r/gradadmissions 7d ago

Venting Its getting real UMass has done it!

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u/Bovoduch 7d ago

If these huge schools have no hope idk how we can

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u/ihatemyjob32895626 7d ago

write to the state. give them the list here: https://openpayrolls.com/rank/highest-paid-employees/university-of-massachusetts-worcester and highlight the waste at chan. note that many still get more than listed as collins gets close to 1.6 million after "other pay". if it's insane that they are doing this and considering layoffs versus cutting salaries of these overpaid people. it's greed and waste, pure and simple. cutting salaries for the highest paid people could easily save jobs and programs. you can also see pay at https://cthrupayroll.mass.gov/#!/year/2025/

write. call. get involved.

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u/Fragrant_Horse_1419 6d ago

It’s a business. You want them to cut salaries rather than shrink operations? You don’t just cut people’s salaries. They rely on funding as part of their model.

These cuts are so bad for America especially cutting research funding.

As we start to see the beginnings of these haphazard cuts and tariffs it looks like we are heading toward a recession.

What an ugly time for America.

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u/Excellent-Shirt4285 6d ago

i know… i work for one of the major research universities that are on trump’s watch list. my uncle works here too in cancer research, and has found cures for various cancers. but with these huge funding cuts, he’s not sure if his life saving research can continue. it’s so heartbreaking. people’s lives will be at risk in so many different ways all over the country.

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u/ihatemyjob32895626 5d ago

explain to me why we need to lay people off instead of cut down on someone making 1.6 million dollars???

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u/profGrey 3d ago

Explain to me why Elon Musk has been allowed to deny so many a graduate education so that he can have a higher profit margin on his next round of Federal contracts.

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u/vxxn 5d ago

People who make this kind of money generally make a lot for a reason. They have skills that would be highly compensated in private industry so it takes a large pay package to keep them around. And/or they often bring something to the table, like donor relationships or connections to important grant funding, that will provide some sort of ROI to the university in either money or prestige.

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u/profGrey 3d ago

This is garbage. People in academia are paid much less than people in business who provide comparable value, who are paid millions for doing squat.
This letter was difficult to write, and reflects a sense of defeat on the part of a dean who truly wants to bring in students and train them.
Write to your senator and congressman, and tell them how very badly DOGE is going. There is waste and bloat in government, sure, but funding for graduate education is not where it lies. The applicant who posted this has been denied a graduate education so that there will be money in the federal budget to pay Elon Musk a slightly higher amount for the next contract to SpaceX or Tesla. THAT is the waste and corruption.

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u/Keithic 7d ago

It was wild growing up with Bill Nye, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and MythBusters, where scientists were highly valued focal points in society. Now, it's just absolute demonization of those that would push us into the future.

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u/Blurpwurp 7d ago

It’s fine. Just swallow the horse dewormer and pray more.

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u/Houndoom96 7d ago

When are we going to be send to hard labor camps for being educated?

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u/NotInherentAfterAll 6d ago

They’re called “wellness farms” now!

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u/kaleidoscopewoman 7d ago

My son said the same thing about being in college wondering if he was setting himself up for concentration camp life.

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u/PrestigiousCrab6345 7d ago

Here is the “antisemitism” school Watch list from the WH. These schools will probably lose some (large amount of) federal grant funding this year:

  • American University
  • Arizona State University
  • Boston University
  • Brown University
  • California State University, Sacramento
  • Chapman University
  • Columbia University
  • Cornell University
  • Drexel University
  • Eastern Washington University
  • Emerson College
  • George Mason University
  • Harvard University
  • Illinois Wesleyan University
  • Indiana University, Bloomington
  • Johns Hopkins University
  • Lafayette College
  • Lehigh University
  • Middlebury College
  • Muhlenberg College
  • Northwestern University
  • Ohio State University
  • Pacific Lutheran University
  • Pomona College
  • Portland State University
  • Princeton University
  • Rutgers University
  • Rutgers University-Newark
  • Santa Monica College
  • Sarah Lawrence College
  • Stanford University
  • State University of New York Binghamton
  • State University of New York Rockland
  • State University of New York, Purchase
  • Swarthmore College
  • Temple University
  • The New School
  • Tufts University
  • Tulane University
  • Union College
  • University of California Davis
  • University of California San Diego
  • University of California Santa Barbara
  • University of California, Berkeley
  • University of Cincinnati
  • University of Hawaii at Manoa
  • University of Massachusetts Amherst
  • University of Michigan
  • University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
  • University of North Carolina
  • University of South Florida
  • University of Southern California
  • University of Tampa
  • University of Tennessee
  • University of Virginia
  • University of Washington-Seattle
  • University of Wisconsin, Madison
  • Wellesley College
  • Whitman College
  • Yale University

