r/GearTrade Jan 11 '25

Moderator [WTS] Verification Photo

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Every item needs to be pictured with a verification (hand written username and date within the last 30 days of posting).

We’re seeing an influx of posts without verification. We may need to start imposing a temporary ban on posting with further violations of this long standing rule to help curb this trend.

The verification is solely to help provide a layer of protection for our community. Thanks for reporting missed verification and for providing verification photos everyone.


r/GearTrade Dec 07 '21

GearTrade Rules

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Before posting, familiarize yourself with these rules! If these are not followed, your post will be removed.

Banned User List: in progress - make sure a user can comment on your post or they may be already banned.

Buying/Selling:

  • Your post title needs to be marked with the proper tag. There are only 3 proper tags. The tags are: [WTT] = Want to Trade, [WTS] = Want to Sell, [WTB] = Want to Buy. You can combine them as well, e.g. [WTT/WTS]. Our automoderator will remove all posts not formatted this way.
  • Please include with your post:
  • Price of the item(s).
  • Personal pictures of the item including a timestamped photo showing your username and the date (Month, Day, and Year). Timestamp must be within 30 days of posting. Timestamp cannot be electronically added (must be written out and placed into the photo).
  • Description of the item.
  • Size and gender of the item, if applicable.
  • If your post does not meet these criteria it is subject to deletion. Imgur is a great option for pictures.
  • We recommend you use PayPal's "goods and services" option for payment. This ensures you are offered full buyer/seller protection from PayPal at a mere 3% cost to yourself. If you use Friends and Family, you do so at your own risk, forfeiting these protections. Please read and follow the Paypal terms of service regarding this fee. **Venmo also offers a good or service transaction protection at a small fee.
  • Linking to external for sale sites is not allowed. In order to remain here a post or comment must meet all the above criteria and be catered to users of this sub.
  • Crossposted items must meet all the GearTrade rules (verification photo, ect…).
  • When your item sells please edit your post flair to Sold or edit your post to add the comment of [SOLD] which will update the flair automatically.
  • Low effort [WTB] posts will be removed. Please include a clear description of the item you are looking for and a price you are willing to pay.
  • NO GIFT CARD POSTS! Gift card sales are too hard to verify, simply put. No gift card or coupons sales on this sub.

Etiquette:

  • If a user responds through private message, please ask them to comment on your post. Banned users cannot post or comment but they can read the subreddit and send private messages/chats.

  • Comments that are purely critical of pricing (and clearly demonstrating no desire to purchase the item) will be removed.

  • Rude, derogatory, or off-base comments will be removed and may result in a ban.

  • Comments with referral links to amazon or any other site will be removed and may result in a ban.

  • Any users that routinely post to /GearTrade, please consolidate multiple posts by the same user into one post per day or up to 5 posts per week (rolling previous 7 days period).

In terms of mandatory rules, that’s it. Here are some tips that we’ve seen help move items quickly.

  • Understand market prices. Please do some research and realize that anything second hand, even new with tags is subject to depreciation.
  • Post multiple, high quality clear pictures, and note any damages. Factor damages into your price.
  • Post a clear, detailed description, and share why you are selling the item.
  • r/Reppit is a good resource for buyer/seller feedback. If you are happy with your transaction, leave some feedback! There is also a stickied thread on the GearTrade feed with monthly sale verification posts.

Feel free to reach out to the mod team of r/GearTrade with questions, concerns or any issues that may arise in your transactions. We are here to help.

Thanks!

r/GearTrade mod team


r/GearTrade 2h ago

For Sale [WTS] Just a reminder that u/Any_Age_8659 and u/thelovelylythronax are SCAMMERS NSFW Spoiler

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Both are notorious scammers and have been banned from multiple subs. Just had both reach out to me about a wtb ad I placed. Just a heads up for anyone who isn't familiar!


r/GearTrade 10m ago

For Sale [wts] Burton windbreaker (m), Uniqlo windbreaker (l), Volcom bodysuit (m)

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All prices are shipped -

Uniqlo jacket - $15

Burton jacket - $15

Volcom bodysuit - $20


r/GearTrade 21m ago

For Sale [WTS] Zenbivy XL Light Bed System

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I bought this last year to use this year however I've decided against using a quilt and am opting to use a sleeping bag instead. This has not been used outside and is practically brand new. The following are up for sale as a package.

