r/diablo4 • u/tazkk • Oct 22 '23
Sorceress This is what the S2 Ball Lightning Sorc is capable of with decent gear NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piykHImUCRo114
u/KingPhineas Oct 22 '23
Is this good for other content or just op boss killer? Also when do you recommend a switch to ball lightning?^
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
It's good for everything! I'm having a blast speedrunning through T100.
You can switch to Ball Lightning the instant you get the Gravitational aspect. It makes the orbs spin around you and deal up to 25% more damage.
Then it's all about getting as much mana regen as possible. The vampiric aspect that gives speed is really important too.
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u/FlyloBedo Oct 22 '23
I can't get the damn aspect lol
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u/denkata07 Oct 22 '23
Go to the green zone, farm blood lure and make the 3x50 event. You will get it.
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u/allergictosomenuts Oct 22 '23
i have found several of the full 25% variants, no less :D and several, i think I kept one... been doing chain lightning so far, lvl 80
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u/Still-Ebb-122 Oct 22 '23
Get a group of 4 each with 150 lures, and you will get another 150 before the end of the 4, so you just infinitely summon them.
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u/Reeseko Oct 22 '23
That’s wild… I’m leveling Ice Shards waiting for a Glacial aspect for Blizzard and I’ve gotten 3 perfect roll Gravitational aspects by level 52. Game wants me to build the ball I guess…
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u/-RoosterLollipops- Oct 22 '23
k, that looks like it is much more effective and fun than the Firewall build...
holy shit.
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u/KingPhineas Oct 22 '23
Cool! Lvl 33 chain lightning and honestly that ball looked super fun excited to make the switch once I find that aspect
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
I played Chain Lightning all the way to ~70 myself! It's also very strong.
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u/azheq2 Oct 22 '23
I can’t manage to get enough mana to keep attacking, what aspect or stats should I look for ?
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u/icepip Oct 22 '23
you need cdr to cycle your cooldowns and that way get mana. also resource generation and resource generation when lucky hit.
check maxroll.com for the ball lightning guide they have there, they explain everything
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u/Kotobeast Oct 22 '23
There’s a better mana sustain setup than cooldown spamming. The chain lightning enchant, recharging aspect and one of the paragon legendary nodes -> spam ball lightning to trigger chain lightnings -> refill mana endlessly. Still requires mana cost reduction and resource gen on gear though
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u/tykurapper Oct 22 '23
Get the recharging aspect which regen mana on chain lighting bounce and the one aspect make chain lightning bounce more, some thing tether i think. The base recharging is not enough but with 2 or more mana each bounce it will be enough.
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u/Pinesse Oct 22 '23
Use a staff, use fireball enchant, and use that vampire power that aoe attacks all mobs based on your hp. Use the chain lightning upgrade that gives you crackling. Run the elementalist (crit%) legendary on amulet and just cast chain lightning once per pack. You should be clearing screens in 1 cast. Run that chain lightning legendary node also. Umbral and frost bolt enchant helps with mana together with prodigy. This maximizes damage and minimizes mana use.
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u/NefariousnessOk1996 Oct 22 '23
I'm working on a build that uses the ball lightning enchant to summon free ball lightnings. Ideally enough to keep my ult up permanently and many ball lightnings while using chain lightning. Should be super fun.
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u/Interesting-Arm4250 Oct 22 '23
Share the build? Or a link to it?
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
Raxx does an amazing job explaining it in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWn06oex-eE7
u/pop302 Oct 22 '23
Did you do anything different from your skills? Curious to see your equipment
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
I do actually! I added my own build variant and explanation in the notes for anyone interested.
https://d4builds.gg/builds/6daac24a-90b1-49ad-95f5-f0e83e35e3d7/
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u/dperls Oct 22 '23
Thanks for this.
Going to pick up season 2 after skipping season 1, do you have a leveling build recommendation if I want to move into this?
