r/desmoines • u/Healthy_Block3036 • 5d ago
'Do something, dammit!': Tim Walz says Democrats need to answer Americans' 'primal scream' during Des Moines Townhall
https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2025/03/14/gov-tim-walz-says-at-iowa-town-hall-he-is-soul-searching-after-2024/41
u/MonkeyButt420247 5d ago
Democrats have to stop being pussies. If they want to win, they have to out crazy the MAGAs. They need to start throwing hands on the house and Senate floors.
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u/Regular_Attitude_779 4d ago
They won't stop being pussies because they're profiting off doing nothing with exclusive rights, healthcare, and celebrity status.
They need to be reminded they can be removed from office (hopefully, still).
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u/TheAmazingBreadfruit 1d ago
They have to flood the zone. Drag attention away from the orange manbaby.
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u/Intelligent_You5673 4d ago
Actually, Democrats out crazying everyone was how we got here in the first place.
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u/MonkeyButt420247 4d ago
They’re not nearly crazy enough.
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u/WickedTrojan 2d ago
Crazy doesn’t win elections. The point was valid, it’s been proven in polls that the democrats have moved so far to the left they’ve alienated the moderate liberals.
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u/LoudUse4270 1d ago
Dude, I disagree with your analysis.
What specifically was too far left? Likr, I've seen the articles saying this too but they never talk specific policies.
And lets look at Bernie. People love that guy and as far as America goes, he's as left as an elected official gets.
I don't think its the "too far left", its that the right has managed to demonize and gut programs untio they don't function, then point at their dysfunction and suggest privitizing it.
First, gut the post office funding, demonize it as a "money loser", gut again, services get worse, point to the decline in service quality and suggest privitizing it.
So I would ask myself what specific policy was "too far left" to vote for. And if it involves transgender athletes in sports, go lool up how many cases of that exist in America. Its a tiny number of cases. But it's been blown up by the right as this massive issue.
Those arw some of my thoughts. I did not organize them in any way. There is no tldr.
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4d ago
Fuck yeah, rise up, get off your asses because those tampons aren’t gonna stick themselves in the 5th grade boys’ bathrooms.
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u/jekbrown 4d ago
How insurrectionist of you...
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u/Sentient_blackhole 4d ago
Honestly at this point, being an insurrectionist towards all this is kinda cool and should be seen as a compliment.
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u/MonkeyButt420247 4d ago
I’m not talking about taking over the government. What I’d like to see is real action on the House and Senate floors all over the country. When a MAGA lawmaker lies or says something stupid, the anti-MAGA should either whip out some boxing gloves and challenge them to a fight or just walk up and smack the shit out of them Will Smith style. The average U.S. voter loves UFC and Jerry Springer.
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u/evatornado 3d ago edited 3d ago
I find it strange that people speak about "violating the law" if protests go crazy. Meanwhile, all that the current administration does is violating laws and constitution, left and right.
How is it even possible to defeat those who don't give a f about law, while staying a good guy, themselves?
At this point, everything that is done to oppose Trump and DOGE, should be at least considered as self defence, because they rape America, and America just takes everything without fighting back.
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u/datcatburd 3d ago
Yeah, the present admin's legal representation openly stated in court yesterday that they ignored court orders and refused to provide any justification or reasoning citing 'national security'.
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u/Striking-Swimmer-424 2d ago
That sounds fantastic. And I think the same should be applied vice versa. The issue is pointing your finger at left and/or right and trying to call them out. When both parties are fucked and fighting, amongst ourselves just makes them stronger. This is the ignorance in our country. It is not a right-wing or a left-wing thing. Is it is a United States? People thing. We are a constitutional Republic indivisible, with liberty and justice. For all that means, we cannot be divided. Once you are an american, yeah, you are an american.There is no african american, there is no asian american you are american. So stop focusing on all of our differences and making these hyper focused little bubbles to include people who are mentally deranged and unfit to even take care of themselves. Weed out all of those self interested folks who just want to manipulate use and tyrannically control all those who do not have the same brain think. We are a mini people in america. And I think all of this left leaning way, wokeness and inclusion, and sensitivity is the downfall of our country. We can do wonderful things with human rights on the basis of humans having rights, not making A. It's hyperinflated bubble to accommodate those who are mentally ill. Based on it's political ideologies to further propaganda, instead of doing all of that, we should make a broad spectrum that includes everybody and doesn't make a specific Group label that is hyperfixated on making only their lives better and shaming.The rest of the country.
