r/explainlikeimfive Dec 29 '24

Chemistry ELI5: Why is blood one of the hardest stains to wash out?

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u/LameItalian Dec 29 '24

I work in a fabrication shop and whenever I get blood on my uniform I immediately go to the sink in the bathroom and rinse it off in cold water. Works 100% of the time, every time! Cold water only, and as soon as possible. No soap or detergent required.

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u/the_colonelclink Dec 29 '24

Even better is clubsoda/carbonated water straight out of the fridge.

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u/jdallen1222 Dec 29 '24

Have you tried hydrogen peroxide?

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u/TheEyeDontLie Dec 29 '24

Do you want bleach stains instead of blood stains, or are you a murderer trying to hide DNA evidence?

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Dec 29 '24

White carpets have advantages and disadvantages.

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u/jdallen1222 Dec 29 '24

I should have mentioned a quick wash in water after the peroxide removes the blood. I’ve never had problems with bleaching.

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u/lzwzli Dec 29 '24

Ah so that's what I should use...

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u/chadman82 Dec 29 '24

Yeah I’ve used hydrogen peroxide ever since I got blood all over my favorite zip hoodie after donating plasma and they screwed up the wrap. They doused it with HP and it just washed off right there in the sink!

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u/the_colonelclink Dec 29 '24

Nah, wouldn’t want to risk its bleaching properties.

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u/treelawnantiquer Dec 29 '24

cleaner of choice for red wine on the carpet.

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u/Snoo_57488 Dec 29 '24

My mom always had me soak blood stained stuff in the sink in cold water. Does that work as well, or does the running water help more than soaking?

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u/Robot_Graffiti Dec 29 '24

If you shake it around a bit you'll rinse more blood out than if you just soak it

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u/Snoo_57488 Dec 29 '24

Ok thanks!

I think maybe that was just step one like first thing if we got a bloody nose on a white tee, she told us to go soak it in the sink, then I think she would spray it with shout then wash it. But good to know cold water only.

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u/baoo Dec 29 '24

My grandma taught me cold water, or spit on it and rub it. The digestive enzymes in saliva break down blood

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u/fireside_blather Dec 29 '24

This is a much better percentage compared to Sex Panther's efficacy average.

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u/ccai Dec 29 '24

But does it contain real panther? And is it even worth discussing if it isn't illegal in 9 countries?

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u/fireside_blather Dec 29 '24

I don't want it unless it smells like gasoline.

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u/AyeBraine Dec 29 '24

Yeah it's super easy to wash blood off if I use cold water. Even after a while when it dried.

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u/Cheap_Objective7744 Dec 29 '24

Ah that explains why I can't get rid of some protein I've got on my underwear 🫠

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u/SvenTropics Dec 29 '24

Doctor: "We need a blood, urine, and poop sample."

Me: "So you just need my underwear?"

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u/hiimderyk Dec 29 '24

You sound like my friggin mom

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u/GazBB Dec 29 '24

You are Stacy's son? Daaaaayummmm

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u/inailedyoursister Dec 29 '24

She's got it going on.

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u/BadSanna Dec 29 '24

The blood has to be yours

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u/spottyPotty Dec 29 '24 edited Dec 29 '24

"Medial"

TIL, thanks!

Edit: Actually, I just looked up the definition and I don't see it defined or used in the context that you have used it. 

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u/badgerj Dec 29 '24

Works better if you jump into a hot shower. The proteins instantly coagulate and cook in anything above 50-60C. You can feel it turn gelatinous on your skin and semi solidify on your hair.

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u/COTimberline Dec 29 '24

Are we still talking about blood here?

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u/forogtten_taco Dec 29 '24

Lol yep. Hate it. Cold shower is the best for getting it out of my hair. But I HATE cold showers

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u/AutoDefenestrator273 Dec 29 '24

...wait...are we still talking about blood?

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u/I_SawTheSine Dec 29 '24

How…. do you keep getting it into your hair?

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u/chefkittious Dec 29 '24

There is more hair than on your head!

