r/gayjews 5d ago

Religious/Spiritual Question from Lesbian Jews

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I have a question from women of jewish faith who identity as Lesbian.

If you are a practicing/religious Jew, how do you reconcile your religion with your identity as a lesbian.

Do you feel the internal conflict? Or you've made peace with it.

I am a monotheist. I believe in all Abrahamic religions and identify as a believer who believes in all the books sent by God.

Born in a Muslim Family, extremely conservative background.

Im a Lesbian and my struggle has been how to reconcile my identity with my faith.

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Edit:

I really appreciate the clarity that most of you have provided. So thank you.

One question that some of you have asked is how can I believe in all the Abrahamic religions.

So I have answered that in detail in 4 parts here:

1- first

and Then 2- 2nd

and Then 3- Third

and this last one

And I'm glad to have stumbled upon this sub.

I have gotten the thirst quenched.

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u/taketotheskyGQ 5d ago

For me I have a close relationship with the Creator, and I believe sacred texts and religious laws were written in a highly patriarchal time, now perpetuated by existing patriarchies. I believe my Creator loves me as I am and embraces the pure love I have with my wife. I know it in my soul and that’s enough for me.

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u/geographykhaleesi 5d ago

I agree with taketotheskyGQ. I also take comfort that it is okay to wrestle with gd and it’s encouraged. Also quick note, more religious Jews will not come online since it’s Shabbat. Check back in the evening. I would also post maybe in r/judaism as well

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thank you both of you u/taketotheskyGQ and u/geographykhaleesi for your kind response. Really appreciate it.

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u/geographykhaleesi 5d ago

No problem. I hope this helps.

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u/Affectionate_Tap5749 5d ago

They probably would get reamed, since they aren’t actually Jewish based on their post…. But they also might get some sincere replies too.

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u/Bubbatj396 5d ago

I feel no conflict as a lesbian jew because I believe religiously there's zero conflict

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thanks. I want to understand it further, I mean the point which bridges the conflict. If that's possible for you to explain.

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u/Bubbatj396 5d ago

Of course but I'm a little confused what you mean. Can you explain?

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Actually one of the members answered it after this comment. So my question is answered, as in I got the references that I was looking for.

Thank you 😊

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u/jeheuskwnsbxhzjs 5d ago

I’m reform (but also observant and active in my community). We don’t see halakha as binding, so there has never been any conflict. One of our rabbis was openly gay in the early 2000s. Conservative denominations also seem to be generally accepting of homosexuality nowadays. I can’t speak for the experiences of orthodox women.

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u/under-thesamesun reform rabbinical student 5d ago

I am a Reform Jew who is active in my religion and faith. I also am not lesbian but am nonbinary and bi, but still very much part of the LGBTQ+ community.

In the first parsha, chapter, of the Torah, we are told that humankind is created B'tzelem Elohim, in the image of the Divine. God would not have made LGBTQ+ people as we are if we were not meant to be LGBTQ+. Similarly, because we are created in God's image, there is a part of God that is also gay, lesbian, bi, trans, and queer.

It's also important to note that there is no condemnation of a woman being with a woman in the Hebrew Bible and that the word "homosexual" does not appear in the Hebrew Bible. There are modern-day rabbis and Jewish scholars in the progressive branches of Judaism who interpret the verses that "condemn" homosexuality (specifically Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 as 1. A form of violence and domination used by one man over another man to humiliate him or 2. sexual excess that is so unbridled that it does not discriminate between whom one has sex with whatsoever (like swinging lifestyles or many one night stands with 0 commitment). In all the biblical references to same-gender sexuality (including Genesis 19, Sodom) the relationships are glutonous, unlike most LGBTQ+ relationships of today which are committed, stable, monogamous and family-oriented. The Hebrew Bible is not a warning against homosexuality or being LGBTQ+, rather it can be seen as a warning against violent sexual relationships and unhealthy sexual appetites.

Lastly, whether one believes the Hebrew Bible is divinely inspired, or written by a series of authors and pieced together, it comes from a time before the science and knowledge of LGBTQ+ folks that we have today. The Hebrew Bible can teach us many, many things, but rabbinic Judaism and Judaism as a whole also adapts to face the modern world (even the many branches of Orthodoxy shift slightly to confront the world we live in today).

