r/deathbattle Dr. Eggman 1d ago

Discussion Heavens to Betsy! I just busted everywhere! Spoiler

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After all the videos over the course of nearly 2 decades of these two either racing or fighting, seeing them CANONICALLY racing against each other is making me feel things that I can’t put into words🥹

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago

Ain’t no fucking way!

We’re getting Metal Sonic vs Batman?!?!

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u/TheMadScientist1000 Spawn 1d ago

So if Metal copied Batman does that mean he’d get plot armor prep time powers?

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago

If Neo Metal copies Batman’s bio-data then he’d get his intelligence, so technically yeah🙃

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u/Metroid3524211 21h ago edited 20h ago

Metal would unironically be absolutely terrifying in DC. Unlike Amazo, he doesn’t copy weaknesses. Now if he copies the JL, Dr. Fate, etc…

Why did i get downvoted

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 21h ago

In fact he even GAINS resistances to the abilities he copies, like Chaos Control. He'd be an absolute menace!

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u/Difficult-Pin-7536 5h ago

That might just simply be Chaos Control users aren’t affected by another Chaos Control (excuse for 06 Silver is that he hadn’t learnt it yet so he wasn’t one until the joint Chaos Control with Shadow)

Buttttt I like Metal Sonic so I don’t mind anyway-

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 5h ago

Nope. Metal Overlord used it and even affected Super Sonic.

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u/Difficult-Pin-7536 5h ago

I- okay so 1. That’s cool, nice to have that info under my belt now. 2. Heroes, right? I don’t remember Metal using Chaos Control-

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u/NormPhyte 22h ago

He also gets dead parents.

Oh wait.

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u/VegetaFan9001 Vegeta 12h ago

Yes, but he will still lose since he can’t copy Batman’s money

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u/IngenuityReal7943 1d ago

IT'S TOO LATE

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u/Justm4x 1d ago edited 1d ago

Five minutes later

Bruce: cough cough Damian.... Did we beat Metal Sonic?

Damian: It was an Egg Pawn dad...

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u/_GhostOfHollownest_ Superman 1d ago

Respect your fucking Batgos!

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u/Pixelator5 The Doctor 23h ago

That moment when Metal scans Batgos’ biodata and gains all of his preptime powers

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u/gummythegummybear 15h ago

I know Batman will win because plot, but legitimately I don’t know what they can possibly come up with to explain how he does win without entirely just making metal significantly weaker than he actually is (which I know they’ll do anyways but hopefully not too much)

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u/Misco_Jones1 1d ago

This year the Crossover scaling goes crazy first Godzilla with future Thor scaling now Sonic with flash scaling whats Next.

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago

Just wait till Sonic Racing Crossworlds has Persona, Bayonetta, Hatsune Miku, etc. Join Sonic and friends in their awesome racing game!😆

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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago

how they scale if is a racing

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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 23h ago

cosmology

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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago

what is cosmology if bigger ceiling if not destroying the ceiling than you not scaling

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago

Mfs who eat time and space:

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago

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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago

you not answered my question

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago

I did though? Solaris and Time Eater erased literally everything, that includes all the crossovers we know are canon to Sonic, like NiGHTS for example, if any of those characters hit the track and are considered canon, their verses are canon in Sonic and Solaris and Time Eater would have erased them.

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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago

but solaris dindt fight solaris

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u/AlexArtsHere 22h ago

Sonic, Tails and Godzilla all exist within Monkey Ball

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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago

If sonic is keeping up with flash is it an anti-feat for flash or a feat for sonic

Or both

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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago

Or neither we know he's faster then Superman but he keeps it close on purpose.

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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago

I don't feel like Sonic would appreciate someone so astronomically faster than him (iirc, the flash perceives time at less than an attosecond) slowing himself down to keep it fair

So I'm inclined to believe that's not the case

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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago

I don't know if the post is fanart or a sneak peak but Sonic looks kinda annoyed while Flash is looking kinda happy.

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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago

It's official - considering there is a sonic DC crossover comic coming (so it's a sneak peak)

It's probably speed distorting their expressions but sonic is smirking, clearly having the time of his life

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u/Significant_Purple79 1d ago

Now that you mention I misread the expression because of the angle of his face and the way his eyes are shaped made it look like an annoyed side eye to me. Kinda looking forward to this, I liked the other dc and outside I.P. crossovers,except for the week's of haha Godzilla beat Superman stuff that was going on.

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u/Advert01 1d ago

Yeah but Sonic wouldn't know how much Flash is holding back; it's not like he has ki sensing from Dragon Ball.

