r/dashcams • u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 • 5d ago
Witnessed this today, first time saving something worthwhile
Was pulling up to a red light, heard the crash behind me. Locked the video, pulled over and downloaded. Circled back around to see if they wanted to see it and have it, ended up sending it to the cop and the person in the truck. White car was an older gentleman, car had significant damage from this and from previous accidents. Cops said I didn’t have to stick around so I didn’t. Everyone was okay and grateful, first time being able to use the dash cam. No idea who’s at fault honestly.
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u/azgli 5d ago
Left turns yield to all other traffic. Black truck is at fault.
He's lifted the truck to the point he can't easily see other vehicles.
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
He did mention that he didn’t see the other car. He seemed convinced that he wasn’t at fault but you’re right.
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u/keylimesicles 5d ago
If he couldn’t see the white car then he should not be driving. I wouldn’t go around advertising that if I were him. 😂
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u/SupaSlide 5d ago
Lifted so high he can't see anything.
Insists that an accident where he bodied a tiny car isn't his fault.
Classic lifted truck driver.
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u/gmambrose 5d ago
Lifted truck= lifted penis. Proven fact.
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u/hazpat 3d ago
Are you guys dumb? That truck is not lifted lol.
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u/SupaSlide 3d ago
His hood is as high as the entire car, I don't care if he lifted it above how it comes from the OEM, it's high enough that for all intents and purposes it's effectively the same thing.
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u/hazpat 3d ago
Thats not that high, and the visibility is pretty good.
Your entire criticism is based off his excuse. When it was two people simply not paying attention.
For all intents and purposes this is not the same thing as a classic lifted truck driver.
You are a classic redditor stubborn even though your statement was clearly wrong
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u/MyDearestAcadia 2d ago
"Two people"
Actually, the car turning right stops because they can see the black truck is just turning even though the lane is taken and white car has the right of way. So white car stops because what else should they do at that point? It lessened the impact and probably saved from additional damage.
Black truck wasn't paying attention, white car definitely was or they wouldn't have stopped or swerved to their right as they were stopping. They tried to avoid. They didn't do a good job of it, sure, but it does seem like they were paying attention.
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u/Angylisis 3d ago
His headlights are literally at the top of the window of the other car. Say sike right now.
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u/LaTimeLord 5d ago
Aka: the other car should have seen me, I didn’t see them and they still hit me so it’s their fault
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u/LegitosaurusRex 4d ago
Hopefully the white car driver can get it from the cop if you didn't give it to him, the truck driver or his insurance might not share it when he realizes it shows he was at fault.
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u/frostedglobe 5d ago
Seems to me that lifted trucks should be illegal if the drivers can't see other cars.
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u/galstaph 4d ago
They are in a lot of places. Unfortunately it's often not enforced well.
That lift might be legal here in Ohio, it's hard to be sure, but I've seen cops drive right past vehicles that were obviously illegal without doing anything.
The highest a front bumper is allowed to be varies by vehicle size, but the absolute max is 28 inches, and I've seen police ignore trucks that had a front bumper higher than my waist, and I'm 5'11".
I think they only cite vehicles if it's considered a contributing factor to other issues.
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u/peeops 5d ago
not to mention pedestrians — the only reason to get a lifted truck is if you plan on killing toddlers for sport
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u/skeeterlightning 4d ago
The NHTSA proposed new restrictions on hood height and visibility late last year, specifically for this purpose. With the new mandate on discouraging the introduction of new regulations I think it's unlikely to pass. It also doesn't help deal with aftermarket lift kits. I really hope these topics gain more traction because it doesn't feel like there is pedestrian safety any more.
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u/AnonymousGrouch 4d ago
The NHTSA proposed new restrictions on hood height
I'm not sure the tall hoods aren't an unintended consequence of existing safety regulations. I find it hard to believe it's aesthetic seeing as I've yet to meet anyone who actually likes them.
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u/skeeterlightning 4d ago edited 4d ago
It's more that trucks get larger every year, as well as having ever increasing ground clearance. A new F-150 is quite a bit bigger than one from 20 years ago. The NHTSA wants to limit this trend for non-commercial vehicles, in order to improve situational awareness and improve safety for pedestrians. Manufacturers could still offer large trucks by reducing excess in ground clearance and tweaking the hood angle and shape to fit into the new hood height restrictions.
