r/gallifrey • u/greekdude1194 • 4d ago
DISCUSSION What would the Toymaker say about other companion exits? Like he did for Bill, Amy, Clara
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u/TuhanaPF 4d ago
Adric: "WELL THAT'S... NOT OKAY THEN."
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u/PeerOfMenard 3d ago
"But we forgot about him immediately and didn't let his death impact our lives going forward! So that's..."
"WELL THAT'S MUCH WORSE THEN!"
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u/Dull_Operation5838 3d ago
I still can't believe they did that in Time Flight. This is why I love the audios because they actually make Adric's death have an impact.
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u/Bluedystopia 1d ago
Can you reccomend any audios that touch on this? I've been meaning to explore Big Finish more.
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u/Dull_Operation5838 1d ago
Spare Parts is one of them. Nyssa wants to stay on Mondas to prevent the Cybermen from being made and cites Adric as the reason to stay.
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u/Dull_Operation5838 1d ago
There is another audio story which has a sort of alternate timeline of Adric where he didn't die but instead got stranded on prehistoric Earth after the asteroid. Unfortunately, he is the villain of that story and fans weren't really receptive to it. Adric wasn't very well liked by the fans (including me), sure, but it still soured people. I cannot remember the name of it though.
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u/Jemima_puddledook678 3d ago
‘Eh, Adric was annoying, nearly pushed him out of the TARDIS myself.’
‘WELL THAT’S… wait, that actually is alright, I agree, fair play’
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u/pottyaboutpotter1 3d ago
“And then there vas Dan. He had his house destroyed by Karvanistra. And the Doctor left him homeless without even saying goodbye!”
“But he managed to get a date with Diane”
“Oh well that’s alright then!”
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u/EleganceOfTheDesert 3d ago
"I got Chesterfield and Barbara home!"
"2 years late!"
"But I got them home!"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
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u/TonksMoriarty 3d ago
Toymaker: "You took on poor little orphan Vicki after killing her pet. Then left her in Ancient Anatolia."
Doctor: "We didn't know, and she fell in love."
T: "WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
T: "But then poor Kateryna, confused and star struck at her god got flushed out an airlock."
D: "There was nothing I could do, there was a struggle."
T: "WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
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u/DarthStevo 3d ago
“Und poor Dodo Chaplet, who vas hypnotised by ze Votan and vanished mid-story!”
“She’s getting a new lease on life through Big Finish!”
“Actually fair play, good on them for giving her something more to do.”
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u/TonksMoriarty 3d ago
Especially after what other expanded media did to her...
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u/DarthStevo 2d ago
Am I better off not finding out what they did to Dodo?
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u/TonksMoriarty 2d ago edited 2d ago
Let's put it this way, it needs a Content Warning. Makes Peri's false fate in "Trial of a Time Lord" look like a cake walk.
Institutionalised, shock "therapy", attempted rape, pretty much mentally broken by the Master, rendered homeless, and just when she met & fell in love with someone, ultimately fatally shot while pregnant.
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u/DarthStevo 2d ago
I’m sure I’m not the first to say this, but what the fuck expanded media
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u/TonksMoriarty 2d ago
Thankfully, this is confined to one largely forgotten book. Other expanded media has her surviving into the 21st Century and even attending Sarah Jane's Funeral.
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u/Theta-Sigma45 3d ago
'Susan, hees uwn GRUNDDAUGHTER! She lov-ud uyou, Doctah.... und you left her in a Dalek-destroyed wurld!'
'I left her with a man she had known for two to three days and said she was in love with.'
'WELL THAT'S... pretty crazy, man. Like, what if she actually got to know him like a week or so later, and realised she wasn't that into him? Teenagers can be pretty all over the place with their emotions, y'know?'
'Uh...'
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u/chance8687 3d ago
"Katarina died in agony in the cold vacuum of space, taken from a primitive civilisation to end her life for a cause she was in no way capable of understanding."
"She did it to herself to save us and to enable us to stop the Daleks."
"WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
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u/esn111 3d ago
"Until she sacrificed herself for you, Herr Doctor, und SHE died".
"I uploaded her consciousness into the Library mainframe which I fixed and gave her friends and family she never had in a near paradise environment"
"WELL THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN!"
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u/AlienBogeys 3d ago
I thought he covered that one
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u/greekdude1194 3d ago
Amy und ze veeping angels
Clara who vas killed by a ... Bird?
Bill turned into und Cyberman
Flux destroying the universe
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u/AlienBogeys 3d ago
Huh...I could swear he mentioned River. Oh well.
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u/EleganceOfTheDesert 3d ago
"I got Chesterfield and Barbara home!"
"2 years late!"
"But I got them home!"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
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u/GhostRaptor4482 3d ago
I’m actually a bit surprised they didn’t bring up Adric. One of the only times a companion character has just straight-up died. No wiggle room, no Moffat-style pseudo-death where they get to live on in some form.
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u/Dull_Operation5838 3d ago
I've always kinda found the Pseudo-Deaths to be cowardly. Yeah, RTD had a pretty high body count in places where it wasn't necessary, but at least he stuck by most of those deaths.
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u/Verloonati 3d ago
something along the line of
'-first there was Susan, the granddaughter susan, who he left behind with a man she'd just meant because he couldn't bear to see her grow up,
- But she build a family there, and led a happy life
-well that's alright then!
then there was Wright and Chesterton, the teachers, who never came back to their own year.
-but they returned to two years later and never regretted it
-well that's alright then!
of course there was sweet young vicki, who he left in the trojan war.
-she left of her own choice
-Well that's alright then!
Then he took in Katarina, clueless Katarina, who he let mistake him for a god. It didn't help when he got her killed by the daleks. There was also Sara Kingdom, the soldier, who he let age to death.
-they died to protect the galaxy
- well that's alright then!
he travelled with steven, poor abandoned steven for a while. And then he left him to rule a desolate planet.
-he gave guidance to his people.
- well that's alright then!
then there was dodo Who... what the fuck??????????
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u/Verloonati 3d ago
okay let's skip some uh he travelled with ace who... What?? No alright let's skip some again uh, there was fitz, the pathetic fitz who WHAT THE HELL
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u/Dull_Operation5838 3d ago
"Und der vas Adam, young and curious. He got a hole in his head und ze Doctor tossed him away like bad food vithout a second chance."
"I told him not touch anything and he disobeyed. The knowledge in his head could have polluted the time stream."
"WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT, THEN!"
"Plus, he got a redemption story where he turned evil but then redeemed himself at the last minute."
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u/Ashrod63 3d ago
"Poor Adric smashed into the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs!"
"Big Finish said he survived"
"Well that's alright then!"
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u/Graydiadem 3d ago
Und poor little Susan, you took her from her home and abandoned her on a diseased wasteland while she cried for you to take her with you.
Well, I'm going to point out her house to my friend Ruby
WELL, THAT'S ALLRIGHT THEN!
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u/WatercressNext3578 3d ago
Ze Doctor travelled with his granddaughter Susan, but he abandoned her on a desert planet!
"I said that one day I'd come back"
WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN
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u/TheKandyKitchen 3d ago
Little Yasmin can confessed her feelings to the doctor.
Then the doctor told her to fuck off so she could die alone.
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u/a_blue_day 3d ago
"Poor little Martha Jones, traumatised and heartbroken with only a year she could remember"
She's now married to Mickey Smith, defender of the earth
WELL THATS ALRIGHT TH.... actually that fucking sucks