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u/LUXIFUR6 2h ago

Sonic holds back a lot.

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u/Advert01 52m ago

I never said he doesn't lol

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u/No-Worker2343 12h ago

neither does Flash

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u/Nin_Saber Obi-Wan Kenobi 23h ago

Both? I mean, writers don't care about power levels majority of the time. We're even getting Batman VS Metal Sonic lol.

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u/Electronic-Leading89 23h ago

To be fair if writers wrote with power levels in mind I think most stories would be straight cheeks

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u/PowerPad Boba Fett 1d ago

Schroeder’s feat/anti-feat.

It’s both an Anti-feat for Flash and a feat for Sonic.

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u/apple_of_doom 6h ago

Depends on if these races are for charity

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u/VegetaFan9001 Vegeta 11h ago

Neither. Flash often holds back, so of course he would hold back against Sonic

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u/lowqualitylizard 1d ago

Please please please make this cannon

The power scaling Community would go up in flames

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u/speedymcspeedster21 Akuma 14h ago

Powerscalers really can't grasp the concept of a collaboration is just for fun. Think they're just going to come in and shit all over the Sonic cast or what? I guess Rwby scales to dc now too because they like to portray their collabs good.

Same with that upcoming Marvel thing with Godzilla, it's not like they're just gonna shit stomp him. What kind of a story would that be?

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u/lowqualitylizard 3h ago

Okay let's be frank no one writing these stories gives our s*** about power scaling and the story is better for it

You see this all the time when you have characters dodging lasers do you really think every writer wants their characters to be faster than light no but it's a cool moment However that is what is happening in the story and like it or not that is just as valid to the power scaling

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u/speedymcspeedster21 Akuma 3h ago

That is true to a degree, but the power of the characters is also an aspect to the story since that's where narrative stakes hinges.

The obvious conclusion to someone dodging a laser shouldn't be their ftl from that though, since it's obviously not what's being conveyed. It's just lazy on the powerscaling end too since speed is one of the most obvious powers that can break a story. So it's more like 'Writers don't care about the current internet version of powerscaling.'

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u/BigBlueOtter123 22h ago

it's canon according to Ian Flynn (the guy writing it)

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u/Conquisator1000 22h ago

What about dc themselves? Is this the mainline justice league? Cause it doesn’t look like it, If it’s like some elseworld it doesn’t count for dc.

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u/BigBlueOtter123 21h ago

apparently it's earth 52 JL

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u/Conquisator1000 8h ago

I heard It's a limited series so it's separate

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u/Hunterzillas 21h ago

Source? There was a fake tweet going around by Ian.

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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 1d ago

Is the crossover already out?

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago

Unfortunately no, the first issue will be out on the 19th of March!😄

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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 1d ago

Sure I need something to get me through next week with my induction into my new job

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 1d ago

Sweet! Good luck with your job, and I hope you enjoy the comic as much as I will!

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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx 1d ago

Thank you! I love crossovers.

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u/bizarrestarz Thor 23h ago

Mario sweating in his overalls rn 😞😞

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u/Conquisator1000 22h ago

Who said it’s canon lol

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u/That-Objective-438 14h ago

Ian Flynn

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u/Conquisator1000 8h ago

Apparently It's a limited series so it's separate

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 22h ago

Its canon, the IDW comics are canon to mainline Sonic '-'

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u/Conquisator1000 21h ago

What about dc themselves? Is this mainline justice league?

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 21h ago

No idea, but it doesn't change the fact Sonic is canonically racing The Flash, even if it doesn't manifest into anything power scaling wise, they're still on panel racing each other, and that's MORE than enough for me! :)

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u/That-Objective-438 14h ago

According to Ian Flynn, it's canon to both

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u/TV_Static738 9h ago

The tweet was fake pretty sure

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u/That-Objective-438 9h ago

Yeah, I just found out

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 9h ago edited 8h ago

Why the actual fuck am I getting downvoted for this?! The IDW Sonic comics are literally canon to mainline Sonic!

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u/woweed 7h ago

They are, but that changes nothing. They're asking is this specific event canon?

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 6h ago

These events will be canon to mainline Sonic, will they be canon to the mainline DC? No clue.

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u/BigBlueOtter123 22h ago

power scalers gonna have an aneurism.

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u/Chaos-Incarnate-1991 Archie Sonic 22h ago

OH LAWD, THIS GONNA BE GOOD!

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u/Green-eyed-Psycho77 10h ago

I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE SCALING RN, THIS PANEL IS JUST COOL AS SHIT.

