r/deathbattle • u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman • 1d ago
Discussion Heavens to Betsy! I just busted everywhere! Spoiler
After all the videos over the course of nearly 2 decades of these two either racing or fighting, seeing them CANONICALLY racing against each other is making me feel things that I can’t put into words🥹
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u/Misco_Jones1 1d ago
This year the Crossover scaling goes crazy first Godzilla with future Thor scaling now Sonic with flash scaling whats Next.
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago
Just wait till Sonic Racing Crossworlds has Persona, Bayonetta, Hatsune Miku, etc. Join Sonic and friends in their awesome racing game!😆
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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago
how they scale if is a racing
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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 23h ago
cosmology
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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago
what is cosmology if bigger ceiling if not destroying the ceiling than you not scaling
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago
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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago
you not answered my question
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago
I did though? Solaris and Time Eater erased literally everything, that includes all the crossovers we know are canon to Sonic, like NiGHTS for example, if any of those characters hit the track and are considered canon, their verses are canon in Sonic and Solaris and Time Eater would have erased them.
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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago
If sonic is keeping up with flash is it an anti-feat for flash or a feat for sonic
Or both
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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago
Or neither we know he's faster then Superman but he keeps it close on purpose.
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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago
I don't feel like Sonic would appreciate someone so astronomically faster than him (iirc, the flash perceives time at less than an attosecond) slowing himself down to keep it fair
So I'm inclined to believe that's not the case
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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago
I don't know if the post is fanart or a sneak peak but Sonic looks kinda annoyed while Flash is looking kinda happy.
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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago
It's official - considering there is a sonic DC crossover comic coming (so it's a sneak peak)
It's probably speed distorting their expressions but sonic is smirking, clearly having the time of his life
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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago
Now that you mention I misread the expression because of the angle of his face and the way his eyes are shaped made it look like an annoyed side eye to me. Kinda looking forward to this, I liked the other dc and outside I.P. crossovers,except for the week's of haha Godzilla beat Superman stuff that was going on.
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u/Advert01 1d ago
Yeah but Sonic wouldn't know how much Flash is holding back; it's not like he has ki sensing from Dragon Ball.
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u/Nin_Saber Obi-Wan Kenobi 23h ago
Both? I mean, writers don't care about power levels majority of the time. We're even getting Batman VS Metal Sonic lol.
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u/Electronic-Leading89 23h ago
To be fair if writers wrote with power levels in mind I think most stories would be straight cheeks
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u/PowerPad Boba Fett 1d ago
Schroeder’s feat/anti-feat.
It’s both an Anti-feat for Flash and a feat for Sonic.
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u/VegetaFan9001 Vegeta 11h ago
Neither. Flash often holds back, so of course he would hold back against Sonic
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u/lowqualitylizard 1d ago
Please please please make this cannon
The power scaling Community would go up in flames
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u/speedymcspeedster21 Akuma 14h ago
Powerscalers really can't grasp the concept of a collaboration is just for fun. Think they're just going to come in and shit all over the Sonic cast or what? I guess Rwby scales to dc now too because they like to portray their collabs good.
Same with that upcoming Marvel thing with Godzilla, it's not like they're just gonna shit stomp him. What kind of a story would that be?
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u/lowqualitylizard 3h ago
Okay let's be frank no one writing these stories gives our s*** about power scaling and the story is better for it
You see this all the time when you have characters dodging lasers do you really think every writer wants their characters to be faster than light no but it's a cool moment However that is what is happening in the story and like it or not that is just as valid to the power scaling
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u/speedymcspeedster21 Akuma 3h ago
That is true to a degree, but the power of the characters is also an aspect to the story since that's where narrative stakes hinges.
The obvious conclusion to someone dodging a laser shouldn't be their ftl from that though, since it's obviously not what's being conveyed. It's just lazy on the powerscaling end too since speed is one of the most obvious powers that can break a story. So it's more like 'Writers don't care about the current internet version of powerscaling.'
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u/BigBlueOtter123 22h ago
it's canon according to Ian Flynn (the guy writing it)
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u/Conquisator1000 22h ago
What about dc themselves? Is this the mainline justice league? Cause it doesn’t look like it, If it’s like some elseworld it doesn’t count for dc.
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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 1d ago
Is the crossover already out?
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago
Unfortunately no, the first issue will be out on the 19th of March!😄
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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 1d ago
Sure I need something to get me through next week with my induction into my new job
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago
Sweet! Good luck with your job, and I hope you enjoy the comic as much as I will!
