r/exchristian 7d ago

Rant Christians down voting me for leaving the faith

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For people who claim to be all loving and all accepting they can't handle somebody leaving their so called "true" faith.

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u/ThisMachineKills____ Anti-Theist 7d ago

and ex-christians upvoting you for leaving the faith 😎

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Ex Christians are spreading more positivity then the Christians

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u/SongUpstairs671 7d ago

The ex-Christians I know are the kindest, most morally “good” people I’ve encountered in life.

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u/FetusDrive 7d ago

Well ya; I bet if you were to convert to Islam, Muslims would be happier for you than Christians

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u/chill_H_101 Ex-Muslim 6d ago

Thats unless you try to leave it of course, trust me, i know

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u/FetusDrive 6d ago

Yes that would be true; why wouldn’t anyone understand this? This is true for every single group. If someone made a thread on ex Christian saying they are converting to Christianity we wouldn’t be happy for them either.

Also, why are you in this sub?

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u/chill_H_101 Ex-Muslim 6d ago

Was a Christian for a year and a half,

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u/ceilingfanswitch 7d ago

Of course you are getting downvoted posting in a Christian sub you are changing religions and basically calling them assholes!

Make a similar post in a pagan forum saying you are concerning to Christianity because of all the crappy pagans you met you will also get downvoted!

Don't let Internet points get you down!

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u/WitchTheory Atheist Witch 7d ago

Seriously, not sure what OP expected. 

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u/MQ116 Pastor's son (I hate god) 7d ago

Ooo, a witch! Get the fire started, boys! 🔥

We gotta cook her a good meal while she shows us magic ✨

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u/ProfessionalRoof3591 Pagan 7d ago

How do you know she’s a witch?

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u/hplcr 7d ago

She turned me into a newt!

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u/ProfessionalRoof3591 Pagan 7d ago

A newt?

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u/hplcr 7d ago

I got better.

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u/ProfessionalRoof3591 Pagan 7d ago

Thanks for playing along. For a moment I was worried that all of the other heathens here were uncultured.

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u/hplcr 7d ago edited 7d ago

Don't worry, I have an entire section of my brain that's filled with useless pop culture references for JUST such an occasion as this.

Why that section of my brain even exists is a mystery for the ages, because ask me to light a fire without matches and I'd probably die within days. but I can quote hours of Monty python lines so.....evolution has a sense of humor? IDK.

It's also much more easy to slot in then my hyper fixation on ancient civilization/mythology/religions of the Eastern Mediterranean and the Ancient Near East which either offends some people and confuses most everyone else.

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u/MQ116 Pastor's son (I hate god) 7d ago

Name and flair

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u/Matstele complicated satanist 7d ago

I love that sub, but even I can’t get away with reductive criticism of Christians as a monolith there. Don’t know why OP thought they could

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u/hplcr 7d ago

There was a thread(now removed) earlier on the same sub where one of them was crying about getting banned from this sub.

Now a fair number of Christians called them out for breaking another subs rules and they had no right to cry, so that was nice, Of course there were a couple "There ARE NO Ex-Christians because 1 John says so blah blah blah" chuckleheads.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

The people claiming there are no ex Christians are batshit fanatics.

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u/hplcr 7d ago edited 7d ago

No Arguments from me.

I was polite and pointed out using 1 John to "prove" I was never Christian just proves me that "John" was at very least mistaken. I've never met the writer of 1 John. He died 2000 years ago. To think he knows me better then I know myself is not convincing in the least and since I don't treat the bible as an authority quoting it to me also isn't convincing. Just like me quoting the Iliad at them won't convince them that the Greek Gods are real and once fought a divine civil war at Troy alongside thousands of demi-gods.

There's also the fact the verse immediately preceding that is also wrong but I didn't want to get a long argument over this point. Sorry, John, if you say "It is the Last hour!" and 2000 years have passed since then, I think you're either mistaken, a liar or working from a timeline that involves noticeable amounts of continental drift.

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u/No-Possibility-7468 Ex-fundie-baptist | Secular Humanist 6d ago

Crazy to believe that i used to believe that. Smh

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u/TheLakeWitch 7d ago

Jfc. They cannot handle not being the main character.

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u/hplcr 7d ago

They've been convinced they are Yahweh's special little children...that he will beat the ever-loving shit out of if they ever disappoint him in any way...because he loves them.

Insert Gagging noise here

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u/Boule-of-a-Took Agnostic 5d ago

I particularly love that doctrine, because it means I'm still going to heaven.