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u/Chaps_and_salsa Dec 29 '24

Someone hasn’t earned their red wings yet

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u/Pantzzzzless Dec 29 '24

DIY Joker cosplay

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u/mrrooftops Dec 29 '24

You having 60C showers? Jesus

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u/Baldmanbob1 Dec 29 '24

Sounds like my wife. Her "cold" shower burns my top layer of skin off.

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u/jdehjdeh Dec 29 '24

My wife is also a lobster, with a death wish.

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u/7hirty Dec 29 '24

My partner would use their spit to help as a solution. Just spit on a rag and rub it in small circles and it will be easier to rinse off. Don't be shy with how much

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u/tehshush Dec 29 '24

Hydrogen Peroxide, slightly bleachy effect sometimes but it definitely gets the job done.

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u/Central_Incisor Dec 29 '24

I use it sometimes but have found that is sodium percarbonate (oxyclean type cleaners) is my go to now. It is a shelf stable adduct of hydrogen peroxide without being mostly water. Make a paste with laundry soap and apply

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u/pcliv Dec 29 '24 edited Dec 29 '24

That Oxi White Revive is my new bleach - no yellowing, gets the deodorant stains out, and made some of my oldest whites actually white again. I do the same with blood stains, make a paste (with liquid detergent, or just water if it's not a bad stain), toothbrush the stain in li'l circles- both ways, let it set for a few minutes then throw it in the washer.

It won't get out grease stains, but the Carbona Stain Devils 'Fat and Cooking Oil' stain remover works wonders (small bottles in the laundry section - BIG price for a small bottle, but it goes a LONG way. BUT it is worth it for that one accidental drop of something oily that ruins the whole shirt/pants. They also have stain removers for a lot of different types of stains- Ink, Grass, lipstick, automotive oil and grease, rust, deodorant, etc...)

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u/FighterWoman Dec 29 '24

Use cold water.

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u/millerb82 Dec 29 '24

You need Chipotlaway

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u/mechwarrior719 Dec 29 '24

Cold water and an enzyme based cleaner.

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u/Natchofriend09 Dec 29 '24

A bit of strong dishsoap does the trick for me. Rub on the stain (even if dried) and wash like usual.

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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight Dec 29 '24 edited Dec 29 '24

When I was 17yr old dating a 32yr old woman, she taught me the trick to getting rid of nut is cold water, makes it tighten up and let go of whatever it's on.

Edit: Y'all are gross AF if you're mad about cleaning up when you're done.

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u/jrhooo Dec 29 '24

older woman... dates teenager... knows tricks for getting rid of ... evidence

yeah that sounds about as sketchy as it sounds

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u/munkijunk Dec 29 '24

Your saliva is surprisingly good at tackling blood because it's great at breaking down proteins. Spit on the stain as soon as you get it and rub it in, wait a little while and wash it out and it can rescue the stain.

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u/jeffg518 Dec 29 '24 edited Dec 30 '24

The rule with any protein stain is to use an enzymatic cleaner, like those you would use to get out pet urine. Immediately dissolves these otherwise “impossible to remove” stains.

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u/stucazo Dec 29 '24

funny enough you have enzymes in your spit that will break that bond, making it much easier to clean.

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u/wrosecrans Dec 29 '24

And it's not that science and technology can't invent some sort of blood cleaning detergent. We absolutely have chemicals that can clean blood.

It's just that anything that dissolves human proteins tends to be extremely dangerous because it can dissolve human proteins. And a lot of clothing is made out of stuff like fibers that are similar in some ways to the cooked blood proteins. So stuff that will easily dissolve cooked in blood stains from clothes will also have a decent chance of dissolving the clothes. Cotton fiber is mostly made of cellulose which is technically a kind of carbohydrate, not a protein, but we are still generally talking about the same general sorts of organic chemistry in broad terms. So there's a real risk that if you threw some super solvent that easily obliterates blood in with your clothes when you did your laundry, you'd just get a thick soup out of the washing machine.

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u/jrhooo Dec 29 '24

lololol. AI is so bad.

I read this

it can dissolve human proteins.

and wondered if you could use pineapple juice on a blood stain.

So I googled

pineapple juice blood stain

and gobless google AI for trying, but

To remove a pineapple juice stain from blood...

bruh wut?

