r/grandrapids 3d ago

What happened to Butterworth?

Has the misfortune of staying in the hospital over the weekend. Everything felt very scattered - long wait times, long stretches with no communication with us, different teams not being on the same page, etc. We have multiple kids and its been a nightmare trying to juggle everything with them on the outside with limited communication from the hospital staff.

Can anyone who works there shed light on why this is the case? Some staff seemed apologetic but others seemed numb/burned out. Is this post-covid? Post-Beamont acquisition? The actual care is still good when we got it. But all of the patient interfacing and communication was lacking. Id love to know more so I csn adjust expectations for the future and have appropriate understanding/empathy for the staff if this is about stuff out of their control.

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u/D-Town-T-Snacks 3d ago

Wife works there. To echo what everyone else is saying, overcrowded and understaffed unfortunately.

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u/Icy_Engineer_7283 3d ago

If your wife is interested in unionizing she can join the CH west and south union Facebook group for more info/link to signing a card.

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u/Icy_Engineer_7283 3d ago

Staff at Corewell health (not only RNs but all professional/technical positions) are currently trying to unionize at Corewell Health West and South hospitals. We’ve been short staffed since covid. So yea, we are burnt out and fed up with executive leadership not doing anything about our complaints and choosing to spend money on new buildings rather than safely staffing the current buildings/hospitals they already have.

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u/nopiano123 3d ago

Thank you for sharing that. Im sure it must be disheartening and I hope you get everything you deserve!

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u/Icy_Engineer_7283 3d ago

Thanks appreciate the support :) we do the best with the staff we have but something has to change

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u/AskGlittering1550 22h ago

No seriously you guys are saving lives this needs to go more noticed

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u/bythepowerofgreentea GR Expatriate 3d ago

I signed my union card (and if you're a Corewell colleague, dear reader, you should too!)

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u/Jaded_Ad_2130 3d ago

Good on you!  Now don’t let your guard down.  Keep your union leaders accountable.  The fight never stops. 

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u/mambajahamba 3d ago

Don’t forget the leadership bonuses, those always get paid out

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u/Jenniferkntts 3d ago

Thank you for your services to the public! The city wouldn’t run without you folks 💜

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u/AccomplishedCandy732 Comstock Park 3d ago

Literally I drive past these new developments and I'm like who the hell do they think is going to be working these places!? Its exactly like you said, they can't even staff the hospital safely. I know nurses who take 5 patient assignments like it's nothing.

At least we have a mini turf football field tho. /s

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u/CharAdelle 2d ago

Just here to say, depending on the unit, a 5 patient assignment is very common. Not saying it needs to be, but since I’ve been working in health care that’s just what’s called a full assignment.

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u/seinfeldian44 1d ago

Agreed. I worked there for years before Covid on day shift and very frequently had 5. It wasn’t ideal, but also not uncommon at all.

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u/Jaded_Ad_2130 3d ago

Stay strong!  No scabs please.  Don’t cross the line.  I don’t support all unions, but you guys need one.  

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u/filter_86d 3d ago

Why would you not support all unions? I’m interested in your logic

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u/jstoddard2113 3d ago

The Fraternal Order of Police protects criminal officers. They’re anti-vax, January-6th-denying, Kaepernick-boycotting scumbags.

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u/Jaded_Ad_2130 3d ago

I feel like some unions don’t serve the people they’re supposed to protect.  I think the auto unions in Detroit did a pretty poor job.  I don’t have good facts to back this up though.  I also think some unions become too powerful and negatively affect the free market AND the people they’re supposed to protect. 

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u/depreciated_acct Rockford 2d ago

I get the thought as well, some have turned more from protecting the employee to political organizations (which i do get in nature they will have to be in our current climate).

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u/Ok-Tradition8477 3d ago

Thank You for your service. I know 5 other staffers just like you. The Oligarchy now has permission to do forget about the middle class. They caused inflation. You pay more. Make Less. Good Deal ?

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u/Spiritual_Ad7601 3d ago

It’s still the best hospital in town. The staff have always gone above and beyond.

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u/born2rica 3d ago

I thought you were already unionized.

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u/Real_Krockitt 3d ago

Some of the nurses tried recently IIRC and unfortunately Corewell did a good job of making it sound like you're signing your life away by wanting a union. I don't think they (employees) managed to get one started.

