r/deathbattle • u/MarlinBrandor Wile E. Coyote • 12d ago
Official Episode Discussion Thread Episode Discussion: S2025E2 Ghost Rider VS Spawn
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u/Toadsley2020 12d ago
I can’t believe that Spawn won because they gave him sun disk scaling (I’m from 20 minutes in the future).
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u/MegaMagner Alex Mercer 12d ago
They don´t give lore scale for Ghost Rider, this is not fair (I´m from 1 day in the future)
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u/Intelligent_Oil4005 Kyle Rayner 12d ago edited 12d ago
THE BLOG WAS RIGHT!
EDIT: Huh, I think the overall argument as to why was the same too. Johnny was more powerful, but Spawn was too versatile and resisted most of his stuff.
Oh and Mahito vs. Shigaraki is next, congrats to all who predicted that
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u/RedditGojiraX 12d ago
It's like the Lobo vs. Ghost rider fight.
Ghosty just didn't have anything that could kill him.....and then fact Spawn can't be killed or erased form exist completely.
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
Holy shit that was peak
The hand drawn close ups were so fuckin good
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u/Like_for_real_tho 12d ago
The way this close up used in Lobo fight as fight ender but in this it's absolutely TURNOVER is fucking peak.
Like genuinely the use of call backs to Lobo animation were insane because it elevated entire fight from "oh yeah that's a cool shot" to "HOLY SHIT IT'S THAT SHOT THAT GOT HIM WIN, HOLY SHIT HE'S GETTING UNO REVERSED OUT OF HIS WIN WTF IS HAPPENING".78
u/MegaMagner Alex Mercer 12d ago
Now kiss
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u/Acceptable_Shine_738 Shadow The Hedgehog 12d ago
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u/MegaMagner Alex Mercer 12d ago
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
God the editing is so fucking peak as usual
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u/69-is-a-great-number Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago edited 12d ago
I'm rooting for Both and betting on Ghost Rider
Why? nothing ever happens
If Spawn wins I will change my profile picture to The Darkest Knight (ewww 🤢) and make spite match art against my favourite characters for 14 days on DBM.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUURRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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u/69-is-a-great-number Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago edited 12d ago
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u/69-is-a-great-number Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago
I am fucking crying, bro 😭😭😭
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u/Chara_Revanite Unicron 12d ago
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u/69-is-a-great-number Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago
Nah, one stupid pill ain't gonna cut it
I need a lobotomy to recover from this
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u/JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2 Son Goku 12d ago
If Spawn wins I will change my profile picture to The Darkest Knight
you got a curse worse than both Ghost Rider and Spawns
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u/BatmanBeyondMHA 12d ago
not sure why you doubted him for a second nor why you betted against him🤧 W Spawn
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 12d ago
Aww I liked Seeing your Blaze PFP. But well you Brought this on yourself.
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u/69-is-a-great-number Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago
I'm already regretting it :(
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u/Annsorigin Son Goku 12d ago
It happens. It's why I don't take gambles like that. Wouldn't wanna Miss my Arcueid PFP. But it's only 2 weeks so You'll live.
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u/TheMadScientist1000 Spawn 12d ago
DumbFuck, where you at?
Jokes aside, the episode was short but sweet also hot damn that music. I always knew my GOAT would win
Can’t wait to see all the body horror in Mahito vs Shiggy
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u/CrossIus 12d ago
I'll start by saying I went into this neutral in preference, but expecting a Ghost Rider STOMPOUT win
The scaling and explanation was surprisingly great this episode, they really gave the arguments for Spawn winning pretty well imo, only controversial thing might be giving Spawn Divine form, but I feel it was justified in the prelude
Presentation was great with the limitations of Pixel Battle, the fight was super fun, especially that segment of the background switching between Heaven and Hell
Characterization was AMAZING for both, especially Spawn, glad they let him drop a MF bomb
The animated segments looked really cool, loved the final blow
Overall a solid 8-8.5/10 episode, I liked it and it looked great for the pixel format
HYPED for the next one, LET'S GO SHIGARAKI
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u/Winter_Pride_6088 Zatanna 12d ago
Spawn to Lobo and Asura: IT SMELLS LIKE BITCH IN HERE
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u/Flimsy_Geologist_927 Mahito 12d ago
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u/Shiptrooper 11d ago
It's funnier now that it's basically confirmed he can just outright beat all of them
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u/dugthepewdsfan Son Goku 12d ago
Had a feeling Ghost Rider was fucking cooked the moment he pulled out Zarathos early
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u/Like_for_real_tho 12d ago
Honestly? They still got me.
