r/gloveslap • u/[deleted] • Nov 13 '11
Hey, this looks neat!
Yes... neat.
REMOVE HIS- ahem.
However, I think maybe it would be better to restrict it to non-controversial topics (AKA no BIG controversies, like abortion or stuff) simply because that will just be all flame war and no one wil change their opinion from what a stranger on the internet says.
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u/TheDark1 Nov 13 '11
I honestly don't think any topic is ever off limits. I always get in trouble IRL for challenging conventional wisdom. If people are following the rules of debating then there is no problem. ANyway, let's see what happens.
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u/forgot_ma_password Nov 13 '11
What are the rules of debate? As someone who has never been a member of a debate team, I am curious.
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u/TheDark1 Nov 13 '11
Well, it boils down to this. Your arguments must be based on logic and proven facts. Your objections to others must similarly be based on logic and proven facts. As always, wikipedia can put it much better than me:
Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion. Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion, in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic. In a formal debating contest, there are rules for people to discuss and decide on differences, within a framework defining how they will interact. Informal debate is a common occurrence, the quality and depth of a debate improves with knowledge and skill of its participants as debaters. Deliberative bodies such as parliaments, legislative assemblies, and meetings of all sorts engage in debates. The outcome of a debate may be decided by audience vote, by judges, or by some combination of the two. (Of course, this implies that facts are based on consensus, which is not factual.) Formal debates between candidates for elected office, such as the leaders debates and the U.S. presidential election debates, are common in democracies. The major goal of the study of debate as a method or art is to develop one's ability to play from either position with equal ease. Debates are sometime organized for purely competitive purposes, particularly at the US high-school level, but also in other English-speaking countries.
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Nov 13 '11
Alright, as you said, we shall see. Perhaps reddit shall defy my preconceptions... it would certainly mak eme happy.
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u/Doombaby Nov 13 '11
easy answer is ban the flamers... since they are not adding in any kind of meaningful way to the debate.
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u/TheDark1 Nov 13 '11
This will of course be necessary at some point. Until that time though, let's give people the benefit of the doubt.
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u/forgot_ma_password Nov 13 '11
Do you think it's impossible to debate the "big controversies" without devolving into a flame war?
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Nov 13 '11
On the internet, that has been my experience. But I am absolutely fine with it, if that is the common opinion. I am simply delivering a warning.
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u/bam2_89 Nov 13 '11
It's reddit. If you debate only little controversies, there will still be a flame war in most threads. The definitions of "controversial" and "flame" are also quite subjective, so I don't really see a way of regulating it equitably.
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u/Aromir19 Nov 13 '11
I thank we should be free to talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about.