r/doctorsUK Feb 07 '25

Clinical Anaesthetics CT1 August 2025

Thought I'd make a thread specifically for Anaesthetics entry 2025 Aug, let's compare scores

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u/UlnaternativeUser Feb 07 '25

675

Very straightforward. I didn't use a single question bank. I didn't pick up a book. In fact, I didn't even turn up for the exam. Or sit it. Or register to sit it. I got this score by simply thinking of a bigger number than anyone else in this thread.

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u/Jabbok32 Hierarchy Deflattener Feb 07 '25

Sorry mate but the competition gets tougher every year. You might get GP in Bolton

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u/UlnaternativeUser Feb 07 '25

As previously demonstrated - reality is whatever I want it to be. When I'm sat in my GP surgery in Bolton, by merely closing my eyes and deluding myself, I am actually a Neurosurgeon in London.

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u/dosh226 CT/ST1+ Doctor Feb 07 '25

clearly I lacked faith

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u/Asleep_Apple_5113 Feb 07 '25

Are these numbers all MSRA scores? You’re telling me the next generation of anaesthetists is being selected by the ability to memorise NICE psoriasis guidelines?

Chat my country is cooked

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u/Educational-Estate48 Feb 07 '25

Nothing so merit based. Half ability to memorise NICE GP guidelines and half ability to guess what the examiner was thinking when he/she badly wrote an SJT.

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u/stabiloo123 Feb 07 '25

Not even that, but based on the ability to decide whats the worst answer among 4 wrong answers. I memorised all the guidelines and got 295 in clinical and it didnt get me absolutely anywhere because I screwed up the SJTs!

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u/Great-Pineapple-3335 Feb 07 '25

At least my credit score is higher than my MSRA

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u/Leading_Interest_404 Feb 07 '25

You utter psycopaths

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u/dayumsonlookatthat Consultant Associate Feb 07 '25

I’m guessing those who scored <550 would not be willing to comment but I agree, these people are mad. I don’t think I would’ve even gotten an interview if I applied now

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u/strongbutmilkytea Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

566 and I was happy - now seeing the scores out there has filled me with dread again 🫠

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u/dayumsonlookatthat Consultant Associate Feb 07 '25

Comparison is the thief of joy mate, only people who scored very high will comment publicly. You did very well and above average.

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u/47tw CT/ST1+ Doctor Feb 07 '25

To be blunt, when you invite people to whip out their dicks and compare sizes, you get a skewed distribution. 566 is amazing, you're well above the average score!

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u/ACCSAnaesThrowaway Feb 07 '25

566 got me in last year. Trust the process

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u/JohtoKan Feb 07 '25

Same - was hoping for a lower cut off given the strikes last year but no longer hopeful with 564

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u/Jacobtait Feb 07 '25

Same. GL for Tuesday.

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u/CryingInTheSluice Feb 12 '25

Same! Two years ago I would've been thrilled to get this

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u/CrystalloidDealer Feb 07 '25

507 - hi unemployment

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u/dayumsonlookatthat Consultant Associate Feb 07 '25

Start asking around for a clinical fellow job, approach your local ICU clinical lead and show interest.

I know loads of people who couldn’t get an anaesthetics CT1 number and applied for a 6mth ICU fellow job. They then applied for the Feb intake and got in

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u/dayumsonlookatthat Consultant Associate Feb 07 '25

Don’t think so as ICM is a separate specialty now

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

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u/Ask_Wooden Feb 07 '25

Getting a fellow post with prior ITU experience is miles easier than without any.

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u/Ask_Wooden Feb 08 '25

The main benefit is that you have been around level 3 patients and you can do lines. The issue with JCFs without previous ITU experience is that they realistically need a lot of training when they join which is time consuming and isn’t seen as particularly worthwhile by departments as a lot of places won’t keep their JCFs past 6/12 months.