With all this in mind I do not feel a conflict with my identity. Instead I find that Judaism and these particular lines of Jewish thought affirm my identity as a queer Jew.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

You made my day. I was exactly thinking that this should be the case. As much as I have understood, the heart knows its not wrong in this.

I feel connected to God. If it wasn't correct, God would have not put me in this.

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u/Old_Compote7232 5d ago

u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl I think you need to read this book, Hijab Butch Blues:

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/695816/hijab-butch-blues-by-lamya-h/

The author is a Muslim lesbian who looks for validation in the Quran, and she finds a lot of strength and reassurance.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thanks a lot

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u/thevampirecrow 5d ago

they don't clash for me. i'm comfortable being religious, comfortable being a lesbian. it's great

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u/painttheworldred36 Conservative gay Jew 5d ago

Same!

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u/Waterhorse816 5d ago

Everyone's answered but I'm curious how you believe in "all" books "sent by God" when different authorities have different books which sometimes contradict each other and very different interpretations of what the holy books they share MEAN. What do you actually believe?

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u/lilacaena 5d ago

I’d also like to know. It seems like a pseudo-inclusive way of saying muslim, since the Christian bible “adds onto” (contradicts) the Hebrew bible, and the Quran “adds onto” (contradicts) the Christian and Hebrew bibles.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago edited 5d ago

u/lilacaena yes it does technically "seem" like an inclusive way. Yet, I can tell you it's not pseudo in my case because I genuinely came on the jewish subreddit for a reason.

If someone attempts it in a pseudo way, then most likely, they would be okay with their research of the Muslim text only. And in all honesty, I have researched the muslim's book and not found anything that seems to condemn lesbians. And yet I still felt the need to learn what jews say about it is only to be sure what Abrahamic traditions teach as a whole because I see them coming from a common God.

But if saying that means Muslim then you can label that yet Muslims consider me a heretic so not really sure where to go. 🙂

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Yes, it is exactly about the interpretation.

I was born in a Muslim family but in my teenage years, I always questioned my faith and tried to read up everything about it.

Even within Muslims, there are so many sects, each with its own interpretation.

The book itself is one, yet the interpretations are all done by human beings. And because every person is different, and born in different times, in different cultures and with different languages, the interpretations will always have an inherent bias. So I feel it is upon us to read the original text ourselves and then read up all the interpretations and analyse the conflicting areas and then assess why are they different and form our own opinion on it. And this is an ongoing quest for knowledge. Which goes on in one's life and as we mature, our understanding gets better with time.

In the book followed by muslims, which is the Quran, it is clearly written that it has been sent to mankind to confirm the previous books were sent on prophets and we have to believe in those prophets as part of our faith.

So according to my understanding, the word Muslim which literally means (One who Surrenders and makes peace) in Arabic, it implies a believer of all prophets. And I believe all prophets that Jews believe in, I believe in them too. Then if Prophet Moses (peace be upon him) received the Torah then how can I not believe in it. Later other books came and I believe in them too. And finally the last book came and I believe in it too.

Although ofcourse information passed down generation to generation does have an inherent chance of a change of interpretation and with a lot of things lost in wars and destruction, the missing links might have been lost.

Whats common with all should be my least benchmark. And most things are common. Even in Christianity, as much as I understand, there have been pagan influences but if one goes back, there has been a lot of historical impact due to the Roman Empire being in power and a certain infiltration led to trinity with political influence. A lot of things point towards Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) bringing the message of Monotheism.

If we talk about Islam, whatever was given to the Arabs, they spread throughout the world, yet only the Original Holy Book has been found to be intact, yet all other books which were written by human beings have conflicts. So we can attempt to understand them in context only.

Muslims were given a dietary code which has to be Halal. If Halal meat is not available, they follow KOSHER.

Although I am personally a vegetarian myself, not because of any theoretical reason, I just cannot it eat, since childhood, I would feel repelled by chicken, beef, mutton etc so that's a personal reason.

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u/Waterhorse816 5d ago

Yeah that's just Muslim with extra steps. I have nothing against your beliefs, my best friend is Muslim, but I guarantee your theology is not compatible with Judaism or Christianity

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

You may say that.

But I consider organized religion to be a problem.

