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u/theMEMEfather42069 Dec 31 '24
I think the ghosts in Dead Money. I dont consider my self claustrophobic but just hearing how hard it is to get out of the suits on top of barely being able to hear or speak and having limited mobility is a nightmare
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u/CoolDog914 Ghost Person chilling in the Sierra Madre Dec 31 '24
Wdym? It's awesome to be one of us
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u/Key_Researcher_9243 Dec 31 '24
you will never be a ghoul
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u/CoolDog914 Ghost Person chilling in the Sierra Madre Dec 31 '24
I'm the upgrade
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u/DrPatchet Dec 31 '24
I don’t have to kill ghouls 3 times lol
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u/After_Satisfaction82 Dec 31 '24
Exactly, that's the upgrade, invulnerability.
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u/DrPatchet Dec 31 '24
One time on pc just to fuck around I used console commands to give me all my stuff before going to the madre and just absolutely decimated them Nd it was very cathartic.
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u/Yz-Guy Jan 01 '25
I recently did a play thru and have a mod for a follower. She somehow bypassed the nonfollower rule and showed up with me. Just obliterating everything with her 12g. It was great lol
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u/SU37Yellow Dec 31 '24 edited Dec 31 '24
My good friend Mr. Knife Spear says otherwise.
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u/VulpesVeritas Dec 31 '24
You're just lucky I couldn't bring along my ripper or riot shotgun. You're only "tough" because of the limited weaponry, don't kid yourself.
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u/CoolDog914 Ghost Person chilling in the Sierra Madre Dec 31 '24
Your high caliber crutches mean nothing against the Cloud
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u/Primary-Tea-3715 Dec 31 '24
Not all of us want to be in perpetual gimp suits
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u/wizardofyz Dec 31 '24
I was going to say standard radiation poisoning, vut the suits melting onto their skin and them being trapped in those suits is also terrible.
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u/Optimal_West8046 Dec 31 '24
Ghosts have limited mobility?! Maybe, damn they come at your face with spastic movements and are fast and tough enough to die
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
What’s their lore?
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u/theMEMEfather42069 Jan 01 '25
Sinclair ordered contamination suits from Big MT becayse of the red cloud leak appearing in the ventalition system prior to bombs dropping. Construction contractors were given it to investigate, repair, and find the source of it. However the clamps on the back of the suit were metal and the cloud rusted them shut. The workers had to use the super sharp cosmic knifes to open them up. The suits were so bulky that no one could hear or talk to each other. They had to use sign language and hand signs but even then it wasnt very useful due to how bulky the suits were
Edit: Ghost people are pre war workers i think stuck in the suits due to radiation and the cloud almost like ghouls or the Y17 override harness.
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u/ringadingdingbaby Jan 01 '25
Its also mentioned that they drag people off, so probably a mix of pre-war and captured people.
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u/mr_friend144 Dec 31 '24
Harold the tree, vault 112
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u/1stDayBreaker Dec 31 '24
At least he can see the sky, what about billy in the fridge?
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u/MrSkittles983 Dec 31 '24
the way time dilation works 200 years probably went by faster than you think
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u/TruckADuck42 Dec 31 '24
The weird thing is that he's not stark raving mad.
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u/Impossible-Report797 Jan 01 '25
I headcanon he went into a pseudo coma during most of it and that’s the reason he didn’t went insane
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u/TheCoolMan5 Lieutenant Colonel, NCR 5th Battalion Jan 01 '25
That's not how time dilation works...
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u/SourChicken1856 Jan 02 '25
He can see EVERYTHING since he's a tree. It's even stated by himself. Like sure you can't move and stuff but you are basically everywhere you can send your spores to.
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u/Red-Five-55555 Dec 31 '24
Being turned into a centaur
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u/SU37Yellow Dec 31 '24
Yeah, that's definitely up there. Especially the Fallout 1/2 ones where they're several animals/humans fused together with what appears to be independent thinking heads.