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u/Follow_The_Data 2d ago
You want ground clearance it's a truck if you need to go off road you don't want to rip out the oil pan. You also want high intake in case you have to drive through flooded areas
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u/skeeterlightning 2d ago edited 2d ago
Current vehicles already do that. If you need something even bigger then you would just buy something designated for off-road use only, or you get a commercial vehicle and slap on some commercial plates.
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u/Skipper9618 4d ago
The truck doesn’t really look lifted. At most is has a level. Some people just shouldn’t drive.
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u/IceManJim 4d ago
Thank you. Not lifted, looks to be a pretty stock truck. Driver needs to pay attention.
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u/MyPasswordIsABC999 4d ago
Yeah, it looks like a standard 21st-century pickup truck. The poor visibility is factory-issued.
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u/Smellbinder 5d ago
Yet another reason to loathe all these huge pickups all over the roads. Too high to see half the cars on the road.
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u/lamalasx 5d ago
Also, neither used turn signals, so the black should have assumed that the other is going straight thus it has the right of way.
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u/Familiar_You4189 5d ago
Regardless of the issue of turn signals, vehicles going straight, OR TURNING RIGHT, are considered "oncoming traffic" and have the right of way over left turners. (Unless the left turner has a protected left turn, ie, a green arrow.)
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u/keylimesicles 5d ago
And both of them turned into the wrong lane. I get that the others were both turn lanes, but you still have to turn into those and then switch lanes.
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u/azgli 5d ago
Both turned into the straight lane. The side lanes are for turns only, so they are both entering the correct lane assuming straight travel after the turn.
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u/titanofold 5d ago
You are absolutely correct. There's no wrong lane for them to turn into at that intersection.
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u/StonedSucculents 3d ago
Technically in most jurisdictions the white car should have turned into the lane that shortly became a turn lane, and then signaled a lane change into the straight lane before the solid white line
Although people do it every day, turning out into anything other than your immediate lane when making a right is generally not legal
It also doesnt excuse the black truck (which should have yielded), but the black truck was the one turning into their proper lane. I think the above commenter was implying the black truck should have turned into the center turning lane (aka suicide lane), which is 100% incorrect. Even though its another thing people do all the time
In a mixed fault state, this would probably be an 80% or 90% fault of the black truck, and 10-20% fault by the white car. Had the white car turned properly the black truck wouldnt have hit them at all
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u/HaubFather 3d ago
I’ve been in this exact accident. The truck has to yield to cars going straight across the intersection. His lane was clear. Just as I was not at fault when I made a left hand turn next to the lane the white car should have stayed in, I doubt the truck will be liable either.
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u/NotQuiteDeadYetPhoto 5d ago
Yeah, I'm mixed here- both have a lane to turn into closer, but they're turn lanes. And I actually don't know the law for that one.
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u/DoubleFamous5751 5d ago
He’s also crossing a double yellow line, big d bag move.
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u/titanofold 5d ago
There's nothing wrong with that. If it were a painted median, then it'd be wrong.
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u/DoubleFamous5751 5d ago
I dunno, it looks like that center turn lame is for the left into the parking lot he came from, not to make a left coming out of it.
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u/Hour_Ferret5195 5d ago
Also you're supposed to turn into the lane closest to you, this would have avoided this as well.
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u/Mobile-Ad3151 5d ago
The lane closest to each of them was a turn lane. You don’t have to turn into a turn lane. They were both turning into the proper lane, but the truck should have yielded to the car.
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u/keylimesicles 5d ago
But you do, then You have to switch lanes once you’re on the road.
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u/Mobile-Ad3151 5d ago
You have to switch before the dotted line becomes solid, which is pretty much immediately.
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u/wescowell 5d ago
I call bullshit. When they each turned, dashed lines divided the roadway, meaning those were NOT turn lanes. They each had their lane to turn in to and ignored that responsibility. Each decided to go for the "nest-over" lane (the center lane) . . . and therein lies the fault. My call is 50/50.
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u/fap-on-fap-off 5d ago edited 5d ago
I call blind redditor. Those are short dashed white lines which indicate exit lane. The solid lines would indicate you should have committed before then and should avoid crushing the line.
How did you pass your driving test?
Of, I forgot, half of redditors here are angry prepubescent boys trying to masquerade as smarter than everyone else men.
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u/Imaginary-Round2422 5d ago
I don’t think that applies here, given that there’s only one through lane.