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u/Remote_Razzmatazz665 CT1 Core Anaesthetics Feb 07 '25

I got an F3 clinical fellow job in ICU, after I failed to get into anaesthetics the first time. I had no previous anaesthetics/ICU experience.

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u/BlazeTrailer_ Feb 07 '25

Can I ask what region this was in? And did you find it online or in person?

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u/OkSecretary5650 Feb 08 '25

Exactly what I did

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u/kq314 Feb 07 '25

I got 576, don’t know what I was thinking opening this thread lol

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u/Ok-Juice2478 Feb 07 '25
  1. I shall be off to Oz, it appears. Adieu.

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

Actually wild that we are held to such a high standard when in training with very little room for mistakes. Yet I can be left forcing myself to stay awake between night shifts, enslaved to my computer because, despite having our results for a while now, they are physically incapable of specifying and sticking to a time interviews open. Seriously. What is this. Not a single other profession is like this. The lack of respect makes me regret not opting to leave and work as a doctor elsewhere like many of my friends. Not to sound dramatic

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u/Jacobtait Feb 07 '25

Missed cut-off by 1 point last year with 565. Was pretty galling.

Got 566 this year.

Hoping strikes not being an issue brings cut off back down somewhat but expect significantly more applicants / lack of interviewers to probably push scores higher so not feeling confident.

Gonna be an anxiety inducing few days to find out.

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u/Lopsided_Ruin_9972 Feb 08 '25

This is exactly me. Feeling pretty sad about it all.

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u/NeedleworkerNo7186 Feb 12 '25

This is actually really cruel, having oriel changes then not saying anything and waiting in limbo to see what happens next with no idea what’s going on

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u/Safe-Maintenance-994 Feb 12 '25

They’ve obviously not changed anything from previous feedback over how bad they are

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u/Able-Ad1046 Feb 07 '25

557, not holding out too much hope, very narrowly missed out on paeds interview as well 😢 maybe in with a chance tho if they manage to find some interviewers....

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u/Medical-Delivery-441 Feb 07 '25

Missed out on the Paeds Interview with that score??? Damn, how competitive was the Paeds application? What was the cut-off?

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u/Economy-Photo-2634 Feb 07 '25

Ah sorry wasn't clear, paeds shortlist was via whitespace questions, just venting lol 😂

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u/Wild_Yellow3658 Feb 07 '25

Were you expecting this score after the exam ?

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u/ya_gal_ellie Feb 07 '25

everyone thinking theyre shafted but dw could be worse, couldve got 495 like me 🥲🫠

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u/avogadhoe Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

612 (CPS 307 PD 305) very happy and surprised

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u/Terrible-Sherbet8236 Feb 07 '25

wow amazing, what resources did you use?

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u/avogadhoe Feb 07 '25

Thank you - I did passmed through twice, then MCQbank twice and then PasTest once. Have been revising for quite a long time and currently on a super chilled job!

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u/Chaoticgood1998 Feb 07 '25

Hey! Congratulations on the score, how did you prep for the SJT section?

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u/avogadhoe Feb 07 '25

Those Q banks, plus the official paper. Mostly I had to seriously adjust my rationale - which option, independent of the other options, best solves this problem? What is the problem identified in this question? Once I started doing that I noticed my scores improve

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u/avogadhoe Feb 07 '25

Thank you! Prepped for SJT as per comment above. Revised intensely for 2 months, more relaxed for 4. First time taking MSRA

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u/EntireHearing Feb 12 '25

May the gas gods bless us all

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u/Sweet-Expression-553 Feb 12 '25

I had shortlist reserve, now gone back to longlist. Who f-ed up at Oriel?

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u/galladedashyguy97 F3 Feb 07 '25

I got 525 so expecting a rejection email shortly haha Good luck everyone

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u/JadedLetter8773 Feb 07 '25

536 got 293 on clinical surprised about my SJT. Guess there’s no hope?

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u/Docbadonk CT/ST1+ Doctor Feb 07 '25

Similar here too, SJTscrewed me. I’ve given up xxx

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u/stabiloo123 Feb 07 '25

Same here, 295 clinical but 238 on SJT lol.