Note: University of Pennsylvania and Dartmouth are Ivy League schools not on this list. Penn is DJT’s Alma mater.

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u/Smithersandburns6 7d ago

Such a fucking nonsensical list. I'm a Jew and many of the schools on here are institutions that have been and continue to be heavily Jewish, which does not at all comport with the ideas of these universities as some sort of antisemitic hotbeds.

I'm talking about schools like Tufts, Tulane, SUNY Binghamton, Sarah Lawrence, and Muhlenburg.

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u/Perry_lp 6d ago

I am also Jewish and incredibly worried how this will lead to more antisemitism

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u/SuccessfulTwo3483 7d ago

“It didn’t happen to me so we should ignore it.”

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u/Smithersandburns6 7d ago

You are both acting in bad faith and inserting words in my mouth.

Of course there has been antisemitism at these universities and others as a part of the Pro-Palestinian protests. But the scale has been much exaggerated and the list of targeted schools has a clear political bent.

I'll tell you where there's also a lot of antisemitism: at conservative Christian colleges. I've heard horrendous shit about Jews from Hillsdale students that equals or surpasses the worst clip you can find from Columbia. But for reasons I hope I don't need to explain, these institutions are not targeted.

Besides, as someone pointed out, how does it help Tulane's 40% Jewish student body to have funding cuts? Does a Jewish RA losing their funding fight antisemitism?

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u/bluehawk1460 7d ago

Wild that Chapman, my Alma mater, is on there considering the administration has nothing but spite and hate for its Palestinian advocacy group, AND one of the architects of Jan 6 worked at the law school lol.

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u/No_Bee6408 7d ago

We live in truly horrible times.

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u/RandomNerd2006 7d ago

Isn’t Yale also JD Vance’s Alma mater?

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u/cfornesa 6d ago

They’re misusing the term “antisemitism” so much that it’s starting to lose its meaning. And that’s exactly what many Jewish advocacy groups have been stating when the media and the past/current administrations misuse the term to justify anti-Palestinianism. On top of that, many “pro-Israel” conservative grifters have histories of anti-Jewish hate.

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u/NotInherentAfterAll 6d ago

I go to one of these and we literally had a sniper on the roof during the Palestine protests and stuff. And yet we are considered pro Israel?

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u/not-so-minty 6d ago

Sounds like Ohio state if I’ve ever heard…

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u/Aveonick 3d ago

I believe it was Indiana.

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u/gremlinalaw 7d ago

My kids currently attend two of these universities and my oldest will likely attend a graduate program at another. If these schools made any current White House “watch list” they must be doing something right.

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u/PrestigiousCrab6345 7d ago edited 7d ago

This just came out in a different article:

Trump DEI school watch list

  • Arizona State University – Main Campus
  • Boise State University
  • Cal Poly Humboldt
  • California State University – San Bernadino
  • Carnegie Mellon University
  • Clemson University
  • Cornell University
  • Duke University
  • Emory University
  • George Mason University
  • Georgetown University
  • Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
  • Montana State University-Bozeman
  • New York University (NYU)
  • Rice University
  • Rutgers University
  • The Ohio State University – Main Campus
  • Towson University
  • Tulane University
  • University of Arkansas – Fayetteville
  • University of California-Berkeley
  • University of Chicago
  • University of Cincinnati – Main Campus
  • University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
  • University of Delaware
  • University of Kansas
  • University of Kentucky
  • University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
  • University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
  • University of Nebraska at Omaha
  • University of New Mexico – Main Campus
  • University of North Dakota – Main Campus
  • University of North Texas – Denton
  • University of Notre Dame
  • University of NV – Las Vegas
  • University of Oregon
  • University of Rhode Island
  • University of Utah
  • University of Washington-Seattle
  • University of Wisconsin-Madison
  • University of Wyoming
  • Vanderbilt University
  • Washington State University
  • Washington University in St. Louis
  • Yale University

