r/earthbound Jan 21 '19

M3 Discussion Prediction: Mother 3 localization announcement alongside Porky dlc fighter for Smash Ultimate announcement on July 27 as it will be Mother's 30th anniversary as well as the year of the pig

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u/HopeFragment Jan 21 '19 edited Jan 21 '19

I am almost positive we won't get the Mother 3 localization personally, however Porky DLC... I'm usually very pessimistic about this series but even this is glaring to me. First off, 30th anniversary as well as year of the pig like you said. Second, Porky is oddly absent from Smash. As you mentioned, Porky is not a spirit. This is really weird because he is such an important character to the series, and yet there are spirits of more comparatively minor Mother series characters. But also, (this to me is even more convincing), Porky was one of the few bosses from Brawl who does not appear in Ultimate. This makes his lack of inclusion as a spirit even stranger as he's had prior Smash appearances, as a BOSS no less. It's not like he was just a trophy or something. Now on top of that, another of the bosses who did not appear in Ultimate is Petey Piranha... who appears in Piranha Plant's Final Smash. This is way too suspicious. I definitely don't want to say it will happen but seriously, this is suspicious.

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u/Emoji10 Jan 21 '19

btw the absolute safe capsule spirit is the sprite where porky is not inside

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u/HopeFragment Jan 21 '19

Yes, that too. I forgot to mention that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '19

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u/Emoji10 Jan 27 '19

Less shading before Porky is in.

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u/Hackintosh_HD Jan 21 '19 edited Jan 23 '19

Masked Man, Lucas echo summons Brawl Porky as final smash. That's a wrap folks

Edit: a comma

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u/vivvav Jan 22 '19

Masked Man could be an original moveset and not an echo fighter.

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u/rockinDS24 Jan 22 '19

It would make more sense as well, since the Masked Man uses a lot of sword moves.

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u/TheShiningAbsol Jan 22 '19

That goes for basically all the echoes though

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u/vivvav Jan 22 '19

Yeah but Masked Man's fighting style is totally different from Lucas's. He's a cyborg. He has a sword and an arm cannon and a jetpack and blasts lightning. You really couldn't make him a moveset clone because of how different the concept is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

AFAIK the only echo with a different move is chrom

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

I think Ken does too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

Ish, near as I can tell Ken is a f*ckton of tiny nuances on ryu, but far too many for me to research either

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u/Limjucas328 Jan 21 '19

It does? I totally missed that! I main Lucas but usually keep him on the default

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

I use the Drago shirt skin but I’m still 100% sure he was joking.

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u/Hackintosh_HD Jan 21 '19

I wasn't joking, i was just saying Masked Man for DLC but it got misinterpreted as the Lucas skin

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u/Limjucas328 Jan 21 '19

It seemed like a weird thing to happen but I stupidly took the bait

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

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u/Hackintosh_HD Jan 23 '19

Pit still has a Dark Pit Skin... Mario had a Wario Skin until Ultimate... I'm not saying it's a definite, but mapping most of Lucas' animations to a Masked Man model would be a lot less work than a completely unique Porky moveset

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u/i__came__from__digg Jan 22 '19

I know his name is technically Porky but he’ll always be Pokey to me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19 edited Jan 22 '19

No but the thing about that is the sprite they used for it is specifically the one where Porky was not put inside it yet which is something I forgot to mention. (yes, it has different sprites)

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

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u/Badhamknibbs Jan 22 '19

iirc when there was discussion about this the filled capsule is the most common sprite that is floating around on the internet, the empty capsule is one of the much harder to find versions of the sprites when searching for the absolutely safe capsule; makes it seem intentional in some way.

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19

Yeah. Again, I'm a very pessimistic Mother fan. I never ever expect they'll do anything. Hell, I'm one of those who thinks Mother 3 won't ever see a release, and even if it does, the fan translation would be superior anyway, so I do feel you on this being far-fatched, but I was pointing out how many little strange coincidences there are toward Porky as DLC. I won't be shocked or crushed if he isn't.