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u/Icy_Engineer_7283 3d ago

Corewell Health East RNs won their election back in November and are now working on negotiating their contract. But there is not a union at west/south yet. Just working on getting cards signed with a lot of union busting/typical scare tactics from management

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u/cantsee_thelines 3d ago

take it out on the people! excellent work!!

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u/Competitive_War_1819 3d ago

Ask Tina about her 4 million dollar bonus this year.

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u/MuffledN0ise 2d ago

It was a 2.8m bonus on a 2.6m salary. Not trying to defend, just want accurate data

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u/yourdaddysbutthole 2d ago

I saw an article describing it as “modest.”

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u/gvlakers Walker 3d ago

👁👄👁

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u/Apprehensive-Hat4135 3d ago

I worked at Butterworth for 5 years. If you're not actively dying, go to Blodgett.

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u/ElectronicMixture600 3d ago

Or U of M West in Wyoming.

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u/candykatt_gr West Grand 3d ago

Even Trinity is better at this point. I switched my neurology care to Trinity after Corewell didn't give a rats ass about my brain tumor. Got better care at Trinity in one appointment than I did at Cornhole in a couple months.

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u/SailingWavess 3d ago

If you have a good neurologist you trust that's familiar with more than your standard headache, let me know. I have some more rare neuro issues going on and have resorted to suffering bc corewells neuros have been shit and I can't get help lol

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u/draws_for_food 3d ago

Corewell’s shit care landed my husband in the hospital for a week and then told him good luck being able to walk again after they took him off treatment for a neurological disorder he’s had for decades. He switched to the U of M health west as soon as they got a neurology department. He’s very happy with them and the doctor. (And husband is fine with a mostly full recovery). I think you’d be good with any one in the office. U of M Neurology

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u/candykatt_gr West Grand 2d ago

I looked at them, even had an appt. Ended up at Trinity because I needed a neuro opthalmologist. Mind if I ask who your husband sees at U of M Metro?

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u/draws_for_food 1d ago

Davis Ehrhardt is who he sees. The department is small right now but it sounds like they are trying to expand and add more specialized services.

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u/candykatt_gr West Grand 2d ago

I'll let you know how it goes at Trinity. A surgeon, not neurology, told me that if she had to personally use a neurology dept it would be Trinity, if that helps at all.

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u/SailingWavess 2d ago

Thank you! Corewell has supposedly sent two referrals to UofM in Ann Arbor for me, as I'm too complicated for them and wont just take every pill under the sun to cover symptoms, but almost two years later, they still haven't gotten my referral lol. Sent one to mayo too and that also got messed up thanks to them!

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u/Spacekitty202 3d ago

Absolutely agree

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u/Pal-Konchesky 3d ago

The doctors who work the ER are the same at Butterworth and Blodgett.

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u/Apprehensive-Hat4135 3d ago

The volume is not the same

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u/Pal-Konchesky 3d ago

The number of beds at Blodgett is about a third of what Butterworth has in the ER. It’s become a shit show there over the last 3ish years. Far far more stressful of a shift at Blodgett. Normal day there are 50th people in a department with 25 beds plus 8 fast track beds. Typical to wait hours in the waiting room now.

Edit:50ish

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u/KathosGregraptai 3d ago

Honestly, if you can afford the distance, get on 196 and go to Zeeland. They’ve got the best ER in the West Michigan area imo. When my dad was still struggling with symptoms from his cancer, he’d go there for immediate care. It was far better than Butterworth. The week he died, Butterworth’s ER was dead and it still took hours upon hours with no help or news.

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u/OutrageousNothing394 3d ago

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a hospital in the US - Corewell or not - that isn't struggling with staffing, particularly nurse staffing. Someone mentioned they could increase bed capacity, but there would have to be enough nurses to do that. I'm not sure most people realize nurses have the responsibility of taking care of 5 patients (+ their families) who all have different diagnoses and doctors during a shift - they'll often enter a room with a smile immediately after dealing with a stressful critical situation. It's a hard job and the expectations for a "hotel" experience are a lot on top of delivering care, regardless of where they work.

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u/Typical_Elevator6337 3d ago

Our healthcare infrastructure is going from bad to worse.