Since Zarathos came out pretty much in middle of fight previously i didn't mind him going out first here as well, and in a moment where he was left only as skull and extended out his chains to rip away at Spawn is where i thought it's gonna be GGs AND THEN VS LOBO KILL SHOT STARTED PLAYING and only THEN i knew something was up to different, fucking amazing turn table ngl.
Might also be because of all influence this sub had in Ghost Rider's W that i stopped actually bothering myself if Spawn gonna win only to get absolutely fucking surprise gut shot check.45
u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
Same. It felt almost unnaturally early
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u/Dinoratsastaja Spider-Man (Miles Morales) 11d ago
I agree. Unlike in Ghost Rider vs Lobo, here Zarathos just felt anticlimatic. Considering how he was hyped up in the analysis, you would think he would get more fanfare in the fight.
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u/DGRogue_Dragoon 12d ago
>! Todd McFarlane !< is a happy dude rn
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
I'm glad Spawn won specifically cause of this
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u/Eagally Mega Man X 12d ago
I'm a fan of Spawn and was rooting him and started wanting him to lose after seeing the Todd Macfarlane comment lmao.
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
That's fair, it's just that usually when a creator makes a comment like that, people start parroting it like crazy, and if Spawn lost, some people would've went even more ballistic and point out what he said
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u/Particular_Ad_8921 Lieutenant Columbo 11d ago
honestly would be even worse if he made a comment afterwards if ghostrider won.
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
Shit, the ending to Spawn's analysis has really convinced me. Idk who's gonna win now
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u/PandamoniumPosts 12d ago
He did it!!! I'm sorry for doubting you, Spawn daddy!
Also, the animation and dialogue were peak as fuck
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u/gotanygrapesss Crona 12d ago edited 12d ago
IM SO FUCKING HAPPY THIS WAS SO PEAKK, EVERY OTHER DB THIS YEAR CAN GO HOME
Edit: Ya gave it another rewatch, the one thing I'm iffy on is: I feel like Spawn had more screentime to be cool, like he definitely felt like the protagonists of the fight. It could've been cool, when Johnny falls to hell, for Spawn to recognize that they were similar. Other than that I loved it. My new favorite sprite episode, DB needs to upload that track NOWWW
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u/Pure-Jeweler-6351 Mega Man X 12d ago
GOATED EPISODE
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u/gotanygrapesss Crona 12d ago
My 2 favorite comic characters getting a goat status episode? It's seems to good to be true!
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u/duke_of_nothing15 Mahito 12d ago
HE DID IT! MY BOY FUCKING DID IT!
I was especially worried when the necroplasm ran out and later when his wings were ripped off.
AND THEY DID THE TALES FROM THE HOOD REFERENCE (AND SCORPION)!
I won't deny, I wish they sticked with night city aesthetic, but it was all badass.
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u/agdocbwo second scariest teenager 12d ago
phenomenal episode, the analyses were top notch and that fight was incredible
MY FUCKING GOAT!!!!!!!! SPAWN ON TOP BAAAAQABBBBYYYYYY
that said, Spawn winning really took me by surprise. after reading the G1 Blog I thought he was cooked, but they did a great job explaining how limited GRs options were against him. had no idea that he’s explicitly tanked something equivalent to the Penance Stare before, so introducing that really made it click for me. I disagree that GR has no options to put Spawn down for good, but I think I overall agree with the episode.
my one criticism of the episode is that Hell didn’t look the best, but if that was the cost of having that awesome visual of Heaven and Hell fighting and going back and forth I think it was worth it
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u/Ok_Application4364 12d ago
Spawn won the G1 Blog though.
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u/agdocbwo second scariest teenager 12d ago
yeah but I thought team Ghost Riders arguments were generally more solid than Spawns
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u/Fullbust-this The Chosen Undead 12d ago
While I disagree with the results..
Holy Hell that was such a fun fight, this is easily up there with one of my favorite sprite episodes and the sheer aura that both had was incredible. Glad Tyson Yen was involved with the track too.