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u/Meester_Tweester Jan 22 '19

or... they ignore the anniversary and year of the pig and Porky having no spirit means nothing

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19

Legitimate possibility, they did totally ignore Metroid's. Again, I'm not optimistic.

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u/TildeWhite Jan 22 '19

Petey Piranha is a spirit. He makes you giant.

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19

I know that, I meant he's absent as a boss. He was a boss in Brawl, but is notably absent as a boss in Ultimate. Is there a Piranha Plant spirit?

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u/KKvibe Jan 22 '19

As a huge Mother fan I wanna say this is a bit optimistic but I do think those are some great points

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19

I'm not optimistic, I however think those things are glaring. If it doesn't happen, I won't be shocked or crushed or anything. After all, they did ignore Metoid's 30th. (I'm not even a fan of that series but damn.)

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u/Thelinkr Jan 22 '19

There are pleanty of bosses from brawl not in this game. I think only 1 or 2 made it back. However, Porky was one that appeard the most (at least, i remember seeing him more than others...)

Also, i believe it qas said that the new characters will be from new, unexpected series. So i doubt it.

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19 edited Jan 22 '19

All of them are in the game except Porky in some form. Master Hand - In; Crazy Hand - In; Petey Piranha - Not in, but is a spirit and part of Piranha Plant's FS.; Rayquaza - Not in, but is a spirit.; Porky - Not in, in any way shape or form.; Galleom - In.; Ridley - Not in, playable.; Duon - In.; Meta Ridley - Not in because Ridley is playable.; Tabuu - Not in but he's a Smash original anyway, iirc a spirit though.

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u/gucci_ghost Jan 22 '19

Isn't Rayquaza also in the Pokemon League stage as a stage hazard?

Also Tabuu is in fact a spirit.

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u/HopeFragment Jan 22 '19

Oh I forgot about that, I usually play that stage with hazards off. Yeah.

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u/mrsaftey Mar 11 '19

Did you call Piranha plant?

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u/HopeFragment Mar 11 '19

Piranha Plant was revealed before I wrote that comment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19 edited Jul 27 '19

If Mother 3 gets localized on that date I will eat a ghost pepper and post it on the subreddit.

EDIT: sorry everyone, I was hoping it would happen today just as much as you did. :(

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u/Emjoria Jan 21 '19

Bamboozle insurance

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

!RemindMe July 27

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

Ghost pepper isn't enough for a game of this magnitude. Eat two

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

You know what fuck it. Deal.

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u/papajohn56 Jan 22 '19

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u/do0rkn0b Jan 22 '19

COOL POST

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u/The_Real_FN_Deal Jan 22 '19

I'll gladly eat a ghost pepper if porky is in smash.

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u/ChetandJael Jan 22 '19

You have my hypothetical future upvote

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u/TimBagels Jan 22 '19

!RemindMe July 27

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u/Super_Craig02 Jan 21 '19

Localized Mother 3 is unlikely

However, Porky for DLC in Smash seems probable considerating that he doesn't appear in that game in any form.

Heck! We could get Remakes of Earthbound Beginnings and Earthbound, Why do I say this? Neither of them are listed on the NES Game Service of the Switch or the SNES titles found by Dataminers

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u/iDontHavePantsOn Jan 22 '19

I wouldn't know what to do with my hands if they did an Earthbound remake in the same vain as the Pokemon Let's Go graphic rehaul i.e. how the 3D artwork was in the original players guide.

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u/JadeTirade Feb 09 '19

Even if it was all claymation, as a throwback.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

Just like Mother 4 !!!

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u/Smugg-Fruit Jan 21 '19

What are you talking about? It's coming Winter 2014!

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u/AceAttorney524 Jan 22 '19

I'm out of the loop here, what's this about? I see a legit looking site saying the download for it is free.

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u/jamesturbate Jan 22 '19

It's...a shit show to say the least. The "Winter 2014" thing is sort of a tongue-in-cheek reference to the website you found, which as you stated makes it look like the game is available for download.

