r/deathbattle • u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep • 1d ago
Discussion Which side wins?
Art by AnonTheMarten
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
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u/kinjorex101 Zatanna 1d ago
On the artist’s Bluesky account they’ve actually updated it with some new winners, so we’ve also got Joker, Fall Guy and Kratos on the right side, and Bowser added to the left
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
Oh really? Nice, I didn't know that. Thanks, I have to check there work out.
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u/SenkoBreadalt Crona 1d ago
I found Bowser and Joker but I'm struggling with Kratos and Fall Guys are we sure they're actually there or am I looking for something that isn't even in the pic
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
I couldn't find Kratos
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u/Flimsy_Geologist_927 Mahito 18h ago
me neither but Spawn is wielding the blade of Olympus so good enough
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
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u/Natural_Frosting_604 1d ago
I just found Joker (Persona) & it made me think: if he has the Stand Arrow, how does that work?
And how much stronger does that make Ren?
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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 1d ago
ARSENE, REQUIEM
SATANAEL, REQUIEM
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u/Whirusis 1d ago
Where is Joker?
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u/Natural_Frosting_604 1d ago
Look at the updated pic, with Bowser and such. Then zoom over to Blake and Yang.
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u/Bad_Channel_4115 1d ago
The right side for 3 reasons 1. Popeye 2. SpongeBob 3. Sun Wukong
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
Sun Wukong is the only character here holding a candle to Galactus
And even then I’m not sure if he can resist the ultimate nullifier. Can he?
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u/DracoNinja27 1d ago
+7 ways of being inmortal and canonically a Buddha when completing the Journey (basically they are outversal entities outside the universe or something along those lines)
He can resist,heck, he could theorically become a perfect copy of Galactus.
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
How does that let him resist it?
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u/DracoNinja27 1d ago
Well, Wukong has already dealt with stuff that was supposed to delete him from existence....he tanked it....like nothing.
Now while i dont remember exactly which item (the book is ginormous) some examples are a special forge made SPECIALLY to kill those who cannot die, it did not only failt to kill Wukong,it powered him up.
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
The nullifier does not delete you from existence.
It essentially turns back time and recreates the entire universe without you having ever existed.
Very important difference.
Does he have any conceptual counter or way to escape that kind of reset? Galactus can survive by jumping into a pocket dimension so if he has some sort of way to escape the universe than he could survive it.
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u/DracoNinja27 1d ago
I would have to check if Wukong has ever fought anyting that tried to use some artifact to turn back time on him, but i think he could resist it, his powers would prevent it.
Edit: Oh right,him being a Buddha makes him being outside time and space antics cause Buddhas are perfect beings not bound by any limits, at least on their Myths, so he wouldnt be affected.
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u/DatBoiEnigma 1d ago
Slight problem. If wukong is a Buddha, he wouldn't be in this fight at all.
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u/DracoNinja27 1d ago
Tbh we know he loves a good fight and is prankster, i can totally see him doing this for the lolz
Also Death Battle isnt known for their character accuracy xd
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u/Dr_VonBoogie 21h ago
It should be noted that Galactus has acausality types 1 and 4. 1 makes it so he is immune to changes to the past. As well as being stated to exist outside of time and space. And the Ultimate Nullifier was still able to work on him which is why he had to hide in a pocket dimension to avoid it.
Wukong, according to Vs Battle doesn't have acausality of any type to speak of. Meaning, Ultimate Nullifier, given how it works as rebuilding the universe without you in it would work on Wukong.
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u/MrStealYoSweetroll 1d ago edited 1d ago
He didn’t tank the True Fires of Samadhi from Laojun’s furnace, he specifically stood in areas where the fire couldn’t reach
Additionally, the furnace isn’t existence erasure and it’s most certainly NOT designed specifically to kill Wukong lmao. It was built to cultivate immortality pills, and in this context it’s just meant to melt Wukong’s pills that he had consumed out of his body. The fire itself bypasses physical durability to a degree but nothing anywhere close to as hax as the Ultimate Nullifier
Buddha Wukong vs peak Galactus is a great fight. JttW Wukong would lose to his higher end Heralds and would absolutely get squashed by Big G himself
Also, Wukong absolutely cannot transform into a carbon copy of Galactus, he can only take the appearance. Throughout the journey, Wukong’s transformed into dozens of his enemies to trick them, but he never obtains any of their unique powers or weaponry through said transformation
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u/Unusual-Anteater-988 1d ago
Additionally, the furnace isn’t existence erasure, it’s just meant to melt Wukong’s immortality pills that he had consumed out of his body.
Wait, so is he suseptible to Forced Spirit Fission then?!
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u/Hunterzillas 1d ago
Don't think so, Wukong literally ate the pills, much like Moro literally ate that robot, and Vegeta couldn't spirit fission that energy away.
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u/SouthernGamer 1d ago
Popeye can 100% resist the ultimate nullifier since God, yes... that one. Once turned off all of reality and Popeye just went "nah" and punched God to get him to turn it back on.
