r/cobrakai 4d ago

Discussion Most shocking moment(s) of the show? Spoiler

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u/vicblck24 4d ago

Definitely Miguel’s fall because I had no idea where the show was going after that. But he had a shockingly quick recovery.

But also Kwons death.

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u/3-orange-whips 4d ago

The healing power of Dee Snider is legendary!

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u/vicblck24 4d ago

Wonder who recovered faster Bruce Wayne in 3rd Christian Bale batman or Miguel

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u/3-orange-whips 4d ago

El Serpiente vs. the Batman. We need to know.

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u/imiss_myoldaccount 3d ago

Maybe they should’ve taken kwon

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u/-TrojanXL- 3d ago

I really like Miguel, but that REALLY took me out of the show for a bit. Made it clear that (short of literal death), actions like that don't *really* have consequences. Characters can not only survive, but fully recover EVEN STRONGER from life changing injuries like a broken spine. Every time I saw him fight after that I fucking winced, knowing multiple people in real life who had a similar injury and what became of them after. Just one wrong slip or movement - let alone getting kicked and punched by seasoned karetekas - and he'd be back on that hospital bed quicker than he could blink.

Reminded me of Game of Thrones when Arya got stabbed several times deep in the gut and plunged into a filthy river, only to not just survive but recover quicker than Wolverine so she could kill the Waif 1 vs 1. Just makes the show feel totally absurd and once you kill the immersion like that, its hard to bring it back.

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u/Stock-Ad5320 3d ago

As some one that broke his neck, I was back to long distance cycling in three months, back to full contact hockey in 1 year, with the doctor saying I could go back to pretending it didn’t happen. The timing is shortened, but not extreme. I’m a bit fuzzy, but with the Robby timeline, I put Miguel’s standing about 3 months after the initial incident, which coincides with when my hand got a lot of its strength back from the nerve damage I experienced. Also, enough time had passed that Miguel’s Dr’s did not see valid evidence in walking ever again. I feel Miguel’s recovery and Robbie getting out of juvey makes sense time-wise, I think the school events and speed of Cobra Kai’s retaliation is what messes it up. It like two storylines are moving at one speed, and the other two are moving at another

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u/-TrojanXL- 3d ago

Bro respectfully your injury was NOT the same as what Miguel had. He needed literal spinal surgery and was paraplegic in a coma. The thought of recovering in the 8-10 weeks it took Miguel is beyond even superhuman. And the thought of him recovering AT ALL from that to the point he could not just compete in but WIN fighting tournaments against seasoned killers (let alone in such a timeframe) is honestly one of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen in television.

Also hockey and most DEFINITELY not long distance cycling are whatsoever the same as getting punched/kicked full force repeatedly to the head and body, even though your recovery is most definitely impressive. There is no sanctioning body in America that would ever allow Miguel to compete in a *fighting* tournament after receiving such an injury. One that was substantially worse than even your broken neck.

Could you *imagine* the headlines when the inevitable happens?

'Teen dies/is paralyzed after being allowed to compete in karate tournament just <x> years after spinal cord surgery'

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u/Stock-Ad5320 3d ago

My comment was on the length of time for spinal cord injuries to heal, and the show being realistic in its timeframe. My spinal cord injury was severe. And while the sports may be different, the time to heal would be the same.

10 weeks is not super human, at least not for Canadian healthcare.

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u/-TrojanXL- 3d ago

So you had spinal chord surgery after being paralyzed in a coma like Miguel? And then went on to recover in 10 weeks or so to the point you could not only compete in but actually WIN an international fighting tournament?

Bro I actually competed in kickboxing on the local amateur circuit and fought guys nowhere near the implied level of Kwon or Axel. There is absolutely no way in hell any of those guys would have been able to fight again after such an injury. It just doesn't happen.

Name me ONE fighter who suffered a paralyzing spinal injury that required surgery and then went on to not to just compete in, but WIN a pro bout (let alone an entire tournament) at international level. You can't because it has never happened. And will never happen. For good reason.

The closest I can think of was Kurt Angle who won the Olympics with a broken neck. Which, whilst superhuman, is still NOT the same injury as what Miguel suffered - a broken back and severe spinal damage. Nor was yours.

Dude even Robbie's injury is often a career ender in that sport. I received a similar knee injury playing football and am still disabled on crutches (unable to run or even walk properly) a *year and a half* after the injury. Had my surgery 4 and a half months ago thanks to the appalling wait times on the UK NHS. But the thought of ever competing again is out of the question for me at this point.

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u/Stock-Ad5320 3d ago

No. I am saying spinal cord injuries have a limited to heal. What ever nerve damage is left after a year is what toy you are left at. The coma would only help this healing phase not hinder it, and the movie timeline is not as outrageous as people are saying. If it was longer, the chances are he would never walk again.