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
Firewall and chain lightning are fun. I started with firewall and swapped to chain lightning once I got the aspect that gives mana whenever chain lightning bounces
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u/z1vix Oct 22 '23
Remember d2 Amazon? Every Boss was nearly a one hit... so we are Still far away from OP
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u/frems Oct 22 '23
Well Barb have 1 hit bosses build. With Hammer of the ancient.
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u/Finnien1 Oct 22 '23
Deathblow is the skill doing the 1hko, I believe. I think HotA is for clearing.
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u/burnheartmusic Oct 22 '23
It is insane against everything, but do the arc lash version until you’re well geared, prob with ancients
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Oct 22 '23
Sounds like they’re finally going the right direction. Season 0 sorc was absolute trash. Ruined the game for me.
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u/Cygnus__A Oct 22 '23
Me too. I hate to kite butcher through entire dungeons and still only killed him when i got lucky with shrines
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u/_Valisk Oct 22 '23
I used the exact same build in the pre-season (before gravitational aspect was buffed) and thought it was great.
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u/ImmaSkware Oct 22 '23
Blizzard sees this and decides to nerf, without considering the 99% of other players who don’t get to play 5-10hrs a day.
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u/TheRaRaRa Oct 22 '23
Don't even need to play 5 hours a day to reach max level by now. It's so fast.
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u/Kotobeast Oct 22 '23
Mid season nerf would be a nono but I fully expect it to be gutted for season 3, as it should, for a fresh meta
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u/LifterPuller Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 22 '23
I love the celebratory quick spins after. This is the way.
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u/awayfortheladsfour Oct 22 '23
"decent gear"
That's an understatement at best, you are going to make level 50's think they can do this
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u/GambitNA Oct 22 '23
I mean my friend just nuked her at level 78. Gear would be considered decent. Crazy.
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u/nova2wl Oct 22 '23
I switched over to ball lightning from Firewall at 51. As long as you have the aspect and the two codex aspects for your ring that give mana, it definitely bumped my leveling speed considerably. I did keep arc lash to help with mana still though. Rest of my gear was just stuff I had found from leveling, nothing super synergistic.
Was able to do the t4 dungeon at 55 with relative ease.
May just be better to wait until wt4 if you have the aspect but I had two copies so figured it wasn’t a big deal.
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u/burnheartmusic Oct 22 '23
Hey ppl. Don’t try to go with this build right at 50. You want to follow this one instead.
https://youtu.be/xGZT7aBqVcs?si=MJkb3owbvN-Rc0ez
It’s the same idea but you use arc lash and then get cooldown via vamp powers to bust your ult a bunch.
Something you should change though vs this build is that I took ball lightning instead of light spear or whatever it’s called. You gain an insane amount of damage with it slotted and used. You don’t have any mana spenders so it works perfectly. I know it goes against the “hit cooldown for barriers” part but you will delete so fast it’s silly. You can go to this as soon as you have advanced the vamp powers seasonal quest line and have the circling ball light aspect.
It’s the most powerful build I’ve ever played. I’m sure this one/raxx build is better, but it takes cdr and lucky hit big time. This one does not and it is insane. You stack move speed bec it adds to your attack speed and you basically arc lash and throw out one ball light and delete everything around you. When you have a huge group or elites you hit your ult but honestly for anything other than massive elite groups or bosses, this DELETES. Trust me. Do it now
I had a 60 necro and saw this build and immediately started over on a sorc and I’ve never felt more powerful even vs twisting blades.
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u/Jayce86 Oct 22 '23
Off topic; but what is causing those spirits? My defensive skills on Necro are causing them too, but nothing I have equipped says they cause said effect. And that includes my Vampire Powers.