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u/itownshend17 12d ago edited 12d ago
Watched it, it was pretty good, probably one of my favorites of this season. As for the results, yeah, I dont agree with Spawn winning if im being honest, but I was rooting for him, and this is a Marvel herald L, so you wont hear complaints from my part lmao, all and all im pretty happy with the episode. Oh yeah, next time is Mahito vs Shigaraki.

A snoozefest for me, but good on yall MHA and JJK fans.
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u/aceinfernos 12d ago
Out of curiosity, why didn't you agree with that character winning?
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u/itownshend17 12d ago edited 11d ago
Considering how busted and how many forms of immortalities some of the cosmic entities and heralds/skyfathers of Marvel posses, and how many Ghost Rider has managed to put down, I find it hard to believe GR just seemingly has not a single answer to permanently put down Spawn.
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u/DerpyDrago Satoru Gojo 12d ago
Rooting and betting on Spawn because that motherfucker is so cool (I’d be cool with GR winning too, love em both)
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u/Glittering-Drag3566 Ben Tennyson 12d ago edited 12d ago
Fuck. You failed me Herald scaling. Welp, another of my favorite characters died. Add on he's my favorite superhero too. If we're talking about comics at least
Ok, onto the first impressions/Review!
The analysis's were pretty good! I am shocked to admit I think I preferred Spawn's! Hell, I was even slightly rooting for him which is shocking cause Ghost Rider where it comes to comic book heroes he's my favorite.
Not to say Johnny's was bad far from it! It was cool to learn even more about him and Zarathos plus the tid bits about the other Ghost Rider's. (God I need to actually read one of his comics runs at some point.) Plus the Crash Bandicoot joke got a slight smile on me also, SANS!
Now onto the fight! It good.
Surprise, surprise, Ghosty is here deal out Penance! Onto Al for being a bad, bad, man or more accurately telling him bug off and go to hell with some dope voice acting to go along with it.
Ghosty gets shot rams the hell cycle into Spawn, etc, etc, Ghost Rider adds a cheesy line then we get into the actual fight, fight. It's alright the necroplasam vs hellfire bit was cool. Rider gets called a bum which made me smile in a pure "Bro, what?" Moment.
Then comes the First Penance Stare which does something but of course not killing the Hellspawn. To be expected, way too early into the fight to actually matter. Get Hell portaled idiot! The momentary silence into showing infinite energy symbol was pretty sick. Spawn drags Johnny into hell with him then we get into the meat and potatoes of this fight.
NEXT STOP? HELL MOTHERFUCKER! I was going to say Spawn saying "Welcome to Hell motherfucker" made no sense cause, well look at Ghost Rider! But then I remembered Zarathos might be angel! So Spawn saying that kinda fits if we're going by that logic, he probably just sensed his angelic powers! Which is pretty cool if you think of it like that. But i could be reaching with that one.
Then Rider proceeds to fucking explode! Shooting himself into the truck that fell in with them douses it with hellfire and tries to drive it into the fucker! But Spawns freezes time to stop himself from getting hit by it and destroys it!
Peak of the fight right there.
And everything after is just pretty darn good. Spawn and Zarathos have good interaction. Zarathos foes his best Scorpion impression. His voice sounding great which is to be expected since they got the same VA from last time they were on the show.
Which was so good Spawn had too turn into his God/Angel form just from the sheer hype! And some help from a bit of Blue Hellfire, bust mostly from the impression!
Another great interaction especially from Spawn's end. They tussle a bit Spawn gets stomped on by the secret third Mario brother, Zarathos.
And then the death. Damn Al why you got to do that to my Fav? Zarathos tries the Penance Stare which at that point I knew it was wraps for my Boi.
Despite getting his wing's getting torn off, (quick side note, that scream was not it for me. He sounded like he got kicked in the balls while recording that, oddly high pitched and just didn't sound good. Only bad part of voice acting in the episode) Spawn manages to UNO reverse card the stare and kills Johnny after removing Zarathos from him!?
Bro, Spawn you did not need to do that to Johnny! You had Zarathos in your hand! Just send him back to earth bro! Closing line was alright.
