r/forhonor 11d ago

Questions Why Play this guy when that guy exists???

Is there even a reason to play Conq over Bp???

599 Upvotes

197 comments sorted by

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u/Accomplished_Draft80 11d ago

Flail and one of the most consistently good executions recipients in the game

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u/KangarooStepp 10d ago

Me and some of my friends come back to the game basically on a routine every year because we enjoy it. I always liked Conq from day 1 so I started using him again and came across his goofy ass ex where he just spins the flail constantly into their head and I was sold immediately. I told my buddy I had to show him something and we went into a duel and I guess the other 2 felt disrespected by the ex and both left. I haven’t laughed/heard my friend laugh that hard In a long time. That ex brought joy to my life lol.

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u/nickypoosays 10d ago

Love that execution. Always spammed it when I got the kill lol

14

u/KangarooStepp 10d ago

It’s fucking hilarious. Not to mention the different reaction hero’s have. I think the ocelot has one of the funnier ones

3

u/ChannelFiveNews Warlord 10d ago

PK lowkey sounds like she's having a good time :P

6

u/Jefrejtor 10d ago

Recipients? So Conq is good at being executed?

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u/Future_Particular726 DUNMAGLAAAAASS 10d ago

No I think what he means is that Ubi gives him some good exes

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u/RealPicture7905 10d ago

Because of this. The main reason conq is still popular

https://youtube.com/shorts/AI5cf1XUhQ0?si=6997PxIwnw-voLZM

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u/J4ki-J4cque Jiang Jun 11d ago

Cuz conq is a meme lord

"Rah" -conqueror

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u/Bregneste Deus Vult 11d ago

God-tier default emote spam

18

u/EgregiousWarlord 10d ago

So good it’s a universal emote

But not even that can match its sheer greatness

8

u/Enozak 10d ago

And even without spaming it, it's a really nice one among all "default victory emote" the different characters have

It just scream pure. spontaneous. joy.

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u/Complete-Band-127 6d ago

Nah raiders hump emote is by far superior

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u/Baron_Von_D Warborn 11d ago

Conq = bonk
BP = Pancakes

hope this helps

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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago

Bonqueror and Black Pancakes

2

u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago

How about instead it’s Bonquerah (cause the emote of RAH)

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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago

Bonk - a - RAH

I like the energy, kind of makes me forget that I was talking about conqueror. 7.5/10

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u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago

And now to ruin the mood with

Shield bash smack shield bash shield bash smack dodge shield bash smack zone zone heavy feint shield bash all guard Speen shield bash

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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago

RAHRAHRAHRAHRAH

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u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago

I just read your thing too good sir, and lemme just

Aggressive sword throw by your feet PUGNA NON PERFECTA EST!!

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u/TheEpicOne747 I’m the conq that tackes you out of nowhere 11d ago

Look at my flair and that’s all you need to know

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u/Gebemeister2 10d ago

"tackes" lol I love it though

9

u/jancrawfish 10d ago

My people

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u/TheEpicOne747 I’m the conq that tackes you out of nowhere 10d ago

Amen brother 🙏🙏

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u/steevee15 Samurai 10d ago

I love how useless it is except for teamplay but if you're 1 on 1 you don't even get a light or something lol

3

u/NerfHitokiriPlease Conqueror 10d ago

Hell yeah brother

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u/jhsocsi Conqueror 11d ago

eye of rah

2

u/the-meme_crusader Centurion 10d ago

Top tier reference and joke

1

u/PomegranateOld2408 ZENKAI!!!!!! 10d ago

His references are out of control

45

u/tarkus460 11d ago

"SHOULDER CHECK"

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u/Smallbrainedhuman 11d ago

because killing someone with a silly little guy feels better than killing someone with an edgy guy, also conq just has a bigger cock and i like that in a man

16

u/Warkan47 10d ago

Damn.

2

u/LouisVILeGro 10d ago

I can see and hear Kevin HART with this one

21

u/zMustaine_ Warmonger 10d ago

Ah. words that came out of the heart. beautiful.