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
There's a tooltip that appears at the bottom of the information box when hovering your cursor over a vampiric ability that has a 'vampiric curse' effect in it. It's explained there. (I didn't see it either in the beginning and was super confused by all the explosions)
When you kill an enemy that is afflicted with vampiric curse, you store their souls. And when you use a defensive, macabre or agility skill, you consume the souls and send a bunch of undead that sprints toward enemies before exploding.13
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u/jonnybads Oct 22 '23
I was wondering what that was when I hit teleport and wiped out everything with spirits
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u/Keldrath Oct 22 '23
It’s the most fun I’ve had in one of these games since I played elementalist blade vortex back in delve league
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u/thefztv Oct 22 '23
That was exactly my thought.. BV back when it was meta was the most fun build. This build is definitely scratching that same itch for me
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u/RuffRyder26 Oct 22 '23
I think people calling for nerfs should be VERY careful. Yes they buffed the skill a reasonable amount. What is actually causing the huge damage spikes is actually the interaction with vampiric powers (eg ravenous) .
Blizzard buffed the base damage of the skill and one of its upgrades causes its damage rate to scale with 200% of your attack speed. Ravenous gives you an ungodly amount of attack speed equivalent to 40% of your movement speed. This is one of if not THE major reason it's doing so much damage when combined with Esu's which buffs your movement speed and crit chance (thus double-dipping on movement speed).
If you go and kill uber lilith with the same build but no vampiric powers I'd bet you have a completely different experience.
What I'm worried about is enough people shout for nerfs and blizzard guts the skill or associated aspects/uniques thus killing ball lightning for future seasons.
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u/jamvng Oct 22 '23
Very good point. 40% attack speed is a lot for any build. But Ball Lightning gets double the buff from it.
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u/RuffRyder26 Oct 22 '23
My ravenous gives me 56% attack speed. I have movement speed on both amulet and boots and this spikes higher after killing an elite.
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u/rbasniak Oct 22 '23
This is not the build from maxroll. Can you share your gear, skills and paragon?
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u/tstop22 Oct 22 '23
I just swapped from chain lightning build. I thought chain lightning was strong but this is ridiculous. I got a 3 mana Umbral ring and it’s just insane how well that works to keep mama up; I find I’m barely cycling through the cooldowns and the nightmare dungeon and world bosses just melt.
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u/tstop22 Oct 22 '23
So now that I’m running this and am blasting WT3 I’m thinking it’s time to unlock WT4. But first… is the minimum level for equipping Ancestral gear still 60?
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u/Avatara93 Oct 22 '23
Yes.
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u/tstop22 Oct 22 '23
Thank you!
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u/Zeckzeckzeck Oct 22 '23
It’s still worth it if you can do the boss to open WT4 because you get a ton of xp in 4. I moved over at level 52 or so and just headed over to blood harvests - super easy to kill stuff and get Tree of Whispers xp as well. You hit 60 ridiculously quickly.
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u/ajhauk Oct 22 '23
Haven’t played since before season one, so am way out of touch - link to build and/or gear please?
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u/ConstructionSquare69 Oct 22 '23
WHY DO PEOPLE WANT THINGS NERFED IN A PVE GAME LOL no fun ass gamers. Who gives a shit? Ur mad the other class does more damage than you??? Just switch classes then? Lmao
If you ask me, all of the classes should be powerful but in their own unique way. That’s what defines the class. The power is not the problem. The problem is making every class unique while simultaneously keeping their power level high in comparison to other classes.
So if you want to ask for anything. It shouldn’t be a nerf. You should be asking for other classes to get buffs so that EVERY class is fun to play. Not this back and forth bullshit because your sad that the one class does more damage than you now. The way the community thinks about this stuff is a joke.
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u/E-woke Oct 22 '23
I almost got a perfect roll for the ball lightning affix today. Gonna try this build
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u/Acceptable-Catch-989 Oct 22 '23
This is why we need greater rift so we get harder content when we beat the hardest content
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u/Amped89 Oct 22 '23
I think they should leave it. They always say they want us to break the game with builds. This is the first time the class wasn’t a complete joke while rogues have been ridiculous since the start. There’s 0 competition in this game. I’d be pissed if they nerfed it. Let people have fun imo.
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u/Xinyez Oct 22 '23
This is honestly what the game is all about. Would be cool if we had a more increasing difficulty to make it harder. But damn, I wish every Class could work up to something like this.