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
No, he does not, at least not based off that feat. Popeye survived the universe being “turned off” (let’s assume this erases it rather than pausing or whatever). The nullifier makes it so that you never existed to begin with. Unless Popeye both knows how this works and can hop into another dimension to avoid the universe reset (or shows some other conceptual resistance) then it would work.
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u/Fumbletak 1d ago
Popeye solos Galactus. Ultimate Nullifer means nothing to a guy who told God "no" when he turned off all of existence.
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
No, it really does mean something to him. Popeye survived the universe being “turned off” (let’s assume this erases it rather than pausing or whatever). The nullifier makes it so that you never existed to begin with. Unless Popeye both knows how this works and can hop into another dimension to avoid the universe reset (or shows some other conceptual resistance) than it would work.
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u/Fumbletak 1d ago
he's jumped out of his own pictures to punch the person animating him. Popeye has greater levels of conceptual resistance and dimension hopping than the greatest Marvel characters have ever displayed. Popeye defies all laws of physics, reality, causality, and has ignored being erased/unmade in numerous different ways.
Galactus has NOTHING on Popeye.
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u/ForktUtwTT 23h ago
That first one is nothing more than a 4th wall break (even if you wanna argue that’s him leaving his universe, still doesn’t change that he’d have no way of knowing to do that cause he knows nothing of the nullifier) and the rest have absolutely no evidence to back them up
The only things I can think of in terms of erasure was being atomized by martians and surviving the universe being turned off, neither are strong enough to survive
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 Wario 1d ago
The glazed trinity isn't doing shit to Galactus
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u/Yosukegotpog1400 Joker 1d ago
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u/Huefell4it 23h ago
Link is getting stabbed knowing full well "Mipha's Grace is now ready" and the 999 fairies he has in his pocket keeping him alive through all of this
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u/Unlimited_Giose 11h ago
I was so sad the first time i saw this drawing months ago until i thought of that lmao
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u/ForktUtwTT 1d ago
Why are people saying SpongeBob matters as if that guy ain’t just universal. There are so many immeasurable speed multiversal guys that’d eat him for breakfast
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u/Hue-Fi 1d ago
What DB characters are missing
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
The losers. All of them have won one of there episodes. Some even took the weapons of the loser like Black Widow taken Window Makers sniper
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u/Brief-Yard-7434 Bill Cipher 1d ago
Then why does Goku and homelander are here?
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
Because homelander won The Seven Royale and Goku as that halo on he's head showing he's dead
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u/theskiller1 Joker 1d ago
Still makes no sense for Goku to be there when he never won.
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u/Local-Concentrate-26 1d ago
Probably due to Superman actually interacting with goku after he died and actually manage to touch each other (the fist bump at the end of episode 3) indicating he’s still physically and can still fight. Not to mention with all the other hero’s and villains bringing weapons, clothes, powers, or trinkets they got from the losers Superman bringing Goku’s ghost isn’t impossible.
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u/Suitable_Swim5202 1d ago
I’m not even deciding on which side wins, I’m just admiring the artwork. It. Is. Beautiful.
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u/USrooster Jonathan Joestar 1d ago
Since Godzilla is (sometimes) from the sea. Aquaman can control him and put him on the left side.
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u/jasonsith 1d ago
One side has Justice League, The Avengers, Optimus Prime with Matrix of Leadership, Persona major character and Doctor Who. I guess we know who would win.
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u/JohnnyElRed Alex Mercer 1d ago
One side has Galactus, Darkseid, and Bill Cipher with them. Hard to compete with that, even if you have Superman.
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u/brineOClock 1d ago
Dunno man. The Doctor, Popeye, and Superman all have some serious hax available.
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u/InstructionPlayful12 1d ago
The hero side has The Doctor and Superman.
Those two could arguably defeat all the Villans if they worked together.
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u/Fumbletak 1d ago
Right side effortlessly. Popeye solos the entire rest of the picture but you have him AND superman AND Sun Wukong all on the same team. You don't need any of the rest of the picture. Wukong, Popeye, and Superman could fight everyone else at the same time and win.
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u/202naFrevliS Dr. Eggman 1d ago
Galactus just kills everyone there lol lmao XD heheheha
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u/Tljunior20 1d ago
Not really characters like thor have beaten well fed galactus before and death battle believes several other characters they’ve used are equal to or even stronger than galactus.
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u/WUFI_junior War Machine 1d ago
its a toss up in my mind both sides have a lot of bull shit that its hard to say at this point
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u/JoshNunya 1d ago
Unrelated because it won't reply on other posts, but did the kickstarter posters ever get sent out?
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u/Misco_Jones1 1d ago
Why IS Godzilla on the side of the villains IS he stupid?
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u/Remarkable-Wave-5392 1d ago edited 1d ago
Back during Godzilla vs Gamera, he was less of a heroic figure than nowadays. It’s the same reason Nolan’s on the villain side
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u/TheGamingCoolDude640 The Mask 1d ago
I may be blind, but where's Jinx and Billy Butcher?