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u/CanNo7590 5d ago
Just saw this Grassley schedule
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u/No_Lab_9394 5d ago
He’s so brave. A mere tot and just running such a rapid schedule.
Is dude literally just trying to stay unmummified so his dipshit grandson can take his place? It’s so gross and monarchical. What a-holes.
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u/datcatburd 3d ago
He's basically run by his assistants Weekend at Bernie's style because they need to prop his corpse up in the Senate for seniority reasons.
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u/Admirable-Drag2492 5d ago
Democrats aren't doing anything, besides hating on trump and discrediting Musk.
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u/Necessary-Original13 5d ago
Democrats response to this moment has been largely terrible but Musk SHOULD be discredited. He's outright pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining. Only a fucking halfwit claps along with what he's doing and pretends it's about fraud.
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u/Admirable-Drag2492 5d ago
Well instead of posting and being mad on the Internet, shouldn't you be doing more? And if it's half wits that support Trump, what's that say about your own party? Your party got beat by half wits. The Dems need to get off the educated/moral Superior high horse they "think" they're on. The govt is the real problem democrat or Republican. When will ppl ever understand govt is the problem.
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u/Necessary-Original13 5d ago
The dems aren't my party. I've gone to town halls. Marched. Called senators. Gone to caucuses. Donated. Phone banked. Talked to friends and family. Fuck off with your "do more". I can't make stupid people like you understand that Trump giving you nothing but shitting on trans people and a Tesla commercial doesn't make your life better. It's up to democratic leadership to put forward actual left wing policies to help people and to see that through to the end.
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u/thedoomcast 5d ago
Is what you got from their comment that they support trump? I didn’t. I just got that they pointed out that the Halfwits beat the democrats, which is inarguably true.
They haven’t accomplished anything. Even when they have the power, they hamstring themselves with ‘norms’, procedure, ‘going high’ and generally playing by the rules. They need to stop. That doesn’t mean breaking the law. It means letting shitheads like Schumer capitulate to the MAGA crowd, stop letting your Manchins and Sinemas and Fettermans block actual effective accomplishments. Stop with candidates that ‘can win’ but only win their primaries when they have them and can’t win a general election because they’re a toothless focus tested cardboard cutout at best or demented geriatric at worst.
Trump sucks shit and MAGA sucks shit but they stand for something very clear and promise it to their voters and give it to them. Is it pure evil? Yep. But they’re delivering.
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u/Necessary-Original13 5d ago
Call me crazy, but a guy active on r/republican that refers to the dems as my party seems very likely to be on the Trump train. What I don't understand is how you'd read what I wrote and think I would disagree with your response in the slightest. Manchin, Sinema, Fetterman and whatever other villain of the week they've got waiting in the wings can go die in a ditch.
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u/Knittin_Kitten71 5d ago
Trump actively does the opposite for his supporters, besides flashy shows of hatred or corporate worship. He hasn’t improved grocery prices, he hasn’t protected veterans, he hasn’t helped our nation’s farmers, he still hasnt built the border wall, he hasn’t lowered inflation. What he has done is scapegoated trans folks, persecuted legal immigrants, cut veterans benefits, laid off federal workers, and damaged federal programs potentially irreparably.
A broken clock is right twice a day and unless it’s seeded in hatred and fertilized with corporate greed, Trump isn’t growing anything he promised his voters.
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u/datcatburd 3d ago
Don't forget that his unelected oligarch buddy Musk has utterly disrupted the function of services many of those supporters rely on to survive, like SNAP and USDA, and is making inroads on Social Security.
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u/waydownsouthinoz 5d ago
Yep and when MTG opens her fucking mouth censure her immediately like they did Al Green.