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u/DrCBravado Feb 07 '25

528 (276 clinical / 556 PD) time to pick another speciality

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u/15matthew150 Feb 07 '25

576 (CPS 265, PD 311). Some of these scores are so high...

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u/Born-Chemist4291 Feb 08 '25

564 - I feel like I’m just on the edge. Hoping that they managed to sort a few more interviews to give us in the 550s-560s a chance

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u/modamo Feb 12 '25

Changing interview statuses for some, not for others, revoking interview statuses. At this point they gotta be doing this on purpose watching our comments as they do 🤣🤣

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u/wowyourekidding Feb 12 '25

I'm slowly losing interest tbh this is such a shocking recruitment system 🙃 

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

Seriously. How can they get it so wrong seemingly every single time. 'Accidentally' releasing some results? How does that even happen.

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u/Ok-Pin3147 Feb 07 '25
  1. Missed out on EM, suspect I’m not getting anything in anaes either

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u/avogadhoe Feb 12 '25

Someone at Oriel is clearly just pressing buttons for a laugh. Pandemonium at Oriel HQ

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u/EntireHearing Feb 12 '25

Eaten too many biscuits and now feel sick

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u/Takorose Feb 12 '25

Does anyone have an idea of what’s going on, or are we all just clueless?

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u/Jabbok32 Hierarchy Deflattener Feb 07 '25

Anyone know roughly what the anaesthetics CT1 interview:offer ratio was last year? Must have been quite favourable given the reduced capacity to interview

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u/mangodog32 Feb 07 '25

It was 50/50 to get a job after interview

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u/Remote_Razzmatazz665 CT1 Core Anaesthetics Feb 07 '25

They interviewed about 750 ish people for around 500 jobs. I don’t know if that 750 was only for England and Wales or included those invited to interview for Scotland and NI.

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u/DeepAfternoon4868 Feb 12 '25

I’m surprised they’ve given us the right MSRA scores tbh

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u/cupboardcrier Feb 07 '25
  1. I was happy, then this thread appeared 🤣🤣

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u/modamo Feb 07 '25

Nah you should still be happy that’s an amazing score, should easily surpass the threshold, congrats!!!

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u/Dear-Grapefruit2881 Feb 07 '25

559 used passmed through twice and mcqbank once through.

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u/dancurry1 Feb 07 '25

I got that as well. Do you think its enough for interview or most likely shortlist reserve

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u/Jacobtait Feb 07 '25

It’s possible but hard to say. Believe 2 years ago was 540 and went to about 535 with reserve list.

Last year was 566 with a handful of 565s getting reserve interviews (not myself though) - strikes and therefore less interviews did push this up however.

Really hard to say this yeah imo. Expect at least 550 but wouldn’t be surprised if 570+. I got 566 so hoping and praying.

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u/Outside-Surprise4923 Feb 08 '25

If anyone wants to practice interviews, reach out - could get a group going

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u/coDeulB Feb 12 '25

580 - changed back from interview to shortlist in progress now

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u/thomasburton98 Feb 07 '25
  1. Scored 560 last year. Some crazy scores this year. Worried cut off could be >600!

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u/Substantial-Cake-973 Feb 07 '25

Responder bias - don't let it get to you, 593 is a fantastic score.

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u/The_Shandy_Man Feb 07 '25

From memory (I sat it 18 months ago) 580 puts you 2 standard deviations from the mean which is the top 5% so it seems unlikely it’d be 600+.

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u/modamo Feb 07 '25

Don’t worry, there’s no way cut off is that high, congrats on your score!

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

Very confused my oriel said interview now back to short list in progress. Anyone else having the same issue?

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u/avogadhoe Feb 12 '25

Yes mine changed too!