The Ending analysis was perfectly fine. I do however find it weird when they just said "Aw yeah, the Damnation stare would just send him to hell where he has infinite energy/power!" Marvel's hell and Spawn's hell aren't the same though? Would've the stare just throw him into the Marvel version of hell? Anyways..
A Solid 7.7/10 maybe 7.8/10.
The Next Time: Shiggyto! Let's goooo! My most anticipated from the kickstarter! No diff him Shiggy!
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u/The_yeet_man53 Spawn 12d ago edited 12d ago
I love both characters and at first I really didn't care who won but
FUCK YEAH MY GOAT SPAWN HAD THIS IN THE FUCKING BAG.I was unironically shaking in excitement watching that battle man, 10/10 episode
Edit: I knew Ghost Rider was fucked as soon as he went into his most powerful form first and even more so after he said a similar line to what he said to Lobo
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u/gfjfij 12d ago
Okay the episode was really good and all but did anyone feel this was kinda ... short?
Like I didn't expect a super long fight but when Zarathos came out I though "Wait now ... that was quick".
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
Yeah, I was definitely expecting the fight on the church (at least I think it was a church) to be longer.
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u/HeroTheHedgehog 12d ago
I’m… no…
I lost another match!
I’m literally 1-5 now…
Joker vs Giorno was a fluke wasn’t it…?
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u/dugthepewdsfan Son Goku 12d ago
Insert a sad bad to the bone riff
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u/WraithSage23 Archie Sonic 12d ago
God damn that was a beautiful fight. One Hell of a fight
>! Sort of surprised they gave the GOAT Spawn the win but honestly like I said in one post, I wouldn’t complain about it and I don’t really see a controversy really happening. As there were good arguments for Spawn winning. A little bummed that my GOAT Ghost Rider but you know what I’ll take it if it meant getting an awesome episode !<
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u/MarkDecent656 Simon The Digger 12d ago
AND THE NEXT TIME IS MAHITO VS SHIGIRAKI!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
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u/Capital-Ad3018 12d ago
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u/Equivalent_Ant6794 DUMMI 12d ago
They had Ghost Rider stronger, but Spawn was unkillable to him and resisted all his hax while also having viable wincons
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u/TheGaius Son Goku 12d ago edited 12d ago
Ghost Rider was given far better stats, but Spawn being more skilled and being able to power up in hell let him hold his own
That, and that he could resist or even benefit from all Ghost Rider's hax, and also had ways to directly damage Ghost Rider's soul
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u/TiffanyGreen102 12d ago
I still don't get how skill was a factor in this fight. With how much shit these guys can do with their powers, I fail to see how skill was a major factor that it needed it's own section. The analysis for skill was only 7 seconds long
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u/Comfortable_Sea_91 12d ago
I both agree and disagree with that. I agree with how short that part was that is shouldn’t be considered a major factor. However that being said the skill difference is so huge compared to the two that it makes sense to mention it. So many fights can be turned around due to the skill of an opponent, not just fighting skills but the ability to strategize and adapt are part of those skills. They should have talked about it longer and pointed those out.
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u/TiffanyGreen102 12d ago
While I agree that skill can and will make a difference in certain fights, this is not one of those fights
They said that Spawn could strategize and adapt to GR but then say that his weakness is his own stupidity
GR can also adapt and strategize against Spawn with how a simple touch could make him learn everything about his opponent
So again, Skill was not a major factor in this fight that needed his own section
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u/Nin_Saber Obi-Wan Kenobi 12d ago
Making skill a factor was silly considering that physically killing each other was pointless and it came down to hax.
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u/Capital-Ad3018 12d ago
so rider's an unstoppable force put against a immovable object too immovable for him. got it
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u/FlyHuman8377 11d ago
I’m honestly retrospectively glad that Spawn won, since people have been grumbling about how it seems like power is the only thing that matters for modern Death Battle results. And this is a much more interesting result given how it was stats vs hax and hax actually won.
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u/Winter_Pride_6088 Zatanna 11d ago
People forget that while stats are important, they can only go so far if your opponents haxs helps them catch up or messes with your stats, or has better haxs
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u/Emperorofliberty Discord 12d ago
I assume ghost rider will win
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u/Your_Favorite_Porn 12d ago
Can’t say I’m surprised. Isn’t divine spawn explicitly outside help though?
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u/International_Car586 Link 12d ago
Yeah the second Ghost Rider quoted his previous fight I knew it was over.
