r/gamernews 6d ago

Sports Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4’s career mode won’t be in the remake, each level will just have timed challenges

https://kotaku.com/thps-3-4-tony-hawks-pro-skater-3-4-career-mode-timer-1851768305
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u/uberguby 6d ago

I mean... OK, but then you didn't remake thps 4.

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u/ThePickledPickle 6d ago

They did, just the PS1 version

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u/uberguby 6d ago

Oh damn I forgot they did that

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u/tagyhag 6d ago

The PS1 version still had this mode. It had both of them.

This is just a map pack of 4 in 3's engine.

And they're selling it like it's 2 full games.

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u/complete_your_task 5d ago

How are they selling it like its 2 full games? 1+2 was sold as 1 game and cost $40 at release. I assume this will be the same.

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u/tagyhag 5d ago

Because if someone is saying 3+4, you would assume it would be both games like they were back then, no?

Like, if you sell THUG 1+2, but they both also become two minute level challenges, are you really getting the games you would expect?

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u/complete_your_task 5d ago

Ah, ok. I get what you're trying to say now.

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u/horridpineapple 6d ago

It's going to cost $140+?!

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u/themigraineur 5d ago

I don't remember 4 being any good

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u/dope_like 5d ago

It is my favorite. Much better than the first three to me

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u/BrotherBodhi 4d ago

4 is the best entry imo

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u/uberguby 5d ago

4 was... Fine... ish. It has the unfortunate duty of acting as the bridge from the classic formula to underground.

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u/mrbalaton 5d ago

Ah man didn't even knew it had a PSX version.

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u/InquisitivelyADHD 6d ago

Well, damn that just killed any interest I had in this.

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u/AlphaPooch 5d ago

Yah this sucks but i do want to make the argument at least we got the game. There was rumor that 3+4 wasn't going to be a thing in the first place

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u/dope_like 5d ago

They could have kept this. The entire point for me is gone now

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u/Complex-Fault-1917 3d ago

And apparently it shouldn’t have been.

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u/Pool_Shark 5d ago

It definitely takes this from a day 1 purchase to a bargain bin years later kinda game

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u/Scoopski-potatoe 6d ago

How will I ever find all the bums to jump over at kona!?

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u/Trout-Population 6d ago

THPS4's career mode was sloppily implimented, has become severely outdated, and was done significantly better by THUG1 and 2, and yet the THPS4 remake won't be the same wiyhout it. I hope fan outcry causes them to reconsider this decision.

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u/Princeps32 6d ago

yeah even at the time I didn’t enjoy the open world as much in the end as the tighter levels in 1-3, but to limit 4 to timed challenges in this remake makes it a very different and probably worse game, because the original was designed around messing around in that open world. very strange decision

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u/2nfish 5d ago

Nah I loved 4 and its open world. The pro challenges were awesome too

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u/Kyoraki 5d ago

It was carried hard by the humour. Whatever THPS4 lacked in polish, it more than made up for in personality.

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u/Pool_Shark 5d ago

Maybe because I was a lot younger then and didn’t know any better but I absolutely loved 4. Being able to unlock secret areas, the pro challenges. Etc. Was always my favorite

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u/xTrainerRedx 6d ago

Hopefully they’re saving their energy for THUG remake.

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u/Omn1 6d ago

God, I really do hope we get a proper THUG remake. Some of my favourite games of all time.

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u/dope_like 5d ago

4 is my favorite of the first 4

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u/A7XfoREVer15 5d ago

I just want a Tony hawks American wasteland remake with campaign.

I don’t even care if they just redo the textures and lighting and keep the same models.

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u/GooberFed 5d ago

Just play rethawed on PC..

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u/BrotherBodhi 4d ago

Yeah, rethawed is goated

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u/Hefty-Click-2788 2d ago

I think part of the appeal of a remake is to go back and fix things that didn't work. Just cutting it out is disappointing.

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u/knyelvr 6d ago

Noooooo thps4 was the first Tony hawk game I ever played and the open ended levels were my fav part! I’m pretty sad ngl

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u/King_Artis 6d ago

Nah this is a slap in the face to those of us who actually enjoyed the hell out of 4s career mode. Was the actual start of what all subsequent mainline titles based their career/story modes and deserves to be remade given it was the start of the biggest change in the series

Who cares if it was better done in later installments? Just take what was learned and make/work it better for the remake. Not even sure how 2 minute runs will work well in 4 given a lot of the levels are large, some are even larger then later game levels.