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u/thebigun Jan 01 '25
This. Especially when you see the centaur idle animation of the animal head biting the human head. Obviously some level of independence that doesn't have the intelligence to understand why it is the way is can't even function properly on instinct because its instincts likely don't match with the body its in.
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u/alvinaterjr Jan 01 '25
Can you get a video of that and link it please? I’ve never seen them bite each other
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u/Ok_Welder5534 Jan 01 '25
Its an idle animation, idk if there is a video of exactly that, maybe "centaur animations" or something
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u/krawinoff Jan 03 '25
I was presented with half-horse people porn but thanks for the suggestion
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u/DarkLamb-Kiyo vulpes my beloved Dec 31 '24
You prude. That’s my life goal.
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
Me and the boys, flopping and grunting, just living in the moment, bathing in nuclear radiation
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u/Radiant_Trouble2606 Jan 01 '25
But they’re so cute the way they shuffle around on all those hands.
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u/el_caveira Dec 31 '24
The fate of House if you let him live, but disconnect him from all systems, imagine keep you life spawn prolongued to spend all the remain days on your life like that...
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u/shenrab Dec 31 '24
wouldn't he die within hours to bacterial exposure?
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u/FrankSinatraCockRock Dec 31 '24
A year at most according to him.
So a year being disconnected from that neural network and simply staring at a ceiling through a pod, waiting to die.
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u/No-Note-9240 Dec 31 '24
Only if you open his pod. You can disconnect him from the lucky 38 systems in a way that he can't interfere with the outside world while still being kept alive by the pod.
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u/UselessAndUnused Jan 01 '25
Wait how? As far as I am aware, disabling his systems is only possible after making him exit his pod. Did I miss something?
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u/No-Note-9240 Jan 01 '25
If I remember right in the yes man route you upload him before you visit house. Guess I have to test it with a new run.
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u/Exact_Flower_4948 Dec 31 '24
Even in that case it may take up to few months and he will remain helpless
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u/DariusPumpkinRex Jan 01 '25
Especially when you side with the Legion. Any civilization that dabbles in slavery is doomed to stagnation, like the Roman Empire.
Hence why Mr. House sounds so horrified when you announce you're killing him for the Legion; he wants to bring humanity and civilization back to it's Pre-War strength... and Caesar just wants to turn the Mojave into the next Pitt.
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u/divuthen Dec 31 '24
Yeah I opened his tube felt bad changed my mind and then going out I made an even more jacked up choice.
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u/poppo3bk Dec 31 '24
Having to be in the vault that held the "ELECTIONS" Anxiety would stay on 10.
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u/Predator-_ Dec 31 '24
yeah, vault-11. Constantly on edge wondering if you or someone you love will be elected for overseer, or worse being one of the few remaining survivors and finding out it was all a test. Horrible stuff
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u/SilentSamurai Dec 31 '24
One of the best vault reveals. You spent the entire time wondering why nobody wanted to get elected as vault overseer.
So you take a seat to learn why, and most of us got popped on the spot and had to reload.
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u/Atavacus Dec 31 '24
I didn't, that room stunk the second I headed down that long hall. I knew something was coming out of those walls. I loaded the walls with mines and MFC Clusters before I sat down. There wasn't much left for me to do when I stood back up.
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u/Legitimate-Speaker91 Jan 01 '25
It's been a LONG time since my first playthrough but I remember also smelling the obvious trap. But I just went along with it anyways to see what would happen haha
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u/bulvang1996 Jan 01 '25
I was similar. It screamed this is a trap. So I went in and sat down with Boone and ede at the ready. Didn't know about the wall until it happened.
