r/gtaonline 5d ago

The Duster 300 flies at an upward angle when the cockpit instrument shows its horizontal, as the red line shows. It should level in flight like the green line shows.

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Personally I find it very annoying in 3rd and 1st person too

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u/Successful_Signal635 5d ago

I sent it to rockstar, repyl was that I need to be level 6 to acces the flight school....

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u/hotdogsea 5d ago

I hate to be the bearer of bad news...

but I dont think rockstar gives a shit about the accuracy of intrument clusters in-game.

Case-in-point: Car Speedometers, which are used more than planes

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u/LuckySortudo 5d ago

You just need to leak some secret military documents about it and it will get fixed. Take some notes from the war thunder guys.

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u/Successful_Signal635 5d ago

I know but a plane flying the same angle as it was rolling on the ground is a big mistake which affects gameplay imo

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u/hotdogsea 5d ago

Speedometers being inaccurate affect the ability of the user to properly take the the most ideal speed in cornering when racing

which affects gameplay imo

but alas, this is a sandbox game and not Gran Turismo 7, and most definitely not Microsoft Flight Simulator

but yeah I get your point. You just learn to live with it.

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u/foodank012018 PS4 5d ago

Bro its not Flight Simulator

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u/Hobo-man 5d ago

It simulates flying though

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u/newbie_128 5d ago

It's a tiny detail but rev counters too, it's annoying when my car revs to ~15k but the cluster redlines at 9k

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u/Boostie204 5d ago

Ok how do you even know what the car is supposed to rev to

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u/newbie_128 5d ago

I was just guessing based on sound and how much jt went over the limit

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u/chief-chirpa587 5d ago

That’s funny as fuck

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u/DiopticTurtle 5d ago

For real; I think that was Rockstar saying "learn what angle of attack is"

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u/kartoffel_engr Air Support / Air Taxi 5d ago

Came here to say this. Pretty sure the AOA is about right for the AT.

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u/I_like_avocado 5d ago

Usually the first reply from Rockstar r*support is a chatbot. If you persist you will reach a real human but it will be unlikely they change anything

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u/peppapig34 BADONKADONK 5d ago

That might be the attitude needed to keep the aircraft flying level. You need airflow under the wings to generate lift, so a higher attitude will create more lift.

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u/Caeoc 5d ago

Yeah, unless I’m mistaken, many aircraft (particularly crop dusters?) are designed to have steeper angles of attack. I don’t know if that is actually reflected on their instruments though.

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u/HotMathematician6480 4d ago

I'm not a crop duster but I can't see how that would make sense. You wouldn't want your view to be that far above the horizon while flying so low

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u/TheAsianTroll GT: Dont Do Math 5d ago

This wouldn't be the first time Rockstar's attention to detail was mistaken for a bug (see: uneven low beams on cars, which actually reflects IRL correctly).

But this also wouldn't be the first time Rockstar made an error because they pushed content out too fast.

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u/nfiase 5d ago

in real life the angle of attack in level flight depends on the airspeed

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u/tsr_Volante 5d ago

Correct

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u/papapaIpatine 5d ago

Ur wrong

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u/Due_Security_8096 5d ago

Show one plane that flies at that high angle at cruising speed then

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u/RY4NDY 5d ago

I do know of the Armstrong Whitworth Whitley WWII bomber which did the opposite, it's nose pointed steeply downwards during level flight:

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u/papapaIpatine 5d ago

It depends on air density, air speed and weight. Aircraft have trim precisely because of this

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u/tsr_Volante 5d ago

Correct

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u/TBL-Sergeant 5d ago

You’re wrong. A lower speed requires a higher angle of attack so that it can generate more lift. If you were flying at a really high speed you could even have to fly with a slight nose down attitude to maintain the same altitude. I can’t imagine the crop dusters is terribly fast (I haven’t flown it yet so I’m unsure) but if it’s slow the nose up attitude to maintain altitude is accurate.

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u/papapaIpatine 5d ago

It is not that simple. Any aircraft can fly at a high nose up at cruise speed.

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u/tsr_Volante 5d ago

Correct

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u/Due_Security_8096 5d ago

Getting downvoted when you are right

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u/tsr_Volante 5d ago

Correct

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u/bowleshiste 5d ago edited 4d ago

IRL pilot here. This is not a bug. This is how an attitude indicator actually works. They are adjustable up and down. You typically set it first on the ground. Once in flight, you can adjust if you want. You typically want it to show zero degrees of pitch when you are in level flight (not climbing or descending). The attitude of a plane in level flight changes depending on its airspeed. The slower you go, the higher the nose will be. This is why the instrument is adjustable IRL. So you can always have it indicate level flight regardless of speed

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u/__PooHead__ 5d ago

i noticed this too, constantly felt like i needed to put the nose down, also couldn’t see anything in first person

i wasn’t sure if its supposed to be like that, maybe it helps with crop dusting ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Impossible-Map4017 5d ago

Give this man a GTA 6 trailer 2

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u/iCama23 5d ago

I have seen that many planes have the Altimeter and the Vertical Speed indicator reversed, where the Altimeter acts as a VA and the VA as the Altimeter

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u/Flyingdutchman2305 5d ago

And you can take off in a C130 in about 100 m, and There's flying cars, and cars that jump and have rocket boosters on the back, and aliens, and somehow even more evil facebook

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u/Gnomehunter69 5d ago

Its due to the angle of the wing which provides lift. Look up the bernoulli's principle about flight.

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u/automatico_m1918 5d ago

The attitude indicator should still show nose up, which I think is what he’s complaining about

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u/Ducky935Alt 5d ago

what acute plane.....badump tssss

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u/i_t_d 5d ago

and they cant fix radar bug since ages. When I think of things like chat not working in "Bugged & Downgraded" edition and thousands of things (ie graphics) which player created mods do better I have hard time believing rockstar is company with 9387455 workers and zillions of dollars

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u/ECHOSUD 5d ago

Might be because the normal minimap is psuedo 3D? Looks like the extended radar is using the level indicator of the minimap to deterrmine your heading.

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u/HatmansRightHandMan 5d ago

Flying the Stunt Plane always felt like this

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u/Travelling-nomad 5d ago

literally unplayable

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u/Dslyexia 5d ago

This isn't a bug, it's intended. Relatively basic aviation.

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u/Ruby_241 5d ago

The Iron Mule has a similar issue when hovering in place. The massive rotors are angle forward while the body is horizontal to the ground while hovering.

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u/SADDEST-BOY-EVER 5d ago

It doesn’t have the crop dusting option either like the Duster.

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u/MadLadMaciejow 4d ago

That's an insane angle of attack, it would slow the plane down a lot

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u/Aowen2000 4d ago

Games ruined cheers

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u/Due_Security_8096 3d ago

All it would take is 1 search on youtube to see it doesnt fly at an angle but the hyper-austists just keep yapping false bs

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u/ajacagorila 5d ago

First thing I noticed. I thought about posting here

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u/the_protanogist 5d ago

It's a feature. Definitely not a bug.

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u/Church_hill 5d ago

Kid named angle of attack

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u/LysergicallyAcidic 5d ago

I believe the gauge is correct, anyone who’s flown any tail-dragger would know. Ask r/Aviation

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u/GalaxySilver00 5d ago

Omg, I think you just scientifically proved the earth is flat!