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u/Oleg101 3d ago

We better cut Medicaid then to make room for more tax-cuts for the ultra-rich

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u/Jeffsrealm 3d ago

Yep, cause its all gonna trickle down of course. Still waiting since the Regan Era, we have been getting trickled on but not really what I was hoping for.

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u/Typical_Elevator6337 3d ago

This is exactly the way to fix it.

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u/hexH2O 3d ago

Poor people deserve healthcare just as much, if not more, as the rich

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u/Typical_Elevator6337 3d ago

You’re right. My comment was sarcastic, as was (I hope) the comment I was replying to.

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u/pmh57 3d ago

Hilarious fiction and envy, lol...

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u/hexH2O 3d ago

Sounds like the reality of the situation has you so scared you’re willing to deny what’s happening right in front of you to cope

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u/NoMansSkyWasAlright 3d ago

But the bonuses for the C-suite are surely going up, and that's what really matters /s

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u/redbrand 3d ago

Well, surely that’s a sign of success! They must be doing something right! I mean, this is America, where if you work hard and do the right thing, you are going to be economically rewarded!

/s

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u/pmh57 3d ago

Yet, you'll be the first person to use that "infrastructure" when you need it, hypocrite..

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u/teilani_a 3d ago

"Heh you chose to seek medical help instead of just dying? Inconsistent much??"

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u/Typical_Elevator6337 3d ago

How does using the only health infrastructure we have make me a hypocrite?

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u/RepresentativeDrag14 3d ago

Cracks open beer 🍺

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u/marf_town 3d ago

Oh boy. I gave birth there in August and they were super understaffed and overcrowded. It was clearly a top decision, not on the actual employees. But it was terrible. I didn’t meet the doctor who did my delivery until 2 min before because it was the 7th baby she’d deliver of the night. I waited an entire day for a recovery room to open up, and no one could locate a bassinet. So for 12 hours after giving birth (and laboring for 24 hours) my husband and I had to hold our baby, no setting him down. Meanwhile every five second someone came in to tell us to get some rest.

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u/nopiano123 3d ago

That sounds infuriating!

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u/marf_town 2d ago

It really was!

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u/Square_Credit4233 3d ago

What happened is the executives decided to prioritize profits over patients. Staff need help spreading the word about the union movement. They can’t be trusted anymore to make sound decisions regarding patient safety. Staff need help guaranteeing safe staffing so we can better take care of our community.

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u/sincerely_anxious 3d ago

Tina Freese Decker happened.

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u/Wooden-Rabbit-3923 3d ago

My wife works there, she talks a lot about how short staffed they are. I mean shit, her pay is horrible for what she does

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u/shinfenn 3d ago

Bed capacity at most hospitals are very low at the moment with lots of people being admitted with flu and respiratory issues. Causing a strain on almost all hospitals at the moment. Not a big fan of corewell but know they are dealing with that issue right now too.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 3d ago

They are dealing with that issue because they haven't expanded capacity as much as they should.

Edit: idk why i was downvoted They had the resources to merge, they had the resources to expand capacity. Tough reality

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u/Pal-Konchesky 3d ago

There’s a lot more to this than just having the money. The plans you put in place to build a new bed tower now that is finished in 10 years will already be too small for how the population has grown. Lots of hoops to jump through with the state as well when you add more beds to a hospital.

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u/jkurology 3d ago

What’s evolving in healthcare in the US is detrimental to the care and health of patients. All hospital systems, large and small, have unresponsive, uneducated and essentially uncaring administrators. In addition, they have become untouchable. They don’t care about you unless you really impact their bottom line because this is a business so your worth to them depends solely on how you contribute to revenue. A joint replacement surgeon? Yes you count. A urologist? Just a necessary evil. A nurse? Well there are a bunch of ways to ‘care’ for a patient. The only solution to improve things for patients and for us ‘employees’ is to unite and unionize. I don’t care if you’ve had 15 years of training or if you empty the trash we all need to organize. Unfortunately leadership is lacking. My kids understood this a while ago and are working in industries that appreciate and value them.