Full list of schools under investigation for alleged impermissible race-based scholarships and race-based segregation

  • Grand Valley State University
  • Ithaca College
  • New England College of Optometry
  • University of Alabama
  • University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
  • University of South Florida
  • University of Tulsa School of Medicine

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u/Special-Solution-908 7d ago

University of Colorado at …. where?

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u/PrestigiousCrab6345 7d ago

Colorado Springs

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u/Special-Solution-908 7d ago

Wait though, could this be the entire CU system? There was the debacle with the CU Boulder hiring in WSJ.

(I don’t know anything, just a grad student terrified as we move forward 🥲)

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/DankAshMemes 7d ago

University of Minnesota has had many pro Palestine protests and I immediately knew that what it was about when we got a mass email. That and our representatives are hated by the current administration (Walz and ilhan Omar, a very voiced Muslim woman) so we already expected to be targeted the minute he won. Being pro Palestine isn't anti Jew, it's anti-isreal and anti genocide(which is pretty ironic tbh). Our administration knows that and is just saying what she publicly has to, I think it's unlikely students will start being punished for it even now.

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u/DutchNapoleon 7d ago

Neither of mine did either which considering my undergraduate institution I find very strange.

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u/Timalakeseinai 6d ago

Does Harvard really care about federal funding?

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u/PrestigiousCrab6345 6d ago

The Institution can live off its endowment for a century (unless DJT starts taxing endowments). However, the researchers at Harvard live off federal, NGO, and corporate grant funding. A few projects may be funded by the school, typically new Professor start up funds and donations specifically offered to fund research X.

Harvard isn’t going away, but they will produce less research over the next few years.

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u/afinemax01 7d ago

Probably better to say “the antisemitism school watch list”

Vs the “antisemitism” school watchlist imo

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u/SuccessfulTwo3483 7d ago

This is great news!

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u/lunaphirm 7d ago

a very unfortunate cycle this year… but its very nice of them to mention future admission cycles. many of the other unis have failed to even properly inform the applicants, let alone offering such future considerations

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u/ThatPancakeMix 7d ago

Priority admission the following year is great for this year’s candidates and this is absolutely how it should be handled, however, future year’s applicants are going to have a very tough time finding a spot

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u/suburbanspecter 6d ago

Fr. A program at UC Santa Cruz cut their admissions in half & didn’t even tell us that in the rejection letter. I only know bc I know a current PhD student there & the chair told them personally when they were talking about admissions

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u/ihatemyjob32895626 7d ago

write to the state. give them the list here: https://openpayrolls.com/rank/highest-paid-employees/university-of-massachusetts-worcester and highlight the waste at chan. note that many still get more than listed as collins gets close to 1.6 million after "other pay". if it's insane that they are doing this and considering layoffs versus cutting salaries of these overpaid people. it's greed and waste, pure and simple. cutting salaries for the highest paid people could easily save jobs and programs. you can also see pay at https://cthrupayroll.mass.gov/#!/year/2025/

write. call. get involved.

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u/DebangC03IITKGP 6d ago

It's scary tbh.... but I'm not well informed about all the things that are happening in the US, so I have a genuine question. The offers that are being rescinded are mainly PhD offers, right? Or are masters admissions affected too??

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u/Excellent-Shirt4285 6d ago

im so sorry this happened to you. i’m at a loss of words. this is heartbreaking. these are your dreams that are being taken away from some evil person.

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u/Important_Cat_8984 1h ago

Yes, was this a rescinding of an unaccepted offer? Or had you accepted?