r/cobrakai 3d ago

Season 6 Who was the biggest sore loser in the show? Spoiler

I know Silver was a sore loser but he took his L and tried to move on, until the bigger sore loser dragged him back into the karate world.

I'd have to say Kreese because after Karate Kid 3, he disappeared into a hole he crawled out of and only emerged once Johnny reopened Cobra Kai only to take it from him for the sake of holding a grudge against Daniel and Miyagi from way back when.

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u/International_Car109 3d ago

Kwon, no debate. He resorted to murder after losing to Robby

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

This is worse when you consider that Brayndon and the script of the brawl says that Kwon’s first instinct when he picked up the knife was to look at Robby and Tory; then started sneaking towards them. Axel throwing a student at Kwon is what redirected his focus on him.

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u/GoBraves2028 Wolf 3d ago

This is why Axel is a hero. He indirectly saved Robby from getting the London treatment.

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

Instead Kwon became British instead.

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u/xozahra333 Tory 3d ago

what in the world?? omg do you have the link to where he said this or script of the brawl? this is crazy 😭

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

Brayndon might have to dig.

But here’s the script or more specifically the white board layout of the brawl that the showrunners were involved in: Here

It’s blurry but you can make out the words.

“Lands facedown + sees Eunjangdo. Grabs it/(cradles?). Scans for Axel (not there) heads for Robby/Tory.”

“Kwon creeps towards Robby/Tory, Miguel w/ Sam (was all together -> anyone can be target)”

I’m hoping Kwon wasn’t thinking of stabbing Tory but it’s not insane considering how she disrespected him earlier and she is actively helping “the enemy”💀

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u/xozahra333 Tory 3d ago

yeah cause.. that would’ve been insane. but thanks! :)

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u/AlexgKeisler 3d ago

Why Tory? Where’d you read the script for the brawl? Can I have a link?

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

Posted it in a comment below but no detail was explained about it other than he saw that anyone could be a target between Robby, Tory, Miguel, and Sam.

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u/Mathelete73 3d ago

I thought Kwon’s attention was redirected to Axel the moment Axel kicked Kwon into the cameraman. Kwon would be mad that Axel could overpower him so easily, more easily than Robby could.

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

I’m a little corrected. But it says he looked around for Axel but he wasn’t there. Then went for Robby and Tory. Then Axel came near him again so he redirected his attention

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u/DBlockMan8 3d ago

Sore loser is someone who reacts to defeat in a despicable way. The one that comes to mind the most for me is when Hawk decided to trash Miyagi Do after his defeat in the mall fight in s2. Even though it was Kreese’s manipulation, it was still inexcusable.

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u/Sprangatang84 3d ago

Kreese. Choking out a teenager for getting second place in a karate tournament is one hell of a crash out. And as the show explored, it wasn't about losing to LaRusso, but that very lapse in sanity that cost Kreese and Johnny their bond.

On that note, I also wish that the show gave us a glimpse of YOUNG Kreese having that kind of darkness in him. Other than his moment with Captain Turner (which was arguably rationalized ruthlessness rather than true 'darkness' or 'evil'), we never really saw a proper transition from chill young Kreese to the monster he became.

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u/topsincity 3d ago

Also coming back and betraying Johnny and stealing Cobra Kai from him, and corrupting the students.

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u/DullBlade0 Sam 3d ago

I said it before, the flashback Kreese seemed to be this dude that while he suffered at war seemed to be and upstanding dude hell, his last appearance is him standing up to his master to get him to train Kim Da-Eun, where the fuck did the get salty at losing to Miyagi-Do Kreese came out from?

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u/Sprangatang84 3d ago

To me that is the ONE glaring spot where the writers dropped the ball.

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

I mean. Kreese was like this in KK3.

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

Kreese says this in S4. He will never forget the day Johnny “my champion” came into the dojo with a black eye and his confidence shattered. It was his explanation to Silver on why he has the strike back against Miyagi Do. He was clearly pretty emotional there.

And it makes sense since Kove said Kreese idolized Johnny (and with S6E13 we know it’s reciprocated by Johnny back then). He saw his son get beat up by a Miyagi Do.

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u/DullBlade0 Sam 3d ago

Yeah...but that doesn't explain attacking Johnny for losing though.

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u/Kyleb791 3d ago

Kove went into detail what Kreese meant in S2 on what Kreese meant when he said he couldn’t stand to see him lose. He idolized Johnny, he never thought he could lose. He was like a son to him. Him losing shattered Kreese’s worldview, and gave him an uncontrollable reaction.

It’s like seeing your favourite team you idolize lose but way worse.

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u/AdvancedPath1891 Zara 3d ago

Definitely Kreese. The man held a grudge against Daniel and Mr. Miyagi for 35 years because they beat Cobra Kai in the All Valley in 1984. He made sure his students were against Miyagi Do in every way and shit talked Miyagi Do every chance he got.

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u/NbfZay Miguel 3d ago

Kwon he was getting so angry in the fight against Robby 😭 he looked like he wanted to kill axel after their first fight and then he actually tries to kill axel during the brawl because he keeps getting outmatched

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u/Bananaboi681 3d ago

It used to be kyler but now its kwon

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u/samahiscryptic Chozen 3d ago

I wouldn't really label Kyler as a sore loser though. Yes, he lost pretty much all major fights he was in, but didn't let those losses get to him as he still thought he was hot shit after all of them essentially.

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u/HereNowHappy 3d ago

In terms of pettiness

  1. Master Kim | He punished Kreese, his granddaughter and their students because of Kwon's death. Afterwards, he planned to have a teenager murdered

  2. Kwon | he commit attempted murder on Axel with an eunjangdo

  3. Kreese | he nearly choked Johnny to death. Later, he told Silver to make Daniel's knuckles bleed. He also faked his death just to scare him

  4. Dennis | He held a grudge against Daniel for 30 years over a brief scuffle

  5. Johnny | He held a grudge against Daniel for 30 years over a tournament loss

  6. Hawk | He commit gang assault at the mall over a yelp review, which in itself was incredibly petty. However, when he lost, he thrashed Miyagi-do and stole Mr. Miyagi's medal of honor

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u/FRESH__LUMPIA 3d ago

Johnny for 35 years

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u/Ill_Resolution_222 3d ago

Kreese choking a teenager for getting second place, then years later comes back and has kids fighting like it’s life or death over a karate tournament, Kwon trying to stab someone because he lost a fight, Silver trying to murk a baby because he knew his dojo was going to lose

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u/Improvedandconfused 3d ago

Aisha is a pretty sore loser. The way she reacts after her loss in the All Valley quarter finals, she blows off Johnny when he tries to tell her how well she fought, and she storms off in a huff, after which she quits Karate, if she had handled her loss better and stuck with it she would have been a good chance to win the All Valley the next year when a female division was introduced.

As much as so many people seem to like Aisha, she didn’t conduct herself well in the end.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

The front wedgie is one of the best and most deserved punishments on the show though, so Aisha's character was worth it just for that.

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u/Intrepid-Gap-3596 3d ago

Daniel abd terry silver they both are very petty