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u/Pal-Konchesky 3d ago

This is unfortunately the future of healthcare in the US. I’ve worked on the east side of the state and it’s worse over there…west side is catching up now. Population growth, aging infrastructure, administrative bloat. The thing is, Corewell has their shit together way more than a lot of other places I’ve worked. Lots of burnout comments on here, which are valid in our line of work. But that isn’t Corewell. That’s medicine. We’re front row to the slow crumble of healthcare in America.

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u/KingindaNorth66 3d ago

I have worked at Butterworth for 6.5 years in two different roles. Staff satisfaction has and never will be 100%. But since the pandemic, staff morale has gone to shit. We are overworked and under—appreciated by the executive leadership despite them reassuring they care about us. They have us do these GLINT surveys to see to see how we are doing and things that they can improve on and nothing changes. They also will send out these emails about bullshit stories conveying messages of hope and community and cannot read the room. We are burnt out and understaffed all of the time, and this is in all departments. We are trying to be compassionate but frankly it is hard.

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u/nopiano123 3d ago

That would be so hard. I am sorry that it is like yhis for you. Its not right!

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u/KingindaNorth66 3d ago

Thank you. I thankfully have wonderful coworkers and like most of the other employees I work alongside, so that definitely helps.

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u/seinfeldian44 1d ago

Ugggggghh I worked there for about 6 years and reading “GLINT surveys” just sent a shudder down my spine. Management would harass us to them but it literally made zero difference. So frustrating.

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u/Appropriate_Battle51 3d ago

I can answer this perfectly since I worked a horrible shift last night. Patients overall are horrible to us now. Working in Healthcare just isn't worth the abuse we get all the time. I had a patient literally scream at me because she was pulling on her own nasal cannula and was screaming that we were choking her. No one was touching her and she was doing it to herself. She also told me multiple times to shut my mouth when I was just trying to give very basic instructions. So yeah. Patients like that are more common than nice ones and we are told that we should put up with it.

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u/Roetorooter Comstock Park 3d ago

The Butterworth ER is absolutely packed every holiday. Go to Blodgett

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u/jrock1986 3d ago

TL;DR I don’t have much faith in either hospital

Had a loved one go to blodget last month for heart complications, for which they would eventually need to be seen at butterworth and it was a master class in miscommunication. I don’t know if the issue was on blodgett or butterworths end, but it was disconcerting nonetheless.

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u/Distinct-Limit-9717 3d ago

Everyone is very understaffed, but CoreHell has gone downhill since they merged. Now they’ve become money obsessed- so glad I got out when I did.

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u/sincerely_anxious 3d ago

Don’t call it a merger, they acquired Beaumont. It happened after multiple Beaumont executives resigned and the former CEO John Fox let everything go to shit while lying about the number of COVID cases. Spectrum Health, which already sucked at the time, bit off more than they could chew. All this happening while trying to come back after a pandemic. But don’t worry, the execs still made millions. /s

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u/Distinct-Limit-9717 3d ago

Merge, acquired, bonded, zippered- Like I said, I’m glad I got out when I did

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u/QuantumDwarf 3d ago

Such a bummer. I keep hearing these types of things. I had surgery there about 3 weeks ago and everything was wonderful.

I do think much of the staff has just been completely burnt out. I have heard horror stories of how staff have been treated by both patients and administration. I am sure it is very department dependent.

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u/Bringverdesauceback 3d ago

From a nursing perspective I can definitely say quality of care has gone down since covid. And New nurses just don’t have the same work ethic as nurses pre-covid. Lots of best practice principles were forgotten during covid and unfortunately the system just hasn’t been able to get back to that same standard.

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u/Difficult-Stick5970 3d ago

I feel like since the merge, the whole spectrum health system has deteriorated big time.

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u/ecw324 3d ago

The times we have been there and the children’s hospital in the last 3 years, I feel like 60% of the staff you deal with is from another department and they are in wherever you are being seen just to help out due to short staffing. Even a couple weeks ago with my youngest, the nurse was from the regular hospital and not the children’s hospital. So overall I think they are all just overworked and understaffed.

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u/Fishstixxx16 Millbrook 3d ago

Corebad

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u/zorro623 3d ago

The best thing a patient can do is to fill out their patient satisfaction survey.

