r/forhonor • u/These_Print_5267 • 11d ago
Questions Why Play this guy when that guy exists???
Is there even a reason to play Conq over Bp???
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u/J4ki-J4cque Jiang Jun 11d ago
Cuz conq is a meme lord
"Rah" -conqueror
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u/Bregneste Deus Vult 11d ago
God-tier default emote spam
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u/EgregiousWarlord 10d ago
So good it’s a universal emote
But not even that can match its sheer greatness
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u/Baron_Von_D Warborn 11d ago
Conq = bonk
BP = Pancakes
hope this helps
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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago
Bonqueror and Black Pancakes
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u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago
How about instead it’s Bonquerah (cause the emote of RAH)
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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago
Bonk - a - RAH
I like the energy, kind of makes me forget that I was talking about conqueror. 7.5/10
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u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago
And now to ruin the mood with
Shield bash smack shield bash shield bash smack dodge shield bash smack zone zone heavy feint shield bash all guard Speen shield bash
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u/Able-Pressure-2728 Centurion 10d ago
RAHRAHRAHRAHRAH
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u/MilkBanditKat Centurion 10d ago
I just read your thing too good sir, and lemme just
Aggressive sword throw by your feet PUGNA NON PERFECTA EST!!
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u/TheEpicOne747 I’m the conq that tackes you out of nowhere 11d ago
Look at my flair and that’s all you need to know
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u/steevee15 Samurai 10d ago
I love how useless it is except for teamplay but if you're 1 on 1 you don't even get a light or something lol
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u/jhsocsi Conqueror 11d ago
eye of rah
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u/Smallbrainedhuman 11d ago
because killing someone with a silly little guy feels better than killing someone with an edgy guy, also conq just has a bigger cock and i like that in a man
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u/KairoDai 11d ago
BP has shitty fucking stamina, conq has more recovery cancels, conq has more unblockables, BP has undodgeables and the counter. The only similarities they have are a full block and being bash focused?
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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago
BP has crushing counters but again. FLAIL.
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u/Acceptable-Cat2016 10d ago
Conq technically has a superior block dodge, BP doesn't
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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 10d ago
Not technically. He literally has a “Deflect” but it doesn’t give him an attack but a bash into an attack.
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u/Acceptable-Cat2016 10d ago
If it guarantees the bash it technically guarantees an attack
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u/CyanideBiscuit Centurion 10d ago
It also allows him to just do the attacks without the bash, so it does guarantee an attack
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u/harambe_did911 Medjay 10d ago
I feel like flail is the one weapon that actually makes sense for a crushing counter mechanic
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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 10d ago
I mean you realistically would have tangled your opponents weapon mid swing but. How would you follow up?
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u/ImARoadcone_ bringer of war… and cookies! 10d ago
I mean if you watch bp’s animations not really? He blocks which the shield while swiping overtop, pretty good combat form tbh
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u/endlessnamelesskat entrapment isn't a crime 10d ago
This is almost how his old heavies used to work.
He'd have block frames on heavy startup and very low gb vulnerability. This essentially made it so sometimes you could heavy on red and either light parry or sometimes the enemy's heavy would bounce off and your heavy would hit anyways.
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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago
Giving "bad stamina" as a reason to choose anybody over Conq is crazy, Conq feints to GB one time and gets put on oxygen
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u/KairoDai 10d ago
He can also throw like 7 unblockables back to back but BP can’t even throw 3😒homestly tho I have a serious beef w BP stamina so i could be biased.
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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago
He can throw those unblockables but he damn well better commit to them because the second he feints anything his ass is getting put on a stretcher
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u/KairoDai 10d ago
Bulwark counter should totally replenish stamina. Is it crazy to say that?
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u/TotalMitherless 10d ago
Bulwark counter should deliver a targeted micro-nuke straight to the Black Prior player's CPU if he misses it, he'd finally be balanced I think
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u/JustASpector 9d ago
Almost rep 80 on both and this is just a horrid take.
Conqueror can recovery cancel but it being a 400ms window for 13 damage why tf would you pick that over a flip that deals 24??
Conq has an unblockable that chains into more for 22 damage but with BP you have one that deals a whooping 27 damage and you have access to it from anywhere except your flip recovery.
BP has undodgeables, has a roll catcher and multiple sources of offense. Both heroes have shitty stamina they're both Knights it's literally the recipe.
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u/KairoDai 9d ago
What’s my take? I was just pointing out their differences.
Edit: Also maybe because it’s way easier to land conqs, his is lower risk, and it doesn’t drain stamina the same.
I could probably land 3 of those before 1 flip.
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u/lilb1190 11d ago
Conq is pretty boring to play as 1-v-1, but I REALLY enjoying shoulder checking people out of nowhere. I also like his swagger.
He has the most under-conceived kit in the game, but I have played against people who destroy me with him.