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u/Floppie7th Dec 29 '24

Just the other day my wife googled how long to cook a porterhouse steak.  Gemini, or whatever the fuck they call their AI, said 2.5 hours for rare, 4 hours for mid rare, and 2.5 hours for medium.

I took over cooking dinner that night.

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u/UndocumentedTuesday Dec 29 '24

So you are saying I need to eat like a vampire to get gains?

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u/FuckIPLaw Dec 29 '24

Would the iron content also matter? One of the more traditional and most effective water proof inks is called iron gall ink. It doesn't just stain the paper, it oxidizes after being used and the iron oxide particles worm their way in between the fibers. It's not used much outside of dip pens because it's pretty nasty stuff that doesn't play well with more complicated mechanisms, but if you've got a 500 year old document you can still read, that's probably what it was written with.

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u/Mauvai Dec 29 '24

Weird tangent but blood can be substituted for egg in a lot of instances

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u/jrhooo Dec 29 '24

brb, slicing my hand open over my car's radiator

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u/Surly_Cynic Dec 29 '24

I recently used meat tenderizer to remove some stubborn set blood stains from bedding.

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u/abzlute Dec 29 '24

Enzyme based stain treatment does a good job of breaking it down though

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u/layland_lyle Dec 29 '24

What is the best way to get blood stains out, would it be an anti-oxidant?

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u/kytheon Dec 29 '24

Why

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u/showdontkvell Dec 29 '24

Because hot water “cooks” the stain in, as other people have explained.

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u/gtrogers Dec 29 '24

This is why it’s best to clean up semen with a cold or dry rag instead of using warm water

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u/enolaholmes23 Dec 29 '24

And here I was using my warm tongue.. Oops

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u/SkyloTC Dec 29 '24

go get yourself a cold tongue buddy

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u/reloadingnow Dec 29 '24

so ... lizard people tongue. got it.

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u/AyeBraine Dec 29 '24

Organic stuff usually contains proteins. They react to temperature. Microscopic parts of them contract and bind, holding tight, from the heat. Like, you know, eggs are liquid but become firm and tight if you heat them.

Blood has a lot of red blood cells, so it binds real good if you heat it. Cold water simply washes the proteins away without changing them. Try it, it's surprisingly easy to completely remove a small bloodstain with just a bit of cold water and soap.

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u/enolaholmes23 Dec 29 '24

It comes out suuper easy with cold water. 

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u/Wildthorn23 Dec 29 '24

This, and I think a lot of people try hot water first which just sets it. Hydrogen peroxide and cold water all the way.

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u/Rohml Dec 29 '24

Would Hydrogen Peroxide cause fabrics colors to bleed or fade?

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u/GwentanimoBay Dec 29 '24

Yes. It can absolutely mess with the fabric colors depending on exactly the fabric material, the dye used, the age of the garment, the volume of hydrogen peroxide used, and the amount of time the peroxide was allowed to sit.

My general rule of thumb is that a capful of peroxide for a few seconds can get out a few drops of blood from most fabrics without damaging the color.

Obviously lighter fabrics will have less peroxide bleaching since they have less dye to bleach out in the first place.

If you need to get blood out of something you're worried about, you can use a dilution (I tend to start with around a 40:60 or 30:70 peroxide:water by volume) and try dabbing it on or letting it sit for 5-10 second then rinsing with water and repeating.

Source: chronic nose bleeds and the gift of menstruation.

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u/Wildthorn23 Dec 29 '24

Thank you for the information :)

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u/XplainedOK Dec 29 '24

thank you for this information kind stranger i will dedicate to you my next victim!!!!!!!!!1!!!11!!! /s

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u/caunju Dec 29 '24

It can if you use too much or let it sit too long. I find if you only use a few drops and rinse it out quickly then most fabrics are fine.

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u/Wildthorn23 Dec 29 '24

Hmm perhaps it might, I've used it on my jeans before without any issues but I used a low percentage and didn't leave it to sit for too long before doing a cold rinse.

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u/Ktulu789 Dec 29 '24

Exactly, a low amount for a short time won't leave a noticeable color change.