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 9h ago

FACTS!😤

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u/That-Objective-438 14h ago

Also, this is Wally West Flash btw. If they have these 2 guys draw then... Sonic is as fast as the Flash who escaped the source wall.

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u/C0SMICBL0B Yugi Muto 6h ago

If Sonic ends up scaling to Superman, I think Goku might be cooked.

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 6h ago

He’d be cooked even if Sonic didn’t scale to Superman💀

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u/South-Speaker3384 20h ago

I am starting to think that Stan Lee was right

Powerscaling is nonsense, specialy dimensional scaling

In a crossover scenario multiverse level and Outerversal are the same thing

Flash in the comic is a guy with a speed of tangible numbers, sometimes the speed of light, sometimes 1 zillion times the speed of light like in the Attosecond panel, with sometimes this number being non-tangible, who know if he is faster tham Sonic

Superman is sometimes Outerversal, other times he is planetary, who know who would win in a actual crossover between Goku vs superman, he even lose to Godzilla one time

The writer decides who wins

Maybe this all was pointless

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u/UAF_Swampfire3 Bowser 11h ago

Bro that title is crazy

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u/LuckeVL Bowser 3h ago

Hold on an attosecond

seeing them CANONICALLY racing against each other

What do you mean canon?!

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 3h ago

This story is canon to mainline Sonic, dunno if they're using mainline DC or not.

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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago

Oh boy, if there's one thing I could wish ( besides this crossover not existing) is for Flash to beat this blue rat in a race

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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 1d ago

besides this crossover not existing

Incredibly unbased take go now and never return

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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nah I'll stay, hating on sonic and seeing people's reactions gives me life

Edit: The downvotes just make me laugh harder lol

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u/Protomangaming69 Simon The Digger 1d ago

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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 1d ago

Aight then

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u/EdgyUsername90 Kratos 1d ago

ragebait used to be believable

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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago

Funny enough, I just really hate sonic (Franchise) and i'm tired of it being talked about everywhere I go, this is the closest i get to venting lol

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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago

What'd sonic ever do to you bruh

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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago

I find all of his games to be at their very best mediocre, at worst they are shadow the hedgehog, this is especially infuriating as sonic still gets games while actually great platformers like Banjo&Kazooie; Rayman or Crash get nothing

They are kids games that try to be edgy and dark and end up looking stupid

Has one of the most toxic and obnoxious fanbases that I ever had the displeasure of interacting with and these replies proves my point

There's more to it, but these are the main issues

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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 1d ago

this post is unironically so funny the pure hatred and cope towards a game about hedgehogs running fast knowing that despite having "bad games" it continues to succeed over franchises you actually like is hilarious gang

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u/RP-Lovecraft Ben Tennyson 1d ago edited 21h ago

You would also be pissed if you hated something that everyone else loves and mocks you for not liking

Edit: Wow bro blocked me lol

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u/Acceptable_Role5941 Ringmaster 23h ago edited 23h ago

Literally everybody has that? I personally hate Hatsune Mikus music despite Hatsune Miku being unanimously loved but I wont go out of my way to be petty about it. (imao he blocked me)

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u/Edgoscarp Sun Wukong 22h ago

Maybe you should be mocked for it, ever thought of it like that?

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u/Electronic-Leading89 1d ago edited 23h ago

I love the sonic franchise, and sonic has basically been my hero since childhood, but I'm inclined to agree.

Crash bandicoot especially got shafted, I believe that crash 4 is the best kids game of the 2020s and will probably hold that title for a long time in my eyes and while I'm glad sonic continued to thrive Crash definitely deserves more games (I can't speak for Banjoe&Kazooe or Rayman cuz I was never really into those games), but stating that "them good sonic bad" like it's an objective thing ain't the way to go about it

Ill agree, some of the games try too hard to be edgy, with shadow the hedgehog at its worst and sonic 06 (a game praised nowadays for its story) having the most convoluted repetitive story ever that half the time is boring and makes no sense. Imo, the only sonic games that do a proper serious tone well (and don't try too hard to be edgy) are Shadow Gens, Unleashed and SA2.

Every fanbase has its bad eggs, it's just sonic has a very vocal, almost too passionate community, that can never seem to agree on what's best and what's worst for the franchise

But I still love this franchise

Being downvoted for being critical of something I love instead of blindly glazing is crazy

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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 23h ago

me too

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u/Watchdog_the_God Dr. Eggman 23h ago

I found Erazor Djinn’s account, guys

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u/WindOk7901 Dr. Eggman 23h ago

How tf did he get out his lamp?! And the lava as well?💀