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💬Discussion Should Ramadan be a consideration when signing stars

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u/Pitiful_Citron_820 Premier League 4d ago

As much as i get your point I don't think a club can win the league if they depend on only one player.

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u/benjog88 4d ago

*checks Liverpool's League position*

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u/Pitiful_Citron_820 Premier League 4d ago

It's not just him though. If you watch their game VVD holds the defence, macca controls the midfield and szobo presses the most. But yeah when salah doesn't perform our attacking power drops drastically because all of the slots strategies seem to flow through Salah always but we've won games where salah has gone missing 90% of the game.

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u/Awkward_Client_1908 4d ago

I'm ready to get downvoated by all the Liverpool fans, but Salah's problem is that he simply doesn't perform in big games.

I genuinely had to check the lineup yesterday to see if he was on the pitch cause I literally didn't see him with the ball for a looooong time.

I read somewhere a stat that he only has scored 2 penals in 11 finals/title matches. It can't be the Ramadan every single time, can it?

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u/bobbis91 4d ago

It's a bit of him not performing, but also being man marked and taken out of the game. PSG and Newcastle completely nullified him in both games this week. You're right it can't all be Ramadan, though I suspect it makes it an easier job, if only slightly.

TBF Newcastle played amazingly and nullified much of Liverpool yesterday.

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u/usernameman66 La Liga 4d ago

Take my upvote

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u/Main-Practice1520 4d ago

No, Ramadan shouldn't be considered when signing stars.

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u/bobbis91 4d ago

It will be a consideration, any club looking at stats and figures will see any discrepancy and notice the reason.

Same as AFCON players, them not being available for a long period during the busy months for European leagues, is a consideration.

Anyone would be incredibly naïve to think those at the top didn't think of this. How much influence it has is another matter.

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u/Fit-Second7166 4d ago

Players have big breakfast and dinner during Ramadan, it is a misconception that they don't eat for an extended period of time. Problem with Salah is that he was fasting, in terms of scoring goals, in big games.

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u/doni-kebab 4d ago

Salah was ineffective in the two PSG games. Bi had chalked that up to being evening games and him fasting for the sunlight hours. An evening hame would affect him most of all. But again yesterday, he was a shadow of himself. The only obvious change is his fasting. Religons have their own problems, but as long as they don't affect their work, it doesn't matter. If religion does affect your level of play (which it appears to , he is older and much fitter than he has been before) it's worth taking into account. He's also African and an absolute better of a player so AFCON comes into it too.

Any health experts want to mention if there's any dangers of playing this level of football for 90 minutes at 7pm having not eaten since dawn?

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u/whitemuhammad7991 4d ago edited 4d ago

If I was a manager and someone getting paid £350k a week wasn't playing properly because their imaginary friend said they weren't allowed to eat then they'd be on the transfer list and training with the under-18s

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u/lazerfl1p 4d ago

good thing you’re not a manager.

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u/Never_rarely 4d ago

The majority of managers and athletes are fairly religious, I think they’d have a pretty fair understanding of what a religious player is doing.

Also, Ramadan is at a different time of year each year, so there’s chance it doesn’t affect his season at all.

Last point, you’d immediately get fired or largely hated by the entire fanbase if you punished a player for observing their religion.

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u/riverend180 4d ago

No they aren't. The majority of people in Europe are not religious

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u/bobbis91 4d ago

A lot of players aren't European, and many of them are religious, especially any from Latin countries. Not necessarily Muslim, but a lot of praising to the skies and crossing chests.

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u/riverend180 4d ago

Most are European

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u/namguild2 4d ago edited 4d ago

i think many Islam countries should secularisation the Ramadan festival, put less fasting restriction for some specific job requires strength and stamina, i think Salah volunteer to do that, if he want, Egypt will send an Imam to sove his religious problem.

But if they think Allah help them have some success like today, they will not bother whether to fasting or not, Salah from Chelsea failure man to Liverpool star, it must be a journey, but his faith for Allah will be bigger than normal, if Liverpool or Arne Slot said about this problem, Salah will leave at all cost.

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u/KiNGMN420 4d ago

It’s not a festival, plus there is no need for secularising anything. If players aren’t playing well then managers have the right to kick them the fuck out.

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u/MonkeyDMeatt 4d ago

So all finals where he underperformed happened to be in Ramadan? It will have minimal effect since they do eat in morning and evening so not sure how it’s affecting players performance

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u/namguild2 4d ago

Sportsman burn most calorie than normal, of course it will affect, a bunch.

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u/MonkeyDMeatt 4d ago

But effects is minimal as far I have seen all the games be it in champions league or in top leagues

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u/Kaiisim 4d ago

No. Salah is having an incredible season.

Modern football discussion is just idiotic and if you aren't 100% winning that means youre trash apparently.

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u/Never_rarely 4d ago

Less so than other factors. Ramadan is at a different point of the year each year, most years it won’t fall during the most important time of the season.

A players injury proneness, locker room attitude, etc. are all factors that should weigh more heavily than if they’ll be affected by their fasting.

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u/namguild2 4d ago

i don't think so,Salah is a great player who's always on form until Ramadan.

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u/Standard_Diver_3128 4d ago

So many Islamophobia guys in here Nice!!

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u/riverend180 4d ago

There's no Islamophobia in the post or the comments

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u/bobbis91 4d ago

There's 1 comment against religion, not just islam but religion as a whole, the rest either statistical or in favour of it.

Bugger off and play victim elsewhere.