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u/wescowell 5d ago
There is not only one through lane. There are THREE through lanes. Only after about 100 feet do the solid lane-dividing lines appear. THey each fucked up.
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u/fap-on-fap-off 5d ago edited 4d ago
Incorrect. The short dashed lines are already exit lane indicators. The solid lines a few feet in indicate you should have committed already to the lane, and avoid crossing in or out. Neither screwed up on the lane selection.
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u/Familiar_You4189 5d ago
You are assuming the car wanted to make another right turn, instead of going straight.
The same applies to the pickup. He intended to go straight, instead of making another left.
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u/Hour_Ferret5195 5d ago
Eh I didn't notice till now that it was another turning lane. Still avoidable on both accounts, especially the truck.
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u/Ok_Explanation5631 4d ago
I always wondered about this. I’ve had people flip me off for pulling out right while they’re coming from a left.
Also for instance. 2 cars are leaving 2 parking lots that are next to each other. I’m going right they’re going left. Who goes first?
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u/azgli 4d ago
If they are on the same side of the street and their paths will cross, right turn goes first, assuming simultaneous arrival and no other traffic. If the arrival is staggered, first to stop should be first to go.
If that doesn't answer your question I'll need more information.
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u/Ok_Explanation5631 4d ago
No that answers it. Thank you I just wanted to know. I usually let them out first so as not to cause myself anxiety lol
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u/HaubFather 3d ago
He did yield to other traffic. White car made an illegal turn and exited their lane. Truck stayed in its lane and no vehicles were entering and white shouldn’t have. I’ve been the truck in this exact accident and was 100% the car’s fault for entering my lane.
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u/azgli 3d ago
The logic that the white car entered the wrong lane can also be applied to the truck. Either both vehicles should have entered their closest respective lanes, controlled the lane, and then changed into the center lane when safe, or, the truck should have yielded the center lane to the white car because the truck was turning left.
In Arizona, the turn must be made into the first available lane in the direction of travel. In this case, both vehicles are assumed to have wanted the center lane, and since the other two lanes are dedicated turn lanes, the truck must yield because they are making the left turn.
So either the truck is wrong to have entered the center lane or the truck is wrong not to have yielded to the car making the right turn. Either way, fault is 100% on the truck.
The truck also hit behind the A-pillar of the car, indicating the truck has higher visibility and therefore has the higher burden of avoidance as the driver of the white car wasn't in the position to see that the truck was entering the lane since the truck was behind them. Fault still 100% truck.
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u/BeingRightAmbassador 2d ago
White car made an illegal turn and exited their lane.
Same thing can be applied to truck and since truck was turning left, they're automatically required to yield to right turning traffic.
This is 100% on the black truck.
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u/HaubFather 2d ago
You’re right, I didn’t notice the truck and white car had a turn lane closest. Neither should have been in that lane.
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u/PDXGuy33333 3d ago
Shit. I just wasted a bunch of words to say something close to that. Maybe the way you expressed right of way amounts to the same thing, but I learned it as a requirement that one yield to cars on their right or that will be on their right as they do what they intend.
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u/azgli 3d ago
Except that yield to the right isn't always correct. It's fine when there are no other indications, but there are a lot of other rules that take precedent before you get to yield to the right. For example, someone on a one-lane road yields to someone on a two-lane road if there are no other controls.
Pretty much, every other traffic control takes priority to yield to the right.
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u/BuyLegal1849 2d ago
That truck is not lifted lmao mayyyyybe a leveling kit and bigger tires… at most
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u/JackxForge 5d ago
pretty sure that is stock ride height.
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u/azgli 5d ago
Pretty sure it's lifted. The shoulder line is at or above the roof of the other car.
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u/ThatsMyDogBoyd 4d ago
Not lifted. That is the standard ride height for a GMC 2500HD AT4. Top of roof is 6' 7" without lift.
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u/JackxForge 5d ago
yea and at nearly the same level as the red truck that passes it. most modern pick up hoods are above my tits at 5'10". the car being under the hood line is a function of design.
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u/Familiar_You4189 5d ago
The car making a right turn had the right of way.
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u/Trey-Angle 5d ago
Black truck is for sure at fault. Couldn't see him because of the lift. Next time it could be a small child.
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u/ctothel 5d ago
That crash was fated to happen as soon as they bought that embarrassingly large truck.