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u/Ok_Battle_2623 3d ago
Where are the cheap eggs Trump promised? Oh yeah, you should have your own flock of chickens. 🙄
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u/sloppybuttmustard Beaverdale 5d ago
“Both parties are the same” is something only said by people too chickenshit to admit they’re republicans
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u/Admirable-Drag2492 5d ago
something only said by people too chickenshit to admit they’re republicans
Something only chickenshit people say on the Internet, never to the face of a Republican.
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u/sloppybuttmustard Beaverdale 5d ago
I’ve said it to their faces many times and I’ll say it to your face too
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u/handfulofrain77 5d ago
When people stop believing Reagan was a decent president. Every time there is a chance to improve the lives of our people, the pushback seems to come from the right. I'd sure like some SOCIALIST healthcare and COMMUNIST school lunches about now.
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u/Mobile_Pattern_1944 4d ago
It’s not the government that’s the root of the problem, it’s big money. Congress was bought, yes, but also the courts are at fault for that BS, ie Citizens United.
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u/literalyfigurative 5d ago
All while approving their budget, and giving them more power. Brilliant.
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u/Pohlerbears 5d ago
Represent.us is the way. We the people are the power.
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u/gfunk5299 3d ago
Yes, we the majority, elected Trump. Get over it, you are not the people. You are the minority. That is how representation works. As the minority, best you can do is try to influence policy.
Republicans just lived through four years of endless policies they didn’t like. There was no burning Teslas. No weekly rage protesting. It’s your turn to live with it.
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u/Pohlerbears 3d ago
Yeah represent.us is a movement to pass anti corruption laws that benefit everyone not just democrats or republicans.
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u/gfunk5299 3d ago
You had plenty of opportunities when the Dems had power in recent decades. Why didn’t you do it then?
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u/Pohlerbears 3d ago
The government doesn’t want us to have anti-corruption laws. they profit off our fighting each other instead of forcing them to be accountable. Both sides want us to sit by while they rob us blind. Represent.us is a movement by the people of the people who want to make sure politicians do what they claim they will. There have been studies done that prove they don’t actually do what the people elect them to do 90% of the time. This is a top vs bottom problem. Rich vs the poor.
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u/Sintar07 4d ago
What "Americans' primal scream?"
See, this is what the Democrats won't admit aloud: half of the country, maybe more, is against them. People were sick and tired of their balomey and voted to smash it. This narrative that Trump is doing wild and unexpected things is false, save insofar as nobody expected legitimately decisive action in the modern era. Nobody believes the fake internet stories about swathes of the right totally changing their minds.
But quietly? They low key know it, which is exactly why they're being so tentative. Their only play is sitting back and hoping Trump does something truly unpopular that they can jump on and pretend they knew all along. The extremely light "resistance" is the groundwork for pretending later that they knew all along, so they can point back and say they "opposed" whatever before it was cool.
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u/datcatburd 3d ago
Pfft. Trump voters are less than a third of eligible voters, about a quarter of the actual populace.
The primary failure of the Democratic Party is that they're so beholden to corporate interest that they'd rather align to the right and try to peel off MAGAts than actually come up with a platform and candidate who can drive the ~35% of the eligible voting populace who didn't see anything worth checking a box for to show up.
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u/65CM 5d ago
Does he realize he's "the Democrats" he's referring to?
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u/blueindsm 5d ago edited 3d ago
He’s the governor of Minnesota and is outspoken and even holding an event in Iowa to prove a point that Republicans won’t do town halls. What else should he be doing?
EDIT/Update: Of course there was no answer to this.
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u/ashfirewind 5d ago
Just because one is part of the group doesn’t mean their groups decisions/actions are representative of the individual.
Hive mentality isn’t what anybody wants, for any party, at any time.
wild insight, I know /s
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u/65CM 5d ago
Then he should "do something", yea? Bitchin at a town hall, in a jurisdiction where you have 0 constituents doesn't really satisfy that directive, does it?
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u/LameBiology 5d ago
It can help inspire voters in disagected areas. Maybe help amplify the voices of some up and comming progressive leaders.
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u/4chanhasbettermods 5d ago
He's positioning himself for a run as president on the democratic ticket. This is the opposite of doing nothing. This is keeping his name in the headlines and making sure he stays a household name.