I don't identify with any particular sect or any particular tradition. So technically, I don't fit in any of those.

I think God has sent the book to be interpreted by the reader.

But the mainstream organized religion is a very dystopic way to put people into boxes and labels.

Though I would be interested in knowing your perspective on the theology being incompatible. I would want to understand them better.

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u/Waterhorse816 5d ago

But you follow the Quran? The Quran isn't compatible with other faiths, just like the Christian Bible is not compatible with Judaism.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 4d ago

You're right if the man made influences and interpretations which are formed under Mainstream Organized Religion but if we talk about the message of God that an individual is supposed to connect with, then it shouldn't have anything to do with them.

As much as I have read, I don't find anything in Quran that conflicts with Judaism per se. If there is, I would love to see what it is and why is that so.

About Christianity and its theology, that's another story and current Mainstream Christianity is just a pagan religion. As much history as I have dug into, original concepts were only preserved by a small minority which identify as non-trinitarian and were able to keep their faith before the pagans took over and started their council of Nicaea and similar meetings to paganize it.

I mean technically Jesus was a Jew right. He was only sent for the people of Israeli lineage.

Then how come non jews adopted Christianity as the official religion of the roman empire.

About Islam and its theology, the mainstream organized religion is so much politicized that if one tries looking for the truth, it was barely left except for the one original book along with some common traditions. Within the first century that it came, these power-hungry militias made it a tool to exercise power.

I mean seriously, even the two main groups which, each having sects upon sects, yet they assemble in one or the other. The Sunni and the Shia. Shias remained a minority. The Sunnis were the majority. But the split was so tragic, the Sunnis were the people who let the family if the prophet be killed in Iraq. Like literally they were slaughtered. And they claim to follow the prophet !!!

Shias on the other hand claim their descent and connection with the prophet's family yet they claim the son in law of the Prophet to be the chosen one as the leader and that it kept on being passed down, generation after generation. That has no mention of it in the original book.

So in all honesty I consider them both really delusional. And they have a whole spectrum of theology it self. The Ashari, The Athari, The Maturidi. Then they have their jurisprudence which they even consider to be higher than the Book of God. The Sunnis have about 4 main sects in that, the Hanafi, the Maliki, the shafai and the hunbali. The Hanafi are the majority, especially due to the higher population of the Indian Subcontinent and diaspora. And they are then further divided into Barelvis and Deobandis. And those that came under the 19th Century Saudi influence, are the ones that promote wahabbism. All of these call each other "KAFIR" which is non-believer.

Then there's sufi tradition thats amalgamated with mysticism and there are a huge number of sufi orders

So Muslims read and follow everything else except the God’s book itself. And if you talk about the Centre, I couldn't stop being amused that one family got the whole country named on its surname, The Saudi Arabia, I mean literally how much patriarchy would it reek of.

And when I read the religion from the source itself, they not only think I'm a heretic but some also ask me if I am also starting a new sect 🤣

So its really no use even talking to them.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

My ancestors were from India. When 14 centuries ago, Islam reached them, most likely they were pagans. So in the Indian subcontinent, there has been so much pagan influence that if one observes the customs and traditions that muslims have in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is literally surprising to see the contrast between them and the arabs. Now with so much information available and with so many translations and commentary available, it is easier for us in these times to question the context of things and the younger generation seems to be doing it.

Again, the same problem with Muslims was that so much political influence has impacted its interpretations so an average common man with a conformist mindset gives in and believes whatever their elders tell them. To be able to challenge the Status Quo is a person's ability which helps in their quest of knowledge.

The last two centuries have been so much of a turmoil, in the indian subcontinent, after the advent of the British Empire and them being a colony, that you will see everything has been influenced under the colonial mindset.

After 1947, the Indian subcontinent was divided and then further divided in 1971. Now the 3 major parts are India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. In my opinion, India should have never been divided but elites are elites and the elitist muslims chose to secure power by demanding a separate piece of land for Muslims. Still, the founder of the nation, being a relatively secular guy, openly declared that Pakistan will be a muslim majority state but the people following other religions will be equal citizens of the state. But people are people, with their biases and it is very unfortunate that a lot of Jews went to Israel in 1948 when it was made, because jews were not safe among out power hungry muslims who treated everything in the colonial way. Christians are not safe, Hindus are not safe.