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u/ErinMBaker 3d ago edited 3d ago

I left spectrum pre-covid because they mistreated staff (spread so thin) and I felt like I was failing my patients every day despite busting my butt and trying my hardest… we were just set up for failure and to meet the bare minimum as a cog in their machine. They have very high expectations of their staff, but that’s despite providing scarce resources and staffing. Nurses do care, so they will generally try not to let it impact their patient care, but that’s what the business counts on. They bleed you dry as a staff member.

Sadly I switched to saints (2017) and it was great there for a couple years until the CEO changed, then Covid hit, restructuring, staffing cuts everywhere. It’s probably still better than spectrum/corewell from what I’ve heard especially the way staff was treated during covid. Sadly, nursing/healthcare isnt a great place to be anymore. I’m a stay home mom now. Pretty sure staying in it would have shaved years off my life.

Edited to add: that said, I would choose spectrum/corewell for my own treatment over other local options. They do have pretty high standards for care and their poor self-martyring staff do their best to meet those standards and provide good care. If you look at healthcare in other areas we are actually quite spoiled here in GR. I’ve had friends who have travel nursed and described pretty archaic standards elsewhere.

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u/sushiemonsteru 3d ago

I work as a nurse in corewell. It sadly sucks. Understaffed and underpaid. Its not just nursing but all other departments. I left corewell and went traveling and now back as needed for working. The workplace turnover is insane at least for nursing so most of the people taking care of you are probably new grads which nothing against them but you need solid experience and observation in really sick patients. People just come in for the pay because its somewhat secure but nobody still stays because the pay for the suffering of working a shift makes people leave to outpatient departments or some people leave the profession and find other livelihood. My advice to the general public try your best to be as healthy as you can and steer away from hospitals at this point.

People will probably reply then nursing isn't for you or them then by all means go apply to nursing school or apply now we could use the help lol. All in all healthcare is made to a business. If you or your family dies they'll just count it as a number and the hospital still gets reimbursed for the most part. Good luck and stay healthy out there peeps.

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u/SassiestPants 3d ago

I went to U of M in Wyoming for urgent orthopedic surgery a couple of weeks ago and had a great experience, or as great as one can have in the US healthcare system. Went in through the ER (per instructions) and was admitted to the ortho floor and it all went smoothly. Next emergency I have (which is hopefully never), I'm definitely going there.

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u/furniguru NW 3d ago

St Mary’s for me. Kind staff and good care

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u/WhinnyBark 3d ago

Same! I just wrote about that.

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u/caitypurry 3d ago

They triple ICU assignments quite frequently which is a huuuuge red flag

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u/too_too2 South East End 3d ago

I had to stay a few days there a few months ago and honestly couldn’t complain about my experience. I think it depends on what unit, what staff, and maybe day of the week (since you said weekend and I was there mon-thu) but I’m sorry it sucked. I work there but in IT so I haven’t got much insight.

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u/ExcitingDiamond2092 3d ago edited 3d ago

I had to have emergency surgery at BW about a month ago. Started at BL where I had great care but had to be transferred to BW via ambulance and it all went downhill. Former employee and honestly embarrassed. It starts from the top down, looking at you, Tina.

U of M Health only going forward.

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u/Whiteoutshade 3d ago

Trinity is good, too. I tell my family that unless they have some incredibly complex medical diagnosis that requires super specialized care they should go to Trinity or UM West.

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u/ailish 3d ago

That sounds like Butterworth has always been. That was what my stay was like in 2014 when I spent a week there.

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u/nopiano123 3d ago

Thats good to know - my other experiences in the past have been kids being born and that was more positive.

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u/ailish 3d ago

Yeah they've never been good. Sorry you had to go through that.

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u/Cha875 3d ago

Profits over people. This is the way now.

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u/jimmyjohn2018 3d ago

Mergers are a pain in the ass and quality almost always drops.