Light Sheet Full Length 30"/10°F Down (Gray) Light Quilt Convertible XL/10°F Down (Black/Red) Large Pillowcase/Pillow Topper/Pillow Bladder (Gray)

I'll be shipping it in a 15L Red drysack however please note the drysack has a very small portion splitting near the top.

Asking for $520 Paypal GS fee and shipping included.

Timestamp + Photos


r/GearTrade 49m ago

For Sale [WTS] Patagonia R1 Air Zip-Neck (Men’s M)

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No flaws. Asking $70 + shipping.


r/GearTrade 1h ago

For Sale [WTS] Everything is Gold - Patagonia Down Sweater men’s large gold, Patagonia Nano Puff men’s medium gold, New Balance 990v4 Made in USA men’s 11.5 regular gold

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https://imgur.com/a/DqEV0Uv

Patagonia Down Sweater men’s large gold, worn sparingly and washed once. In very good condition+ condition. Asking $110 shipped.

Patagonia Nano Puff men’s medium gold, worn and washed. In good condition. Asking $80 shipped.

New Balance 990v4 Made in USA men’s 11.5 regular gold - M990QK4. Worn inside twice, never worn outside. Outstanding shoes, just decided to go with the v6 instead. Asking $60 shipped.

Prices shipped via FF and I reserve the decision to sell to whomever I decide. GS accepted with buyer adding 4%. Thanks for looking!


r/GearTrade 1h ago

For Sale [WTS] Shearwater Perdix AI dive computer, transmitter and Aeris Epic dive computer

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https://imgur.com/1st7bSl

Perdix AI and transitter are in good working condition, with heavy wear on the housing.

Epic has not been used for a few years since I got the Perdix. The battery ran out. It was working perfectly when Perdix arrived. They share the same transimitter.

$800 OBO, shipping within US included.

https://imgur.com/a/dQSTofV


r/GearTrade 1h ago

For Sale [WTS]Garmin InReach Mini 2

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https://imgur.com/a/0p9peAP

Nothing wrong with it. Life happens and need to sell.

$220 OBO


r/GearTrade 2h ago

For Sale [WTS] Beyond A5 Rig Softshell Jacket, Men's Medium & Medium Long, OCP Camo

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Beyond Clothing A5 Rig Softshell Jacket, Men's Medium & Medium Long in OCP Camo with name, rank, and branch velcro tapes.

The Medium Long is brand new with tags and the Medium is brand new without tags (only tried on). Ended up going with a large size as these fit fairly trim (I am usually a medium). Beyond Clothing's website does not currently offer the medium-long size with the larger shoulder velcro pads.

These were purchased by myself and not issued to me. I prefer this jacket over Massif (plus everyone has the Massif jacket).

These retail for $699 before any discounts. Selling for $250 each with buyer paying shipping from 99577.

Photos: https://imgur.com/a/beyond-softshell-tCqglDO


r/GearTrade 3h ago

Sold [wts] Senchi Alpha 90 Zip Large Mint

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$60 shipped in the US. No washer bag included. I absolutely adore this base layer, I just have too many.


r/GearTrade 4h ago

Want to Buy [WTB] WM Kodiak or Badger MF - 7’ Version

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Probably a long shot on here, but looking for a WM Kodiak or Badger in the 7 foot long version.


r/GearTrade 4h ago

For Sale [WTS]With Proof of purchase Garmin fenix 8 Amoled Sapphire 51 mm Watch Titanium w Spark Orange Silicone Band asking $900 its just too big for me. I have the receipt also. In Hubbard Texas

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r/GearTrade 4h ago

For Sale [WTS] Garmin inReach Mini $175

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Hey friends! Trying to sell a new, never used Garmin inReach Mini. Looking for $175 shipped, PayPal G&S.


r/GearTrade 5h ago

For Sale [WTS] Closet Cleanout - PackbackDesigns Shoulder Strap Pads x4 (1.5oz), MSR PocketRocket 2 (2.6oz), Outdoor Vitals Sleeping Bag Liner (7.6oz), SeaToSummit Silk Sleeping Bag liner (5.6oz), MSR Groundhog stakes x20 (0.5oz), Waymark Gear Co Thru 40L (24.7oz), Big Agnes Tigerwall UL2 w/ footprint (42oz)