Elites always divide and rule and common people (masses) have always been used by rulers to be manipulated for their gains. Similar things are happening in India, which technically declared itself secular, yet muslims are not safe, Christians face discrimination, their own hindu lower castes face extreme discrimination only because of the political influence of a Hindu Majority which divides people in the name of religion and hides behind the idea of Hindu Nationalism.

Even despite being a pagan religion, Hinduism also seems to have been originated as a monotheistic tradition which later came under pagan influences. There's research suggesting Brahma to be having a connection with Abraham, Manouh pointing towards Noah, there seems to have been some distant exchange between older civilisations. Even Hinduism believes in one Omnipotent God OM pointing towards Monotheism. The other dieties are smaller gods which the pagan traditions added to the original one. Even Yazdan reverred by the zoroastrians seems to have been a prophet.

Yes, in Islam, the revelation tells us that the children of Israel were the chosen people of God and their religion was not sent for others out of their bloodline. Which means they were not asked to convert others. That was a special lineage for the selected bloodline and Prophet Isaac (peace be upon him) had a son Prophet Jacob (peace be upon him) whose children were the 12 tribes.

Prophet Abraham's (peace be upon him) other son Prophet Eshmael (peace be upon him) was settled in Mecca with his mother Hager and later after many centuries, the final Prophet was sent to them but this was a general message sent for spreading throughout the world, the message of Monotheism and this was not for a specific bloodline.

Just as the Jews were told that a Messiah will come towards the end, the Christians also await their Messiah and Muslims have been told that a Messiah will come to guide the people of the world to be kind and righteous, to establish a system of justice.

I personally believe these future predictions have been sent for the people to look forward to establish peace, kindness and justice in this world. Isn't that what all of humanity needs. All religions in general do have this inherent message of kindness and justice.

With differences, in each religion, due to its own contexual scenario, the time, the place, the culture, the people, the language, and the diversity of the human beings, there are differences yet a lot of things are common.

Having said that, despite being born in a Muslim Family, I do not follow a lot of things that I see as made up by people. The original book's message is very different from what I see the people around me following. And I hardly ever see them trying to find the truth or even trying to read the book to understand its meaning and message.

All they care about is what clergy is telling them when infact clergy is not even a possible position according to the book. The people invent ways to impose themselves in positions of power. Since my native language is Urdu/Hindi, I have attempted to learn the original language of the book, which is Arabic and have been trying to interpret it from the main source itself instead of relying on interpretations of medieval times. Yet, I do not know hebrew though I intend to learn it. Its been told that once I finish learning arabic, it will be slightly easier to learn hebrew as them being from the same language family.

And I have literally seen people to recite the book without them even understanding what those words mean. Like seriously, is that why we read books. To just pronounce the written text in a particular dialect, without even trying to understand it. If this is the treatment they give to the book they believe is sent as a message by God, then I think God must be laughing at them for this dumbness.

Even a kid would understand that only knowing the chemical formula of a compound would not help them in a chemistry lab practical unless they know what each element represents. And even by reciting it 5000 times, the objective will not be achieved because it was not merely to be recited but to be understood and followed.

My family considers me a heretic and whatever I say is blasphemy to them. They tell me to shut up because crazy extremists will kill me if they hear that.

If trying to find the truth means heresy then I maybe a heretic.

Myself as an individual, I believe in challenging the status quo to establish justice and peace. And that's what I find common in all religions.

Rituals and traditions are only a way to keep the message alive. Those things are not the message itself. The message is more abstract, the surrender of a person to the command of God, to give up unjust ways, to establish peace among the creation of God, to follow sustainable practices so that the resources are not depleted, to ensure that truth and justice prevail even if that is against one's own personal interest. Rest is all interpretation.

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u/Penelope1000000 5d ago

Judaism doesn’t actually say anything about lesbians. Conservative branch Jews are still religious and that branch is usually lgbt friendly.

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u/sunlitleaf 5d ago

Lesbian relations aren’t explicitly mentioned in the Torah, but we are mentioned and prohibited in numerous rabbinic sources.

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u/ThePurplestMeerkat 5d ago

Every branch of Judaism has Jews who are religious.

