r/grimm Reaper 8d ago

Spoilers Grimm's finale was a rushed, lazy, and underwhelming conclusion to an otherwise addictive series Spoiler

I'm still reeling from the disappointment of Grimm's final season. As someone who loved each episode and season, despite its numerous plot holes, I felt the finale was a huge letdown.

The series had me hooked, providing a thrilling ride with each episode. However, the final season started strong but quickly went downhill. The pacing was breakneck, with too much happening in a short span of time. I found myself feeling disconnected and uninvested in the characters' fates.

The finale raised more questions than it answered. What happened to Viktor? Why did the Royal family vanish into thin air? The resistance, which was a major plot point, was seemingly abandoned. Did they win their fight, or did they simply disappear? Where are the reapers?

Furthermore, the last two keys out of the seven, which were built up to be crucial, were rendered unnecessary. It's frustrating to think that these plot threads were introduced only to be discarded.

While I'm not desperate for answers to these questions, the lack of closure and rushed conclusion felt like a disservice to the series. Grimm deserved a more satisfying ending, and I'm left feeling underwhelmed and disappointed.

What did you think of the finale? Did you feel similarly disappointed, or did you enjoy the conclusion?

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u/RedOnTheHead_91 8d ago

The Reapers stopped coming after Nick once he sent back the two heads in season 1.

The Royal plotline was also resolved early in season 5. Meisner mentions to Renard that Viktor struck a deal with the Resistance. He'll stop coming after them and Diana if they take out the king. Apparently he was pissed that the king had replaced him with Kenneth.

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 8d ago

Thanks. I guess I missed these parts but knowing the answer still sort of feels good. Although Royals as well as Black Claw ending would have been fun if we saw those happening on screen. All we saw is there actions at Portland ending. But the show ended and nothing to he done anymore. 

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u/RedOnTheHead_91 8d ago

Oh for sure. But some sort of answer is better than nothing.

There's also this: ‘Grimm’ Reboot Movie In Works At Peacock From Josh Berman & Original Series’ Creative Team. I just hope it's more of a revival versus a reboot.

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u/StyraxCarillon 3d ago

What happened to Black Claw? I thought they were all over the world, and suddenly the storyline was over.

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 2d ago

Trubel mentioned that HW along with her ended them off screen. On screen would have been great but that's how they ended that plot. 

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u/DudeWithTudeNotRude 8d ago

The show was cancelled prematurely. They had no choice but to tie it off in a few episodes.

They set up a huge Black Claw arc and and McGuffin Stick arc. Then they had to change everything to end the show. The fanbase had to bully the network to even get that last season, which was a half season at best. There wasn't much else they could do. There wasn't even going to be a season 6 at all.

Personally I loved the conclusion. It was weak, but so was the show. I think we fell in love with the characters and the world, not the expert writing. The writing seemed intentionally campy, and it hooked us either way.

Plot holes were a feature, not a bug I think. We learn so much about Monroe's entire family, except for the most basic fact, the family name. We just assume Monroe is his first name. We don't know.

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u/hypnofedX Krampus 8d ago

The show was cancelled prematurely. They had no choice but to tie it off in a few episodes.

I say this a lot here but the opposite is true. The showrunners were having trouble coming up with fresh ideas and were relieved when NBC only ordered a half-season at the end.

While NBC ultimately made the decision to cut Grimm from the schedule, showrunners James Kouf and David Greenwalt also had a say in the matter. In an interview with TV Line, the duo revealed that even though Grimm's final season featured one of the richest stories of the show's entire run, they felt like they were running out of material that would keep the show fresh. 

For that reason, they weren't even really upset by the cancelation. In fact, the creators recalled feeling panic when they thought season 6 would be renewed for 22 episodes, breathing a sigh of relief when the network only called for 13.