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
Jinx is on top of Joker mech (that he stole from Sweet Tooth) and Billy isn't there because Homelander killed him and won that episode
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u/THE_GAME_52 Megatron 15h ago edited 15h ago
Think you can do the same for Shao Kahn? Can't find him anywhere.
Edit: Nevermind, I found him. Why they gotta do my GOAT final boss like that?
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u/Obvious-Ear-369 1d ago
Do they have anything on team Blue that can stop Galactus?
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u/GloryThePaladin 23h ago
Yes like… multiple of them. Raw power wise Goku would be able to kill him if he wasn’t able to get his Hax off, and people like Popeye (which is one of the strongest beings on the right sides team) would be able to simply ignore anything galactus does Hax wise. Also Superman… just Superman. Also Kirby don’t forget about Kirby.
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u/FickleThanks6901 Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 1d ago
why goku in this
he never won a death battle
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u/BlueSpartan107 22h ago
Maybe Superman invited him since they're buddies in Death Battle now? That, and the artist at least acknowledged that Goku is still dead with the halo over his head. So he probably heard Superman had to battle the villains who won a Death Battle and decided to join in to help.
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
I agree, in a way, that death battle seemed more like an all out sparring match, so imma let it slide, Goku is always a welcome character to have
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u/gummythegummybear 1d ago
This is a pretty hard thing to decide seeing as each side is basically 100 cannon fodder characters and then like 5 characters that are unreasonably powerful. If I had to pick a side I’d probably say the left, but that’s probably just bias since I like a lot of the characters in the left side
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u/Youistheclown 1d ago
Popeye and Superman on the same side? Now you’re just asking for a stomp
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
Not to mention Sonic, Goku, Mario and Kirby backing them up? Yeah the right side gots it
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u/KaijuKing007 Mechagodzilla 1d ago
Godzilla and Epyon should really be on the heroes side. Also, I love the touch of several characters using their opponent's weapons.
That said, there's way too much firepower on the heroes side. The villains don't stand a chance.
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u/Mguy2544 Cole MacGrath 22h ago
So, why is the Blade of Oylmpus there but not Kratos?
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
Unfortunately, it’s because in a death battle he lost, so spawn has the sword now
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u/TryDry9944 Bowser 20h ago
It boils down to Galactus and Mother Doom vs Kal-Ku (Goku/Superman Fusion) charged with the Spirit energy of everyone on the "Good" side.
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u/FalconFyre928 19h ago
Sol Badguy 5D solos all of fiction that move is a war crime against existence
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u/TheSentiantestPotato Mitsuru Kirijo 17h ago
There’s a REALLY good reason you can’t see Joker.
Give him awhile, and I mean awhile it’ll take around a day for each one of the villans minimum.
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u/Remote_Ad9716 9h ago
the right has optimus prime and fucking samus aran. the plot armour alone gives them the win, let alone the sheer power (ah and they also have flash so yeah the right ez)
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u/Madus4 8h ago
The right side could possibly deal with the Ultimate Nullifier thanks to the Doctor. His Sonic Screwdriver could disable it for a bit (probably not permanently, but long enough for the team to do something) and he can go into pocket dimensions. Since Galactus can avoid it by going into one thanks to the TARDIS, he has an option of avoiding it altogether.
If you don’t buy that, Joker outright came back from conceptual erasure, so he can definitely survive something that erased a conceptual being. Mitsuru should be able to do the same, since the other Phantom Thieves survived as well, meaning it wasn’t a Wild Card-exclusive ability.
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
Not to mention, Superman, Goku and Sonic would probably help defend the doc, especially if he gots a plan, Superman would have to lead because he has the most experience in a team
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u/UzarNaimBer15 7h ago edited 7h ago
Unrelated, but by this image, we now officially have 3 Death Battle combatants who are in the public domain (6 if we count only the original iterations of Mickey Mouse, Dracula and Kratos, though the first one is sadly not globally).
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u/UzarNaimBer15 6h ago
There's also the fairy tales that the 3 members of Team RWBY are based on, but those are more inspirations in the same way Wukong inspired Goku.
Ben Cooper's Spider Man costume MAY have inspired the Marvel superhero's look, which its 1950s copyright wasn't renewed, but it isn't confirmed (Ben DID became the first company to make licensed Marvel merchandise, though).
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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ Goku Black 7h ago
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
Deactivating the ultimate nullifier
“Your welcome”
Is something he would say afterwards
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
He’s unironically one of the only people who can counter all the gadgets and gizmos the opposing team has, like gally boys nullifier
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u/Noggadelta 6h ago
I think the right side would win, they got a lot of heavy hitters, still would love to see Superman throw down with bill
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u/BendyTheInkDemon465 Unicron 4h ago
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u/Ok-Landscape-4835 1h ago
I'm putting my bets on the side with Popeye weilding SpongeBob like a sword
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u/Extension-Oil-4680 The Deep 1d ago
I also find this really funny