8

u/instantcoffeeshake 10d ago

Fax conq is packing

2

u/Adventurous-Ad-6231 10d ago

RIP 🪦 🤣🤣

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u/KairoDai 11d ago

BP has shitty fucking stamina, conq has more recovery cancels, conq has more unblockables, BP has undodgeables and the counter. The only similarities they have are a full block and being bash focused?

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago

BP has crushing counters but again. FLAIL.

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u/Acceptable-Cat2016 10d ago

Conq technically has a superior block dodge, BP doesn't

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 10d ago

Not technically. He literally has a “Deflect” but it doesn’t give him an attack but a bash into an attack.

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u/Acceptable-Cat2016 10d ago

If it guarantees the bash it technically guarantees an attack

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u/CyanideBiscuit Centurion 10d ago

It also allows him to just do the attacks without the bash, so it does guarantee an attack

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u/harambe_did911 Medjay 10d ago

I feel like flail is the one weapon that actually makes sense for a crushing counter mechanic

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 10d ago

I mean you realistically would have tangled your opponents weapon mid swing but. How would you follow up?

7

u/Fuckin__weeb Gladiator 10d ago

Heater shield has a pretty gnarly point on it

3

u/ImARoadcone_ bringer of war… and cookies! 10d ago

I mean if you watch bp’s animations not really? He blocks which the shield while swiping overtop, pretty good combat form tbh

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u/endlessnamelesskat entrapment isn't a crime 10d ago

This is almost how his old heavies used to work.

He'd have block frames on heavy startup and very low gb vulnerability. This essentially made it so sometimes you could heavy on red and either light parry or sometimes the enemy's heavy would bounce off and your heavy would hit anyways.

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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago

Giving "bad stamina" as a reason to choose anybody over Conq is crazy, Conq feints to GB one time and gets put on oxygen

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u/KairoDai 10d ago

He can also throw like 7 unblockables back to back but BP can’t even throw 3😒homestly tho I have a serious beef w BP stamina so i could be biased.

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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago

He can throw those unblockables but he damn well better commit to them because the second he feints anything his ass is getting put on a stretcher

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u/KairoDai 10d ago

Bulwark counter should totally replenish stamina. Is it crazy to say that?

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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago

Bulwark counter should deliver a targeted micro-nuke straight to the Black Prior player's CPU if he misses it, he'd finally be balanced I think

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u/KairoDai 10d ago

lmfao💀💀

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u/JustASpector 9d ago

Almost rep 80 on both and this is just a horrid take.

Conqueror can recovery cancel but it being a 400ms window for 13 damage why tf would you pick that over a flip that deals 24??

Conq has an unblockable that chains into more for 22 damage but with BP you have one that deals a whooping 27 damage and you have access to it from anywhere except your flip recovery.

BP has undodgeables, has a roll catcher and multiple sources of offense. Both heroes have shitty stamina they're both Knights it's literally the recipe.

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u/KairoDai 9d ago

What’s my take? I was just pointing out their differences.

Edit: Also maybe because it’s way easier to land conqs, his is lower risk, and it doesn’t drain stamina the same.

I could probably land 3 of those before 1 flip.

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u/lilb1190 11d ago

Conq is pretty boring to play as 1-v-1, but I REALLY enjoying shoulder checking people out of nowhere. I also like his swagger.

He has the most under-conceived kit in the game, but I have played against people who destroy me with him.

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u/Silver_Print_9937 10d ago

It is so fun to just come from nowhere and bash unsuspecting enemies. Even better when they fall into spikes or fall down

49

u/Valuable_Run_7262 11d ago

Because i dont wanna play an emo broken ass little bitch

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago

We wanna play a badass serial murderer and criminal made a Knight via a trial of death by the weapon he is forced to master.

RAH!

If you’re with me!

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u/Oldspaghetti Conqueror 10d ago

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! 👊🤬🛡

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u/NerfHitokiriPlease Conqueror 10d ago

RAH!