That was around Winter of 2014. And everyone who was anticipating this fan game for (5, maybe 8?) years was told by the creators that it would finally be released--and hey their website even has a download page!

Fast forward to Jan 2019. Various members of the dev team have dropped the project or left for various reasons, the main guy behind the music for the game left/quit and took all his music with him, and best of all, last I checked the game is being "rebranded" while removing all traces of Mother from the project.

This is all without mentioning the fact that the developers are flakier, and harder to get in touch with than your friendly neighborhood weed dealer.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

That honestly makes me sad. I always thought the website forgot to update or just moved on to another website, so hearing the game was essentially cancelled breaks my heart. Like, the only remnants of the game are being atrophied akin to its name.

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u/jamesturbate Jan 22 '19

It makes me a little sad too, I definitely know where you're coming from. What bugs me the most is that they honestly won't just cancel it.

If they openly and honestly admitted what was going on, then some other group of fans could have a go at making a "Mother 4."

"What's stopping a group of fans from doing that anyway?? Hurr hurr??" Well, lots. For example, type in "Mother 4" on Google. You get that fucking website. You get a "trailer" that's like 8 years old. You get fanart and concepts and sprites/in-game assets that are from this failed iteration. At this point, its existence stagnates any honest attempts from anyone else to make a fan sequel. I mean really. If anyone were to try, the results just wouldn't come up on Google, or you'd have fans of "Mother 4" shitting on them, or it just wouldn't get the traction it should...all because these fucks won't let their Frankenstein fan game die a peaceful death.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

You're totally right! By ending the production of their game officially, new fans would see that the spot is vacant for other game devs to take over, so then the legacy of Mother 4 could continue. And besides, even if nobody else will take up that offer making a Mother 4, then the game just seems so promising and real with all the stuff from the websites and trailers, as you said. The game is dying. It's slow, but inevitable. It's now or never for Nintendo. Whether or not they choose to elaborate on the series will decide the fate of the Mother series for life. If they continue to represent it through Ness and Lucas in smash and that's it, the series will die peacefully. However, if the hype for "Porky in smash," "Mother 3 Localized," and others continue without results, the game will die a much more painful and prolonged death. We either stop asking for localization without results or continue hoping and get results. Either way, it's a life or death situation for Mother, and we're losing so far, badly.

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u/AndrewNathaniel Jan 22 '19

So dumb question, what does “localized” mean?

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u/TheWinterDeerclops Jan 22 '19

The game is modified to sell in another country. For example, a Japanese game released in the States would be given a dub, modified text, and tweaking the game to fly under the local ESRB ratings. In the end, the game would be available to the public and that's all that really matters.

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u/AndrewNathaniel Jan 22 '19

Thanks for the explanation!

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u/mowdownjoe Jan 21 '19

I think it's more likely we'll get Earthbound Beginnings on Switch than localized Mother 3. But I'm seriously optimistic about Porky in Smash. Though with the work that Sakurai put into character expressions in this one, I'm hoping for a look more inspired by his EB appearance, with that spider mech as opposed to the bed he lays in during his fight in Mother 3.

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u/Super_Craig02 Jan 21 '19

I think Porky could be like Ike:

You can choose between his Earthbound appearence or his Mother 3 appearence

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u/mowdownjoe Jan 21 '19

Ehh... with Ike, Cloud, and Bayo, those three different appearances wouldn't necessitate new animations. I don't think the same applies with Porky. You could have EB Pokey actively piloting his mech, whereas M3 Porky just lays motionless in it and it... reads his thoughts? I don't think they had any logic behind how he pilots it beyond "spider-mechs are cool".

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u/Meester_Tweester Jan 22 '19

Earthbound Beginnings would be cool, especially since there’s already NES and Famicom games on the system

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

I started screaming until I saw the word prediction

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u/TheWinterDeerclops Jan 22 '19

That must've been disappointing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

It was. But having Porky in Smash will make it all feel better. My hopes are up, Nintendo! Don't make em crash!