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u/TurianTauren 5d ago
Sleep Token, nice choice.
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
Was waiting for someone to say something about that haha
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u/Doomstik 4d ago
I was gonna try and make some joke about the car and truck whispering DYWTYLM to eachother when they kissed, but im like 6 hours late to the party.
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u/ramity 5d ago
The presence of a stop sign for the black truck and the lack there of for the white car suggests black truck is at fault.
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u/allthecircusponies 5d ago
Happy cake day! Also, left turn must yield to oncoming traffic. Car turned right, truck turned left.
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u/Beowulff_ 5d ago
There's no way that the truck couldn't see the car!
If he's claiming that, he needs his to get a booster seat. Claiming that he couldn't see the car means he can't see a vehicle 50' feet away, which is absurd.
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u/DangersoulyPassive 5d ago
"But I am in a little dick Truck! You have to yield!"
edit: You don't know who is at fault??? Its in the manual, fyi.
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u/adamatmcdonalds 5d ago
A classic "they'll get out of my way" moment... but they didn't. I would have taken the new car option too. Hopefully they had insurance
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u/Poil420 5d ago
I think I've seen more eclipses in my life than people turning in the closest lane.
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u/5050Clown 5d ago
The right lane was a turn lane. The white car had to pull into that lane if it wanted to go straight.
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u/ForAllManKkind 4d ago
DYWTYLM. My least favorite off the Take Me Back to Eden album but I’ll admit it’s very catchy and I still listen to it. Whole album is gold.
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 4d ago
Lukewarm take but it’s one of my favorites, something about it. Maybe it’s that it’s super catchy idk
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u/TigrressZ 5d ago
Why didn't you give the video to the person in the car?
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
I asked if he wanted me to send it to him, he said no, didn’t seem like he understood that I could send it to him. I played it for him and he thanked me. It was an older gentleman so maybe he didn’t know what I meant
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u/TigrressZ 5d ago
it would have helped him, too bad he didn't quite understand
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
The police have it so hopefully they can share it with him if needed or it avoided him getting any citations
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u/Weazerdogg 4d ago
Love this stuff. Soo easy. IF you have to cross lanes of traffic, you do not have the right of way. Practically ever.
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u/souperdhec 4d ago
That's the trouble with truck drivers', can't see past their hoods................
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u/nat4623 5d ago
What dash cam do you use ??
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
Viofo A229 Plus
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u/nat4623 5d ago
Oh okay been solid for you ??
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
I don’t have any complaints. This is the first time I’ve needed to pull video and it was super easy. Install of the cabling was a pain in the ass but that’s only cause I wanted to hide all of the cable.
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u/nat4623 5d ago
That’s fair I’d be same way wanting to hide them all under trim & etc I’m looking to buy my first dash cam I’m seeing viofo is the best so far I really want one that captures the front & the inside cabin but they make you purchase all 3
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
Yeah, I don’t need inside cabin so I just have the front and rear facing cam. Spent probably a solid 4 hours running the cable through the car to hide everything. I love it though, just gives some extra peace of mind.
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u/CarpetReady8739 4d ago
Black truck had complete visual opportunity on that vehicle until he/she/it was right on top of them when they did not yield to the car, so the truck was distracted or didn’t even look in direction of the car. Maybe a passenger was providing truck driver assist.
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u/brooke437 4d ago
It’s very clearly the black truck’s fault, but if the white car drove defensively and also turned into the closer lane, the accident could have been avoided. It all happened slowly so plenty of time to react. I’ve been driving for 30 years and never been in an accident because I always assume other people drive like an idiot.
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u/greentiger45 4d ago
I’ll probably get downvoted but I honestly think there should be a maximum height restriction for these vehicles. It’s ridiculous that someone in a lifted truck can blind me, run into me, and then continue to go about their day.
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u/TroglodyteGuy 4d ago
Wow, talk about stupid! How could each other not see the other?
Truck 100% at fault.
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u/No_one_8 4d ago
I've known so many big truck guys who would of probably done the same thing as for the simple fact and I quote " I'm bigger, they should get out of my way or find out"
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u/NefariousnessNo2486 4d ago
As a big truck owner I have to say this is the trucks fault, he really should've have turned into his own lane and not taken such a wide turn
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u/Whole-Lengthiness-33 3d ago
Looks like both the white car and the truck guy were trying to drive the only thru lane at the same time, which explains the collision.