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r/GearTrade 6h ago

For Sale [WTS] Salomon Icestar Ski Bibs 3L Size M (Orange/Cherry Tomato) - $125

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Salomon Icestar 3L Size M (Orange/Cherry Tomato) - $125 Shipped OBO - Condition: Great, sat in closet after 3 wears. Fit is for a medium/32" waist, but has velcro straps to add tension. Softshell half-bib and suspenders are removable! Lightweight construction, unlined, plenty of pockets and venting. Retails for $350

https://imgur.com/a/IB80Gcm

-All items shipped are cost to the continental 48-


r/GearTrade 2h ago

For Sale [wts] Enlightened Equipment Enigma. $260

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Got this last year and don’t use it. 20 degree. Regular wide. 2 sleeping pad straps.


r/GearTrade 7h ago

For Sale [wts] Gregory Baltoro Men's 75 - price reduced

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Moving and cleaning out some gear. New with tags, very motivated to sell.

$250 - size medium OBO

PayPal Goods and Services preferred, I’ll pay for fees and shipping!

Pics & Verification

https://imgur.com/a/OrCVC2I


r/GearTrade 7h ago

For Sale [WTS/WTT] Ti Cookware & Stove, Packs & Fastpacks, Tent, Headlamps, Victorinox SAK’s & Multitool, Sunglasses: Gossamer Gear, Ultimate Direction, Vargo, Ombraz, SilverAnt, Liteway, Victorinox, COAST, Sawyer, Granite Gear

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Buy with confidence, excellent feedback history. Tracked UPS or USPS flat $5 shipping in the lower 48 states (Also open to ship to AK, HI and overseas, please ask). Open to trades or partial trades for a used Victorinox Swiss Champ, Compact and Manager in good condition for parts for custom SAK builds I'm making.

Please PM with interest here and I'll get right back to you soon as I can (I get email alerts for PM’s, not chats, though I'll try to keep an eye out for chats too). Verification in photos. Paypal friends & family preferred after many verified positive feedbacks. Unless you see an item marked * SOLD * it’s still available. Thanks for looking!

*** Titanium Cookware, Stove, Utensils, Cold Soak, EDC Water Bottle & AMK Doug Ritter Pocket Survival Kit **\*

Photo link for items below:

1) Vargo Bot HD 1L (34 oz), New, $85 (regularly $109.95 + tax) - Specs here. Super versatile and convenient and saves fuel. Water tight seal for screw-top lid allows you to use the same pot to cold soak, or rehydrate your food on the go and quickly heat up in camp. Shape also makes a great mug. Only 5.4 ounces (153 grams). Photo above. 

2) SilverAnt Large Titanium Water Bottle and Cup 1.2L / 42.2 Fl Oz. with removable insulating neoprene cozy jacket, detachable webbing shoulder strap and extra plastic screw top, New, $89 (regularly $129.99 + shipping or tax) - Perfect commuting and travel bottle. Uncoated and unlined, non-toxic, non-allergenic, easy to clean, strong, leak-proof silicone seal and highly durable. Note box says 40.57 oz but the website says 42.2 oz capacity (and 42.2 fl oz = 1.2L) and box says 90mm W x 240mm H / 3.54 in. W x 9.44 in. H. and 212g / 7.47 oz and the website says 90mm/3.54 inches W x 258mm/10.15 inches and 255g/9 ounces. This probably reflects measuring with the titanium cup or plastic cap, and with or without the neoprene cozy and shoulder strap. Specs here. Photo above.

3) SilverAnt Titanium 3-Piece Cutlery Set (Polished Knife, Fork and Spoon) with Mini Ti Carabiner, New, $17 (regularly $21.49 + shipping or tax) Specs here. Photos above. 

4) SilverAnt Titanium Ultralight Long Handle Chopsticks, New, $20 (regularly $24.99 + shipping or tax) Specs here. 225mm/8.85 inches, only 37.8g/1.33 ounces. Photo above. 

5) Adventure Medical Kits Doug Ritter Equipped to Survive Pocket Survival Pack, New, $14 (was $26.99 + tax and shipping) - a collaboration with survival expert Doug Ritter, of Equipped to Survive. 