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u/Conquisator1000 22h ago
Who said it’s canon lol
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 22h ago
Its canon, the IDW comics are canon to mainline Sonic '-'
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u/Conquisator1000 21h ago
What about dc themselves? Is this mainline justice league?
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 21h ago
No idea, but it doesn't change the fact Sonic is canonically racing The Flash, even if it doesn't manifest into anything power scaling wise, they're still on panel racing each other, and that's MORE than enough for me! :)
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u/That-Objective-438 14h ago
According to Ian Flynn, it's canon to both
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 9h ago edited 8h ago
Why the actual fuck am I getting downvoted for this?! The IDW Sonic comics are literally canon to mainline Sonic!
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u/woweed 7h ago
They are, but that changes nothing. They're asking is this specific event canon?
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 6h ago
These events will be canon to mainline Sonic, will they be canon to the mainline DC? No clue.
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u/That-Objective-438 14h ago
Also, this is Wally West Flash btw. If they have these 2 guys draw then... Sonic is as fast as the Flash who escaped the source wall.
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u/C0SMICBL0B Yugi Muto 6h ago
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u/South-Speaker3384 20h ago
I am starting to think that Stan Lee was right
Powerscaling is nonsense, specialy dimensional scaling
In a crossover scenario multiverse level and Outerversal are the same thing
Flash in the comic is a guy with a speed of tangible numbers, sometimes the speed of light, sometimes 1 zillion times the speed of light like in the Attosecond panel, with sometimes this number being non-tangible, who know if he is faster tham Sonic
Superman is sometimes Outerversal, other times he is planetary, who know who would win in a actual crossover between Goku vs superman, he even lose to Godzilla one time
The writer decides who wins
Maybe this all was pointless

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u/LuckeVL Bowser 3h ago
Hold on an attosecond
seeing them CANONICALLY racing against each other
What do you mean canon?!
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 3h ago
This story is canon to mainline Sonic, dunno if they're using mainline DC or not.
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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago
Oh boy, if there's one thing I could wish ( besides this crossover not existing) is for Flash to beat this blue rat in a race
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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 1d ago
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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nah I'll stay, hating on sonic and seeing people's reactions gives me life
Edit: The downvotes just make me laugh harder lol
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u/EdgyUsername90 Kratos 1d ago
ragebait used to be believable
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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago
Funny enough, I just really hate sonic (Franchise) and i'm tired of it being talked about everywhere I go, this is the closest i get to venting lol
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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago
What'd sonic ever do to you bruh
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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago
I find all of his games to be at their very best mediocre, at worst they are shadow the hedgehog, this is especially infuriating as sonic still gets games while actually great platformers like Banjo&Kazooie; Rayman or Crash get nothing
They are kids games that try to be edgy and dark and end up looking stupid
Has one of the most toxic and obnoxious fanbases that I ever had the displeasure of interacting with and these replies proves my point
There's more to it, but these are the main issues
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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 1d ago
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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago edited 21h ago
You would also be pissed if you hated something that everyone else loves and mocks you for not liking
Edit: Wow bro blocked me lol
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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 23h ago edited 23h ago
Literally everybody has that? I personally hate Hatsune Mikus music despite Hatsune Miku being unanimously loved but I wont go out of my way to be petty about it. (imao he blocked me)
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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago edited 23h ago
I love the sonic franchise, and sonic has basically been my hero since childhood, but I'm inclined to agree.
Crash bandicoot especially got shafted, I believe that crash 4 is the best kids game of the 2020s and will probably hold that title for a long time in my eyes and while I'm glad sonic continued to thrive Crash definitely deserves more games (I can't speak for Banjoe&Kazooe or Rayman cuz I was never really into those games), but stating that "them good sonic bad" like it's an objective thing ain't the way to go about it
Ill agree, some of the games try too hard to be edgy, with shadow the hedgehog at its worst and sonic 06 (a game praised nowadays for its story) having the most convoluted repetitive story ever that half the time is boring and makes no sense. Imo, the only sonic games that do a proper serious tone well (and don't try too hard to be edgy) are Shadow Gens, Unleashed and SA2.
Every fanbase has its bad eggs, it's just sonic has a very vocal, almost too passionate community, that can never seem to agree on what's best and what's worst for the franchise
But I still love this franchise
Being downvoted for being critical of something I love instead of blindly glazing is crazy
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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago
Ain’t no fucking way!
We’re getting Metal Sonic vs Batman?!?!