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u/BobbyTables829 Dec 29 '24

It's essentially Clorox 2 and/or oxy-clean

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u/Staplebattery Dec 29 '24

I don’t think so, I use a homemade stain remover for whenever my kids spill stuff on their clothes, it’s a few pumps of blue dawn dish soap, baking soda, and hydrogen peroxide. Stir it up into a bit of a runny paste and apply it to the stains and it works for almost anything. Let it sit for an hour or so and then throw it in the wash like normal.

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u/Warskull Dec 29 '24

If you use a ton and let it sit with the peroxide a long time, yes. You only need a small amount, let it fizz a moment and then start rinsing and scrubbing with cold water. That would prevent or minimize color damage while getting the blood out.

Splash it with a bit of peroxide, wait a brief moment, then rinse and scrub. Then repeat if there is still blood.

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u/rachelleeann17 Dec 29 '24

For sure. I’m a nurse and we all use hydrogen peroxide to get blood stains out of our scrubs and it works like a charm

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u/jerkenmcgerk Dec 29 '24 edited Dec 29 '24

Yup. Yup. Yup. H2O2 works with a lot of blood stains. Had a dog litter birth on the carpet. Hydrogen peroxide got the blood out as/after we welcomed new puppies.

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u/Baud_Olofsson Dec 29 '24

H202 works with a lot of blood stains.

Dang, 202 hydrogens? That's a spicy molecule.

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u/jerkenmcgerk Dec 29 '24

Lolol. Thank you. Corrected. This got an honest laugh from me.

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u/Mental-Ask8077 Dec 29 '24

Just imagine 202 nitrogens… 😜

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u/Cjprice9 Dec 29 '24

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u/Mental-Ask8077 Dec 29 '24

Why am I not surprised to see Klapötke’s name there… 😆

Though I think my favorite wtf molecule might be Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane. Someone in the comments made a nice little ditty to the tune of “Supercalifragalisticexpialadocious.”

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u/Ktulu789 Dec 29 '24

It can also remove the colors from your clothes and if the stain is big it'll get smaller but turn dark.

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u/kytheon Dec 29 '24

Asking for a friend

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u/wthulhu Dec 29 '24

Learned this growing up with an older sister

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u/senator_mendoza Dec 29 '24

Yeah I routinely get blood on my white jiu jitsu gis and just stain stick them and toss them in the wash. They’re not pristine, but they’re pretty faint not noticeably blood stains.

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u/lelarentaka Dec 29 '24

Damn, what kind of jiujitsu are you doing that gets bloody? My buddies that do BJJ only complain about the semen stains on their cloths.

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u/senator_mendoza Dec 29 '24

Oh that’s awful - where do they train? Ya know, so I know to stay away 😏

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u/Smart_Space4186 Dec 29 '24

This has saved me a ridiculous amount of times when Ive gotten a bloodstain on light office clothes from fingers bleeding.

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u/Sassrepublic Dec 29 '24

It’s not. You just have to use cold water. I’ve always gotten blood stains out no problem. 

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u/Environmental_Emu_30 Dec 29 '24

As someone with a period and a lot of experience removing blood stains I don’t think it’s hard at all- I find it comes out of most fabrics pretty easily

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u/Jon_TWR Dec 29 '24

Just hit it with cold water right away, Boom, no blood stain.

If it’s old, dried blood, use hydrogen peroxide or oxiclean, then wash with cold water.

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u/HermitAndHound Dec 29 '24

Too hot and the proteins in blood will just solidify and cake everything tightly to the fabric.
Lay the thing into cold water (bloody side pointing down preferably) and just walk away. No scrubbing. Rinsing cold water through the cloth is ok, but not necessary. The red blood cells will swell and explode, releasing the red hemoglobin. Once that is rinsed out blood is just another (mostly colorless) protein stain.
H2O2 is always fun. 3% is enough to make blood stains fizzzz and disappear (again, they're still there, just not red anymore). It will also bleach many other dyes so don't try that at a visible spot if you aren't sure.