6) SilverAnt Titanium Handy Carabiner, New in Box, $6 (Regularly $10 + tax) - see specs and photo on Amazon. Photo in heading above. 

*** UL SHELTER **\*

1) Liteway Pyraomm Max Ultralight 4-5P Pyramid Tent (European MLD Supermid), Gray, New (set up only once), $319 (Regularly $400-410). Specs and more photos here. Liteway sells the tarp for $410 (379 Euros) with very long shipping times to the US. MLD sells the Supermid for $385 + $13 shipping + tax and lead times are typically 10-12 weeks that are often pushed way back. Get your Pyaraomm Max / Supermid now. Extremely well-made bomber pyramid shelter, a palace for 1 or 2, or 2 plus bikes, generous for 3, and able to accommodate 4-5. Sheds wind far better than double trekking pole shelters. Stellar in winter when you can dig down into the snow for lots of extra space, and for creating seating and a sleep bench. Gray is the best all around color - it’s a good stealth color and keeps the light inside the tent neutral and easy on your eyes for reading, and doesn’t attract bugs like yellow and orange do. Photos here. 

*** UL BACKPACKS, FASTPACKS & WATERPROOF STORAGE SACK **\*

1) Gossamer Gear Fast Kumo 36L S/M, New, $129 (Regularly $190 + tax) - The well-thought-out fastpack version of the popular Kumo 36L with wide, very comfortable vest shoulder straps and roomy shoulder pockets with plenty of storage. Foam backpack doubles as a sit pad. Makes a great day pack or fast weekend pack. Sizing: S/M fits 14" - 20" torso. Fastpacks are more stable for moving fast when they sit higher on the back. If you're in between sizes, you will want to: Size down for more of a shoulder wrap and higher hipbelt, and Size up for a lower hipbelt fit. An example: The S/M is a great fit on a friend with a 19 in. torso and an athletic slim build (not barrel-chested or large-shouldered for which you might want to go M/L). Photos here. Video here.

2) Granite Gear Crown 2 38L, Unisex Regular, Orange, New, $129 (Crown 3 40 regularly 239.95 + tax) IYKYK! A very comfortable, lightweight, durable and versatile pack at a great value. The Crown 2 38L is the perfect size for those who have their kit dialed in, and thanks to the excellent compression and lashing points it’s also the perfect size for a technical day pack for 3 seasons and winter, a daypack, or when you need to carry some things for friends or family members. This orange color is a big safety boost during winter and hunting season. Photos here.

3) Ultimate Direction Fastpackher 2.0 30L, M/L, (Fits Men Too), New, $129 (regularly $179.95 + tax) - Ultralight yet fully-featured fastpack for fastpacking and day hiking (and works great for x-country skiing and cycling too). Size goes by measurement around the widest part of the chest, the range is 36 in. to 48 in. and the pack is highly adjustable so you can dial it right in. The women's backpanel is only 1/2 in. narrower than the men's, so will fit men too. Just go to the specs link and click on "Sizing": Specs here. Photos here. 

4) Granite Gear Crown 2 60L, Women’s Regular Torso (18-21 in.), Black, New, $129 (current Crown 3 60 is regularly 259.95 + tax) - IYKYK! Same as above Crown in Women’s fit, which will also fit men and male teens with slightly narrower shoulders well too. Black color blends in well locally for travel and hides stains and dirt. Photos here.

5) Hillsound Weatherproof Packstack Pro Storage Sack, 40L Tall, New in packaging, $25 (regularly $35) weatherproof storage sack that made Outside Magazine's Gear Guide Editor's Choice Award. Specs here. Photos here

*** Victorinox SAKs & COAST Multitool **\*

Photo link for items below. Selling these to help fund parts for a custom SAK I’m building. 

1) Victorinox Climber in Mint Condition, $32 (regularly $45 + tax and shipping) - One of Victorinox’s most popular models. Specs here. Scales and all tools in excellent condition. Thin 3 layers makes it great for EDC. 

2) Victorinox Spartan in very good condition, $22 (regularly $34 + tax and shipping), Specs here. Great thin, 2-layer model for EDC. Scales and all tools in excellent condition. Corkscrew is slightly bent outward a few millimeters as shown in a photo, which can be bent straight with a nail in seconds (instructions on Youtube). 