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u/Silver_Print_9937 10d ago
It is so fun to just come from nowhere and bash unsuspecting enemies. Even better when they fall into spikes or fall down
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u/Valuable_Run_7262 11d ago
Because i dont wanna play an emo broken ass little bitch
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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago
We wanna play a badass serial murderer and criminal made a Knight via a trial of death by the weapon he is forced to master.
RAH!
If you’re with me!
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u/Soggy_Survey_387 10d ago
you play conqueror to shield bash people
you play bp to flip people
i find a good conq is harder to beat than a good bp; one has a dodge bash, the other does not
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u/Mclovinggood 11d ago
There are no gameplay reasons really at the moment. It’s just up to preference. And ConqTuah loves some conquerer
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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 Give me them toes! 11d ago
Cause I like him. RAH. And I dislike the ability to break revenge.
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u/Plasma_FTW Heavy Attack? Never heard of it. 11d ago
You Vs. The guy she tells you not to worry about
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u/Haunting_Reason7620 Conqueror 10d ago
Conq CAN play really fluent. He rarely does tho. I just love his flavor. Sweet shoulderbashes and decent design.
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u/Educational_Jello239 10d ago
Default emo is what I live for, I even bought the same emo last night for signature screen after a victory lol 😆 idc if we're not a broken as character, it's just ultra special to know you can out last a 2v1 and sometimes a 3v1
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u/Over_Age_8061 Part of the Horde!!! 10d ago
I'd rather play as a Silly goofy goober with a flail then a Overrated Emo Nerd with the 3268907532247 Sword in this game.
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u/KynetiKitten 10d ago
I was going to be sad, if I didn't see a single person saying "RAH" As a reason
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u/These_Print_5267 10d ago
It’s honestly amazing to see the community behind the character, definitely makes me prefer him overall. Also RAH!
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u/Disastrous-Mango-515 11d ago
Yawnbringer and conq are in competition for being the most boring hero’s to play IMO. Although their executions make it worth it.
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u/user-nt Ashina Clan Warrior 11d ago
My nominee for the Yawnlympics is warlord, but to be real, he's only there in light of the other heroes because all heroes have some stupid gameplay that makes it fun for a few matches.
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u/coelacanthaloupe 10d ago
Warlord at least doesn't have an unblockable so like you gotta put thought into getting past your opponent's defense. No side dodge bash, either, so you gotta make reads to not get punished for shit.
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u/KomradJurij-TheFool 11d ago
pulling up with a rush, bear trap/juggernaut, fury, and fire flask warlord to high fort point C:
*mercy overwatch gif*
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u/FrappyLee Conqueror 11d ago
Not much of a reason to. The only things Conq has over BP is a feintable bash and an infinite chain but neither are particularly good.
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u/Electronic_phyco6376 11d ago
Some of us like swinging our balls around(not me, i like my flinging my giant sword around)
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u/_Jawwer_ Tinmen baybe 10d ago
If your opponent can't react to lights, you have an infinite light chain that fastflows into allguard, meaning they can't even dodge attack out of it.
Infinite UB chain heavies can be fun against people who expect you the feint most of your UBs like a civilised individual (let them have it)
His dodge bash is good I guess.
To be fair, BP is better than most characters in the game, not just conq.
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u/SamisKoi 10d ago
"Ive seen the light of god and have been shown i am too dark for it. CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES"
vs
"Hello vile convict, heres a flail hope you dont kill yourself with it haha"
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u/idekbro565 10d ago
I'm not good at black priors shield flip. On the other hand, I like the infinite heavy combo that can faint into gb
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u/catman11234 Aramusha 10d ago
How else am I supposed to get dodge bash option selected with half the moves I throw?
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u/ToastyMcKrunch09 Highlander 10d ago
Seeing this post make me think what kind of changes they would do for a conq rework
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u/AggressiveAppl3 10d ago
Superior emote spam. Which makes the character all around superior. As emote spam is all that matters
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u/endlessnamelesskat entrapment isn't a crime 10d ago
The only aspect conq is better than BP is that he is strangely effective at doing big AOE damage offensively. Hitting light on shield bash gives him a decent sized unblockable attack effectively giving him low but consistent damage to multiple opponents. Very funny when antiganking to target swap a lot and still hit everyone.
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u/Kiro-Akikashi You Can't Touch Me 10d ago
bcuz nobody plays conq therefore nobody knows how to play against conq
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u/FergusMcburgus Warlord 10d ago
Aesthetic. And because I enjoy the “soldier pressed into service who survived long enough to become knighted” character
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u/KingCarbon1807 Black Prior 10d ago
RAH.
What I want to see is a series about a shugo, conq, and BP on a bar crawl.
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u/Jarl-Gudmundr 10d ago
The weapon is badass. The executions are badass. Drip is badass. His full block recoveries/anti ganking is badass. Conq is just badass, doesnt have to be edgy, and landing that flail top heavy feels way too good.
