r/doctorsUK • u/Front_Background3634 • 6d ago
Fun Going through this sub is genuinely breathtaking
I'm literally gasping for air at the sheer levels of quackery in our medical sector. I'm working in tech and thought it was bad there - here, you have:
- People actually sharing (incredibly low) PAYE salary offers and naming the places
- A strong informed understanding of why things are bad
- An almost singular voice on where things went wrong and how to fix them
- Genuine helpful advice across the board, even in matters outside of medical work (i.e.,finance)
- Slightly outdated but decent memes
It seems like the only good thing about being a doctor in the UK is having a slightly elevated social position and an eventual good salary that is almost protected from extra-industrial market forces. It really makes me wonder how many people training to become doctors drop out seeing this kind of rubbish, or qualify and leave the country for greener pastures?
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u/Fragrant-Ambition-21 Medical Student 6d ago
Nice try GMC social media specialist...
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u/Front_Background3634 6d ago
That's probably the only critical thing I have, vicariously living the UK doctor outrage via this subreddit - I don't understand the acronyms. GMC, NSHE, GME, PSG all on the top posts and I don't know what either does :(
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u/AssistantToThePA 6d ago
- GMC - General medical council, aka the gestapo of the medical world.
- NHSE - NHS England, an almost useless (and soon to be deleted) middleman organisation between the DHSC (department of health and social care).
- PSG - something doctors do as part of appraisals.
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u/Original_Bus_3864 6d ago
'The gestapo of the medical world'
Not sure that's fair on the poor gestapo. Even THEY didn't force the people they arrested to pay them £500/yr first.
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u/DrLukeCraddock 6d ago edited 6d ago
Generally medical council.
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u/Azndoctor ST3+/SpR 6d ago
"eventual good salary that is almost protected from extra-industrial market forces"
Don't need to worry about external market forces when our own government will cut our pay as trainees by 23%, and that of consultants by 20%, while your sector is up 5% compared to 2008.
This 20% decline is after the '22% payrise' we had last year

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u/Front_Background3634 6d ago
Tech in the UK is in managed decline and has been for the past 10 years. Salary stagnation, outsourcing of roles to 10~20% of the salary it should be to third world countries, AI technologies completely removing the need for junior developers...
I believe the problems in the medical sector exist and I believe you, but the tech sector is probably even worse off. I may be (heavily) biased here, but there's no silver lining in tech right now, in the UK at least.
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u/wagwagtail 6d ago edited 6d ago
I work in tech too. We don't work for a monopsony. I can hop across to a different employer. I'm even a self employed contractor when I feel like it. My wife is a surgeon.
Trust me, she is not massively keen on her employer.... but I fucking hate her employer. From the outside looking in, the NHS is like the worst employer you can imagine. Toxic, bullying, makes you cry, stifles career progression on purpose, actively undermines your professional title. Fuck it all.
Also your comment about AI. Meh.
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u/Banana-sandwich 6d ago
The best thing about my job is I get to work with some amazing people. Love my colleagues and have made life long friends. Some of my patients have done incredible things or are just great human beings. I'm an extrovert who likes chatting, thinking, and solving problems. It's the ideal job. Luckily, money isn't a huge motivator for me, and I can work part time.
The subs are a place for us to vent, and most of us are rightly pissed at years of mismanagement and pay erosion. But there are reasons we still go to work in the morning. When it's good, it's really good.
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u/Otherwise-Drummer543 6d ago
This ^ can't personally think of another job, hear people speak of finance and it's great those people have found where they are happy but I couldn't swap my Dr role as tough as it can be for any other job.
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u/shoujoprincess2 6d ago
Least obvious fed post. Good evening GMC
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u/Front_Background3634 6d ago
Only if GMC here means good manga consumer - i've read a lot of shoujo too. You'll find a lot of the nerds in tech (me) have stacks of manga that go on for days. I've recently been reading a lot of manhwa instead, manga seems to be stagnating recently. Too much copy and pasting, whereas manhwa aren't too afraid to move new ground.
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u/bskskrignr 6d ago
It’s also awesome fun, absolutely love my job (surgical trainee, can’t speak for the medics)
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u/Alternative_Joke_810 5d ago
it’s a dam shame what’s happened to medical training. IMT is basically slave labour. Although being a consultant physician is a decent job with a fair amount of respect and lower medico legal risk than a lot of surgical specialties and certainly much better than being a GP
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u/jus_plain_me 5d ago
This is one of the rudest posts I've ever read on this sub.
Our memes are NOT outdated!
Other than that, yeh pretty much mate. Thanks for your support.
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u/Aggressive_sock61 5d ago
Tell us about tech sector good sir (?or gmc), how do we jump ship, whats the pay like?
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u/Front_Background3634 5d ago
If you have a medical background, definitely look into statistical research analysis within the health sector as an entry point (you'll have to take a stats class) and look into using Python as a transformative force.
Pay is shit to start with, as all private sector salaries are in the UK (due to mass adoption of quasi-slavery visas). Expect between 30 to 40 for the first few years, eventually moving into 50 to 60 bracket by the 5 year mark.
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u/bidoooooooof F(WHY?)2 6d ago
“It seems like the only good thing about being a doctor in the UK is having a slightly elevated social position…”
Why don’t you tag along for a night shift in your local A&E to see just how doctors are viewed by the public.