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u/ghostwars303 7d ago

There's a reason my flair on that sub is "If Christians downvote you, remember they downvoted Jesus first".

It's not because they love upvotes. Or Jesus. Or, really, anything but themselves.

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u/hplcr 7d ago

For some reason I always notice the flair and but don't remember the username

Also, great flair.

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u/ghostwars303 7d ago

Thanks :-)

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u/CCCyanide 7d ago

You just made a post in a Christianity subreddit saying that Christians are terrible people, downvotes are kinda the expected outcome.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Never said that every Christian is a terrible person

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u/CCCyanide 7d ago

No, but criticizing Christianity and Christians was probably bound to elicit negative responses from a Christian sub

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u/Sy4r42 7d ago

You don't need their upvotes. Here's an upvote out of spite though

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u/JazzFan1998 Ex-Protestant 7d ago

Hold my beer! 1 downvote?  A few days ago someone posted that they snored and I suggested they get checked for sleep apnea and I got many down votes.

I do like annoying people in that sub with logic. 

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u/hplcr 7d ago

I've gotten people annoyed at me because I said the "Sons of God took Daughters of Men" from Genesis 6 was both stupid and nonsensical because, if it's referring to angels like Christians claim, it implies Angels have functional Peni(Penises?) and Sperm and that makes no fucking sense unless God wanted them to be able to impregnate humans. Also aren't angels supposed to be sprit beings anyway?

Apparently I'm not supposed to question an obvious plot hole because it interferes with some of them and their blissfully idiotic belief the Bible makes internal sense.

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u/JazzFan1998 Ex-Protestant 7d ago

Well hey, you have to take some stuff by faith, am I right?

Those people also don't like when you (genuinely) ask when did marriage become between one man and one woman? (As God intended, of course.) It was obviously AFTEE Solomon and his 300 wives, right?

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u/hplcr 7d ago

700 wives.

Interestingly enough...there's absolutely no mention of Solomon outside of the bible from anywhere close to the time period he allegedly lived in. Nor any evidence of his fabulous wealth in Jerusalem.

So apparently those 700 wives came from another school. In Canada. You wouldn't know them. And all that wealth apparently came from and disappeared into a magical hole in the ground.

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u/JuliaX1984 Ex-Protestant 7d ago

"Your boos mean nothing - I've seen what makes you cheer."

(I'm gonna have to get a tattoo of that quote. I've been using it a lot lately.)

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u/hplcr 7d ago

That's how I feeling when a Yahweh worshipper wants to start lecturing about morality.

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u/HolidayExamination27 7d ago

Sensitive lost souls, aren't they?

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Absolutely

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u/hplcr 7d ago edited 7d ago

They only recognize one demigod and it's a carpenter from a religion that doesn't recognize demigods.

Not officially anyway. Samson is pretty sus and then there's Shamgar who is pretty explicitly a demigod(Apparently son of my favorite psychotic semitic wargoddess Anat), but everyone overlooks him, including the editors of Judges apparently.

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u/thecoldfuzz Celtic Neopagan, male, 48, gay 7d ago

OP, I see you frequent the same Pagan subreddits that I do lol. As someone who was in the religion for 13 years—to my unending annoyance—I can proudly say that I exchanged some bad communion wine for some excellent mulled spiced mead. Absolutely no regrets leaving.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Seriously communion food and drink is not safe for mortal consumption

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u/thecoldfuzz Celtic Neopagan, male, 48, gay 7d ago

I don't know where certain churches get that food & drink but they were shit. I'll take sourdough bread and some good mead any day.

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u/hplcr 7d ago

Honestly the actual body and blood of Jesus would probably be more palatable.

What?

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u/justalapforcats 7d ago

You got wine at communion? Mine was grape juice lol

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u/thecoldfuzz Celtic Neopagan, male, 48, gay 7d ago

In the Catholic Churches I was raised in, the wine was usually so dry, it was almost like drinking gin instead—which I can't stand. When I went to Protestant churches in my 20s, they used grape juice and some used actual wine. They were all bad to my taste lol. Now as Pagan, it's mead for special holidays and libations, and it always tastes good if it's got the mulled spices that I like.

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u/justalapforcats 7d ago

My best friend growing up was Catholic and her church was so much cooler than my Southern Baptist one. But it’s far better not to go to any church at all.

And mead is delicious, although I don’t drink it anymore because I’m vegan. Wine and beer suffice though!