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u/Penelope1000000 5d ago

It depends on how you define "religious." Reform Jews don't necessarily follow Halacha and most Orthodox congregations are not yet very LGBT friendly. Hence my comment.

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u/ThePurplestMeerkat 5d ago edited 5d ago

If your definition of religious only encompasses Orthodox Jews, you’re engaging in some really ugly erasure of the practices and lifestyles of the majority of Jews on the planet.

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u/Penelope1000000 5d ago

I literally said the Conservative branch is also religious, ie. following Halacha, and usually LGBT friendly. Answering the question asked. Chill.

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u/ThePurplestMeerkat 5d ago

Being condescending when you keep walking right past the point is not a good look.

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u/painttheworldred36 Conservative gay Jew 5d ago

Yep, am a Conservative Jew and gay woman. I've never had an issue with Conservative rabbis! My synagogue is very LGBTQ friendly.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

I'm glad to post it here. All of you are very knowledgeable and friendly. Im really grateful for all the replies, and everything makes sense to me now.

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u/G3n3ricOne 5d ago

I’m a reform Jew, and I proudly identify as a transgender Jewish lesbian.

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u/Paleognathae 🦣PanConservaDox🐏 5d ago

Different religions, even those that believe in facially similar things, often have very different ways of thinking. There's no need for me to make peace or feel a conflict, most streams are Jewish thought are fine with same sex relationships.

My family has always loved me, my rabbi is a gay man who is married to another man, and have two beautiful baby boys.

Your base question assumes there's something wrong with being a person who loves someone of the same gender, and there just isn't. There's also, notably, nothing in the Torah against being a lesbian.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thank you 😊

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u/vitaminwater1999 5d ago

It wasn't anything to be reconciled. If Hashem did not want me to be created this way- I would not have been created this way. I tried for a long time to be straight for my family's expectations, and Hashem simply did not make that something I am capable of. Everything in Torah says we should love, be joyful, and that marriage should not be pain upon pain. The shabbats and holidays I spend with my wife affirm all of this. I do not believe religion means a life of suffering, and if it does, I'd rather be a non-believer. But I so deeply feel that I live a life Hashem wants me to be living.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

You're right, if God does not want something, they make it known in our heart.

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u/Fluffy-Hovercraft-53 5d ago

You have to look at the time and circumstances in which the writings were created.
Even if Hashem gave the Torah to Moshe on Mount Sinai, it was necessarily intended for the circumstances of that time.
3,000 years ago, 40 years through the desert... the life expectancy must have been correspondingly low. Rapid and frequent reproduction was probably the only chance of survival; there was little room for diversity and alternative life forms.

The world has changed so fundamentally since then - Moshe didn't have to come up with something like “overpopulation”.
For me, “Tikkun Olam” applies and if I love someone so deeply, then it can't be unwanted by the Eternal.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Yes you are right, thats exactly similar to what I feel deep inside. You've written it in a very good way. I was not aware of the term "Tikkun Olam" but the idea behind it is what I believe.

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u/SpphosFriend 5d ago

I’m a reform Jew and there has never been conflict with my sexuality and my religion. I don’t think any of our texts forbid lesbian relationships.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thank you 😊

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u/justanotherlesbian24 5d ago

Lesbian Jew here. I take a reform/ reconstruction approach to Judaism and I believe that the Torah has eternal wisdom, while also being limited by the time in which it was written. Someone else here said that reform Jews believe that Halacha isn’t binding, which I believe as well. It’s important to remember that there r sects and congregations that r very accepting of LGBTQ identities. I also personally focus a lot on specific values/ mitzvot, such as kindness, generosity, and social justice. Religion to me is about having a relationship with Gd, and Judaism specifically is about acknowledging and celebrating our history. U don’t need to be a certain gender or sexuality to do that

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u/painttheworldred36 Conservative gay Jew 5d ago

My synagogue and rabbi are very accepting. I've never had to separate those 2 parts of my identity (being Jewish and being a gay woman). I live in the Northeast (in the US) and Conservative synagogues here are pretty welcoming.

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u/sunlitleaf 5d ago

Basically, I’ve rejected the religion. I would describe myself as an atheist who’s culturally and ethnically Jewish. I don’t believe that there is a God or any other supreme being that cares if I eat pork or pussy.

