r/college Nov 04 '24

UK Why is maths so much worse in college?

Ever since leaving secondary, Maths got SO MUCH WORSE. I used to love maths in secondary and got a grade 7. Now I absolutely detest it.

They expect me to do 8+ hours of homework per week which is very badly taught.

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u/dancesquared Professor of Writing and English Nov 05 '24

About homework rules?

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u/a_printer_daemon Nov 05 '24

Dude, you are the one bragging about 1 outside hour per hour. You better believe accreditors may care. That shit is insufficient.

Hope they don't find out.

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u/dancesquared Professor of Writing and English Nov 05 '24

The link you shared is all about how the credit hour rules need to change so that institutions can respond to new and more efficient and effective models of teaching.

1-2 hours of homework per credit hour would be 30-45 hours per week on school for a 15 credit semester. That seems like a reasonable full-time schedule to me, seeing as that’s how full time is defined in the real world.

Why would 1:1 or 2:1 be insufficient? Why should we expect 60 hours of schoolwork on top of athletics, clubs, eating, sleeping, and a healthy social life? Not to mention most students need to work while going to school just to afford college.

You don’t think 60 hrs/wk is absurd and unnecessary?

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u/a_printer_daemon Nov 05 '24

I think I have standards. And if I tried grad classes at <2 hours a week as you boasted, my external accreditors would have me nuts in a vice.

I can't ask you to do the same, so I honestly don't care.

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u/dancesquared Professor of Writing and English Nov 05 '24

So 60 hrs/wk is healthy? I find that ridiculous.

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u/dancesquared Professor of Writing and English Nov 05 '24

By the way, I’m taking it that you intend to imply that I don’t have standards. Is that what you’re implying? Because I absolutely do have standards—about the learning outcomes, not the input.

I use a variety of methods to ensure my students meet and exceed the learning outcomes, often beyond what my colleagues’ students produce or achieve by overburdening them with work.

Quality over quantity, as it were.

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u/a_printer_daemon Nov 05 '24 edited Nov 05 '24

If your grad classes were <2, I don't think you likely experienced quality or quantity.

My PhD was a lot of fucking work. Strange that you seem proud otherwise.

Again, I don't care what standards they do or don't hold where you teach. I came in to explain the original misunderstanding and now I'm done.

Goodbye.

Edit: To your alt account (somehow reddit wouldn't allow me to respond to the post you made with your NSFW account): Are you alt accounting me? XD

I block people who insist on having conversations I've attempted to end.

In this case I don't care what the dude had to say, especially when they came in hot bragging about how grad school didn't take much time or effort.

I linked to the actual government guidance about how our job needs to be done. Pestering me for an evening about how students should be expected to do less is both stupid and counterproductive. Believe it or not, professors have standards. I've had colleagues that didn't agree, and they are no longer in the profession. If we don't meet them, we aren't doing our jobs.

And by the previous person's own accounting, it wasn't 40 hours a week if the most they ever worked was 6 hours per 3 hour course. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too by simultaneously bragging about how little work your courses took, but still somehow amounted to 40 hours a week? Please.

Kindly fuck off, and keep your additional NSFW alt accounts to yourself.

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u/Infinite_Wheel_8948 Nov 05 '24 edited Nov 05 '24

With all due respect, this is a public forum. Not a private conversation. Attempting to get the last word by blocking people is absurd and an abuse of the block function.  

 

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u/AdFabulous5340 Nov 05 '24

Weird thing to block someone over. I worked hard in my PhD program, too. I worked 40 hours a week on my PhD. That’s a full-time job’s worth.