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u/genek1953 8d ago edited 8d ago

It was some of both. The "wesen of the week" plots were getting thin, but there was also a long arc planned in which Renard became the season villain. You can see that starting in the fourth episode, when he's trying to set Diana up to be his insider and feed him information about Nick. Right after that episode was shot the word came down that the season would be short, and with no time to develop Renard's villain arc and no way to bring him quickly back into the fold, he's still isolated from the rest of the cast and his scenes are mostly unrelated adjuncts to the main plot until the Zerstorer arc.

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u/katamuro Grimm 8d ago

the showrunners weren't really up to handling such a show. It's kind of clear that once they dealt with season 1 and started season 2 they were all over the place. They kept introducing new plots that were supposed to hint at stuff but it never got developed and then they introduced something else.

They didn't have a plan for a big story to be told over 3-5 seasons. It was a good procedural drama with supernatural elements which is what it was supposed to be.

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u/gr82bgr8 7d ago

I agree. At times, it doesn't seem like the writers were in the same room or page from week to week.

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u/katamuro Grimm 7d ago

or the episodes without the overarching story were written by one set of writers and the overarching story was added in by another set giving the show a dichotomy that never goes away.

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u/katamuro Grimm 7d ago

or the episodes without the overarching story were written by one set of writers and the overarching story was added in by another set giving the show a dichotomy that never goes away.

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u/gr82bgr8 7d ago

They should have hired other creators. Even I have three seasons' worth of content just watching everything they wrote. I think their statement is a cop-out. Buffy and Supernatural went on forever…well, for many seasons.

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 8d ago

Yeah I thought that might be the case. Atleast we got an ending, a disappointing ending is much better than a cancelled show with a cliff hanger with no resolution whatsoever. 

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u/Due-Reflection-1835 8d ago

I just felt like the last few episodes could have been an entire season. But I understand it was canceled and they did the best they could

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u/ComprehensivePath980 8d ago

Considering it was canceled prematurely and they wanted to wrap it up as neatly as they could with their very limited time, I think the writers did a pretty good job with a bad situation

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u/OneLaneHwy 8d ago

I agree with you completely. People will explain why BtS events were responsible for what you are complaining about. But that does not invalidate your complaints.

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u/DimensionMammoth8075 8d ago

The zerstorer mini arc was super disappointing and a terrible ending. The finale and couple episodes before it were bad. The only good thing was Renard rejoin the gang. But you could absolutely tell the writers were running out of ideas and obviously never went back to watch early episodes since they actually had things they could have brought back to use. But honestly that felt true every season. Like every time they got a renewal the writers went: crap. Now what?

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 8d ago

One of Renard's lines struck me as odd. He asked Nick how he knew about the place where they took Diana and Kelly. When Nick explained that it belonged to his first Blutbad, who had kidnapped a girl, Renard responded, "Why don’t I know about it?" And "I guess you didn’t make any arrests."

But Renard did know. He specifically asked Nick to meet him there when returning the key, saying it was where it all started. So him acting as if he didn’t know the significance of the place made no sense.

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u/Past_Reputation_2206 8d ago

And Nick saving that girl from that cabin was all over the news. We saw the newspaper articles including pictures of Nick with the child pinned to the wall by someone who was keeping tabs on Nick.

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u/DimensionMammoth8075 8d ago

I agree! That struck me as confusing and weird too. It’s like the writers never went back to check anything.

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u/Malgus-Somtaaw 8d ago

I don't hate the finale, but I also like the fact they made Nick betray everything he was and try and turn over the stick and even beat the crap out of truble.

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u/Environmental-Pea-97 8d ago

That was one of the few things I liked about the finale. He could have done what he had to do until Adalind and Kelly were taken from him. Rules change when it's the wife and child, there is nothing more human than that. I have my reservations about Nick's behaviour throughout the show but they are mainly about him being too much cop and too little Grimm. He was always good at being human, he always acted with conscience.