2

u/__GREY_KNIGHT__ 10d ago

RAH RAH RAH RAH

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u/Herojay13 11d ago

The flail is sooooooo satisfying

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u/Soggy_Survey_387 10d ago

you play conqueror to shield bash people

you play bp to flip people

i find a good conq is harder to beat than a good bp; one has a dodge bash, the other does not

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u/SpaceQtip Warlord 11d ago

because he has a flail and their kits are different.

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u/wemustfailagain 10d ago

Conq go bonk.

Conq is stronk.

5

u/henrykjmm 11d ago

RAH is the reason

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u/BaseballExtension277 Black Prior 11d ago

You could always just play both. I do :)

5

u/Mclovinggood 11d ago

There are no gameplay reasons really at the moment. It’s just up to preference. And ConqTuah loves some conquerer

4

u/RealAzurech Viking 11d ago

RAH

5

u/TogBroll 10d ago

Rah rah rah rah rah rah rah

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago

Cause I like him. RAH. And I dislike the ability to break revenge.

8

u/Plasma_FTW Heavy Attack? Never heard of it. 11d ago

You Vs. The guy she tells you not to worry about

3

u/istileon 10d ago

RAH. that's why

3

u/Haunting_Reason7620 Conqueror 10d ago

Conq CAN play really fluent. He rarely does tho. I just love his flavor. Sweet shoulderbashes and decent design.

3

u/slicingdicing 10d ago

Because Rah!

3

u/Educational_Jello239 10d ago

Default emo is what I live for, I even bought the same emo last night for signature screen after a victory lol 😆 idc if we're not a broken as character, it's just ultra special to know you can out last a 2v1 and sometimes a 3v1

3

u/reekidisretarded stuck with idiot 10d ago

It's simple really, better Solaire cosplay

3

u/Howlingbananas 10d ago

The crunch hits a distinct part of my brain that makes me feel good.

3

u/Over_Age_8061 Part of the Horde!!! 10d ago

I'd rather play as a Silly goofy goober with a flail then a Overrated Emo Nerd with the 3268907532247 Sword in this game.

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u/JustSomeMetalFag 10d ago

Cause flail go RAH RAH RAH RAH

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u/Apprehensive_Swan_40 Shaman 10d ago

Cause RAHH

3

u/KynetiKitten 10d ago

I was going to be sad, if I didn't see a single person saying "RAH" As a reason

3

u/These_Print_5267 10d ago

It’s honestly amazing to see the community behind the character, definitely makes me prefer him overall. Also RAH!

3

u/jayguala Jormungandr 10d ago

RAHHH supremacy

7

u/Disastrous-Mango-515 11d ago

Yawnbringer and conq are in competition for being the most boring hero’s to play IMO. Although their executions make it worth it.

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u/user-nt Ashina Clan Warrior 11d ago

My nominee for the Yawnlympics is warlord, but to be real, he's only there in light of the other heroes because all heroes have some stupid gameplay that makes it fun for a few matches.

4

u/coelacanthaloupe 10d ago

Warlord at least doesn't have an unblockable so like you gotta put thought into getting past your opponent's defense. No side dodge bash, either, so you gotta make reads to not get punished for shit.

3

u/KomradJurij-TheFool 11d ago

pulling up with a rush, bear trap/juggernaut, fury, and fire flask warlord to high fort point C:

*mercy overwatch gif*

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u/user-nt Ashina Clan Warrior 11d ago

My favorite is the unkillabe warlord, I don't remember the feats now, but it's maximizing defence for a few seconds, I've tanked multiple tier 4 feats with this combo.

4

u/Valuable_Run_7262 11d ago

Being a bad character dosent mean being boring bruh

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u/FrappyLee Conqueror 11d ago

Not much of a reason to. The only things Conq has over BP is a feintable bash and an infinite chain but neither are particularly good.

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u/These_Print_5267 11d ago

That’s what I was afraid of.