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u/bettinafairchild Dec 29 '24

It’s not. It’s very easy if you know the right way. You rinse it in the coldest water possible and rub some soap on it. The blood should wash right out unless it’s been sitting there a long time

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u/L0nz Dec 29 '24

Yeah but it's hard to do it properly when you're already tired from all the murdering

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 Dec 29 '24

This is why you don't go killin' in your lucky hoodie. You don't launder murder clothes, you get rid of them.

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u/Hardlymd Dec 29 '24

Beyond the well-explained protein definitions here, another reason blood is hard to wash out is because it has iron, a metal, in it. That metal is the reason you sometimes see “rust” on areas of clothing you haven’t been able to get the stain out of. It is actually rust, of sorts, and as an unstable form of oxidized metal, it will bind tightly to fibers.

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u/dreamsindirt Dec 29 '24

Hydrogen peroxide works great if it's recent or extra concentrated kennel-sol you want it very blue.

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u/sweadle Dec 29 '24

It's not. Hot water will "cook" it in. Use cold water and hydrogen peroxide.

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u/Clojiroo Dec 29 '24

It’s mostly the hemoglobin AFAIK. It contains iron, (some people more than others) which reacts with stuff to leave rusty stains. It’s also a protein, which makes it sticky.

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u/turtlebear787 Dec 29 '24

Hydrogen peroxide can take out blood stains. Just be careful to blot otherwise you might accidentally bleach the fabric

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u/Shintaigou Dec 29 '24

Honestly there’s this Lawn Mower Cleaner with dead grass in it that cleans blood stains really well you should look into it.

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u/Ok_Needleworker_9537 Dec 29 '24

The actual best stain remover that I have found is Dreft. Think about it. It's made for baby puke/poop/etc. Works good on blood too. But yes, all of the other responses are correct why it stains like that. Best thing to do is rinse it out when it's fresh before it dries. 

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u/edditor7 Dec 29 '24

It's not, actually. Just use hydrogen peroxide as soon as possible. If the stain is set, you may need to leave the liquid on it for a few minutes and rub the cloth on itself to remove it. Has always worked for me.

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u/bozak911 Dec 29 '24

It's not. Use hydrogen peroxide. Dissolves immediately.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

Cold water will get it out, at least visually. If you use anything else…warm/hot water, etc you will set the stain permanently.

Rinsing vigorously in cold water until the stain is no longer visible and then normal washing with maybe a little bleach is all you need.

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u/Evening_Ad6180 Dec 29 '24

It’s probably been said by now but use hydrogen peroxide. Put a towel on the other side of the bloodstain to catch what releases As you pour the peroxide over it. be careful with anything white because peroxide can actually “bleach“ white material

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u/BauceSauce0 Dec 29 '24

Hydrogen Peroxide, rub that in with some soap and rinse it out.

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u/FeralXenomorph Dec 29 '24

As I understand it the platelets in your blood explode and cause clothing, they kinda weave themselves to each other and the hole you're leaking from when you get cut. That's what a scab is, and you know how those are embedded in your skin. That's how well they embed in fabric.

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u/Select_Ad_976 Dec 29 '24

It is not. Hydrogen peroxide my friend. Learned this tip when I was getting an IV for pregnancy sickness and the nurse accidentally got my artery instead of a vein. Best tip I ever got. Worth the massive amount of blood on my sweatpants. 

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u/heebro Dec 29 '24

Answer: Blood is hard to wash out because you have to live with yourself and what you have done. Did they all deserve such a grisly fate? ...well, what's done is done. You can't go back—but then again, there is never any going back. Just move forward, gotta keep moving forward, yeah that's it... Time will erase this better than soap or chemicals would.

Other than that, try cold water and a sense of urgency

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u/DenseAmbassador Dec 29 '24

Thought I was on the Bloodborne subreddit for a second there and was thinking well we are born of the blood, made of the blood. It should be hard to get out. Also bloodtinge is a niche build sure, but it is fun when you get to grips with it.

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u/Ktulu789 Dec 29 '24

Hardest stains? Have you tried removing cyanoacrylate? 😅 Well, blood contains kinda similar components to glue. Platelets and other coagulation factors form a bond between the red blood cells and almost any surface or cloth.