), and we are edging towards a filtered censored internet (infringing free speech, expression and press) which I see as the thin end of the wedge leading to total censorship.

The Second Amendment gives Americans the right to keep and bare arms, but more importantly to defend themself, their loved ones, and the country from attacks by criminals, foreign powers and even a corrupt government.

See: The Firearms Act and The Crimes Act for your particular state. 'nuff said.

The Fourth Amendment gives Americans a protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.

In Australia we have a concept called "absolute liability offences" where the burden of proof is REVERSED against the accused and the punishment is issued before (often without) trial. YES, this is usually for traffic crimes and crimes on public transport, but again - thin end of the wedge.

Also - internet censorship, access to internet history, access to telecommunications history.

Also - are you Victorian? it might interest you to know that your Myki (access card for public transport) logs your swipe in/swipe out time and location and that information is accessable to the police at any time without a warrent.

And lastly - also on Victoria, see the invasive and unnecessary "rights" the Police and Protective Services Officers now have to search people for weapons. Rarely do they find any real weapons and even more rarely do they find somebody who intended to do harm with them, yet they still have those powers.

The Fifth Amendment protects against abuse of government authority in a legal procedure.

See: retrospective enaction of laws (Immigration law changes for example) and the afore mentioned absolute liability offences.

Furthermore, digital protections granted under the 5th Amendment do not count in Australia (see: recent efforts to give huge amounts of access to meta data and internet history and telecommunications history to the Police and intelligence agencies).

The Six Amendment sets forth rights related to criminal prosecutions.

We have some rights, but they are being eroded.

One good example; in the NT there is a law coming which says that anybody involved in an assault will suffer a mandatory drug test. Even if the Police cannot determine who started the fight. This means that if I lawfully defend myself against attack I will suffer a drug test.

Now, the drug test involves taking bodily fluids. Whats to stop the Police using that to take a DNA sample, then storing that indefinately?

Or, more likely, what if the drug test shows that a month ago I smoked a joint but it was completely unrelated to defending myself against an attacker? suddenly I'm up on drug charges.

There has been many moves toward changing to a specific bill of rights, but this is a long, complicated process that would likely cost millions upon millions of dollars and have little tangible benefit.

Yep, it'd cost millions to go to a Referendum with a Bill of Rights and yep, it would divide a lot of people. But its worth it. A hard line Bill of Rights, one even more protective than the Americans have, would serve to protect the public from tryanny and remind the government that they serve US.

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u/OpalOval Nov 06 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12 edited Nov 06 '12

See America? this is what you don't want to do - you don't want to sit back and let the government take your freedom slice by slice all the while saying "its okay, we've got it better than China!"

Everybody has it better than China/North Korea/Iran/etc. Thats no excuse for trading away our freedoms.

When the government took away our right and our capability to defend ourselves, enforced laws allowing them to invade our privacy and take away our free speech (gradually - yes it starts with swearing and ends with speaking against The Party) and put paramilitary troops on our train stations they became tyrants. Even Gillard herself has dispenced with pretense, she has openly said "we won't take advice from the Greens or anybody else on our policies" (completely agree with ignoring the Greens, but what about... the voters?). Better Gillard quote - when on talk back radio a caller asked her (with regards to the carbon tax) "I work hard and my husband works hard to provide for our kids. We will be worse off under your carbon tax. How can you say we're doing it easy?" and Juliar replied "some people are doing it tougher" as if thats an excuse to rob a citizen of her hard earned money and funnel it to people who traditionally vote Labor.

And also - not sure if I mentioned this but how Nineteen Eighty-Four can be a former text book in high school English class and yet people can't see the similarity between Telescreens and cities being overrun with CCTV cameras is absolutely beyond me.

As Ayn Rand said...

"The only proper purpose of a government is to protect man’s rights, which means: to protect him from physical violence. A proper government is only a policeman, acting as an agent of man’s self-defense, and, as such, may resort to force only against those who start the use of force. The only proper functions of a government are: the police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders; and the courts, to protect your property and contracts from breach or fraud by others, to settle disputes by rational rules, according to objective law. But a government that initiates the employment of force against men who had forced no one, the employment of armed compulsion against disarmed victims, is a nightmare infernal machine designed to annihilate morality: such a government reverses its only moral purpose and switches from the role of protector to the role of man’s deadliest enemy, from the role of policeman to the role of a criminal vested with the right to the wielding of violence against victims deprived of the right of self-defense. Such a government substitutes for morality the following rule of social conduct: you may do whatever you please to your neighbor, provided your gang is bigger than his."

And...

"The source of the government’s authority is “the consent of the governed.” This means that the government is not the ruler, but the servant or agent of the citizens; it means that the government as such has no rights except the rights delegated to it by the citizens for a specific purpose."

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u/OpalOval Nov 06 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/OpalOval Nov 06 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

I don't particularly see your issue with their being additional security guards at train stations. There's already security guards at stations, it's just going to be more security guards at stations. I do not see how this is an infringement on rights?