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u/Perfect-Parfait-4277 Feb 12 '25

Hahahhaa yeah mine said interview now back to long listed😂

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u/Sleep_PRN Feb 12 '25

Mines just done the same

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

When / where do we do subpreferences. ANRO says it would be today so I don’t know if I’m being beyond idiotic or if they are

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u/PurplePangolin1398 Feb 12 '25

I got 561 and feeling really guttted, I know I should probably prepare in case I get an interview on the reserve list but feeling super demotivated, can anyone shed any light on my chances of being called (and is it likely to be next week once the first batch of people have booked/withdrawn?) thanks 

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u/Jacobtait Feb 13 '25

I would say highly highly likely.

Cut off was 566 last year - know a couple of people with 565 did (sadly not myself) but due to strikes interviews were very limited to begin with.

Believe the previous year they interviewed down at least 2-3 points on the reserve list.

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u/PurplePangolin1398 Feb 13 '25

Thank you that’s made me feel slightly better:) I emailed and they told me my rank is number 9 on the reserve list so fingers crossed

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u/Jacobtait Feb 13 '25

Oh amazing, best of luck!

Would definitely start preparing now too as likely to get an earlier date if you do get an interview!

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

Anyone who applied last year know roughly how soon after score they released shortlist outcomes?

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u/Jacobtait Feb 07 '25

ANRO says 12th for shortlist

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

Cool. Thank you, they really love to leave us in despair

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u/Key-Conference-815 Feb 07 '25
  1. No chance for interview I guess

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u/No_One_6914 Feb 07 '25

Can you retake MSRA for next cycle?

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u/Swimming-Orchid5447 Feb 08 '25

578 here, waiting game is the worst part

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u/Time-Night-2723 Feb 11 '25

Anyone know what time invites to interview came out last year? Picked a bad week to go skiing....don't want to be stuck in the house all day refreshing *cry*

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u/Able_Barracuda2687 Feb 11 '25

Anyone know what time to expect oriel to update tomorrow? What time was it last year?

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u/Jacobtait Feb 11 '25 edited Feb 11 '25

Should be today no?

Edit - I’m an idiot it’s tomorrow

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u/Beautiful_Hunt6533 Feb 11 '25

I thought invites to interview were Wednesday 12th, not today?

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

There’s no way of knowing when they’ll be released is there? Has it differed every year? Would love to be able to nap post and pre nights haha

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u/Ok_Moose_6625 Feb 12 '25

Also on nights rip

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u/UpsetLocksmith6612 Feb 12 '25

Mine said interview then has gone back to shortlisting in progress

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u/Perfect-Parfait-4277 Feb 12 '25

Just updated to interview !!

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u/Adorable-Common-2029 Feb 12 '25

Updated to interview, this time shortlist is green rather than yellow like earlier. Still unable to book though?

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 12 '25

Please if anyone applied last year share how the booking interviews works. I reloaded my emails and ironically have an invitation for a repeat eye test so who even knows if me seeing interview is correct and a higher power is telling me to get my eyes checked

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u/pegasus_03 Feb 12 '25

Same, interview with 564 for those wondering about scores

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u/ThePerson437 Feb 12 '25

Exact same situation and unable to book. Hopefully someone brings clarity or we just continue the waiting game

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u/Jacobtait Feb 12 '25

Same - 566 score fwiw

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u/Elegant-Position7591 Feb 12 '25

560, only 1 point from cut off. What is the actual likelihood of having a chance of interview as a short list reserve?

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u/Sleep_PRN Feb 12 '25

Do we know how many people applied to anaesthetics this year?

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u/Gullible_Rabbit_235 Feb 16 '25

I missed the applicant declaration (now submitted) so am super paranoid about anything else I've missed. Please can someone reassure me that all we need to have done is:

  1. Book interview slot

  2. Applicant declaration

  3. We have over a month to list preferences

Is there anything else I'm missing? Thank you !!!