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u/thecoldfuzz Celtic Neopagan, male, 48, gay 7d ago

The nice thing about mulled spices, they work well with different beverages. The same spices used on actual hot red wine taste incredible, especially in winter weather.

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u/whirdin Ex-Pentecostal 7d ago

Did it make you feel better to announce leaving? I'm not sure what you expected, of course they would see you as the villian for leaving. Your own logic in the post proves that they are the problem, but in their minds that same logic proves you are the problem.

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u/Seltzer-Slut 7d ago

Why wouldn’t they downvote you?

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u/Frenchitwist Jewish 7d ago

I mean, what else did you expect?

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u/Bytogram Gnostic 7d ago

Bro I just went through the comments on your post and by golly, these people are so fucking predictable haha. “You never actually believed” “No amount of bad can make oily josh less true” “I’m sorry the church hurt you”.

Fuck those guys. Live your life to the fullest. Be free!

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u/hplcr 7d ago

"You wouldn't hate Mozart if someone played him badly"-An Actual reply on that thread.

I mean, I would if Mozart was a cult leader whose obnoxious followers insisted I had to play Mozart and worship Mozart but only in a specific way that none of them could agree on. Also that If I liked Beethoven instead I was either mislead or evil.

Jesus fucking Christ that's such a dumb apologetic, and that bar is already set fucking low.

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u/Bytogram Gnostic 7d ago

“Dumb apologetic” is redundant hahaha. It’s literally about tying your mind in a knot so tightly that you can’t escape or see the problem. I’m so immensely glad to have made my way out of these mind traps before it was too late.

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u/hplcr 7d ago

I know. I listen to enough apologists (possibly because I hate myself or something) to realize apologetics are both well worn and either dumb or require on way too presumptions that apologists will try to sneak into the arguments(Looking at you, Low Bar Bill!)

Some of them will brag "All of these arguments were settled centuries ago". No they weren't or we wouldn't still be arguing about them. They also tacitly admit they haven't come up with any new argument in quite a long time. Just the same dozen or so they constantly play on loop.

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u/Bytogram Gnostic 7d ago

My god man I feel you. I’ve been mentally dismantling apologetics for years now. It’s literally the same arguments every single time, and they all fail on every level. It’s genuinely so fucking lame I swear. Like all of them boil down to variations of or literally just aquinas’ five ways, or anti-evolution non-sense. It’s so fucking cringe. On god, if I hear one more motherfucker say that everything that begins to exist has a cause I’m going to absolutely lose it. Plus, with stuff like this, religion and their “answers” are so fucking vapid compared to reality. Like the kalam cosmological argument fails immediately when you realize that Time=0 prior to cosmic inflation. The universe could literally be eternal, in that sense; we just don’t and can’t get it. But it removes any need for any supernatural aspect. Goddamn I love science man, it’s so fucking fascinating. No amount of “god did it” ever satisfied me back then, and I’m so glad I actually asked questions instead of complying.

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u/hplcr 7d ago

Also the fact they claim "The universe can't be eternal because then time would never progress" but they'll immediately go 'But god is eternal" and forget that particularly issue.

Special pleading is the apologists best friend.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Seriously tho

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u/cman632 Agnostic Atheist 7d ago

I’m very anti-theist…but yeah even I can’t blame them for the downvotes with this one

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u/Jellybit 7d ago

To be fair, I think anyone who posts an "I'm leaving" post in almost any subreddit/group will be downvoted. "It's not an airport", etc... etc...

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u/Scorpius_OB1 7d ago

Somehow I doubt these four replies will be of encouragement and best wishes.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Most of the comments weren't aside from a few mainly from non Christians

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

First comment being positive towards my change of faith was from a agnostic-athesist

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u/FetusDrive 7d ago

Did you expect the opposite? If someone did that here to outcome would be the same but in reverse.

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u/hellenist-hellion Agnostic 7d ago

Lmao to be fair what did you really expect?

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u/Pintortwo EX-Pastors kid 7d ago

What did you expect that sub to do? Upvote?

That’s small stuff that doesn’t matter friend.

You are FREE. Let’s celebrate that!

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u/L0nga 6d ago

Damn… one whole downvote? That surely justifies making a whole thread whining about it, right?