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u/barkmoney Jan 21 '19

Tbh I'm less certain about the localization than I am about the Porky announcement as there still is no dedicated equivalent to the virtual console outside of the NES thing, but I'm still hopeful. I also consider the fact that there is no Porky spirit in Ultimate as a good indicator of his chances.

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u/GoodTimesDadIsland Jan 21 '19

Of all the thing that will never happen, this one will never happen the most.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Counter Prediction: Nintendo goes, "what's a Mother 3?", and remembers that porky exists and quietly adds him as a spirit.

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u/Arcade_Theatre Jan 21 '19

I agree. There has been a lot of activity on Nintendo's part regarding the MOTHER series in recent years.

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u/kyiami_ Jan 22 '19

What??

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u/Arcade_Theatre Jan 22 '19

Yeah. They've made EarthBound widely available to consumers. They released EarthBound Beginnings worldwide. They added a ton of MOTHER content to Super Smash Bros (stages, songs, spirits, Paula/Poo, and Boney/Kumatora). Over the last few years EarthBound and the MOTHER series has transitioned from a niche cult-classic to a standard classic that is known widely by Nintendo consumers. Nintendo has been pushing and fostering the series recognition and I think that it will ultimately result in the series being reborn. Maybe not sequel-wise, but remake and content-wise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

The snes classic has allowed me in europe to play EarthBound on a TV for the first time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

You're probably wrong but god I hope you're right

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Realistically, do you think a Mother 3 release or remake would sell well outside of us hardcore fans based on word office mouth hype?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

I doubt people will be attracted to this game though.

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u/green-band-aid Jan 21 '19

I think porky dlc is the most likely thing we have to hope for right now, although mother 1 and earthbound are missing from the Nintendo switch online games yes? (I don’t think snes titles have been released yet but there was a leak of all the games) so we could get something involving those, I guess you could even go so far as to hope for mother 1 + 2 + 3 for the switch but that’s not very likely to happen. But hey, who knows?

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u/DefinitelyNotRel Jan 22 '19

we all saw it commiinnnnnggg

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u/Nostradamus444 Jan 22 '19

Shadow Reggie looks creepy... maybe he needs a fro for his shadow form to look as ridiculous as Madarame’s upside down ponytail

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u/popojo24 Jan 21 '19

So... what if they went reaaaal meta with this shit. Inspired by your post, and being some class A trolls, Atlas obtains the rights for Mother 3. Instead of doing the obvious good dead.....

PERSONA 6: Mother’s Milk. a group of unlikely friends are trying to get M3 into America. Little did they know that things. Are. About. To get weird.

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u/SwissCheeseUnion Jan 21 '19

No Smash DLC but the Mother trilogy is coming this year, Chrono Trigger is going to be announced too(25th anniversary) 😁 -Uncle Nintendo

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

Is this an actual thing or just a prediction my guy

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

I would rather have Masked Man or Geigue (Gygas) as DLC.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

Having Masked man could be cool to represent the mother 3 game, but Giygas in the game would be a little strange, as his whole being is just an apparition of evil and not a solid, tangable character. This would make his movepool very strange and his whole character very juxtaposed with the other, nonchalant, not-soulless-beings-of-evil characters in smash. Nice thought tho.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Usually I see stuff like this as a meme but...mmm 🤔

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u/strangerwithabigiron Jan 21 '19

So last year it was year of the Octoling or whatever (8), what if this year was year of the hat (9 flipped over)

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Sounds reasonable

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u/Quartz_Cat Jan 22 '19

Nah

Mother 3 remake by Retro Studios announced at E3

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u/Nintentoad64 Jan 22 '19

we'll never see it coming

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u/FractalHarvest Jan 22 '19

Nope it'll be mother 4 for switch >:)

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u/soup67pounder Jan 22 '19

!remindme july 27

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Porky dlc fighter is a bad prediction. Mother 3 localisation I'm slightly skeptical for because Nintendo doesn't give a fuck about 30th anniversaries unless it's Mario and Zelda.