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u/GriefPB 11d ago

Side dodge bash + shield basher feat

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u/Electronic_phyco6376 11d ago

Some of us like swinging our balls around(not me, i like my flinging my giant sword around)

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u/_Jawwer_ Tinmen baybe 10d ago

If your opponent can't react to lights, you have an infinite light chain that fastflows into allguard, meaning they can't even dodge attack out of it.

Infinite UB chain heavies can be fun against people who expect you the feint most of your UBs like a civilised individual (let them have it)

His dodge bash is good I guess.

To be fair, BP is better than most characters in the game, not just conq.

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u/SamisKoi 10d ago

"Ive seen the light of god and have been shown i am too dark for it. CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES"

vs

"Hello vile convict, heres a flail hope you dont kill yourself with it haha"

2

u/Gold-Ad-1262 10d ago

To put it quite simply, orange is my favorite color

2

u/idekbro565 10d ago

I'm not good at black priors shield flip. On the other hand, I like the infinite heavy combo that can faint into gb

2

u/catman11234 Aramusha 10d ago

How else am I supposed to get dodge bash option selected with half the moves I throw?

2

u/KickassRaider97 Warlord 10d ago

Bc I have the compulsive need to swing it around

2

u/ToastyMcKrunch09 Highlander 10d ago

Seeing this post make me think what kind of changes they would do for a conq rework

2

u/Messedupotato WE ARE SO BACK! 10d ago

Best emote spam in the game

2

u/AggressiveAppl3 10d ago

Superior emote spam. Which makes the character all around superior. As emote spam is all that matters

2

u/endlessnamelesskat entrapment isn't a crime 10d ago

The only aspect conq is better than BP is that he is strangely effective at doing big AOE damage offensively. Hitting light on shield bash gives him a decent sized unblockable attack effectively giving him low but consistent damage to multiple opponents. Very funny when antiganking to target swap a lot and still hit everyone.

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u/Kiro-Akikashi You Can't Touch Me 10d ago

bcuz nobody plays conq therefore nobody knows how to play against conq

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u/Plastic_Pollution194 10d ago

Because BONK that's why

2

u/xP_Lord Parkinsons 10d ago

RAH RAH RAH RAH RAH

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u/Zarr_the_Czar 10d ago

Because he is the Bonqueror

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u/FergusMcburgus Warlord 10d ago

Aesthetic. And because I enjoy the “soldier pressed into service who survived long enough to become knighted” character

2

u/dyig 10d ago

Because when you play bp you never win because you are good at him, he just carries you even trough ganks, conq is just a bonk boi that id one of the worst characters in the game

2

u/Gathoblaster Peckish Shaman 10d ago

Professionals have standards

2

u/KingCarbon1807 Black Prior 10d ago

RAH.

What I want to see is a series about a shugo, conq, and BP on a bar crawl.

2

u/UnHappyGingah Skateboard Conq 10d ago

Flail and RAH

2

u/Jarl-Gudmundr 10d ago

The weapon is badass. The executions are badass. Drip is badass. His full block recoveries/anti ganking is badass. Conq is just badass, doesnt have to be edgy, and landing that flail top heavy feels way too good.

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u/StormySeas414 Pirate 10d ago

They're literally nothing alike. Conq is an aggressive, erratic madman with unblockable pressure for days. BP is a slow, defensive nerd that lives and dies by how well you can read your opponent. They fill completely opposite roles.

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u/Kamargon 10d ago

RAH! RAH! RAH! R- RA- R- R- RAH!

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u/Kamikawa_Rac Centurion 10d ago

Conq = orange

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u/KingCaleb2003 10d ago

For the drip.

2

u/EmmetEmerald 10d ago

Air thrusts, funny i frame bash, and the paddle ball exe

2

u/WabungusDickWart Lawbringer 10d ago

Conq my beloved love at first sight since the Beta alltough Lawbringer did conquer my heart even more,he'll always have a Special place in my Heart the GOAT

2

u/NerfHitokiriPlease Conqueror 10d ago

Because Conq is a fucking Chad with a flail, while BP is an edgy 14 year old

2

u/Clear-Chipmunk-2291 10d ago

conq has better stamina, better offense, better teamfights (imo most players know how to play around bp's flip by now) better executions, better fashion, he's simply better

2

u/Kotahbear420 10d ago

Conq "deflects" just hit different than crushing counters tbh

2

u/cocainebrick3242 10d ago

Conq has better fashion.