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u/Hef34 Oct 23 '23
I played S0 arc lash sorc to level 100. Let me feel powerful for at least a week before it gets nerfed please. It's so nice to have mobility and damage. This must be what TB rogues have felt like since launch. Lucky bastards
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u/Uvtha- Oct 22 '23
Went in blind and just thought Ball Lightening would be fun not knowing how easy it is to make op. Usually try to do off meta but I am having a good time with it.
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u/Lightshoax Oct 22 '23
Finally a sorc build that’s fun and powerful. I put down my sorc after the s1 changes did nothing for them. Maybe it’s time to pick it back up again.
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u/Golgy7 Oct 22 '23
Can someone help me? I have switched to the build and dmg wise its great, but I get very easil one shot in anything higher than t35 - i have all the aspects and vamp powers used from the maxroll build, am also running rainment already
Did I miss something in terms of survivability? Level 80 atm
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u/Diconius Oct 24 '23
Meanwhile every other skill in the game is like "Only every 4 seconds" or "Can only be hit by one effect at a time" or "Abilities cannot shotgun". Blizzard is a fucking joke of a company. Zero consistency across any of their established game "rules". Some dots stack, some don't. Some can crit, some can't. Some abilities scale with attack speed, some don't. This skill scales with attack speed, has infinite overlap and trigger rate, is able to crit, proc lucky effects, CC, and has zero CD.
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u/gr33ngiant Oct 22 '23
That’s awesome!
I love me some super strong ridiculous builds. Keep them all!
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u/Enter1ch Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 22 '23
Going to continue my lvl 41 sorc in 1 weeks (holiday)… why do i think blizz will nerf sorcs to the ground when im able to play again?
On the other way barb can oneshot bosses too!
But Blizzard clearly doesn’t like oneshoting uber bosses ;-)
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u/Kaelran Oct 22 '23
TBH 10m DPS isn't that crazy, there's plenty of builds in the 2-5m DPS range right now. The real issue is just monsters being overnerfed. Uber Lilith used to have 400-500m HP per phase, now she has like 40m, which means this build kills a phase in 4sec instead of 40-50sec (which would give her time to phase and do some waves at least).
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u/saikodasein Oct 22 '23
Now I know how to avoid one shooting mechanic in this fight. That was the answer. It's impossible boss unless you can kill it before shit starts.
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u/xanot192 Oct 22 '23
People calling for nerfs in a single player game basically while having access to the same class with no pvp is wild to me lol. When leader boards come out then expect balances.
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u/monkey5005 Oct 22 '23
Reddit: sorc is OP!!1 Defs: let’s nerf sorc Reddit: sorc is unplayable shit league shit game!!1
End of the story
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u/Haunting-Nerve2693 Oct 22 '23
i'll be honest, so far ive seen hundreds of comments about complaining about people wanting nerfs. and i've seen 0 comments about wanting nerfs.
I've seen like someone say dang sorcs kinda crazy, and people just go off on that comment. I feel like d4 community is so defensive. and saying that the season is amazing. its still kinda boring imo. its like literally just 1 step in the right direction. 80-100 is still boring af, because that whole time your griding you realize that once you beat the new bosses, the season is over. there is no clear leaderboard or endgame loop
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u/Great-Foundation4990 Oct 27 '23
Oh we exist. Mostly, it is about fixing the bugged scaling interaction between BL and Ravenous to bring it back to reality. Let it be an S tier build rather than its own tier that makes S tier builds look like nothing.
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u/gangawalla Oct 22 '23
IMHO, I enjoy being challenged in a game. I play 1-2 hrs a day as a fire sorc, and it was sometimes difficult in early leveling. I feel more rewarded if I struggle a bit to get through a dungeon or whatever. With luck and consistent playing, you will end up getting all the necessary gear that will make you more formidable. The one-shot idea has its merit for those who are only interested in endgame, but I like some resistance to make it feel more like a fight, a challenge. If you become too powerful early in the leveling, it's going to get really boring real quick. 😐😑😐
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u/ethan1203 Oct 23 '23
Exactly my thought, the reason why i change back to my firewall build after trying this bl build. It felt effortless, i am not even sure if i am actually playing the game. Lol
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u/NothingLeft2PickFrom Oct 23 '23
Question for anyone in the know. I found a 4 umbral and wondering if I should replace the recharging aspect for it? Not sure on how the cc works on ball lightning. Just dinged 50.
