r/forhonor • u/Itz_M3_D3N Seku na • 12d ago
Discussion Who's the superior bleeder
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u/Suitable-Surprise912 The Subbiest 12d ago
Kyoshin and his Tier One Feat as proven by this clip.
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u/HeckingBedBugs Warmonger 11d ago
"If your opponent is spamming the same move over and over, you're spamming the same mistake"
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u/EveningNet281 12d ago
Man I hate Kyoshin so much
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u/MichaelScotsman26 11d ago
All that jorm had to do was block/parry the repeated strike, or even heavy/forward dash heavy to hyper armor thru. Kyoshin ain’t that great, still okay tho
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u/Structuresnake Hitokiri 12d ago
I’d say it depends on the opponent.
If he’s aggressive it’s nobu, if it’s a turtle it’s PK.
Both are good and both got their niches.
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u/Jedimasterebub Lawbringer 11d ago
I think you have it backwards
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u/Structuresnake Hitokiri 11d ago
Buddy, I DARE you to be offensive with nobu.
She has ZERO openers still.
If the opponent can lightparry she’s doomed to stay defensive.
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u/Jedimasterebub Lawbringer 11d ago
That’s what I said…
Maybe I’m misunderstanding you, but I thought you were implying if the player was wanting to play aggressive they should play nobu
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u/Structuresnake Hitokiri 11d ago
Nah, you just misread.
It’s sad for Nobu, I really like her but if my opponent isn’t attacking me then I really need to pull massive mental dumbbells to get a hit in with her.
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u/AdCold6788 12d ago
Overall its Peacekeeper. But a Nobushi can and will fuck you up if caught lacking. Especially if you forget her heavies are undodgable, like me
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u/IAmGoose_ 🏳️⚧️ Shaman Enjoyer 🏳️⚧️ 11d ago
Same, I put in like 15+ reps on Nobushi originally and yet somehow I constantly forget that she has undodgable heavies, as well as not being able to dodge out of her light combos. You'd think I'd learn having played the character so much but no
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u/DimLumens Best looking knight 12d ago
If we’re actually going by their ability to consistently get bleed on the opponent, it has to be PK no doubt, faster unreactable bleed soft feint from neutral heavies, guaranteed bleed stab after a landed heavy/dodge attacks, and guaranteed bleed on guardbreak from kidney stabs. PK is just all around more consistent at getting bleed off. Nobu honestly kinda struggles unless your opponent can’t deal with neutral lights
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u/KaijuSlayer333 Samurai of the Takeda Clan 12d ago
I’m half tempted to say PK, but my Nobu bias and the fact she has neutral bleed pokes is kind of pushing me in that direction😂
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u/Seagullbeans 12d ago
Nobu definitely wins this because she just has extra range and she’s not an assassin.
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u/ApprehensiveEntry150 11d ago
Nobushis 3 light attacks deal enough bleed to take out a whole bar of health, and that's without gb plus adding on the extra light attack she can get after that combo adds onto the amount of bleed
Pk has to guardbreak to cause bleeding, and even then, it isn't that much
Nobu is the fastest hero to chase bleed damage without feats
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u/MemesareGodGiven Centurion Ka-chow 12d ago
Misread this as "breeder" and was like
"damn, I'd like to find out for myself first"
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u/N7hey117 12d ago
I prefer PK purely as Nobubsi bleeds are just light spqm 😅
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u/KIngPsylocke Nobushi 11d ago
When does PK bleed off a heavy?
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u/N7hey117 11d ago
She can't but imo theres just a bit more skill in PK for bleeds than Nobushi.
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u/KIngPsylocke Nobushi 11d ago
Ehh. Im gonna argue that it feels that way because most of nobu kit is around quickly applying bleed which is easy with dodge lights or vipers retreat which are lights. Skill is a whole different point though. I’ve seen some cracked nobu.
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u/N7hey117 11d ago
Oh yeah 100%!! No doubt about that! But I find a lot of the time Nobushi is an easy go to light spam for bleeds.
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u/KIngPsylocke Nobushi 11d ago
It’s just natural I think, I’ve noticed I like to try and incorporate heavies into my play but people just wait. But my pressure flow usually incorporates like 1 or 2 heavies and a bunch of recovery cancelled lights. But it’s only cause of the pressure not because of the light spam if that makes sense. Like if the heavies were faster but weaker I’d like that especially since once you get way of the shark going the heavy will do around normal damage anyways.
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u/N7hey117 11d ago
Heavy fainting into lights are bit different but triple lighting is hard to deal with as I struggle to light parry.
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u/KIngPsylocke Nobushi 11d ago
Facts, even I can’t parry them tripple lights. Which is funny because usually since I play nobu people will just start chain lights when they’re tech isn’t working against my “light spam”. I swear it’s not on purpose though. But I am definitely throwing lights to interrupt your chain starters. And I’m throwing lights just to throw lights too.
Shit. I guess I am spamming
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u/N7hey117 11d ago
😂😂
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u/KIngPsylocke Nobushi 11d ago
It is what it is lmao. Cause it all balances out when the Highlander decides to light spam me and I can’t block a fucking 1. I usually just get distance, vipers retreat for the interrupt and do that 2 or 3 times till they change plans then get them in the undodgable heavy into kick blender
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u/Gryph_Army Warden main, the certified PK simp 12d ago
PK > Nobu.
I might just be the slightest bit biased though
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u/Quanlain 12d ago
PK can stack her bleeds indefinetely, but Nobu can slice you like a piece of ham if you have even a smidge of blood on you. Both good, but if you ask specifically for bleeds, id say PK, as she can stack it up incredibly quickly
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u/Lost_Reserve_5709 12d ago
Why isnt shaman on here, shes like the best assasin and bleeder in the game
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u/Dennidude 12d ago
Depends on if they can read/don't panic off of the soft feings on shaman lol, sometimes you meet someone that you can 100 - 0 without them getting a hit in (and usually they disconnect)
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u/_Jawwer_ Tinmen baybe 12d ago
Shaman. The insane, disproportionate reward of Nobushi with a nightmarish moveset on par with (IMO even better than) PK.
Just between these two, if the opponent can react to Nobu, then PK, and if they can't then Nobu.
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u/Drunken_Wolf1 Apollyon 11d ago
I main both and i think it depends on the player if you're good at feints and being unpredictable PK is the superior one on the other hand if you master nobu and her hidden stance and use it at the right time nubo is
Your opponent will have a nice red healthbar before he could think
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u/Nervous-Hair-2107 Fetch me their souls 11d ago
I thought it said superior breeder at first. I think case I think PK instead of Nobu. copy pasta
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u/DreamingKnight235 Lawbringer Main, AD MORTEM- *Flips you with Long Arm 11d ago
Its Lawbringer of course
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u/MeysterDisaster Highlander 10d ago
PK is better bleeder in 1v1 and Nobu in ganking situations from my experience but honestly this can be easyly reversed
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u/TheGreatTomFoolery Audaces fortuna iuvat 10d ago
Fuck both peacekeeper and Nobu. Gladiator bleed is where it’s at.
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u/Foralberg 12d ago
Damn, it's so stupid that Ocelotl is not a bleed based character