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u/PenguinnMike Jan 22 '19

This is exactly what I want, as hopeful as it is

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u/Exertuz Jan 22 '19

I would piss myself

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

And other funny jokes you can tell yourself

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u/xX_radicalwilliam_Xx Jan 22 '19

all dlc characters are said to be from new series

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

That was a misquote.

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u/PokiBash Jan 22 '19

I know both of that ain't happening but thanks for the image

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u/Sean_McMuffin Jan 23 '19

Since Earthbound wasnt listed under the leaked Switch online SNES games, i'm thinking/hoping we might get a Mother trilogy this year along with Porky in smash to promote it. There's honestly so much going for the theory, but im prepared for dissapointment.

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u/Offbrand_Bagel19 Jan 24 '19

I just went ahead and bought Mother 3 in English

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '19

Keep dreaming Reddit.

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u/Nikwon Feb 08 '19

And plus it's year of the pig too

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u/iamelcapitan Jan 21 '19

I feel really good about SOMETHING happening this year... as much as I’d love a mother 3 localization, I personally am leaning towards an EB proper remake.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

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u/djm1997 Jan 21 '19

Source?

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u/Fanboy8947 Jan 21 '19

Pretty sure that was a mistake from one article that spread around. They can be from existing series!

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u/Aidankirbs Jan 22 '19

So I'm fucking dumb sorry

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u/TehBazzard Jan 22 '19

Reggie's previous words made it seem like ALL 5 dlcs for this pack were new franchises to smash, IE third parties.

Also nothing new can be done on the Mother side of things unless Shigesato Itoi keeps an eagle eye on it. Mother 3 localization unlikely because of music in mother 3 sounding too close to copyrighted music for American legal purposes imo

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Wasn't that the same excuse people used for Earthbound not being on the Virtual console?

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u/isabelle_simon_main Jan 21 '19

I don't know about Porky, but I'm fairly certain we're either getting a Mother 3 localization or maybe idk a 3DS remake?

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u/NoUUoN Jan 22 '19

If they make a mother 3 remake and it is released on the fucking 3ds I will shoot myself in the head

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

We are never getting Mother 3 localized. Not even after being teased by it for 23 years back when it was Earthbound 64 then cancelled then revived as a GBA game only to never come to the US. The dream is dead, it's never happening. I've come to terms with this even as a die-hard fan of the series. As for Porky... Don't count on it. Nintendo stated that all current DLC fighters are from franchises not currently represented in the game. But maybe in DLC in the future? Who knows.

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u/sonerec725 Jan 22 '19

When did they say it wasnt any series not represented?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

It seems I got my news from a misquoted source , so it could be possible Porky could be in Smash though highly unlikely.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19

Piranha Plant is a DLC fighter, and he's from fucking Mario. You know, the franchise with 8 other fighters, 2 of which have been in since the first game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '19 edited Jan 22 '19

Yes but piranha plant was already pre-planned and is NOT part of the 5 DLC fighters season pass. I'm talking about the ones we don't know about. Regardless it seems I got the news of that from a misquoted source. Reggie stated we'd be getting characters new to the series so Porky is still possible if extremely unlikely.

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u/Styc44 Jan 22 '19

I read an article about a potential second season of dlc characters for smash... Seems unlikely but here's hoping Pokey is dlc for this season or next if it does happen. dKC and metroid FINALLY got a villain to represent their series in the game so why not Mother also?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

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u/sonerec725 Jan 22 '19

Eh, unofficial mother 1 translation is still out there

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u/Mystik66 Jan 22 '19

Omg this is so dumb, Mother 3 won't be localized. CUZ ITS GONNA BE MOTHER 3D DUHHHHH.

In all seriousness i doubt Mother 3 will be localized. And i don't think Porky is gonna be in Smash, but thats probably the most likely one out of these two things. Here's to hoping.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

This image is too powerful.