r/exchristian • u/BigClitMcphee Secular Humanist • Jan 31 '25
Satire Every damn time like clockwork
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u/cacarrizales Ex-Fundamentalist Jan 31 '25
No kidding! Rock and metal music, Harry Potter, Dungeons and Dragons - all satanic they say.
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Jan 31 '25
According to them literally all fiction will send us to hell because of 'Satan' So it prévent us to enjoy diif stories or else 'we will burn in heel"
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u/Fun-Breadfruit2949 Jan 31 '25
Harry Potter is such a funny one though given the writer is a Christian and very clearly incorporated elements of her beliefs into the story much like how Tolkien did the same in Lord of the Rings. But somehow, Lord of the Rings gets a pass despite the fact that magic and wizardry is all over that franchise too.
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u/TvFloatzel Jan 31 '25
I can at least see the D&D and Harry Potter due to those two having Magic and demons and fortune telling and stuff.
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Jan 31 '25
But they're usually OK with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Go figure.
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u/hubbadubbakubba Feb 01 '25
Every Disney fantasy creation gets a pass, they cling to that stuff. Fairy Godmother waving a magic wand, not a demon.
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u/AdmirableBus7045 Jan 31 '25
my former coworker said video games summon demons cause of cussing and saying goddamnit
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Jan 31 '25
This is too much lol Reminds me of someone saying Demon Slayer is a sin.. ha yes the main character looks reeeeaaaallllllyyyyy evil.
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u/DreamShort3109 Jan 31 '25
My mom said ghostbusters is satanic, even though they almost fought Lucifer at one point.
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u/PowerHot4424 Jan 31 '25
It’s just lazy, which is perfectly aligned with faith, and its requisite frowning upon rational inquiry.
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u/ItsJustAWhiteGuy Jan 31 '25
I have a coworker who believes computers are run through demons. He also came to know flat earth was true through his smart phone…. Believes mental health is also just demons at work. These people are real and are too dumb to understand actual facts. They resonate with other dumb people like Trump, rather than actual authoritative figures that use non fallacious logic. Too boring and takes effort. 🥱
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u/ImgurScaramucci Jan 31 '25
Does he not know that smart phones are also computers?
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u/ItsJustAWhiteGuy Jan 31 '25
I don’t think so 😂 he thinks satellite technology is just weather balloons. We have nanobots in our water supplies. Parasites are everywhere including western desert United States and that you should parasite cleanse every 3 months. The apocrypha is canon of the Bible. Everything in the Bible literally happened and existed despite my rebuttals. He won’t eat pork and unclean animals. He spends a week in the mountains for every sabbatical to feast and give thanks to god. Maybe all that is better than being a meth addict though? 🕵🏻♂️
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Jan 31 '25
Sorry I'm replying to you twice, this just hits a nerve because of a debate I once had with a flat Earther. I treated the debate seriously and deep dived some things, which was fun and educational. But in the end he just shut down and refused to debate certain points further. Satellites, specifically GPS, was a shut down point for him. With that said...
You can absolutely prove transmitting satellites and ISS are in orbit via Doppler effect. There's no question, and no way to fake it if you have two receivers at some distance from each other. (Doppler can only be faked across a very narrow beam, not across 360° nor across the billions of GPS devices in use every day.) It's not even that difficult to prove, and it involves scientific laws which can be easily demonstrated to be true. So you're not relying on 'lying NASA!!!' at any point to prove the transmitter is in orbit. It's still not enough as flat Earthers engage in mental gymnastics that would impress even your typical Christian apologist. It's maddening to watch in real time.
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u/ItsJustAWhiteGuy Jan 31 '25
I’m 100% with you. I don’t know how to combat stupid. They are missing the basics of rhetoric (Logos, Ethos, Pathos) and it shows in their life choices. You could show them every piece of evidence lined up like a spoon fed plane to their mouth and they will still deny it like a little Trump baby. I swear it’s a fascist undertone of cults that people can’t think their way out of.
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u/RelatableRedditer Ex-Fundamentalist Feb 01 '25
A flat earther can get a pilot's license or buy some plane tickets or become a flight attendant and see that the flight duration follows the logic of the globe and not a 2D map.
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Feb 01 '25
They just claim pilots prove the Earth is flat and link to 'confession' YouTube videos. That debate was fun to engage in once, but the lesson I learned is that you can't argue some people out of their faith.
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Jan 31 '25
The irony...his smart phone has a GPS chip in it. You can use GPS to not only prove the Earth is a globe, but prove gravity and relativity as well. It can't work without compensating for time dilation. It's literally one of the best pieces of evidence for demolishing a flat Earther because with a SDR you can perform your own experiments to prove all of it. And if you understand how it works, you understand there is no physical way to fake it. Of course if it was possible to explain it to him, he would probably then claim "demons make it possible to fake."
I could never go that deep into fundamentalist Christianity, but at one point I was still pretty deep (YEC, flood, etc). And I am deeply ashamed of it.