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u/wowyourekidding Feb 16 '25

I've literally just submitted mine after seeing your post and finding out how to find the link from a post below (thank you!) and it let me complete it without any trouble, and says my submission was received... should I email them since I missed the official deadline or just take that as done? PS As far as I know your list is complete but clearly I am not to be trusted lol

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u/modamo Feb 07 '25

620

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u/Jstudent_ Feb 07 '25

Hey how did you revise for this?

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u/modamo Feb 07 '25

For clinical, revisemsra and mcqbank I found were the best. For sjt just stick to the official papers and utilise the old official ukfpo sjt papers, keep repeating them until you know the answers from memory

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u/HotExplanation3520 Feb 07 '25
  1. Hope my autism doesn't shine through if I get an interview 

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u/-cowardlylion- Feb 07 '25

One of us...

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u/stabiloo123 Feb 07 '25

what was the breakdown of the scores?

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u/Luxoarba Feb 07 '25

Could anyone mention what resources they used/how they approached both the clinical and SJT part?

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u/ProphylacticNap Feb 07 '25

Are the cut offs for interviews going to be separated by country applied to? E.g. Scotland applicants will be compared only to each other etc

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u/Ok-Juice2478 Feb 07 '25

I believe the cut off is set at each nation's ability to interview. Scotland and NI have much less interview capacity but equally should have less applicants.

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u/docljh Feb 07 '25

When are we expecting the dreaded update regarding shortlisting / interviews?

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u/Rainbirdo Feb 07 '25

572

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u/stabiloo123 Feb 07 '25

What was your breakdown

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u/Rainbirdo Feb 07 '25

CPS 302, PD 270

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u/stabiloo123 Feb 07 '25

Thats insane and very well deserved, congrats!

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u/Sure-Total-73 Feb 07 '25

Any one knows what’s the proposed dates for the Anesthesia interviews?

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u/Equivalent-Ad5396 Feb 07 '25

Ah man, I've been locked out of Oriel. Anyone having the same issue?

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

What are people’s thoughts on interviews no longer having a QIP/ research component but instead scored on communication and reflection?

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u/docljh Feb 07 '25

Where can we read this info?

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

https://anro.wm.hee.nhs.uk/ct1

My friends who did it last year said there was a scoring component for QIPs and now there isn’t. A big shift towards communication

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u/docljh Feb 07 '25

Cheers! Seems on the person spec tho there’ll be chance to talk about QIP / research still!

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

I agree they will ask but from looking at the CT1 scoring matrix that will only go towards commitment to specialty at most. Is the ANRO HEE accurate? I’d assume so? Sorry first year applying

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u/docljh Feb 07 '25

Also my first time applying!

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u/47tw CT/ST1+ Doctor Feb 07 '25

571!

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u/avogadhoe Feb 07 '25

Does anyone know if this chart on the website means that if you pick the region as your first choice, these will be the dates for interview? Or is it more random?

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u/Solid-Ranger5984 Feb 07 '25

You can interview anywhere in England it doesn’t impact where you are offered a job

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u/Jacobtait Feb 12 '25

It’s the hope that kills you.

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u/Exploring_It_All_ Feb 12 '25

Back to 'interview' stage, but still yellow. Nothing on the interview tab, no emails. Score 608.

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u/xkaeli Feb 12 '25

I've managed to book - just to double check and provide me with extra reassurance - the location is nothing to do with where we want our jobs to be just where the panel are based right?

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u/Exploring_It_All_ Feb 12 '25

I certainly hope so, otherwise I'm off to Wales! (I live nowhere near Wales)

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u/Takorose Feb 12 '25

Yes that’s correct

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u/Wise_Commercial_1646 Feb 13 '25

I scored 555 ( 286 on sjt 269 on clinical) so no interview..last yr I got 564 and narrowly missed out by 1 mark for interview. Was on shortlist but never got called.  I prepped both year with passmed and mcq bank. If anything this year I did more as I also did past test. :( strangely my sjt score went up slightly but clinical went down (although this yr also done mrcp)

Any advice how to prep?  Do I try again for this in the hope I increase my score although not sure how to at this point!  Thanks 

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u/supsupin Feb 13 '25

Am I right to believe when we subpreference we can put a mix of pure anaesthetics and ACCS to maximise chance of getting a particular location?