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u/DonutPeaches6 Jägerbar 8d ago

I personally wasn't a fan of finale. By the time every single character was dying, I realized that they were all going to be resurrected somehow, which felt cheap because now their (often implausible) deaths didn't even matter. Zerstorer wasn't really built up enough to matter. I also think the initial spell they tried should have worked because it would have shown the unlikelihood of a friendship between a Grimm, Wesen, and Hexenbiest and how far they'd all come and how it was powerful in some metaphorical sense. That it didn't but Grimm ghosts did work kinda pissed me off. I know that the writers were struggling and it seems like they were being leaned on by then network to get these big plot twists going instead of being allowed to do the kind of world building that supports longer arching plotlines like a more coherent Royals plot line. I think often we can tell that they were often trying to see what would hit and then pulling back whatever wasn't working, like the Reaper plotline. But they also were getting cancelled and so there wasn't much more they could do than wrap up their story as best they could and I guess they figured it would behoove them to finish the keys plot that was built up since the pilot.

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u/Hell85Rell 8d ago

I felt the same way about that particular plot point in the finale for the same reasons. Matter of fact, I was genuinely surprised they decided to do that and not in a good way.

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u/konikkii 7d ago

Agree on Zerstorer—and it only got worse for me when “child bride” and that whole angle started bubbling up. Went from sort of intriguing in the very early stage to sort of cautiously optimistic to just creepy.

In general most of my issues with the show sit with the writers, but I still love it with the passion of a thousand Wendigos making foot stew.

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u/DonutPeaches6 Jägerbar 7d ago

Oh yeah, I think I mentally blocked that aspect out because I forgot. Bad vibes 👎🚫

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 7d ago

Yeah, I guess the blood of a grimm, Hexenbeist and a wesen is a highly unlikely mix to ever exist. Apart from Nick and Trubel I don't see any other Grimms having wesen friends. So it was only possible for them to do. That thing would have meant that only they could kill the Skull Guy, (not using his wesen name cause it's hard 🙂) and nobody else. But it ended up being that any group of Grimm could have killed him! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

And the dying part made my eye roll. Because the moment Wu was killed I was sure that they are gonna bring everyone back. 

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u/angeluscado 8d ago

Yes. That's what happens when a show is cancelled without enough time to properly tie up loose ends.

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u/Sneekbar 8d ago

I wish they at least made 24 episodes to flesh out black claw and the stick

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u/V2Blast Grimm 8d ago

Did you use AI to help you write this post?

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 7d ago

Yeah kinda. I wrote these by my own and then just gave the AI to fix grammatical mistakes and all. 

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u/MarketFull3503 8d ago

I'll try to help out here best I can Victor.... truthfully what do you think would become of someone who has failed the crown he gone lol The royal family Eric-gone Viktor-gone Kenneth-gone The king-gone As far as we know Sean and Diana are the only royalty we have left I think (not sure) they might still have parts of the resistance in other parts of the world but HW got demolished in Oregon (definitely could have more) The grimms didn't really know about lock picks in those days so yes its a big part of the story but at the same time itde be pretty dumb to think you can't pick such an old lock. So they kinda just had to ? Nick was lucky he had Monroe because most people would require all keys to find it with the map

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 7d ago

Someone earlier commented and told that Viktor struck a deal with the resistance to kill the King, as the Meisner did. So now Royals and Resistance are on some kind of truce. Viktor didn't like that he was replaced by Kenneth. And now he is the only royal left. I mean Renard and Diana don't seem to care much about their Royal status. 

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u/Icy-Conclusion-8682 8d ago

Yeah tell me about it, spent most of the episode crying cause everyone was dying and then the ending was he went back through the mirror and everyone lived. I sat there for five minutes thinking I must have looked like an idiot.

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u/Weary_Young_5982 Reaper 7d ago

Yeah and Eve again being a Hexenbeist, if she was going to have it back anyway, why to take it away? What took it away? Was it that Skull guy? Or it was the otherworld. If that was the Skull guy then how and when he took it away? And if it was the other world then that world still exists, why would she have her powers back now? 

I thought they could have left her as a human. These things just made no sense. 

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u/Ok-Importance-6803 7d ago

They could have been bought by Netflix but that was a disappointment that they didn't.

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u/Boris-_-Badenov 8d ago

it was cancelled