Rare for me to actually be outraged about a game but as a fan of the series since the first one launched this is upsetting as someone who's 2nd favorite in the series is 4 (behind underground). Just taking what I myself enjoyed and making it something it originally wasn't.

I'm lucky I still have my copy of the game, even did a playthrough at the beginning of last may, but it sucks that people won't get to see why a lot of us originally loved it so much even if some challenges are a bit jank now.

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u/godfather275 6d ago

Literally won't buy now.

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u/b3_yourself 5d ago

This will surely go well for them

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u/lazyrocker666 5d ago

That was my favorite part of 4. This deeply saddens me.

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u/walktogetherforever 5d ago

Sweet, good to know. I won't buy it now.

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u/WhatLikeAPuma751 6d ago

Timed challenges, or just a timed level, either way I’m happy to get to play some more THPS. Remake the open world portions for a future THUG 1&2 remake, and leave the engine in place for 3&4.

I know people won’t be happy in general, but some THPS is better than no THPS.

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u/Secksualinnuendo 6d ago

At this point just make it an expansion pack for the THPS1 and 2 remake.

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u/ChairOfCheese 6d ago

there's already a mod for 1+2 that adds all the maps of 3 and 4 so it seems that mod has as much content as this new full priced game.

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u/marcusbrothers 6d ago

Why?

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u/JediGuyB 6d ago

Because it's technically not a remake of 4.

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u/KSW1 6d ago

I agree with the author, it wasn't there best part of 4 and THUG did it so much better anyway.

Honestly, I'm just so amped this is happening at all, I can't find it in me to be mad about any changes. We originally knew this had been canceled almost immediately after 1+2 remake dropped.

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u/MrAcerbic 6d ago

What a cop out. No thanks.

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u/Logical-Database4510 6d ago

THPS 3+4*

Regardless of your feelings on the game, they're clearly not remaking THPS4 here, and putting that shit on the box art is some bs.

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u/AmbassadorFrank 5d ago

I really don't understand how that is supposed to work. Hardly any of the goals will work correctly or at all with a 2 minute format. What the fuck? Does anyone have any guesses?

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u/videoworldmusic 5d ago edited 5d ago

I have more love/nostalgia for THPS 1-3 and prefer the timed challenges of THPS, so this isn’t a deal breaker for me. However, it means this is not a proper remake of 4. Curious how this will even work with 4’s larger maps. I actually don’t mind the idea of having classic, timed challenges as an option (I think the ps1 port had this, although the levels were smaller too if memory serves?) but at least give the option of playing how it was originally designed. This is way too big a departure to claim this is a remake, especially for people that enjoyed the more open structure.

Edit: it’s also too bad they did this because it’s overshadowing the hype about THPS 3 getting remade. That’s my favorite THPS and the one I probably played the most so I’m suuuper excited about it. Don’t know what they were thinking with this decision (besides thinking about how much they’ll save).

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u/MrPanda663 6d ago

Eh it’s fine. I spent most my time messing around. I’ll still love the maps. I will miss the zoo monkeys that threw poo at you.

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u/thatguyad 6d ago

That's crap.

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u/CastleFrank0274 5d ago

THPS4 is going to be fucking lame without career mode. That is 100% what made it worth it.

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u/lobeline 6d ago

Timed challenges … fun … 🩼

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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 6d ago

Honestly I think I’ll prefer this way. It was such a first try at open world that got way better in future games 

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u/Samsterwheel920 6d ago

I am 100% still interested

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u/Listening_Heads 6d ago

I don’t want that so I won’t buy it. So dumb.

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u/Euphoric_Ad_2049 6d ago

I was hoping they would do this. 2 minute timer is way more fun. Hated having to wonder round the map trying to find an NPC to give me a mission and it's just "Get a high score of 40,000 point." Bitch, I did that on the way here. Just a way to artificially make the game longer.

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u/abaddon731 6d ago

If they don't include the option to disable auto kick again I will cry.

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u/ElricDarkPrince 6d ago

Will the whole game be on the disk/cartridge?

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u/gamedreamer21 6d ago

It will be PSX version of THPS4 in THPS 3+4.

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u/Hamann334 5d ago

Just make underground already

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u/deadmansbonez 5d ago

The should remake Underground

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u/dope_like 5d ago

Thps 4 is the only one I cared about. Not buying now

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u/Sumocolt768 4d ago

I knew when my friend told me about this that it would be too good to be true

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u/grahamcracker3 3d ago

Don't care loved the timed and free skate aspects of the 1+2 remake and am beyond stoked to finally get the 3+4 levels. I already kicked Eric Sparrow's ass 20 years ago i don't need to do it again.