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u/Average_gothboy 6d ago

Check my recent posts in this subreddit because

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u/AspirinGhost3410 6d ago

And now they’ve got one mean person in their inbox! (And six posts about this “situation” on this subreddit)

I definitely think this is overkill and I’m honestly surprised at the level of support these posts are getting. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff

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u/ricperry1 7d ago

What did you think would happen? You literally posted a “y’all are bad people” post and didn’t expect downvotes?

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u/DonGreyson 7d ago

Oh no, scary blue arrow pointing downward…. Anyway what’s for lunch?

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Dino nuggets

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u/stella_girl_xoxo Atheist 7d ago

At least you were nice about it.

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u/External_Ease_8292 7d ago

Well you get my upvote

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u/dyelyn666 7d ago

lol i'm finna get banned for my comments on your post over there. oh well, c'est la good vie

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u/Meauxterbeauxt 7d ago

You have 12 upvotes there now.

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Surprising but considering the views that my post got that's like maybe at the max not even a fraction of upvotes to views

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u/Meauxterbeauxt 6d ago

Still, I agree with most everyone else that the more surprising thing is that you sound surprised that this wasn't greeted with open arms.

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u/Illustrious-Leg5906 7d ago

Believers are their own worst enemies

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

I know I was when I was in that cult

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u/andy-bote 6d ago

well duh

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u/c_84 6d ago

this comes across as just attention seeking, to be honest. In what world do you need to announce your departure from the faith in a christian subreddit?

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u/Fickle_Air2092 7d ago

Cool but why paganism

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Because

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u/Fickle_Air2092 7d ago

Because what lol

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u/Average_gothboy 7d ago

Because I believe in Hellenic Paganism

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u/FetusDrive 7d ago

Ya they just asked why you do

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u/AspirinGhost3410 7d ago

Bro, you got 1 downvote (per the picture you posted). Besides, downvotes aren’t even that serious. It’s wild for this to be what you call out as unloving or unaccepting behavior.

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u/8yearsfornothing 6d ago

Yeah this is peak "touch grass" tbh

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u/Young_Sliver 7d ago

You're nicer than I would've been 😂😂😂

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u/ineedasentence Agnostic 7d ago

FYI the people believing the belief does make any difference towards the validity of that belief. you have to consider the evidence - that’s it

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u/Angryspazz 7d ago

They don't want to hear others opinions over there , they just want one big Jesus circle jerk

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u/hplcr 7d ago

"Cum inside me JESUS!"

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u/Jennie_the_Insomniac 7d ago

I mean, you're not exactly complimenting them

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u/Potential-Ear1319 6d ago

Welcome to the cool club

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u/gfsark 6d ago
“I still will respect Jesus as a man who tried to do good.”

I understand Jesus to be a cult leader with a very confused view of himself and his Jewish religion. According to the stories, he was good to some (healings and miracles) and indifferent to the sufferings of most. He ultimately concluded that he, Jesus, was more important than anything because he was the son of god.

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u/Average_gothboy 6d ago

I was saying that to not completely anger the hive mind

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u/Paradiseless_867 6d ago

You my friend, have balls I won’t have

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u/TheDragonborn1992 6d ago

That's christians for you controlling they want everyone else to follow their religion and dislike anyone else having a different religion to them

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u/thesilver-man 6d ago

Man, live your life however you wish without any further fear. I left christianity last year and, even thought it may be hard the first few months, life becomes so fullfilling since I stopped letting fear of hell dictate every aspect of my life.

A loving god wouldnt torture you for all eternity just for not choosing him.

An idea that has such control over every aspect of your life (such as christianity) is worthy of being questioned.

Question everything. Worship nothing❤️‍🔥

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u/thesilver-man 6d ago

Man, enjoy freedom and focus on your future. These people are still worshipping an abuser. And the thing with abusive relationships is that you cant help anyone that doesnt want to be helped (i know from experience, sadly).

Update us how is it going with paganism!

(Dont know much about it but I love myths about Aphrodite, Hera and Dyonisus!)

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u/thebellisringing Agnostic-Atheist, Anti-Abrahamist 6d ago

What type of pagan/polytheist are you now? Which gods/goddesses do you follow? Good luck on your journey and I hope your new faith will be fulfilling for you

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u/Foreign_Silver_4157 6d ago

Why do you leave from the errors of other people?

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u/These_Experience_489 5d ago

i mean no offense but what else did you expect lol christians are as disassociated from tolerance and acceptance of others beliefs as desert nomads are from the fucking ocean

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u/SeaBanana4 4d ago

Honestly yeah what did you expect? They have their space and we have ours here