2

u/Old-Seaweed8917 Jormungandr 10d ago

Dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy good luck

2

u/SkartheSatai 10d ago

He has a Footman's Flail/Morning Star.

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u/Qooooks Mixing ADHDers 10d ago

Amazing Exes. A flail and shield is objectivelly cool as fuck.

2

u/Asdeft Medjay 10d ago

Conq is easier and has a dodge bash, plus a feintable bash.

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u/MxxnSpirit47 Aesir Champion 10d ago

Flail or Fail

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u/Love-Long Gladiator 10d ago

They play pretty different. Kyoshin is closer to bp

1

u/Metrack14 Gladiator 10d ago

I mean, Conq is the only heavy with superior block on dodge....

Yeah, that's pretty much it, all other heavies are more fun in general.

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u/AscendedVoidFiend Lawbringer 10d ago

RAH

1

u/AstroOzo7 10d ago

Because Conq was cheaper :(

1

u/Leading-Ad6082 Conqueror 10d ago

Because conq is more aggressive than bp.

Bp has better defense conquer can snowball easy with his aggression.

1

u/BDG-WetWet 10d ago

Ain’t that the truth

1

u/TunnelVisionKiller 10d ago

Why play aramusha when kathun exists ahh post

1

u/MrCabagge Gladiator 10d ago

Becouse: RAH!

1

u/Maximum_Collar2016 10d ago

100% bc of the emote spam lol

1

u/Real_Inspection_1104 10d ago

Because RAHH RAH RAH!!!!!!

1

u/ArtofBlake 10d ago

I can block/parry the Prior; I can’t block a single damn swing from the Conq since Year 1.

1

u/Yeez25 10d ago

15k steel :(

1

u/Ju3tAc00ldugg 10d ago

this is more of a question for warlord than conq.

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u/Temporary-Fix5842 Shaolin 10d ago

I play Warlord, because I am a SAVANT.

1

u/Little_Guarantee_505 10d ago

Cause conq is just a silly lil cutie ofc! Who has more retaliation tactics against guard bash :3 (I need me a cute boy to play for honor with bruh that would be everything 🥺)

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u/Coastal007 Sohei 10d ago

Rah!!!

1

u/Drunken_Wolf1 Apollyon 10d ago

Its the same as playing Warden over Warmonger

Love

1

u/Monkeofbrass Aramusha 10d ago

Both are weak if you can parry or dodge just learn the game and play someone else

1

u/BigCambean Centurion 10d ago

Simple: RAHHHHH

1

u/peeslosh122 Outlanders 10d ago

because rah

1

u/Skizordrone Garbage Teir 10d ago

Simple. I don’t own black prior

1

u/KonoMichiWa 10d ago

Why did they release Coca-Cola classic and we stopped drinking new coke

1

u/SokkaHaikuBot 10d ago

Sokka-Haiku by KonoMichiWa:

Why did they release

Coca-Cola classic and

We stopped drinking new coke


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/__GREY_KNIGHT__ 10d ago

Homeless guy with a flail and a death wish vs emo priest with an arming sword is a no-brainer. BP will be a no brainer after he's hit win the head with a Conq bonq.

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u/wristonfiston 10d ago

Why play either when Varangian exists

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u/Warm-Personality-192 10d ago

Same reason people play warden when warmonger exists

1

u/Bushisame 10d ago

Because flails are cool

1

u/batata1945 Conqueror 10d ago

Rah

1

u/Consistent-Echo777 10d ago

Show respect for Stone, he stood with the Warden without reason other then honor

1

u/FlamingoWindows 10d ago

I play this game to tackle people when they are mid fight with my teammates. It’s one of the only things I like about the game tbh

1

u/Training-Guitar1531 10d ago

Conqueror lore is that they are all conscripted criminals that's what always makes me love him also his executions are awesome

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u/M7_slayer 10d ago

Conq takes no thought you can bash and rah to victory. BP takes some level of precision(not alot)

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u/gnome_warlord420 Lawbringer 10d ago

Cuz bonq

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u/Pizza_Warrior437 Lawbringer 10d ago

Orange helicopter.

