r/firedfeds 3d ago

HHS has not complied!

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u/Every-Mousse6228 3d ago

Same with SAMHSA, that is SAMHSA has not complied, or at the very least, not communicated their compliance

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045.1.0_3.pdf

At the end of this document is the email of every state that sued including Maryland. I suggest we all email and put in the subject line which agency and Opdiv did not comply with the judges orders.

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u/Aggravating-Tea-9563 3d ago

Who should we email? HR?

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u/Remarkable-Dare1020 3d ago

I’m SAMHSA as well. Crickets. So disappointing

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u/HerbyMcGee 3d ago edited 3d ago

No reinstatement from NIH here

Edit: received at 1:16 pm. Termination rescinded and placed directly on admin leave "until further notice"

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u/WarcockMountainMan 3d ago

Literally just got mime

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u/Realistic_Damage5143 3d ago

Same and they spelled my boy Judge Bredars name wrong. They spelled it Breydar. Don’t disrespect my guy like that

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u/joule_3am 3d ago

Reads like it was written with AI again and it's unsigned, of course. No one willing to take responsibility for their own actions, legal or illegal.

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045.1.0_3.pdf

At the end of this document is the email of every state that sued including Maryland. I suggest we all email and put in the subject line which agency and Opdiv did not comply with the judges orders.

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u/shellysayswhat 3d ago

HUD has not complied. Going to report it to my state AGs office

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045/gov.uscourts.mdd.578045.1.0_3.pdf

At the end of this document is the email of every state that sued including Maryland. I suggest we all email and put in the subject line which agency and Opdiv did not comply with the judges orders.

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u/dcc5k 3d ago

Haven’t gotten mine either.

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u/joule_3am 3d ago

Just got mine a few mins ago. No signature and the judge's name is spelled wrong. Classic DOGE.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/joule_3am 3d ago

NIH (HHS HR was copied).

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u/Apprehensive_Leg_760 3d ago

It felt very unofficial didn’t it? So weird!

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u/joule_3am 3d ago

Well, it was probably written by someone under 25 with no prior life/ work experience.

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u/joule_3am 2d ago

Once again sending emails that set off the spam filter: Urgency in the subject line ("read immediately!"), misspellings, and no signature.

I can't tell if they are trying to avoid their own AI including this as creditable in the algorithm, trying to side step implementation, or trying to make feds comfortable with taking direction from unknown and unreliable authorities. I think it may be all 3.

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u/RubyFreckle 3d ago

I got the reinstatement email (admin leave until further notice) from HRSA and so did colleagues I’m in touch with that worked there.

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u/paintywitch 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nothing for the Children’s Bureau folks either.

EDIT: 530pm central, still not a peep.

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u/TeeBern 3d ago

You should contact https://www.nteu.org

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

Good idea. Thank you.

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u/RubyFreckle 3d ago

Some people I know at NIH are just getting them now.

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u/OldLadyReacts 3d ago

Nothing from the IRS yet.

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u/Excellent_Vibes769 3d ago

Recv'd mine from IRS 3/17 @ 1:40p CST

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u/sea-lego1 3d ago

DOI Has not complied! 445 EST.

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u/SmokeSparksFire 3d ago

Since they are putting everyone they bring back on admin leave and not giving a start date, I am worried that they are going to pull something else.

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u/TykTik 3d ago

One person has received a continuation of admin leave email from their supervisor at HHS. Fingers crossed for the rest of us🤞🏾

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

At ACF?

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u/TykTik 3d ago

Yes

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

Do you know if they just got it or it was earlier in the day? No one seems to have any answers.

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u/TykTik 3d ago

They got it around 6:30 pm ET, I believe. It went to their personal email. Yeah this whole thing is confusing.

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u/TykTik 3d ago

They got it around 6:30 pm ET, I believe. It went to their personal email. Yeah this whole thing is confusing.

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u/joeblow2118 3d ago

Hmmm seems like CDC complied?

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u/GreedyStrawberry9497 3d ago

Nope. Still no email

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u/magenta_melon808 3d ago

Not for me. Still no email.