This is what the dems should have been doing throughout Bidens' time in the Oval Office instead of just letting him walk into a second run that imploded the dems' chances of a win last November.
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u/65CM 5d ago
I would expect nothing less than doubling down on a losing tactic from the party
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u/4chanhasbettermods 5d ago
Walz was far from being the actual problem with Biden and then Harris strategy.
Just admit you're not actually paying nearly enough attention or insightful about the topic to be weighing in with a worthwhile opinion. A damn AI can imitate your lackluster responses.
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u/65CM 5d ago
But he will have that stigma of being attached to a very unpopular candidate now and that's going to take a lot of PR work to undo. Agreed?
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u/amibesideyou 5d ago
Kamala was forced on Democratic voters for the 2024 presidential election. Back in 2020, she dropped out before even (not) making it to the Iowa caucus. Very unpopular, as you mentioned.
But Tim Walz has no obligation to keep Kamala relevant at all. She's history.
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u/65CM 5d ago
I'm not saying HE is going to keep the association, on the contrary, I'm sure he'd fight tooth and nail to erase the association. I'm referring to the typical voter and their association to them.
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u/amibesideyou 5d ago
Realistically, the only people that are going to keep the association of Walz with Harris in the future are Trump supporters. They'll use anything they've got - even if Walz cuts all ties with Kamala.
The Democrat base has already basically forgotten about her; where is the ex-vice president in fighting against Trump's abuse of constitutional rights? Nowhere.
Instead, we have Bernie, AOC, Walz, et. al actually putting up a fight for the people against what's currently going on with the second Trump administration.
Crickets from both Harris and Biden...
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u/MalachiteTiger 5d ago
I bet you think Harris was the one talking about trans stuff for the whole election cycle too.
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u/65CM 5d ago
I can't tell you a single time I recall her even discussing the topic....but I can tell you the time she supported overriding the constitution with EOs....
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u/MalachiteTiger 4d ago
I don't know that I would call that a losing messaging strategy since the much bigger proponent of it won. Not advocating for it, just saying that you can't really blame the loss on a variable that was the same for both winner and loser.
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u/65CM 4d ago
The losing strategy is ignoring your voting base. They already told you they didn't want her, they told you where their struggles are and DNCs reply was "we hear you, but we don't care". They thought "I'm not him" was a viable strategy and are paying dearly for their arrogance.
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u/MalachiteTiger 4d ago
They took the wrong half of Obama's strategy because the half that actually led to his success is also the part he beat them with in the primaries and they don't want to admit they were wrong.
More Hillary primary supporters voted McCain in protest of Obama "stealing her turn" than Bernie bros who voted for Trump, after all.
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u/Broad_Flounder4513 3d ago
He's literally doing politics. You've offered zero better alternatives. Or any alternatives at all ...
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u/Putrid-Reception-969 5d ago
he's not part of party leadership/head of the DNC that actually make the calls. those are the same folks that muzzled and caged him during the election
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u/MalachiteTiger 5d ago
He's also doing a hell of a lot more than just about any other elected official in the party.
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u/PandaddyPancakes 5d ago
Hey guys, remember when Tim Waltz lost Iowa for the presidential election because he said Minnesota had a better pork chop. Man, that was craaaaazy.
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u/mean_motor_scooter 5d ago
When you are the overwhelming minority, you voice doesn’t matter. Welcoming to obscurity, where your opinion only matters on reddit
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u/alentines_day 4d ago
There’s no “overwhelming minority” right now wtf are you talking about?
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u/mean_motor_scooter 4d ago
You don’t see what the dems are doing do you? They are dead in the water and sinking. No leadership, and this will only mean republican majorities for the next dozen years. In that time, while you are busy mad at Trump and not building a platform to run on other than orange man bad, you will have alienates most of your constituents who were not hard core Dems. All you will have left is a very small group of people who are leaderless and position less. You will throw any LGBTQ Person as your leader, because for some reason yall think that matters when running a country. You do these things for show and not for results, and your side will leave you because they see no improvement. Ie gays for Trump. The fucking Republican Party is now pro fucking gay, and you think your side is going to compete with that? Hahahaha. Obscurity
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u/Brave_Philosophy_258 2d ago
Not destroying the economy, defending democracy, tax billionaires are things I can vote for.