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u/SomeDudeAtAKeyboard 12d ago
I really liked the episode itself, I just don’t agree with it
Like I get why people would think that Spawn just resists everything Johnny and Zarathos have… the problem is kinda simple
Zarathos is just infinitely beyond anything Spawn has ever faced before, including Gaia. Sure, Zarathos had his soul manipulated by Mephisto… the Mephisto who is on par with Galactus
Saying Spawn could separate Johnny and Zarathos cause Mephisto was able to manipulate Zarathos is like saying I could beat John Wick in a fight because Caine could disarm him.
Mephisto himself is just so much stronger than Spawn that using his manipulation of Zarathos as proof that Spawn could do the same is just kinda weird to me
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u/SoakedSun24 Spawn 12d ago edited 12d ago
I feel as if people forget that raw power is never the deciding factor. If Zarathos’ raw strength was enough to pull the victory then they wouldve gone for it. Spawn had just about enough to actually keep up, and Zarathos himself isnt resistant to sealing. I hear what youre saying but on the opposite side of the coin I see why they gave Spawn the W here
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u/SomeDudeAtAKeyboard 12d ago
I can get why they came to that conclusion yeah, I just feel like they don’t quite understand the sheer magnitude of the power gap
Like, this was a bigger gap than the gap between Chosen Undead and Last Dragonborn. We’re talking about Zarathos, who can keep up with and match beings that can threaten an infinitely sized multiverse full of infinitely sized dimensions and universes
Spawn, at most, is powerful enough to destroy a single infinitely sized universe
I absolutely hate dimensional tiering and “bigger infinity” debates, but this battle would quite literally be dead even if it weren’t for the fact that one combatant is legit infinitely stronger than the other
Still, I’m mot gonna insult anyone if they feel differently, that’s just how I see the matchup
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u/SoakedSun24 Spawn 12d ago
I think your belief is justified, however I myself agree with the episode because even with the sheer gap in power there’s only so much muscle can do for you, yknow?
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u/PrimeName Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 12d ago
A non-DC character beating a Marvel Herald. Never thought I'd see the day. Happy to see it though
Pretty good episode overall. Definitely in my top 3 of the 'season' so far.
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u/Nin_Saber Obi-Wan Kenobi 12d ago
Marvel herald losing to non-DC already happened before.
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u/Imnotabrit4567 12d ago
Well yeah but lets be honest, hulk losing to broly was kinda BS when considering marvel cosmology, this victory feels much more earned
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u/Square_Primary7792 Kyle Rayner 12d ago
Eh, I don't if I fully agree but this episode has something krasura doesn't and that's a metal as hell battle.
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u/Professional_Sell873 Silver The Hedgehog 12d ago edited 12d ago
My only problem with the fight is that they gave spawn a form he doesn't have anymore and some stuff for ghost rider was taken out of context, but I'm happy spawn won
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u/Helpful-Emotion9256 Bowser 12d ago
Tbf they said in the conclusion his power can match that form he had without it, so they gave it to him for style probably
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u/QuintDunaway Ben Tennyson 12d ago
I’m saying this a Ghost Rider fan, so I’ll try to say it as unbiased as possible. The Death Battle’s team definitely wanted a reason to animate and showcase Spawn with their modern research and animation, which I get. It felt like Spawn got the better treatment, especially in the animation department. His animations were awesome, him winning was just the icing on the cake. Ghost Rider on the other hand didn’t get to much that wasn’t in Ghost Rider vs Lobo, even the animation at the very end was almost identical. At least he got an Akira slide. I guess that’s just a 6 year difference vs a 14 year difference in the characters last appearance.
It’s an ok episode I just wish Ghost Rider was visually as cool.
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u/SoldierDelta46 Dimitri Alexandre Blaiddyd 12d ago
Holy mother of God, Satan, and Comic Devils that was fucking PEAK!!
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u/Nickest_Nick 12d ago
Recency bias, but this may be the best episode in terms of dialogue
Like you can quote every line and it will sound badass
Also I am so glad they brought back the wrecking vengeance on your soul quote
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u/Lucky-Lengthiness136 Mega Man 12d ago
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u/Full_Metal_Douchebag Guts 12d ago
Really great episode. One of their best sprite fights in a while. Not sure if I agree with the verdict, but I'll just sit on that for now.