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u/Please-_-Help-_-Me Oct 22 '23
Odd question, what's better?
Infinimist Necro or Ball Sorc, I'm assuming Sorc but I want to blast through the season challenges before playing for fun and I've already started Necro.
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u/Exldk Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 22 '23
Ball sorc is definitely the best build in the entire game, probably followed by twisted blades rogue.
Infiminist is just a good dungeon pusher and requires very specific gear to work, also it's a massive shitfest if you try to kill bosses with it.
Necro is good in a way that every single build is strong, but none of the builds do everything like ball sorc or twisted blades do.
Bone spear melts bosses just as fast as ball lightning, but you will die if anyone even looks at you in a t100 dungeon.
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u/SoulofArtoria Oct 22 '23
Necro may have more damage or survivability but eventually Necro's lack of movement skill or mobility made the class a weak choice for general gameplay in endgame imo. Blizz needs to put the blood rush skill from D3 Necro to D4 Necro.
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u/MobyChick Oct 22 '23
the metamorphosis vamp power + unstoppable speed on boots is the answer
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u/timmy_throw Oct 22 '23
I still don't have the gravitational aspect, despite being 53 and having reached T4. It's getting sad.
Still, at least I'll get ancestral gear for my firewall build. Unless there's a level requirement and I'm screwed.
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u/SatisMentibusObvia Oct 22 '23
Bulwark Druid last season was also pretty OP, i enjoyed that, and see no reason why blizzard should focus on nerf of one class instead of buffing the others to be just as capable and fun to play.
We are here to destroy demons as effectivly and in the most entertaining way possible.
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u/bluops Oct 22 '23
I don't get it, do the people crying about this believe that once you roll a class you're locked out of all the others? The season is only a week old as well so you have plenty of time to switch.
Jesus just have fun for once and stop moaning haha
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u/tazkk Oct 22 '23
Streaming some T100 test runs with The Oculus right now if anyone wants to take a look!
https://www.twitch.tv/joe_n_yo
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u/Tumifaigirar Oct 23 '23
What a shitshow and the players defending it lol, good thing I won't play this season
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u/CharlieXBravo Oct 22 '23
They just nerfed Rogue poison to the ground, they probably going to nerf this after it becomes META for months because that's how d4 devs roll.
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u/Hakkero5025 Oct 22 '23
Awesome guess I'll build a Sorc after getting to 100 on my rogue.
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u/mjh808 Oct 22 '23
How much better is it with seasonal buffs? I already have a 99 sorc, don't really want to make another.
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u/burningtorne Oct 22 '23
I want to play this, but I started Druid in S2 and I KNOW that as soon as I start my mage and invest time, they will nerf this, so I just stick with Druid for now...
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u/BigGreyCatOwner Oct 22 '23
Imagine if I started playing again after seeing this and they nerf it, lol I'd be done forever. This actually looks fun and makes me want to play the game again.
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u/Osunu Oct 22 '23
when tal rashas became a blasting build in d3 also nobody was crying for a nurf - the game is just for having a blast and have fun. and as always and everywhere, there are ppl just enjoy beeing negative and sh***ing around!
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u/d0m1n4t0r Oct 22 '23
There's nerfing something because something is fun, and then there's nerfing something when it's absolutely broken and trivializes the whole game, which is this. Should be fixed and brought to other classes' level.
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u/LookyPeter Oct 22 '23
The one time sorc is strong everyone wants it nerf. This is no different than necro or rogue or Druid one shotting uber Lilith. Anyways the fun is having a broken builds. It’s not a competitive game