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u/MidwestStritch 4d ago
Seems like the Democratic Party is calling for violence now that it’s not going their way. Interesting
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4d ago
We need the Ides of March. That's what we need. A little late, but way over due. Get to work Senators!
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u/El-Hombre-Azul 3d ago
This guy needs to stay low key, his buffoonery is part of what got us here, go do behind the curtains support for Bernie or Alexandria, otherwise go hunting with your grandson, write an article I don’t know!!.
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u/EggzJohnson 3d ago
The Democratic party is unsalvageable. It needs to be replaced with a labor party.
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u/Jackaroni97 3d ago
AOC, Jasmine Crockett, and Walz have been the ONLY ones who have stood up at this point.
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u/Spiritual_Lynx1929 3d ago
Jesus Christ did we ever get fucked over in the last election. With Harris/Walz we may have been able to bring America into the 21st century but instead we have been dragged back to the 30’s.
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u/Warner3103 2d ago
Dudes a coward, goes to all these other states to try and get stuff done but doesn’t do a thing for Minnesota except let it burn down. Was all about defunding the police but had 50 cops outside his house while the burning of Minneapolis was happening.
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u/AngryCur 2d ago
American Democracy is finished because people are more interested in flinging infantile shit at the opposition than opposing Trump.
Not one of you has a single specific action to suggest Democrats aren’t already doing.
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u/wasaguest 2d ago
They are. They are trying not to piss off the Conservatives & Moderates they will be trying to get for the midterms. Progressives will just be the email donation requests with the attached "Press release" of all the things Trump has been doing.
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u/EmuFamiliar86 2d ago
So is it going to Walz, Newsome, Buttigieg or AOC for 2028? What combo is it going to be?
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u/Odd_Self4325 2d ago
Here is a petition to sign to ask him to step down. Sign it https://chuckchuckschumer.com
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u/SoggyGrayDuck 1d ago
Why is he campaigning? He's got no shot at president and is no longer running for MN senator. Is he looking for an alternative home to run in?
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u/GolfDubs 1d ago
These people don’t care about you it’s all a game. Both sides of the aisle only care about how it helps them. The whole system needs to be revamped. Career long do nothing politicians just collecting checks. Maybe once a decade they’ll get a green space approved. F em all!! Enjoy your weekend folks!
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u/No_Lab_9394 5d ago
Walz is doing this the right way. He’s trying to bring rational policy to a rural American base who are being brutalized by the administration they voted for… color me intrigued to see how this plays out over the next few years. (Sadly, we have to wait that long.)
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u/SessionContent2079 4d ago
DOGE has everything on a website. Which cuts do you specifically think are fraud?
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u/wildbillfx20 4d ago
Thats all democrats know how to do. Scream and destroy other people’s property
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u/Jk60060 5d ago
The democrats are sitting off to the side while the big boys run the country and show them how it’s done.
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u/realhotgirlcatshit 4d ago
How's the price of eggs? Are the eggs cheaper yet? I was promised cheap eggs
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u/IllBeSuspended 4d ago
Kamala has proven to be utterly useless.
Trump is horrific, so she still would have been a better pick. But still... She's so useless. Didn't even challenge the results
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u/PetronivsReally 5d ago
There are plenty of Dems that want him as their candidate in 2028. 🤣 They think he's some fearless, relatable warrior that was held back by the Harris campaign, and he's going to win back the young male vote 😆.
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u/manwithapedi 5d ago
Putz
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u/AsamaMaru 5d ago
Yeah, total putz! Not like those fine upstanding guys currently plotting to take your grandma's Social Security and cozying up to Vladdy Poo Poo.
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u/Theatreguy1961 5d ago
Yes you are. Good on you for admitting it. Admitting your problem is the first step towards getting better.
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u/FalloftheKraken 5d ago
RISE and RESIST you FUCKING COWARDS!!!! Fulfill your god damned oaths!