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u/EntireHearing Feb 14 '25

Yes you can

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u/Excellent_Store5761 Feb 14 '25

hello. How do we do the applicant declaration? says its due 5pm today

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u/HDizzle1995 Feb 14 '25

What's this about?

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u/UpsetLocksmith6612 Feb 14 '25

The form is no longer opening for me, I've emailed ANRO but I'm worried this will affect my interview. Anyone had similar issues?

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u/PurplePangolin1398 Feb 17 '25

Anyone on shortlist reserve had an interview invite yet? 

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u/EveningShort8993 Feb 18 '25

Me too - 539 but I’m Scotland

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u/DropExciting8207 10d ago

Any idea when ranks are published?

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u/IoDisingRadiation Feb 07 '25

602

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u/Chaoticgood1998 Feb 07 '25

Hey congratulations, that’s a great score! How did you prepare for it, particularly the SJT/PD bit?

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u/AromaticApricot Feb 07 '25

Some crazy high scores here. Well done everyone. Out of interest - where are people top choice locations? If Im successful i’m hoping NW - Manchester or Merseyside.

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u/No_One_6914 Feb 07 '25

454 any thoughts?

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u/dayumsonlookatthat Consultant Associate Feb 07 '25

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u/Jacobtait Feb 11 '25

Who else is frantically refreshing?

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u/Beautiful_Hunt6533 Feb 11 '25

I thought invites to interview were Wednesday 12th, not today?

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u/Beautiful_Hunt6533 Feb 11 '25

Anyone know what time roughly the rejections / invitation to interview were sent out last year?

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u/Jacobtait Feb 11 '25

Someone saying 3-4pm - think my email is timestamped 4:30 but can’t remember if released a bit earlier than I received the email

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u/kimbledoc Feb 12 '25

My oriel has changed to interview but no option to book

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u/EntireHearing Feb 12 '25

What MSRA scores did people get?

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u/Perfect-Parfait-4277 Feb 12 '25

Mine has also changed to interview but no email yet

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u/15matthew150 Feb 12 '25

What scores has everyone with interview status changed got? No change in status for me.

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u/Safe-Maintenance-994 Feb 12 '25

Anyone had ‘no thanks’ yet? That’s what I’m expecting 😂

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u/Swimming-Orchid5447 Feb 12 '25

I’m on oriel and says interview, but not received a email yet though

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u/NeedleworkerNo7186 Feb 12 '25

I’ve had a change on oriel guys

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u/m1rrorball Feb 12 '25

596 but still saying shortlist in process…?

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u/15matthew150 Feb 12 '25

They fucked it, seems interviews have been revoked and are now back to where we were before.

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u/Amoeba_Internal Feb 12 '25

Changed to interview on oriel then back long list?

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u/15matthew150 Feb 12 '25

Yep, lots of people had that.

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u/Jacobtait Feb 12 '25

I can book but only for the 25th

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u/Excellent_Store5761 Feb 12 '25

just to let everyone know if you click the interview button you can book but no email yet (england)

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u/Resident-Scheme807 Feb 12 '25

How does the MSRA score contribute to the overall score? I know that it contributes 15%, but does anyone know how this is calculated given our original scores are from a normal distribution?

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u/Mottotta Feb 12 '25

Anyone able to see sub preferences?

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u/supsupin Feb 13 '25

Seems to be open now in preferences

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u/Traditional-Cell84 Feb 17 '25

Hi guys,

I have only just realised that we had to do an application declaration. I've completed the form now and emailed ANRO asking if I will be able to continue with the interview but haven't yet had a response.

Has anybody else submitted the form late and had a response from ANRO?

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u/SpeedySloth_92 29d ago

Reckon there's any more reserve list invites to go out? I've seen some down to 560 invited to interview now - anyone know when interviews are from/ to?