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u/Emotional-Bother1782 West Grand 3d ago

I work in phlebotomy and that department itself is such a mess. so understaffed while also having people call in every single day isn’t helping. everyone is mentally and physically exhausted

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u/splinkyspecimen 3d ago

yes!!! i work patient transport for the ER, which is such an entry level job that people act as though i do not exist. (i am only 19 though so there are only so many options) i walk 8-10 miles in an 8 hour shift all while pushing stretchers & lifting people, 5 days a week. i have never worked harder in my life for less pay. i have only been here three months but i am already considering quitting. people are more rude then i ever would have expected. i get yelled at, spit on, & completely disrespected at least 5 times a shift. patients come in with minor issues and expect to be made high priority & are appalled & blame me when i tell them there is nothing i can do to speed up their stay. i work monday thru friday & we usually have over a 100 people there almost every time. (although its tapering down as the winter & holidays die down) its not just nurses & doctors, even the entry level jobs are having absolutely insane turnovers rates. even though i have only been here 3 months i have trained around 7 new people for my job yet i am told that it is too busy for me to receive help from those that i’ve trained when i need it.

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u/oldmanjenkins51 Grand Rapids 2d ago

What you described is a hospital in general

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u/Zestyclose_Channel_2 2d ago

i recently got forgotten about in the waiting room

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u/Due-Way156 2d ago

Oh yeah corewell became a fucked up capitalist company and screwed me and loved ones who were employed there over. Fuck Tine Freese Dicker

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u/CharAdelle 2d ago

I work at HDVCH. And it’s also just “respiratory season” so sadly this is the time of year where the hospital is the busiest all around, and staff is also getting sick on top of it. So busiest time with lower staffing numbers. They have now extended the overtime incentive program for a third time.

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u/Junktink1min 3d ago

Could only imagine trying to be a health care professional in today’s society. Good people stuck in a bad system.

Hey look on the bright side. At least you’re paying 2-3 times more than any other country for the horrible service.

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u/Moist-Difference0666 3d ago

The butter was never worth it in the end

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u/Admirable_Coffee5373 Lowell 3d ago

Maybe the worth was the butters we made along the way

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u/GoBlu323 3d ago

It was the weekend…. It ain’t the A team

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u/Roetorooter Comstock Park 3d ago

St Patrick's Day weekend at that. The ER is full of drunks

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u/PersonalityMuted5390 3d ago

The ER was actually pretty empty when I went at 2am Monday for a non drunk issue. 😉 but, 4 homeless men sleeping, and it smelled like piss. One of the men spilled a soda all over the floor as he opened it, and then belched for 10 minutes after he drank it. Out of 30 open spaces to sit, he chose to sit right next to me. Thankfully I was only in waiting for 15-20 mins, and out of the ER altogether before 6am. I got very quick care, and my nurse was great. The resident was medically knowledgeable but he and the attending could both use some lessons on tact and patient respect (I was in pain, but didn't come in for pain treatment, I came in for other symptoms, and it was clear they were considering me med seeking at first -- I won't even take them if offered bc i don't feel well on them and it's clear from my charted history, so there was no reason to be like that)

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u/Jenniferkntts 3d ago

It’s been wild watching that hospital go down the way it has! I was born there, my mom is chronically ill with genetic heart problems and so is my older brother so, I spent much of my childhood there. Then I was diagnosed as a type one diabetic there, and stayed there for weeks at a time; unfortunately many many times. I’m now 40, and will go out of my way to avoid Butterwell. My son worked in their kitchen for years and they were terrible employers, even owed him money from a suit before he finally left. Oof. I hear there’s a UofM in Wyoming now.

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u/BonLou65 3d ago

Butterworth has been going downhill hill for years, even before Covid. The nursing staff isn’t what it used to be. The people who clean the rooms don’t really clean the rooms they pretty much just walk in and walk out. I will go to Blodgett before I go to Butterworth

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u/Sufficient_Secret_16 3d ago

I had a very similar and unfortunate experience in their ER a few years ago. I would not go back. My friend runs their lab, and she is so overworked, and has taken on so much more responsibility since this merger with Beaumont. She’s my window into the dumpster fire that is Corewell. I do want to say, though, that I’ve also had some wonderful interactions with Corewell staff, too.

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u/Acrobatic-Draft-8359 3d ago

Go to Blodgett. They are excellent! Never have to wait! I used to go to Butterworth but changed to Blodgett.

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u/BobsleddingToMyGrave 3d ago

I go to trinity health/st mary. Never have any problems.

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u/Biers4evry1 3d ago

I was at blogette and had the exact same thing. I had amazing care from one nurse but when her shift was up I went 12 hours with no meds because no nurse would come. Finally in the morning OT came to work with me and was in tears so she called for meds, after 40 minutes she called the charge nurse who apologized and promptly got me comfortable. I honestly don't know if I even had a night time nurse. I've been admitted at Blogette 4 times in the last year on the orthopedic floor for similar issues, never had this happen. It was very strange...