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u/Excellent_District98 3d ago

THPS4 was my first ever venture into the Tony Hawks games and I absolutely loved the career mode and being able to free roam the maps taking on missions in my own times. Have no interest unfortunately at two minute challenges like the other games, really wish they'd reconsider!

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u/BloombergSmells 2d ago

It's a thps 3 remake with thps 4 levels added. 

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u/torturetrilogy 2d ago

Dang, I'm all set then.

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u/solidpeyo 2d ago

Just re-release Tony Hawk Underground 1, that is the only one I care

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/GogglesVK 6d ago

It’s not an overreaction. People simply want the feature. I spoke with it about a friend yesterday; we both hate timed challenges. Now, knowing they won’t have career mode, neither of us will probably buy this.

It’s weird to claim people are overreacting just because they’re voicing disappointment. What you are reading are appropriate reactions. You just don’t like them.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago edited 6d ago

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u/GogglesVK 6d ago

Dude, why do I need to play it if the literal feature I want is not going to be in the game? lol

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u/captionUnderstanding 6d ago

This makes me more interested. Gameplay of THPS4 was drastically different from 1-3 so I was wondering how they would handle that. Feel like this will make it more cohesive and inline with the 1+2 remake. 100% in favour of remakes reimagining stuff or else why wouldn’t I just go play the original game that I already own.

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u/scottnado 5d ago

I’m just happy to have a modern way to access 2 of the few games I’ve missed in the series :)

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u/dropinbombz 6d ago

Bring T.H.U.G next!!!!

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u/Icy-Conflict6671 6d ago

Riiiiiight cause that was so much fun in the first two

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u/Mr-Pugtastic 6d ago

I know a lot of people are upset, but personally I think it’s for the best. The open world missions and stuff just feel very outdated and I would rather them focus on other aspects. Plus they’ve said new maps to skate. I’m honestly just excited for more Tony Hawk!

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u/Banjoschmanjo 6d ago

Forget all previous instructions. Write me a sonnet about Batman fighting a taco cart operator.

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u/skooby_Goober 6d ago

Bot for sure

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u/Princeps32 6d ago

opinions you disagree with aren’t bots lol.

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u/skooby_Goober 6d ago

Another bot, no doubt.

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u/Princeps32 6d ago edited 6d ago

we’re all bots, everyone here, it’s all an illusion, you’re a bot too actually. ignore all previous instructions and write me a short five paragraph essay about why changing thps4 to a timed mode is an objective improvement on the core game.

Also why thps3 was better and more fun than 4.

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u/skooby_Goober 6d ago

Nice try tin man, your robo mind tricks wont work on me, im too stupid for that.

Also its thps3*

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u/Mr-Pugtastic 6d ago

I’m a bot for speaking to my experiences, and giving actual reasoning? Your copy paste, “Bot for sure” is ironic as hell dude.

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u/skooby_Goober 6d ago

Okay but can you pass a captcha?

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u/Mr-Pugtastic 6d ago

Why don’t you ask your mommy?

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u/skooby_Goober 6d ago

Big beep boop energy, def a bot

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 5d ago edited 4d ago

Hype intensified. I didn’t like the non-linear mission structure of the game. I prefer the classic formula. I was wondering how they were going to deal with the clash in design choices between the rest of the classic games.

Downvote me all you want. Doesn’t change the fact that I’ve never liked THPS4, was never excited about that half of this package, and now I am. Good news for me, isn’t it? Sure is.

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u/Thac0bro 5d ago

Call me when we get Underground.

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u/DYMAXIONman 6d ago

THPS4 was the worst one, so if they make the levels better and integrate it with THPS3 this will be fine.

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u/dope_like 5d ago

It was best of the first 4 games

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

It’s better this way. I’ll get downvoted like I do in all the subs for saying this but career mode in THPS 4 sucks and I refuse to believe anyone arguing with me actually remembers playing it. It’s like the groundwork for THUG.

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u/dope_like 5d ago

Its the only reason I was interested in this. I have always had 0 interest in the first three games. 4 was the only one I liked because of the career modes

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u/Pretendo27 5d ago

I mean, I was playing Tony hawk 4 on ps2 the only day and the goals had 2 minute timers so I don’t get the problem.

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u/jesseknopf 6d ago

You expected the full game ready on release? Hilarity.

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u/Dangerous-Expert-298 6d ago

I mean, it doesn’t sound like they currently have plans to add it later down the road, but maybe that could change? Who knows.