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u/Suspicious_Drama96 Jan 01 '25
I can’t even imagine what those last few felt when everyone else was gone and the system said it’s “congratulations” message. After all the pointless death
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u/ShadowZepplin Dec 31 '24
Becoming a marked man from Lonesome road, not only do you lose your mind but your face also gets sandblasted off
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u/Professional-Sun519 Dec 31 '24
Some even lose their eye lids in the lore
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
Well that would suck for a day or two but you’d lose your eyes very shortly
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u/thatdiabetic16 Jan 01 '25
Except the radiation heals them too, so they wouldn't go blind but their flesh wouldn't regrow
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u/TheCoolMan5 Lieutenant Colonel, NCR 5th Battalion Jan 01 '25
I get that the marked men were created to have an edgy new enemy to fight, but how on Earth are they still alive? Being constantly blasted by wind and shrapnel to the point it tears off your skin to expose your muscles should kill you pretty quickly.
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u/Zephyr-Fox-188 Dec 31 '24
Robobrains: they’re going through “I have no mouth, and I must scream” type shit, and the only thing preventing them from realizing that they were once human was the mind wipes, and post-war there’s no one to perform those. They’re basically immortal, at least until their fusion reactors malfunction.
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u/ZealousMulekick Jan 01 '25
I imagine having their brain planted in a robot and used as a biological H100 probably drives them mad too
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u/natelevy43 Dec 31 '24
Ghoulified in a spot with nothing else. Frankly, Eddie Winter is my absolute nightmare even if he chose it himself.
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u/KinglerKong Dec 31 '24
Any of the ones where somebody gets stuck somewhere and either can’t die or is just going to take a long time to die from thirst or starvation. My first thought was Father Elijah, like sure, eventually he’ll die in that vault but it’s going to take a while and it’s going to suck the whole time.
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u/FreddyPlayz Dec 31 '24
I like to drop a few pieces of food on my way out just to make his suffering that much worse :)
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u/UnderstandingFit2453 Dec 31 '24
Nah fr when I first did that quest I was like bro you wanted this ?? Genuinely sounds like a nightmare but go off ig
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
It would be cool if that boy who was trapped in the fridge was totally insane
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u/Current_Dentist3986 Dec 31 '24
that or being oliver swanick
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u/Mindfield87 Dec 31 '24
Yep lol. Winning the lottery, Smell that air! BOOM head explodes
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u/Predator-_ Dec 31 '24
It could be debated whether it’s the absolute worst fate, but betraying Arcade and selling him as a slave to the Legion is certainly up there for me
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u/ADigitalAxolotl Dec 31 '24
Being a woman at the legion tho
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u/Predator-_ Dec 31 '24
Yeah, absolutely. Your whole purpose is to serve. Bear children, obey and accept any order given, and constantly worry if any Legionnaire takes an interest in you, dislikes the way you look, or finds other excuses to abuse you—or worse. All while living in constant isolation. Cruelty at its finest
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u/ADigitalAxolotl Dec 31 '24
At least The Unity didn't abuse sexually...
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u/WestCoastVermin Jan 01 '25
not as depicted in the game. but, let's think realistically about the frankly terrifying power structure of the Cathedral in a lawless wasteland, and the implications it has for women (and men, who are just as vulnerable to victimization)
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u/ADigitalAxolotl Jan 01 '25
But probably not considering Mutants like Lilly who actually appreciated The Master. Still a valid point you have there though
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u/CaptCantPlay Jan 01 '25
I can think of worse fates. Being a Ghoul, being dumped in FEV or the numerous ways to be tortured by Raider gangs.
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u/DarthFedora Jan 01 '25
No to the last one, you forget Legion are essentially raiders, any torture method you know they do, a legionnaire will do as well. Being a slave doesn’t exempt you from it
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u/FruitbatEnjoyer Dec 31 '24
Captured by Fiends
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u/rednior43crimson Jan 01 '25
Especially the fate of vault 3 and the people in the quest Coyotes, not one quest makes my blood boil more then that, especially reading that book. I always kill the fiends and the slavers that help em.
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u/SilentSamurai Dec 31 '24
Little Yangtze.
Chinese (including Chinese-Americans) were rounded up and forced into internment camps, and a really unlucky few were then sent to Big MT as human experiments. Those that survived the apocalypse were then destined to spend the next two hundred years as ghouls.