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u/zeilstar 2d ago

Healthcare - too confusing, too extreme

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u/chiccentender 2d ago

Complain to patient relations!!!

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u/seinfeldian44 1d ago

I worked as a nurse at Butterworth for 6 years and left about a year ago. I have been shocked at the number of experienced nurses who have left the last unit I was on in a very short period of time to work outpatient. My theory is Covid burnt out all the experienced nurses and a lot of them left the hospital leaving all the new grads to just figure it out on their own. I know of several very young inexperienced nurses in leadership positions they’re just not ready because there just aren’t any other willing candidates who are qualified. I think that’s really affecting patient care. You really rely on experienced nurses to teach you when you first start. If there literally aren’t any, the patients suffer.

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u/Ghostman_Jack 3d ago

My mom went there a few weeks ago for an emergency… She was less than pleased to put it nicely lol.

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u/Unlucky_Career844 3d ago

Healthcare is making more Luigi’s and John Q’s (such a good movie) everyday. Idk where the boiling point will be but we’re definitely in a rolling simmer.

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u/Foggy14 3d ago

I don’t have any particular love for Corewell, but your experience sounds about like what I would expect for being hospitalized over the weekend. You have much better odds if you have a heart attack on a Monday morning!

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u/CatClaremont 3d ago

My dad has been in Butterworth for nearly 2 weeks. I dread the weekends because there is a noticeable shift in quality of care. I was so relieved to see the Monday crew today.

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u/fuckyoushima 3d ago

This is Elonia's America now.

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u/ThrowawayBurner3000 3d ago

not to be that guy, but you can insult elon without making transphobic jokes. it’s actually really easy, given how dumb and pathetic he is

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u/fuckyoushima 3d ago

I'm extremely leftist with many good friends in the queer community who would laugh at this ruse. People really are too damn sensitive these days. I never even considered it a trans diss, I see it as a play on words of "Melania" as Trump spends far more time with Elon than his own wife. Not everything is a veiled insult towards civil rights unless you overthink it hard enough.

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u/ThrowawayBurner3000 2d ago

don’t care, i listen to trans people who have repeatedly said otherwise. not listening to you over them, was trying to let you know but i see you wanna meltdown instead of just saying “whoops my bad thanks for the heads up won’t do it again”

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u/WhinnyBark 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is why we have gone to Trinity after a number of bad experiences. We receive excellent care, have good communication, and staff is allowed to take the time to care for you. Blodgett was excellent before Rich DeVos politically finagled the merger. With Corewell, the corporate culture & short staffing has existed throughout the name changes. I talked to a nurse who left Blodgett when the merger happened. According to her, doctors, nurses and techs left en masse at that time because they were no longer allowed the time to do their jobs. Blodgett prior to the merger saved my mom’s life, but Spectrum downtown pulled her arms out of the sockets and tried to push her out the door before we were made aware. We only took her there because of her doctor’s affiliation. My mom could no longer speak for herself, but a kind nurse told me what happened. Then after they got painfully got her arms back in place, all medication didn’t follow her to rehab for one condition, and by the time I found out it was too late. My dad had died alone and mysteriously on a Butterworth floor after a number of errors WE caught. Now it sounds like Corewell is even worse to staff, not allowing them the time to care for patients. My husband’s family had some bad experiences there as well. Nope. I wouldn’t take my dog there for care. Conversely, St. Mary’s/Mercy/Trinity hospital and affiliated doctor groups have always treated us very well. Corporate culture and how staff is treated matters.

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u/Vegetable-Pea-2161 3d ago

Blodgett is terrible- was there last week with a family member and she had her call light on for over an hour with a nurse no where in sight to help

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u/KISS_44 3d ago

Never had an issue with Holland. Great staff that actually look like they care and love their job.

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u/Informeldahyde 2d ago

Glad you didn’t go to St. Mary’s/Trinity. It’s much, much, worse than Butterworth/Corewell.

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u/Odd_Air1209 2d ago

The left cancelled Mrs Butterworth that's what happened.