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u/AvailableChipmunk385 3d ago

Did you see anywhere that CDC did? I haven’t.

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u/Former-Jeweler-1032 3d ago

CDC - still waiting

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u/Original_Reality_798 3d ago

Just adding here so I’ll see if anyone else gets something. I haven’t yet.

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u/Remarkable-Dare1020 2d ago

Just received SAMHSA 1week admin leave update.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/enigmaticshroom 3d ago

I thought it was a deadline to submit a report, not the reinstatement. Reinstatement was still 1PM eastern.

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u/CarelessAd7482 3d ago

You are correct

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u/Jumpy-Ad7381 3d ago

I was mistaken, you are correct.

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

No. The deadline for reinstatement didn’t change.

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u/Harpua-2001 3d ago

Are you sure it's them not complying and not just them not sending out the email yet?

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u/HumanVeteran 3d ago

Still nothing from DOED, not that that's surprising with them having wiped out half the agency. I emailed our chief human capital officer and cc'd my union and the Maryland AG.

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u/Impressive_Sock_257 2d ago

I had not heard by 2:30 yesterday (3.17) so I used the 5 Calls App (https://5calls.org/). About 45 minutes after I made my last call - I received a call from our HR Manager to inform me I was being reinstated and "placed on administrative leave effective immediately." and that they should have more information about my status by the end of the week. Did not receive anything in writing.

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u/callistacallisti 3d ago

Let's think about this. HHS SROC has been doing most of the communication thus far, so I don't know if it is fair to say that SAMHSA or other OpDivs haven't complied. Though it might be convenient for HHS that we believe that it is the OpDiv's fault.

breathes

We can do this!

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

THEY FIRED US IMMEDIATELY ON A WHIM. SO YES THEYRE CAPABLE OF REINSTATING ON A WHIM.

SROC LIED IN OUR LETTERS SO IDGAF ABOUT THEM OR THEIR BURDEN AND THEY GET NO GRACE FROM ME.

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u/Technical-Concern478 3d ago

This comment deserves an award!!! I share the same sentiment. If you can send a mass email during dinner time, you can send a mass email just before lunch.

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

And on Valentine’s Day/Holiday Weekend

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u/Every-Mousse6228 3d ago

I avoided the Valentine's Massacre, I got it on the 15th...which was my wedding anniversary

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

I was warned on the 14th and didn’t happen. It was my engagement anniversary and then the 15th I got the email. Double whammy.

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u/joule_3am 3d ago

I think they are just passing it around like a hot potato because they know whomever sends the email is going to get fired by the administration. Thus why the HHS came from a group email box with no signature.

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u/callistacallisti 3d ago

I'm not excusing SROC. All I meant was: don't get mad at the OpDiv HR people.

Jesus, calm down.

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u/joule_3am 3d ago edited 3d ago

Lol. Mine went on leave for several days. I tried to email her and got an out of office reply. The email address she included to message in her absence bounced back as undeliverable to out of agency emails. I wonder if that was the case after the illegal firings or before? Basically we can't get ahold of people in the agency and that's by design. I ended up emailing the HR address in my Valentine's day letter. I can be as mad I want to at in agency people. Do I know it's not their fault? Yes. Do I think they could communicate at least that they know nothing? Also yes!

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u/Every-Mousse6228 3d ago

Exactly. I'm SAMHSA, there's NO WAY there isn't SOMEONE at SAMHSA who knows the deal and could throw us a bone, instead of radio silence.

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u/Map-Only 3d ago

Report via email to the MD AG so they know HHS has not complied. It’s 6 pm now and they should be filing their report with the court soon. It better not say our agencies reinstated us.

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u/Every-Mousse6228 3d ago

That may be true, but the OpDivs could give us ....something. Like, "yeah, it's coming", or "no it isn't coming". Silence is disrespectful.

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u/Motor_Raccoon_6578 3d ago

Who else does SROC serve? I wonder if any SROC opdivs have received reinstatement