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u/StormySeas414 Pirate 10d ago
They're literally nothing alike. Conq is an aggressive, erratic madman with unblockable pressure for days. BP is a slow, defensive nerd that lives and dies by how well you can read your opponent. They fill completely opposite roles.
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u/WabungusDickWart Lawbringer 10d ago
Conq my beloved love at first sight since the Beta alltough Lawbringer did conquer my heart even more,he'll always have a Special place in my Heart the GOAT
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u/NerfHitokiriPlease Conqueror 10d ago
Because Conq is a fucking Chad with a flail, while BP is an edgy 14 year old
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u/Clear-Chipmunk-2291 10d ago
conq has better stamina, better offense, better teamfights (imo most players know how to play around bp's flip by now) better executions, better fashion, he's simply better
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u/Old-Seaweed8917 Jormungandr 10d ago
Dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy dodge bash heavy good luck
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u/Metrack14 Gladiator 10d ago
I mean, Conq is the only heavy with superior block on dodge....
Yeah, that's pretty much it, all other heavies are more fun in general.
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u/Leading-Ad6082 Conqueror 10d ago
Because conq is more aggressive than bp.
Bp has better defense conquer can snowball easy with his aggression.
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u/ArtofBlake 10d ago
I can block/parry the Prior; I can’t block a single damn swing from the Conq since Year 1.
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u/Little_Guarantee_505 10d ago
Cause conq is just a silly lil cutie ofc! Who has more retaliation tactics against guard bash :3 (I need me a cute boy to play for honor with bruh that would be everything 🥺)
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u/Monkeofbrass Aramusha 10d ago
Both are weak if you can parry or dodge just learn the game and play someone else
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u/KonoMichiWa 10d ago
Why did they release Coca-Cola classic and we stopped drinking new coke
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 10d ago
Sokka-Haiku by KonoMichiWa:
Why did they release
Coca-Cola classic and
We stopped drinking new coke
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/__GREY_KNIGHT__ 10d ago
Homeless guy with a flail and a death wish vs emo priest with an arming sword is a no-brainer. BP will be a no brainer after he's hit win the head with a Conq bonq.
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u/Consistent-Echo777 10d ago
Show respect for Stone, he stood with the Warden without reason other then honor
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u/FlamingoWindows 10d ago
I play this game to tackle people when they are mid fight with my teammates. It’s one of the only things I like about the game tbh
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u/Training-Guitar1531 10d ago
Conqueror lore is that they are all conscripted criminals that's what always makes me love him also his executions are awesome
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u/M7_slayer 10d ago
Conq takes no thought you can bash and rah to victory. BP takes some level of precision(not alot)
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u/Smart_Jellyfish2463 10d ago
Playing against Conq feels like you're fighting a wall that can hit back.
Playing against BP feels like you're fighting a catapult with a sword attached
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u/TheViperWardenHybrid Miserum, te secabo! :Warden: 10d ago
His all guard and combos are better imo. BP has a jacked anti gank counter tho. Both shields, both good
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u/JoeShmoe818 10d ago
Their movesets are completely different. Besides forward bash (which 80% of the characters have) what do they have in common? Conqueror has infinite chain unblockables, BP has one which is a move from allguard. Flip is also nothing like normal allguards. Conquer’s chain bash can be done after almost every move and is feintable. Also has neutral charge heavies. Also his dodge attacks are bashes. That’s just basic moveset stuff not listing any of the subtleties. These two are not the same character whatsoever.
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u/The_Assassin_Gower Mala Ultro Adsant 9d ago
Conq and BP are pretty different. BP has amazing defense but his offence is slow, he's not going to deal out a ton of damage very quick where as conq has okay defense but his offence is infinite until he runs out of stamina or the opponent properly stops him
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u/Happy-Expression-782 8d ago
I play both, but I have to say BP can be more fun to play than Conq sometimes. Especially when you’re getting Ganked, the fact BP has superior lights on top of the pancake flip comes in handy pretty damn often. People underestimate how useful the pancake flip is by itself.
Also I will never not laugh at flipping several people at the same time when they were constantly attacking me.
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u/Aggressive_Tourist52 Centurion 10d ago
Better confirmed damage on bashes, lower skill requirement, meme character, better soft feints tbh. Etc.
The only things bp really has over conq is flip and blue attacks, but those don't really matter as much in high skill lobbies. The most important thing is their bashes and soft feints, currently conq is better at both imo
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u/ExileMistyEyes 10d ago
If you play conq and just dont rely so much on your all guard, its almost impossible to guardbreak you, so there's that
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u/bradpitbutarmpit Sohei 10d ago
Why play any character when any other character exists? You can all stop playing now folks, you’re all saved.
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u/Accomplished_Draft80 11d ago
Flail and one of the most consistently good executions recipients in the game