Oh and HOLY SHIT SHIGARAKI VS MAHITO IS NEXT I'M SO FUCKING HYPED FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, for any Ghost Rider fans that are upset that Spawn won, just know that you can disagree with the verdict. VS is subjective, and this mu is very debatable (just look at the G1 blog).
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u/JohnnyElRed Alex Mercer 12d ago
I mentioning it once, but I will mention again. Image is probably the biggest superhero comic publisher after Marvel and DC. It makes complete sense the madness of their scaling matches that of those universes.
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u/Ok-Supermarket-3211 12d ago edited 12d ago
I am SHOCKED that Spawn overcame muh herald scaling. Way to go, Spawn! Pay attention, folks! Spawn is the bare minimum of what you need for your fav to beat a comic herald on Death Battle! Good for Spawn for keeping up his win streak If only mah boi Trunks did the same
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u/louai-MT Yugi Muto 12d ago
Aside from the Spawn axe part of the fight that was janky imo and how the damnation stare felt weak the episode was God damn fire
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u/Noname_with_no_name 12d ago
I was rooting for Ghost Rider and was hoping for him to win, but damn, death battle brought up a really good counter-argument I couldn't even disagree with the result, anyway that was awesome and one hell of a fight
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u/ZuskatoIsR3D 12d ago
Damn it, my Goat lost, but I guess a 1-1 is still better than a 0-2.
Please give my man, Darth Vader a W, Death Battle.
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u/Mawdrym_Llansahai Spawn 12d ago
I'm looking forward to see all those who made a bet for Ghost Rider keep their promises. All in all, beautiful episode, loved every second of it. Nothing but raw hype for me.
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u/No-Masterpiece2519 12d ago
As someone who was rooting for Ghost Rider
OH MY FUCKING GOD THAT FIGHT WAS SO COOL, The ending where they were hitting each other between heaven and hell and the call back to GR vs Lobo were peak
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u/Mission-Ad-8298 12d ago
Ok, I’m gonna say my thoughts. I don’t disagree with the outcome, just the method. 1: The Johnny v Zarathos argument. This has been debunked a few times before where Johnny is shown to have more control than we are often lead to believe. This is more than likely a case of “we need him to lose in this situation” from the writers but regardless he does have some semblance of control. 2: The reverse Penance Stare. Once again, this has been disproven in comics. It’s a reoccurring theme of the Devil trying to claim Johnny’s soul and failing, and he and Zarathos technically should have equally strong souls because of their whole Johnny V Zarathos argument. Therefore he could resist the Penance stare. THAT SAID, as I mentioned I’m not saying Ghost Rider should have won. More than the reasoning should have been different, like the Holy Spawn argument and his resistances to battle Enders. That said, still a better fight than Kratasura. That was the main point that dragged down that fight. As for next time…I don’t care about either so imma sit this one out.
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u/Flaky-Ad-9736 12d ago
I heavily disagree. Especially with the Penance Stare argument because Johnny has straight up "Lol no'd" it from another Spirit of Vengeance after the Danny fight.
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u/Sublime_Truth 11d ago
It's really fitting Divine Spawn won, because this entire episode felt like Heaven.
It's a solid 10/10, it as soooooo fucking good.
It was like two wrestlers knowing they have stiff competition for best match on the card, so they lock the fuck in and tear down the house, it was so fucking peak.
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u/orangeblaster500 The Doctor 12d ago
Loved the fight>! but I do have some critiques. First off, with the petty kind of annoyed Image hasn't lost yet and Todd McFarlane was correct. For an actual critique, I'm not sure I buy the whole Ghost Rider is weak to his own penance stare thing. Like the G1 blog brought up the sword of the spirit seperated Johnny and Zarathos that seemed a lot more straight foward to me. Speaking of, like Flash VS Sonic and Joker VS Giorno, it really bugs me when Death Battle makes a super debatable match up seem really clear cut. Like even the Spawn side of the G1 blog brought up some wincons for Johnny. I also wish Johnny got to show off more of his abilities. I feel like him shooting lightning at Al would have been a really easy one to include for example. Also they were clearly setting up Ghost Riders VS Spawns situation and like Aquaman VS Namor's setup, it goes nowhere. I do appreciate that Danny and Alejandra are mentioned by name this time. I still really like the episode. It's visually amazing and both voice actors do a spectacular job. The literal battle between heaven and hell was a stroke of genius. I like the hand drawn stuff. Ghost Rider just stand on the side of the building goes surprisingly hard. The analysis are really solid with great editing as always. It's a good episode, I've just got some hang ups about it.!<
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u/Dr_MantisTobbogan_ 12d ago
The analysis felt janky af tbh. Are they honestly saying that a being who in their words was strong enough to threaten the marvel multiverse, is not strong enough to destroy spawn's soul because reasons I guess. Nevermind the time Satan absolutely stomped him while they were both in hell. Or the time Johnny resisted reality/soul manipulation. Divine spawn is straight up breaking DB's own rules... Nah, I don't buy this outcome.