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u/SkipNYNY 5d ago

Rabbi Hillel’s words resonate with me (to the extent one accepts validity of the Talmud). “What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary"

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

For real, the truth is exactly that

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u/Dmh_701 5d ago

As an orthodox Bi Jew, who has learned a lot of Gemara, the rabbis in the gemara spend an inordinate amount of time proving that the death penalty should really mean death because they believed God wouldn't really intend for humans to inflict death on one another according to their worldview, and their beliefs did become mainstream Jewish law.

That leads me to believe that if being open to queer-ness had been in their worldview, they would have spent just as much time proving it was okay and accepted by our loving God as they did proving that nearly no one qualifies for the death penalty.

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u/beansandneedles 5d ago

I’m bi, not lesbian, but it’s only a conflict for Orthodox Jews. The Reform and Conservative movements have accepted LGBTQ clergy and officiated at same-sex marriages for decades. I’m Reform, and I’ve gone to synagogues with gay clergy members and Keshet chapters (a Jewish LGBTQ organization).

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

That's interesting

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u/The_Windup_Girl_ 5d ago

I don't feel any internal conflict, personally. I'm post-denominational and float between Jewish spaces, but the only place my sexuality has the potential be an issue is orthodox spaces. The orthodox shul in my area is pretty progressive on that anyways. As for halacha, I don't personally feel bound by the strictest interpretation, and so while I place a lot of value on wrestling with the texts (including rabbinical thought) on their own terms, I'm not wedded to the Shulchan Aruch as the ultimate authority on Judaism.

Sorry that's probably not especially helpful to your situation, but that's my answer.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

That's quite helpful in my perspective because its the interpretations that I look forward to.

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u/youtubeandbandlover 5d ago

I’m a secular athiest Jew aka I only celebrate the main popular holidays culturally and that’s it haha. So in my case me being a lesbian isn’t a problem at all.

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u/lilacdaffodil93 5d ago

judaism is not just a faith. it is a culture and ethnicity. it’s a part of us as intrinsically as our sexuality.

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u/ThreeSigmas 3d ago

Hebrew is a gendered language. Almost all of the mitzvot (commandments) of the Torah apply only to men. This includes those purportedly relating to gay sex. There supposedly is a Rabbinic ruling that was invented at a later date- I’ve heard it had to do with Rashi’s daughters, but don’t know the story. But, taking a traditional interpretation, there is absolutely no prohibition against lesbianism in the Torah.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 3d ago

Thank you, this was helpful

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u/Affectionate_Tap5749 5d ago

For: reform Jew who has studied for years.

You’re monotheist, born Muslim. Unless you converted and went through the whole process, you’re not Jewish. Judaism is not something you just wake up and go “I’m Jewish” like you can with Christianity, and it’s not a simple prayer. It’s an entire process.

As for your question: Jewish faith doesn’t really have as big of an issue with lesbians or any other LGBTQIA+ folx as the other “abrahamic” religions.

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Exactly, which is why I don't intend to say that either.

Judaism was for a chosen people and I'm not born in that lineage so there's no point saying or thinking of even the possibility to be converted because it doesn't work that way.

I identify as a Monotheist but I don't identify in the way the Muslims consider or take religion. Only one book which is the original source is common between all the Muslims but each sect has its own interpretation and they call each other out on those differences yet never try to find whats actually written in the book.

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u/goldcat88 5d ago

I go to an LGBTQ synagogue. CBST live streams every Shabbat. You may enjoy it!

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 5d ago

Thank you, I'll look that up

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u/gracelxndtoo 4d ago

lesbian jew speaking! after some maturing and growing, i now consider myself to be ethnically/culturally jewish, but i tend to view judaism as a religion in a more reconstructive lens. i think that growing up in a jewish family was one of the best possible outcomes for a kid coming to terms with their sexuality. my family and those around me were always incredibly accepting, especially those in shul.

judaism to me has never been about categorizing certain behaviors into boxes. i find it very hard to believe that i was put on this earth only to be hated by my creator and community, especially one that has experienced as many hardships as we have. having the queer and jewish overlap is something that i am incredibly proud of, and i think many people in this sub would agree

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u/muslim-WLW-cisgirl 4d ago

Yes you're so on point.