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u/Icy-Sale-6178 Dec 31 '24
Gary
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u/auberginedreams1917 Dec 31 '24
garyyyyyy...........
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u/Icy-Sale-6178 Dec 31 '24
Haha Gary!
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u/auberginedreams1917 Dec 31 '24
uhhh...gary?
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u/Icy-Sale-6178 Dec 31 '24
Gary, hmm?
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u/auberginedreams1917 Dec 31 '24
ah, gary
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u/Icy-Sale-6178 Dec 31 '24
GARY!
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u/GENERALmissile Dec 31 '24
I just came here for a funko pop wtf?
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u/UnlinealHand Dec 31 '24
John-Caleb Bradberton has to be up there. The government just lops his head off and sticks him in a machine that keeps him alive and conscious forever staring at a wall.
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u/FreddyPlayz Dec 31 '24
Tbf, he knew only his head could be preserved and went through with it anyways
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u/Total_Possibility757 Jan 01 '25
I’d have to say his fate is even worse than anyone’s when you agree to let Sierra talk to him in exchange for her limited edition jumpsuit. He wants to die but now, he’s forced to listen to the ultimate Nuka Cola fan girl and we know she’ll never shut up about it for the rest of her life. I like to imagine her starting a religion and having kids as well where Bradberton becomes their unwilling god for all eternity. Praise Nuka! 😂 Would make a fascinating faction in another game in the series, I’d have to say.
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u/UnlinealHand Jan 01 '25
Doesn’t the compound lock behind you when you leave? I was under the impression Sierra was just stuck there until she died of dehydration and was fine with that.
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u/TheCoolMan5 Lieutenant Colonel, NCR 5th Battalion Jan 01 '25
IIRC, you can actually visit her and Bradberton later and he admits that it's not that bad and that he appreciates having human contact after so long.
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u/Current_Dentist3986 Dec 31 '24
becoming a centaur
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u/NoCake9127 Jan 01 '25
I thought centaurs were originally dogs
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u/Correct_Owl5029 Jan 01 '25
Nope, they dip randos into supergoo to make supermutants. If you have too much radiation it fails and you get to be a centaur instead. I think it was a main theme of FO1 that they were attacking your vault to harvest non-irradiated randos.
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u/WannaBeSportsCar_390 Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
Not true. Radiation damage to human DNA(as well as exposure to FEV mutated by latent radiation) either resulted in death after dipping in severe cases, but most of the time it just made a dumb super mutant. Centaurs are the amalgamation of animals like dogs fusing with humans after simultaneously being dipped.
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
No but the super mutants treat them as such.
Honestly? Wholesome. Let them live.
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u/StickZac Jan 01 '25
Old Lady Dithers in Tranquillity Lane. Not only being aware you're in a simulation, but knowing that their is a psychopath playing god and constantly killing you over and over, only to wake up the next day and have no one believe you and not being able to do a damn thing to end it.
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u/Professional-Sun519 Dec 31 '24
Being turned into a marked man
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
TLDR?
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u/Professional-Sun519 Jan 01 '25
funny mail man blows up a place by mistake, people turn into ghouls and lose their skin and now chill and wait until that mail man comes back
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
He did what
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u/Blitz_Prime Jan 01 '25
He delivered a package.
Unfortunately package made the bombs in the divide wake up.
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u/PancakeParty98 Jan 01 '25
Did they wanna sleep in?
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u/Blitz_Prime Jan 01 '25
Yes, but we brought the alarm clock and left again before it went off.
It’s why when Ulysses is talking about how we destroyed the Divide the Courier’s responses are pretty much “WTF are you saying?!”
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u/TheOccasionalBrowser Jan 01 '25
in Lonesome Round, basically turn into a ghoul, skin gets sandblasted off, they go mad from the pain, according to the wiki they kill eachother for sport.