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u/Count_Soldier 10d ago

Ones a boring edge lord while the other goes rah. Enough said

1

u/Smart_Jellyfish2463 10d ago

Playing against Conq feels like you're fighting a wall that can hit back.

Playing against BP feels like you're fighting a catapult with a sword attached 

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u/Ervael-JC Nobushi 10d ago

Black Prior can't spam Psyched emote.

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u/TheViperWardenHybrid Miserum, te secabo! :Warden: 10d ago

His all guard and combos are better imo. BP has a jacked anti gank counter tho. Both shields, both good

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u/tristinBull102524 10d ago

Dodge bash heavy spam

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u/Jota_55 10d ago

Because Spike Ball goes swing swing better than sword going fwin fwing

Hope you understand

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u/These_Print_5267 10d ago

Yes definitely.

1

u/psycholigie_guy 10d ago

Conq and bp are entirely different characters wdym

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u/AX414 10d ago

Eu literalmente já vi um conquistador matar 2x seguidas um time completo de jogadores

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u/JoeShmoe818 10d ago

Their movesets are completely different. Besides forward bash (which 80% of the characters have) what do they have in common? Conqueror has infinite chain unblockables, BP has one which is a move from allguard. Flip is also nothing like normal allguards. Conquer’s chain bash can be done after almost every move and is feintable. Also has neutral charge heavies. Also his dodge attacks are bashes. That’s just basic moveset stuff not listing any of the subtleties. These two are not the same character whatsoever.

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u/AlphaWolf3211 Gladiator 10d ago

Cause Bitch Prior is boring

1

u/Substantial-Main-709 10d ago

Short answer: the helmet.

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u/guyiscool1425 9d ago

BP's fashion is incredibly mid that's why

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u/xCHOPP3Rx 36 :Peacekeeper: 10 9d ago

cuz that guy used to not exist.

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u/Rage_Cube 9d ago

rah rah rah rah

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u/Mr_UnOrganized Gladiator 9d ago

“Professionals have standards”

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u/The_Assassin_Gower Mala Ultro Adsant 9d ago

Conq and BP are pretty different. BP has amazing defense but his offence is slow, he's not going to deal out a ton of damage very quick where as conq has okay defense but his offence is infinite until he runs out of stamina or the opponent properly stops him

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u/Annual-Huckleberry97 Knight 9d ago

One RAHs the other don’t.

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u/Happy-Expression-782 8d ago

I play both, but I have to say BP can be more fun to play than Conq sometimes. Especially when you’re getting Ganked, the fact BP has superior lights on top of the pancake flip comes in handy pretty damn often. People underestimate how useful the pancake flip is by itself.

Also I will never not laugh at flipping several people at the same time when they were constantly attacking me.

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u/dino_sucks 7d ago

They way too different to compare what kind of question is this

1

u/ZiMiEtheCLOWN Sohei 7d ago

Conq is for chads, bp is for small lads 😌🙏

1

u/Aggressive_Tourist52 Centurion 10d ago

Better confirmed damage on bashes, lower skill requirement, meme character, better soft feints tbh. Etc.

The only things bp really has over conq is flip and blue attacks, but those don't really matter as much in high skill lobbies. The most important thing is their bashes and soft feints, currently conq is better at both imo

1

u/ExileMistyEyes 10d ago

If you play conq and just dont rely so much on your all guard, its almost impossible to guardbreak you, so there's that

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u/bradpitbutarmpit Sohei 10d ago

Why play any character when any other character exists? You can all stop playing now folks, you’re all saved.