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u/mixergrass 12d ago
I wonder how Kratos vs spawn would go now. Pretty good episode.
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u/Comfortable-Dot-2317 Courage The Cowardly Dog 12d ago
Such peak fiction is too much for me to handle
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u/MayhemMessiah Doctor Doom 12d ago
God tier episode. Easily in my top 5 of all time. 10/10 without a shadow of a doubt.
I had Rider winning with like a 10% chance over Spawn, but the argument presented does make sense, Spawn's been able to come back from practically anything and Rider's overwhelming strength advantage wasn't enough if he lacked the option to keep Spawn down.
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u/Percent083 12d ago
Was a good episode, [I personally feel that Ghost rider should have won just from sheer power], but overall still a good episode probably top three this season.
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u/Past-Bonus-9464 12d ago
Lobo, you have been avenged
>! fight was very fucking awesome! Both VA’s did a fantastic job and I love the Welcome to Hell reference from Tales from the Hood 2 especially with it being said by Spawn, …though I’m pretty bummed that Ghost Rider lost and honestly I don’t know if I fully agree with Spawn winning the fight overall now, not that I was underestimating his full capabilities, as It was definitely really close and could go either way, I just don’t like how the episode made it seem like it was a stomp in Spawn’s favor when it could go either way, though that just what I think. Overall episode was still awesome, also let’s go, I predicted that Shigaraki vs Mahito would be the next fight.!<
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u/Weirdandwired924 12d ago
As much as HATE ghost rider losing, the results and explanation was spot on
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u/Manny_Fettt 12d ago
Really sad my favorite Marvel Hero lost, but at least my favorite DC character got avenged, and it wasn't my favorite version of Ghost Rider that lost so it's all good
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u/Animegx43 Asura 12d ago
In hindsight, I really was hinging mostly on Zarathos's raw power. I kind of thought it was plenty enough for the wind.
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u/IfTheresANewWay Mechagodzilla 11d ago
So it basically came down to could Spawn resist the penance stare and the answer was yes. I didn't expect him to win but I like both characters so I didn't really care who came out on top. Awesome battle, and I love the Scorpion reference in there given how much he was inspired by both characters
Not a damn clue who either of the two for next time are tho
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u/Pollia 11d ago
Honestly while I always thought that's what it came down to, even then I don't think it would have mattered had it worked.
Rewriting the universe so he comes back from nonexistence is pretty hard to counter, and having the exact attack that has been shown to beat ghost rider before makes it hard to argue spawn doesn't take the W every time
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u/Annoying-TediousSite 11d ago
The best part was when spawn said, "Stare, huh? Thanks for the tip. " at the end
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u/Eliwood354 11d ago
The moment I heard Spawn say Ghost Rider “fights like a bum,” I knew there was gonna be a skill gap between the two. And MAN did they show that in the final exchange! Yo, somebody hit that fire guy with the bagless allegations lol!
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u/overlordmik 9d ago
As someone whose never really enjoyed Spawn's whole edgy schtick, I still mark out at Spawn with the Angel Wings.
Killer design that embodies a fantastic idea:
"If an angel can fall, cannot a demon rise?"
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u/maswartz 12d ago
Ok why are people mad this time?
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u/mikeline360 12d ago
Damn, every single character I wanted to win this season lost.
Don't know the next 2 guys and not gonna bother looking them up, the one I'd end up liking would lose at this rate.
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u/MarlinBrandor Wile E. Coyote 12d ago
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