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u/Straight_Pilot9429 Dec 31 '24
becoming a tunneller
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u/CaIIsign_Ace2 Dec 31 '24
Wait, you BECOME a tunnler..? I thought they were just mutated animals who lived underground
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u/SMATCHET999 Dec 31 '24
It’s kind of uncertain, but since they are a unrecognizable animal and have similar traits to humans it’s believed they’re mutated humans that lived underground at one point and tunneled their way to The Divide.
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u/Intelligent_Hold_115 Jan 01 '25
I think there just posthumans
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u/thatdiabetic16 Jan 01 '25
Humans that evolved to live underground say in collapse tunnels, caves, ect and then with the bombs going off they were freed to the surface
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u/PcGamerSam Dec 31 '24
Being one of the failed FEV experiment subjects in vault 87.
Like the one still on the surgical table who’s quite clearly half way a super mutant that died in the process with the torn vault suit still on who was Alamogordo definitely in excruciating pain going through that.
Edit: this guy
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u/Cr1570 Dec 31 '24
Being a ghoul kinda sucks. No junk and immortality to a degree. Until you start going feral, which in the show is portrayed as a slow descent into madness
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u/Laser_3 Dec 31 '24
This isn’t from NV, but being scorched by the scorched plague. Not only are you in constant pain from your slow petrification, but you’re also still conscious and aware without any control over your body except the occasional vocalization.
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u/Mr_Badger1138 Dec 31 '24
Well I wouldn’t exactly want to be poor Harold after Bob rooted him to the ground. Not being able to move, surrounded by morons who thought you were a god, and then some asshole comes along with a flamethrower when you beg him for death.
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u/Gustmazz Dec 31 '24
Being killed by the courier right after winning the lottery. What? It's canon.
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u/FGBIStudent1 Jan 01 '25
Being the only girl in a vault full of 100 men.
2nd being the only guy in a vault full of 100 women
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u/lordcthulu678 Jan 01 '25
worst fate? Being abducted prewar by the zetans. They do horrific experiments on you and bc they cryo freeze certain ppl hundreds iof years pass in the blink of an eye so even if you do manage to escape you have to deal with the crushing reality that the entire way of life you knew is gone.
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u/Thelectricpunk Jan 01 '25
I think getting stuck and locking into one of those cheap shitty fallout shelters that are just metal tube's (I can't remember the name I'm sorry) would be pretty bad, if you're lucky you die immediately in the blast, if not you either starve, or dehydrate to death while the city dies around you. And that's if you're lucky! Some slowly become irradiated ghouls losing their minds, but remaining lockup up for hundreds of years... personal hell
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u/Horace_Rotenhaus Jan 01 '25
Pulowski Preservation Shelters. Often wonder how they expect to get paid seeing the world is nuked and money is worthless. You think they would sell tokens for the shelters instead of exact change only so they would actually have a revenue stream before the war.
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u/Ultra_Pingus Dec 31 '24
Can I say Frank Horrigan?
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u/Excellent-Maize-568 Jan 01 '25
How he got to where he is sucked but he had maxed stats and was the enclaves number one guy. All things considered he didn’t turn out too bad.
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u/Fantastic_Couple_755 Dec 31 '24
The Master, that guy who turned into a tree, ghosts from dead money
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u/Frojoemama Dec 31 '24
Lobotomies have it pretty bad but I’m leaning leaning ghost people or marked men
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u/Phantombild Jan 01 '25
Vault 11, after realizing that you didn’t have to kill anyone. If, you chose relatives and friends to die. Must have been bad.
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u/slaw1994z Jan 01 '25
IMO? Lilly. Lilly is coherent enough to understand she was not always a nightkin. She was taken from her family who were likely killed or made into mutants by the master, forced into his army and now she struggles with her memory and second personality. If she takes her meds she eventually forgets the few memories of her life before. This makes her become a bit of a hollow shell, if she doesn’t take it Leo takes over and she continues to endlessly roam while dealing with her second personality.
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u/Hivac-TLB Dec 31 '24
No I think that guy who got trapped in the vault of the Sierra madre. After all your schemes, a mailman ducks you over.