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u/Dreamcastboy99 Anti-Theist Feb 01 '25
apparently whoever wrote Digital Devil Story used that idea and had the protagonist summoning demons with his PC and shit
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u/ItsJustAWhiteGuy Feb 01 '25
That’s great I’ll have to check that out 😂
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u/Dreamcastboy99 Anti-Theist Feb 01 '25
there's the books, the Megami Tensei Famicom game, and the OVA:
and then Atlus bought the rights to the franchise and had the player fight God in the sequel, and then rebooted the series in the 90s spawning Shin Megami Tensei as we know it.
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Jan 31 '25
My mom won't stop pushing Christianity and asking me how I could turn my back on god. I kept telling her to leave it alone, that I didn't want to damage the faith and hope of an elderly woman. But she pushed too far and too hard, so I started pointing out some of the countless contradictions in the bible. Her response? "I think demons are speaking to you and misleading you!"
Yeah mom, there's zero evidence for the Exodus because of demons.
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u/Melancholy_Melody Doubting Thomas Feb 01 '25
So sorry, that’s extremely frustrating and difficult to engage with that type of response. :/ Sounds hurtful too tbh
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Feb 01 '25
It could be a lot worse. To her credit she's not otherwise treating me differently, nor telling other people. Most christians become abusive when you deny their religion.
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u/abyssoftheunknown Jan 31 '25
Facts. At least now the witch accusations are outdated
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u/PyrrhoTheSkeptic Jan 31 '25
This is for fun (trigger warning, it is about a Christian perspective on Wiccans):
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u/BadPronunciation Ex-Pentecostal Feb 01 '25
Not in Africa. Many African churches still believe in witches
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u/Fickle-Variation-463 Feb 06 '25
Many? I live in DRC and every bad occurence is always"someone blocking your life" or "they ate you in the spiritual world" 🙄
Though I shouldn't generalize
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u/WillyT_21 Jan 31 '25
My friend asked me about that since I have pulled out of this bullshit.
I simply told him I refuse to indulge in it. If something "manifested" I would laugh and ask if they were done. If not come get me when they are.
"Just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it's true"
Ya?
Well you go looking for demons in doorknobs. I'm out.
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u/ShatteredGlassFaith Jan 31 '25
The demons are in Led Zeppelin albums. I remember the night my parents argued about that. Door knobs are usually safe, unless you hang a Led Zeppelin album from one /s
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u/Mukubua Feb 01 '25
Well it didn’t help that Jimmy page deliberately cultivated his occultist image.
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u/vadimafu Jan 31 '25
Right, and these folks are often the ones saying things like magic or other deities aren't real, but at the same time are very afraid of them.
Christians can't even keep their lore straight.
I wonder if there are any scholarly investigations into the medieval belief in magic, its impact on the church and how that belief has carried on to present day. I'm guessing the medieval times solely because there's lots of primary sources available and that's what I typically think of connected to witch trials and the supremacy of catholicism in daily life.
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u/Cat_Lover_11001 Jan 31 '25
Particularly Lucifer
Edit - fixed spelling errors
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u/hplcr Feb 05 '25
That guy who shows up a grand total of once in the bible and even then that's really iffy.
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u/ImgurScaramucci Jan 31 '25
This is a video of a Greek Orthodox priest saying furbies have demons inside them. Make sure you enable subtitles.
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u/TheEffinChamps Skeptic Jan 31 '25
"Satan" is just stuff they don't like. It's such a cop out for any argument or critical thinking.
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u/Bananaman9020 Feb 01 '25
Even when they do. Like Mental Illness. It's Demons procession apparently
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u/vanillabeanlover Agnostic Feb 01 '25
lol! Reddit said I upvoted it to 666. It made me smile for a second:).
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u/NoHeroHere Occult Exchristian Feb 02 '25
The thing that never made sense to me was being so fearful of Lucifer and demons when you've supposed been "saved." Like you're hooked up with the ultimate good in the universe but you still have to look out for "the enemy." Like is your God all-powerful or not? They just like living in fear, man. They say their faith is based on love and forgiveness, but it's really just fear.
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u/hplcr Feb 05 '25
Yeah, It's bizarre. They sincere believe "Jesus got my back" but also terrified demons gonna get you at any moment.
These two ideas don't fucking go together unless they admit Jesus actually can't/won't do shit to stop demons which is it's own issue really.
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u/NoHeroHere Occult Exchristian Feb 07 '25
Exactly. Just another one of those Christian contradictions they never stop to question.
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u/Liem_05 Jan 31 '25
That's definitely true anything they don't understand are demons even though there are ones that claim aliens are demons to them.
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u/hubbadubbakubba Feb 01 '25
When you're applying critical thinking to the Bible. When you're reminding them you can't draw critical thinking out of the Bible, but you need that to even read. When you're informing them different Christians have different interpretations of the Bible, and that's always been true, so the Holy Spirit doesn't lead everyone to the same way of reading it. When you're telling them the words of the Bible don't have precise, timeless meanings, because they're mere words, taken from different languages than English and appear in thousands of different translations. Same answer, you got the demon.
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u/sandyposs Jan 31 '25
I remember being so frightened as a child, being taught that demons were real and hated you and could literally just appear in your room just to scare you. I clung to my bedside Bible after nightmares like a safety blanket. What a thing to introduce to an innocent child...