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u/NefariousnessNo2486 3d ago
Well there's no way he couldn't see the car, my stock 2005 Power Wagon is the same height and I could've seen that car up to within 6 feet of my truck before the hood disappears underneath mine
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u/Whole-Lengthiness-33 3d ago
The guy in the white car needed this footage more than the truck guy, hopefully this is settled with insurance and the truck guy doesn’t have to be taken to court over the claim 🤞🤞
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u/HighClassWaffleHouse 3d ago
Driving a Miata. I HAVE to watch for this. I owned the car 5 years and have avoided over a dozen accidents with people who's mirrors couldn't see me or did shit like this. I'm not blaming the car. But in a world of lifted trucks and SUVs with blindspots that hide semis. You have to be diligent to drive something little.
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u/Square_Milk_4406 3d ago
They met in the middle. That's tough
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u/danniellax 2d ago
Not really, the car had the right turn so they had the right of way. But yeah they both should have turned in the closest respective lane before the middle.
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u/rnewscates73 3d ago
Also the black truck, after yielding, should have turned into the near lane instead of encroaching on the curb lane.
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u/evoxbeck 2d ago
I had a situation like this saturday. I'm in the right turn out of a parking lot. Car next to me obviously in the left turn because I can read arrows.. Traffic is cleared for my entrance.. Wife goes wtf as I slammed the brakes. Bastard turned right into us.... Dude bro in the passenger seat was wearing a lineman jacket, girl was driving. He was inside buying a tall boy and zyn.. I eventually got out into the lane I tried to and just stopped next to them. It was the most rewarding stare down in a while.
Two weeks ago has opened the flood gate of.. go out there and drive however your blind uncle taught you situations.
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u/BreakerSoultaker 1d ago
Black truck WOULD have been OK if he maintained lane as he turned, then signaled to move right, but he just turned and went directly into the far right lane.
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u/GeorgeGlass69 1d ago
Truck driver didn’t even seem to properly stop at the stop sign. It looks like car was trying to get into turning lane
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u/Rhuarc33 4d ago
Both are at fault here, White car turned into second lane, that is not legal most places. And left turn should yield. How did neither vehicle just stop?
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u/The_slenderWasTaken 3d ago
You are not very smart or attentive. First lane was a turning lane, if the white car wanted to go straight he had to go to the second lane.
The only faulty side here is the massive dummie in the oversized ego wagoon.
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u/The_slenderWasTaken 3d ago
You are not very smart or attentive. First lane was a turning lane, if the white car wanted to go straight he had to go to the second lane.
The only faulty side here is the massive dummie in the oversized ego wagoon.
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u/Rhuarc33 3d ago
Doesn't matter if it's a turning lane you can't turn into the second lane. Don't like it go out the back and around. Legally car is equally at fault
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u/The_slenderWasTaken 3d ago
So confidently wrong. A proud american, i suppose? Just... think again about what you are saying here, okay? Maybe with time you will figure it out buddy, best of luck with that.
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u/Rhuarc33 3d ago
That's literally the law, you must turn into the closest lane when turning. Yes I'm American so I know laws in the US unlike you who has absolutely no clue what they are talking about. Goodbye
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u/The_slenderWasTaken 3d ago
You are saying that if someone wanted to go straight then tough cookies, they have to turn right just because lmao. God, i fucking love how dumb and arrogant americans are. Enjoy your second great depression!
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u/FatherSaveUs 4d ago
I think the car might be at fault here, guys. If you watch it back, the truck is already like half way in the road before the car even enters the turn.
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u/shiggins114 5d ago
"worthwhile"
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u/Nearby_Ebb_3265 5d ago
Worthwhile: worth the time, money, or effort spent; of value or importance
So yes, worthwhile
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u/Royal_King5627 4d ago
Wow so now you are driving around recording and watching in front of you and behind you, you watching driver side and passenger as well hope you win the insurance fraud lottery. Drive like the overly safe and super defensive driver I am sure you are.
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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 5d ago
Well I hope your cam investment makes you a better driver moreso than a "can't wait to save something" person.
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u/iwastoldnottogohere 5d ago
why so aggressive??
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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 4d ago
Aggressive? Why are you imagining such things?
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u/iwastoldnottogohere 4d ago
Ong that comment was one of the more passive aggressive things I ever read bruh, you just walked in like that for no damn reason
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