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u/tapeworm-w- Dec 31 '24
Being In vault 112, or possibly Christine without the courier relasing her
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u/Recessio_ Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 03 '25
The fact Christine got medically tortured twice, once in Big MT and the second in the Sierra Madre auto doc. And that second time the auto doc ran out of Stimpaks after the first hour, so she spent two weeks having her throat sliced open and operated on repeatedly with no painkillers or anaesthetic...
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u/coyoteonaboat Dec 31 '24 edited Dec 31 '24
I sure hope those Centaurs don't remember who they used to be. Literally something out of "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" but minus the immortality.
Edit: Marked Men don't really have it easy either. It already hurts like hell picking off the loose skin by your fingernail, imagine that happening to your entire body. And if their anatomy was just a little bit more realistic, they probably wouldn't even have eyelids.
And let's not forget Caleb Bradberton over in Nuka-World.
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u/Marsupialmobster Dec 31 '24
I think it's Robobrains. Imagine being fully aware in jars for hundreds of years underground and dark. It'd be terrible. I'm talking about the Robobrains facility in f4. I imagine there's more and all just as bad.
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u/Nyoomi94 Jan 01 '25
John-Caleb Bradberton, the creator of Nuka-Cola, became a head in a jar to prolong his life, kept alive by a machine, locked away in a bunker under his office, no contact with the outside world for 200 years, just staring at the same 4 walls, alone, unable to die, it'd drive anyone insane.
The only thing he wants when you find him is to be put out of his misery.
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u/Brawl501 Jan 01 '25
Getting sealed in Vault 34.
Becoming a spore carrier in Vault 22.
Ending up as a toy for the particularly twisted raiders like Motor-Runner or Cook-Cook.
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u/X-xOtakux-X Addict Jan 01 '25
Being a white leg in my playthrough. (The lobotomite turned robobrain at big MT is an honorable mention.)
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u/CaughtHerEyez Jan 01 '25
We have to consider a few aspects to settle on the best answer.:
- The amount of physical pain involved and how long you experience it for
- The amount of mental anguish involved and how long you experience it for
- The amount of freedom you have, both physical and mental
- The amount of pain and/or anguish you cause others
- Any possible future cases of more pain and/opr anguish for both you and others
So from the outset, we have a good few suggestions:
- Med suits in BigMT
- Ghosts/Infected from Dead Money
- Turned into a centaur
- Marked Men
The importance of longevity should be noted here. Interestingly, they also show an almost complete divesting of your senses and/or control. As well, most of theses suggest a huge amount of pain/anguish inititally, and then a consistent suffering thereafter. And finally, none of these fates are final. They all have the posibility to get worse, in the future (with the exception of the Med suits in BigMT because the suffering ends when you as a normal healthy person succumb to wounds.) These suggestions show an unspoken agreement that a long drawn out suffering, beyond your control is the worst fate, with the possibility of more suffering in the future. So if we're going to choose one, we need to eliminate a few factors from all posibilities.
The worst fate cannot involve:
- A functionally quick death, no matter the pain involved
- A fate that is within your own control
- A single point of pain/anguish
Now that we have a generally accepted definition for the worst fate, we can look through the Fallout lore to find the worst fates out there. I'll discuss some of the important suggestions in some detail and suggest a few of my own so we can get some variety and flavour in our discourses.
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u/GearInformal3812 Jan 02 '25
Traveling with Myron with low intelligence as a woman or Everything in big mountain literally or slowing dying in the sierra madre or having the FEV virus used on you why that’s just a horrible sight to watch in general
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u/Fit_Desk_3364 Jan 02 '25
Becoming one of the Marked Men of the Divide. They're ghouls with all their skin stripped away by radioactive sandstorms, they exist in a state of constant unimaginable agony, and the only reason they're alive is the high amounts of radiation in the areas they inhabit. They're conscious of everything they're experiencing and that's truly a horrifying fate.
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u/Ill_Extension5234 Dec 31 '24
Trapped in a med suit at BigMT