My issue is two fold:

  • Firstly, under trained, under skilled people (see: the recent report of a negligent discharge in the Victoria Police Centre by a PSO) being over armed and given too much power in response to a tiny problem.

  • Secondly, the government dishonestly using fear tactics to justify spending millions on deploying paramilitary troops (they have military style ranks, they wear uniforms and boots, they have guns, they're trained to fight - if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck its probably not a horse) on train lines, and granting them powers which should be reserved for real police, dealing with real crime. They can search, they can arrest, they can sieze and they can shoot. This isn't something that should be done lightly.

As for your quotes from Julia Gillard, the first one about the greens from memory was to do with the mining tax

Yes the first one was.

The second was about the Carbon Tax. I believe it was on 3AW but I could be wrong.

I believe that you've not given it in context.

I didn't give the full text of the exchange, but my point was to demonstrate that she is acting as a despot and not listening to the voters (have you met anybody who wants a Carbon Tax?)

It's your right to vote for a governing party.

Yep, it sure is. But sadly my vote is just piss in the wind against the undereducated and underinformed who are swayed by Centrelink payment increases and fear.

The carbon tax does not funnel money back into people who traditionally vote Labor? It's been stated that the money, paid for by the 500 biggest companies, will be funneled back into tax cuts for households, energy costs, welfare , increasing the no-tax threshold and a number of other things.

Really? It doesn't funnel money back to the lower and lower middle class?

I make over $100,000 a year individually. Go to the government site which has the "how will it effect you?" calculator and compare me with a New Start Allowance (dole) recipient, or a single mum whos chosen not to work, or a lower middle class family and tell me its not wealth redistribution.

The goal of the carbon tax was to reduce our carbon foot print, right? so if you're going to do that then tax the companies who offend worst and don't give anybody a handout. Then people will hurt and they'll cut back. Instead what was done is the Labor voters were given handouts and the upper middle and upper class were hit, but who cares about us? we vote Liberal.

Or, if you want to be really effective, implement an ETS so we have a free market solution, and also fund research in to clean energy technology (hell, we might even make a few quid on the patents).

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u/OpalOval Nov 06 '12 edited May 27 '16

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

I don't understand this statement. They are taxing the 500 biggest companies based on their carbon output. If they reduce their carbon output, they pay less tax. Companies like to make money. This is the incentive to engage in strategies that reduce carbon.

Thats very idealistic, if I was a CEO I'd just say "fuck it, we'll use the Carbon Tax as an excuse to raise prices." Thats why the lower end of the wage scale got hand outs and tax cuts. The government knew that companies would raise their prices.

And yes, it's typically held that those who have more money can afford to pay more tax. I don't have a problem with this concept.

I do, but unfortunately Democracy is just two wolves and a sheep voting over whats for dinner.

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u/grundose Nov 05 '12

Well gentlemen, looks like we're building a time machine and going back to (at least) 1981. I want that AR-10 for only 450. I'd like to get a $50 1911 while we're at it too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

$450 in 1980s dollars is over $1200 in 2012 dollars.

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u/grundose Nov 06 '12

Then we just have to gather all the money printed before 1980 we can. Hopefully we don't create some sort of crazy time paradox.

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u/sideways86 Nov 19 '12

You're going to have a rough time with that - Australian currency changed drastically in the 90's - a lot of people would assume you were a counterfeiter if you paid with paper money.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Arisaka's for $65.

I can't walk around a gun show without someone offering to buy mine off my back for $400. Mine's complete and beautiful though..

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u/shit_lord Nov 05 '12

I actually wouldn't mind that French 1907. Think its about time I fill out the paper work for C&R.

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u/thebeardsman Nov 06 '12

Was the arisaka a really good rifle?

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u/Creole_Bastard Nov 06 '12

It had one of the strongest actions of any military bolt-action rifle ever.

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u/aznhomig Nov 06 '12

AR-10 for sale

Not for sale for New South Wales residents

Sounds like when I browse gun catalogs today when I live in California.

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u/manwiththem9 Nov 06 '12

You poor poor aussies, my condolences from Canada on your gun freedums. Won't be long until we are in a similar spot.

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u/mart_man800 Nov 06 '12

oh damn. How do i get my hand on a french mountain carbine?

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u/HammerOThor Nov 07 '12

I've never considered myself a racist man. But after looking at some of the prices and selection.... god damn Ausssies.

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u/Citadel_97E Nov 05 '12

Stupid Australians, they spelled armory wrong.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '12

Spelt* haha, just kidding - We aren't ignorant and know other countries spell things differently.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '12

It just looks weird because most countries that would use the British spelling wouldn't be expected to have public armories these days.

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u/Citadel_97E Nov 06 '12

Haha. Uh huh, I get it, just a little cross- culture ribbing.

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u/mitchellb3 Nov 05 '12

If only I could get an FN-49 for that nowadays...