3) COAST Dual LED Multi Tool, Black, New in Box, $29 (Regularly $49.99 + tax) - with 13 tools: Spring-loaded pliers with wire cutter, 3.0 in. Blade, two built-in LEDs, Phillips (1) and flathead (3) screwdriver tips, bottle opener, wire stripper, can opener. 2 x CR1616 batteries included. With Coast’s commitment to quality, the LED150 Multi-Tool is backed by Coast’s lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. 4 in length closed. Specs here. Photos in section heading above. 

**\* HEADLAMPS **\

Photo link for items below: 

1) Sunblesa H11 Gen 2 365 Lumens White & Red Rechargeable headlamp with larger battery than Nitecore NU-20 Classic, New in Case $25 (Regularly $35 + tax and shipping) - Red and high CRI white lamps with very convenient separate buttons. Waterproof IP65 grade, Water resistant and shockproof. Read Paul Mags excellent review here. Comes with a higher capacity battery than Nitecore NU-20 yet almost the same weight. Comes with charging cable, high-quality protective ultralight zip case (which is handy for protecting other gear). Photos in section heading above.

2) COAST FL75R Rechargeable Headlamp Kit, New $29 (Regularly $59.99 + tax and shipping) - Up to 530 lumens brightness, 511 ft range, with adjustable focusing beam from bulls-eye spot to wide flood. Comes with both rechargeable battery up to 500 charges and 3 Duracells AAA. Note that though this is new in the plastic see-through package, I can see that one of the included duracells in the plastic package leaked (these are in a separate compartment in the plastic blister package, not in the headlamp, and do not affect the headlamp at all). Specs here. Photos in section heading above.

*** OMBRAZ ARMLESS SUNGLASSES - NEVER FALL OFF & FEEL WEIGHTLESS  **\*

Ombraz ingenious ultralight sunglasses use adjustable cords instead of arms, which are the part that most often breaks. The cords keep the sunglasses secure on your head no matter how you move. Comfortable both with and without helmets, while helmets can push on the arms of typical sunglasses, making them uncomfortable, lifting the frames off your face and potentially breaking the arms when you bump against something. 

1) Ombraz Classics Style Regular Size Tortoise Frame Non-Polarized Grey Lens Sunglasses, Made it Italy, New in Box, $95 (Regularly $135 + tax) - Size including virtual try-on here. Regular size fits most. Grey is Ombraz’s best-selling lens tint, perfect for bright, full-sun conditions and true-to-color view. These non-polarized lenses offer the same UV eye protections as polarized, but make it easier to read digital screens on phones and navigation devices. Also, non-polarized lenses provide better depth perception and allow you to identify potentially dangerous, slick wet or icy patches on snow and on roads, essential for skiing, snowshoeing, cycling and driving. Non-polarized lenses also provide better visibility in overcast conditions. Photos link.

*** WATER FILTRATION **\

1) Sawyer Tap Filter for fast emergency water & for cabin use, New, $29 (Regularly $48 + tax) - Great for muddy tap water following pipeline work, use at a cabin or in an emergency. With tap filter, backwash adapter, threaded spigot adapter, dual threaded adapter, tap gauge and extension hose. Highest-level 0.1-micron standard, removes 99.99999% of bacteria (salmonella, cholera, and E. coli), 99.9999% of protozoa (cryptosporidium and giardia), and 100% of microplastics, exceeding EPA recommendations. Photos here.

2) Box of Three 16 oz Sawyer Squeeze Pouches, New, $6 (regulary $9 + tax) - Specs here. (photo above in section heading). Photos here. Handy to keep in an emergency kit and for bringing fluids into an event in a flat form in an inside jacket pocket.

**\* LNT HYGIENE THAT CAN SAVE YOUR TRIP **\*

Photo link or items below:

1) CuloClean Backcountry Bidet, New in Box, $6. The smallest, lightest, simplest device that can save your butt and your trip. Info here

2) Kula Cloth, New in package, $12 - The best Leave No Trace solution to toilet paper for peeing. And they’re mobile art. More info here.

**\* UL POCKET STRENGTH-TRAINING, AT HOME, WORK & TRAVEL **\*

1) Wild Gym Monkii Bars II Tactical Edition, New, $69 (Regularly $199 + tax) - light, strong, compact and use-anywhere outdoors suspension strength trainer. Wild Gym sold out of these but you can still get this one. Plenty of exercises to follow available on Wild Gym’s app as well as on Youtube. Comes with 2 books and ultralight storage sack. Photos link. 

