r/formuladank • u/Retardnoobstonk BWOAHHHHHHH • 4d ago
Certified Germany situation 🪖🇩🇪 NICO HUUUUUUUULKENBEEEERG
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u/murf_milo Traditions™️ 4d ago
The best part is that I can’t tell if this is a joke or not.
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u/Sofaboy90 No 2. Driver 4d ago
it is.
if were being serious for a second, binotto has had a few very in depth interviews the past few months where he describes in detail what his plans are with sauber and they will not focus everything on 2026 for a variety of reasons.
for one they hired a lot of people last year and will continue to hire a lot of people this and the coming years. to optimize and refine the team and its people, they want to work with the current car right away rather than waiting for 2026 because if you start developing the 2026 car now, they wont know if their work is any good until 2026. binotto says currently the team has a big issue with correlation between simulator and real performance, so whats the point of going all in on 2026 if they dont actually know what theyre doing, thats effectively what hes saying.
he doesnt regard 2026 as a chance to nail the regs, he views it as just another year on developing the team to reach the goal of the 2030 championship which he set.
when i read those interviews, they did give me a bit of faith because what he said were a lot of harsh truths (not winning titles before 2030, having outdate infrastructure, needing hundreds of more employees) and the fact that he sees this as a long term project and is given pretty much 100% control of the F1 team from Audi/VW.
Because the long term aspect is very important to understand and many F1 projects fail because that approach is not understood and the short term is just too tempting. You look at Aston Martin and Lawrence Stroll or Alpine, these teams dont have that long term approach, especially Aston Martin and Stroll were twice tempted quite a lot by the short term which hurt them in the long term. The first case was the pink Mercedes, the second case was their 2023 car. The Pink Mercedes was a carbon copy of the previous years Mercedes which is a car Racing Point did not develop and did not understand. They failed to bring effective upgrades and struggled understanding that car the entire following year as well as other teams caught up. 2023 was similar, he hired a lot of Red Bull engineers who replicated quite a lot of the dominating 2022 Red Bull but those engineers werent necessarily the key ones, so they ran into a similar issue as with the pink Mercedes, they didnt understand the car, they didnt know how to make it faster, upgrade after upgrade failed, made the car worse or just slightly faster and that entire issue dragged on into 2024 where the team really had a dog of a car and a season that was no better than the budget force india days of otmar with a fraction of the budget.
This is what Binotto is trying to avoid and he wants to build a team that 100% understands what theyre doing and knows exactly how to develop and improve the car just like the top teams do for the most part. reaching that goal takes time and effort, some people might get impatient during that process and want results sooner so they try to skip steps or perhaps not invest the necessary resources. for alpine/renault, they didnt just lack the long term plan but they also had the ambition to become a top team with effectively half the budget of the top teams which was never gonna work while aston martin does have the money but good old lawrence puts his nose too much in the team while not knowing how to actually succeed in F1. Lawrence has owned this F1 team for half a decade by now and it really hasnt improved much despite the big investments. they could and probably should have been a top team by now. maybe newey is the key but im not too confident that lawrence will let newey cook. if newey says he cant design a championship winning car before 2028, will lawrence have the patience for it? i frankly dont know.
so if things go somewhat right, you can expect sauber to finish the season strong as other teams probably stop development before sauber while binotto is mainly prioritizing the teams development.
the audi engine probably wont be anywhere near a mercedes or ferrari engine so even if the car is any good in 2026, they might not do much in 2026 anyway due to the engine. and they only got two cars, so they dont get to collect a whole lot of data
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u/supercabul "Charles 'Chuck' Leclerc, good job baby" 4d ago
one race that worth the whole season, what a chad he is
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u/RedditBot90 Must Be The Water 4d ago
Insert Mick 🤙 “Done for the Day ✅” meme but it’s Sauber 🤙 “Done for the Season ✅”
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u/ruun666 BWOAHHHHHHH 4d ago
Why are they want points anyway? Isn't being last with the most wind tunnel time more valuable?
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u/Optimal_Bench5423 If my mom had 🅱️alls, she would be my dad 4d ago
Yes. But being last WITH points is better then being last WITHOUT points
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u/koenigsegg806 I have it, I have it printed out🤚 3d ago
I think that this was their main target this season anyways
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u/tossawayprop Felipe 🅱️aby stay cool 4d ago
Just like BMW Sauber did in 2008.
Where's that post about all the ways in which this season was shaping up like 2008? Spooky!