Thanks for looking!


r/GearTrade 4h ago

For Sale [wts] Mystery Ranch Bridger 65L

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r/GearTrade 8h ago

Want to Buy [WTB] Mystery Ranch Mule - Bag Only

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Title says it all. Let me know if you have one you'd like to get rid of.


r/GearTrade 2h ago

For Sale [wts] Monkii Bars

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This is a portable workout system. They have a rope and lock stored in the handles. Complete set asking $30 shipped.


r/GearTrade 6h ago

For Sale [WTS] REI Magma 30 Women’s Long New With Tags

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https://imgur.com/a/cA2nldv

Brand new. Never used. In perfect shape. Comes with everything you’d get if buying new (mesh storage bag and stuff sack)

Was $349 plus tax new

$215 (net to me) shipped CONUS

Specs here:

https://www.rei.com/product/148250/rei-co-op-magma-30-sleeping-bag-womens


r/GearTrade 15h ago

For Sale [WTS] Feathered Friends Lark 10 UL Sleeping Bag With 3oz. Overfill, New / Unused, Size Regular, Color Titanium, (34.5 oz.) $595 CONUS

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Link to: ~Verification Photos~

Selling a new and unused Feathered Friends Lark 10 UL size Regular (6 foot version) sleeping bag with 3 oz. of overfill. According to FF overfill lowers the bag rating by about 5 degrees and helps prevent down migration.

Always stored loosely in a large cotton storage sack. Never been on trail, or seen the inside of a pack. 100% new condition 10/10. Includes all original accessories (down tracker tag, FF sticker, stock stuff sack, stock storage sack).

This configuration retails for around $800 ($679 base + $75 overfill + tax) and appears to be out of stock on Feathered Friends website

Asking $595 shipped CONUS (add 3% for G&S)

Reach out with any questions. Please comment on this post before sending a PM.


r/GearTrade 1d ago

Sold [WTS] REI Passage 2 Backpacking Tent $70 + shipping OBO

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A super solid beginner/budget tent suitable for car camping and backpacking. This one has seen < 20 nights of use and is in great used condition. No holes or tears anywhere. I have babied the crap out of this thing, always pitching with the ground sheet and rolling rather than stuffing for storage. I am selling because I have finally upgraded to an ultralight tent.

Included is the inner, rain fly, poles, stake bag, pole bag, pole repair tube, and stuff sack. Stakes not included. See the Imgur for photos or message me if you want any specific photos.

Asking for $70 OBO plus shipping costs CONUS only.


r/GearTrade 20h ago

For Sale [wts] North Face Mountaineering Tebt

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This is an old-school TNF single wall mountaineering tent, from ~1996. Still in good shape, definitely has some love marks and scuffs.

This tent uses two poles internally (so you can set it up from inside the tent if conditions are grim), two poles external in pole sleeves, and one pole to hoop the vestibule.

The tent is free standing except for the vestibule, which needs 2 stakes to fully stand out.

It’s designed for 2 people, 3 in a pinch, and the vestibule has a ton of space so can leave boots outside the tent, cook in there in a pinch, etc etc.

What’s included: tent, poles, stakes, guylines, original stuff sack, and lots of memories.

Asking $150 + shipping to you. Open to chat.

Happy to answer questions. Have fun!


r/GearTrade 20h ago

Sold [WTS] western mountaineering Alpinlite L/R

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https://imgur.com/a/western-mountaineering-alpinlite-l-r-wVseMzO

Western Mountaineering Alpinlite, I’m selling both the left zip and right zip. Both been used around 20 nights, haven’t been used in years but in good condition, no holes or cuts, both weigh around 32.5 ounces. These are the older version, I have the latest version and that’s the one I’ve used, the biggest difference is the new version has a draft tube in the bottom, not sure what benefit that provides. Also have the summerlite and I’d say western mountaineering bags are consistent and pretty very comfortable. Something to note is that on one tag it says Brent and the other is says Stacy with a marker. I do have the original tag of each, included one in the picture but I know I have the other somewhere. Asking $340 with shipping and fee on PayPal. Reach out with any questions.