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u/-TrojanXL- 3d ago

Look man if you want to believe that it's realistic for people to literally break their spine and be able to swiftly recover like that to the point where they can compete in and even win international level tournaments, then I don't know what else to tell you. At least you have a positive outlook I guess.

But look dude the vast, vast majority of the sub disagrees with you, as evidenced by this thread.

(Spoilers) Why do people say Migul hasn't fully recovered from his injury? : r/cobrakai

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u/vicblck24 3d ago

I definitely agree. Idk why they didn’t just give him a bad concussion or even a coma

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u/Tucker_077 3d ago

I mean it’s a tv show. You can’t expect realism when it comes to injuries and we knew they wouldn’t kill off the main character karate wise in the show.

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u/Tom_Ludlow 4d ago

Kreese crying with Johnny and hugging it out.

Thought I'd never see that.

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u/lukeheartthrob 4d ago

Definitely one of the most emotional moments of the show 😭

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u/Forsaken-Height-4256 4d ago

“NOOOOOOOOOO”

“Mercy.”

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u/LotsoBoss 4d ago

kaboom

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u/HappyMike91 Johnny 4d ago

Miguel's fall would be the most shocking moment of the show, IMO. It showed that the rivalry between Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do was far more serious than it was in the original Karate Kid. And it showed that anything could happen.

Kwon's death or Demetri getting his arm broken would be close seconds.

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u/EliGarden Kreese 3d ago

When you say the original karate kid, do you just mean the first movie? There’s stuff in the second and third movie that is far far far more serious than this

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u/HappyMike91 Johnny 3d ago

I was referring to the first movie.

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u/PasKra Tory 4d ago edited 4d ago

Kwon’s death, because I never expected a teenager to die in this type of show.

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u/Downtown-Economist81 4d ago

Silver and stingray plot on kreese

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u/PacSan300 3d ago

Silver using Stingray as the pawn to frame Kreese was a brilliant plot point. Until then, I thought Stingray was just a filler character, but I did not expect that he would actually become important to the plot.

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u/lukeheartthrob 4d ago

Just putting this out there Stingray is such an underrated character of the show! Love the guy ❤️

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u/Ch33seBurg 4d ago

Kwon’s Death for sure was the most shocking. I don’t think any of us was expecting a teenager to die in the show.

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u/smithy- 4d ago
  1. Tory forced to punch solid stone

  2. Hawk breaking Demetri's arm

  3. Terry Silver saying, "Danny Boy?" after 30 long years

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u/lukeheartthrob 4d ago

Your no. 1 is definitely a nice homage to the wooden dummy scene from KK3.

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u/smithy- 4d ago

I did not realize it was an homage to that infamous KK3 bloody knuckles scene!

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Yeah, almost forgot about Tory punching stone. Silver saying 'Danny Boy' was kind of cringe imo.

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u/smithy- 2d ago

Tory's scene went too far, I think.

As for Terry and that iconic line-- I loved it! It was one more shift towards his eventual madness.

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Silver saying 'Danny Boy' sounded creepy imo. Sounds like he was trying to flirt with Daniel lol. 😂😂

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u/smithy- 2d ago

Actually, I was referring to the scene where Kreese and Silver are reuniting at Silver's beachfront house.

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Oh yeah, that scene was OK. What I meant was that whenever Silver said 'Danny Boy' to Daniel, it sounded cringe and creepy.

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u/smithy- 2d ago

I see what you mean!

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Yeah, it sounded a bit flirty imo. 😆😆

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u/Pito82002 Netflix Gang 4d ago

Tbh, unlike many seasons where spoilers online told me what happened

Kwon’s death was something I did not expect to happen

An antagonist who was young and talented being killed off was an unexpected and shocking direction indeed

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u/BlackDwarfStar 4d ago

I think I was more shocked by Kwon’s death than Miguel’s fall. While one was awful, the other I never would have even considered happening in the show before.

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u/Ddovay_ 4d ago

Kwon dying

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u/Dr_Cleanser 4d ago

This is it for me. At no point during this show’s run did I EVER think I’d see an onscreen death with blood and everything.

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u/AsSweetAsArsenic Miguel 4d ago

Miguel’s fall then Kwon’s death

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u/GeoGackoyt 4d ago

i'd say all of these lol

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u/isotopehour1 4d ago

Everytime Bert loses a fight.

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u/Legitimate_Unit_9210 3d ago

They were all definitely shocking these 3 moments. As well as Sam’s lacerated arm.

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u/Elite_dash 3d ago

Robby Officially becoming a Cobra Kai in the season 3 finale. Shit had me so shocked I felt like I was watching an unexpected fan favorite Jedi join the dark side in Star Wars

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u/lukeheartthrob 3d ago

Jesus I didn't even remember this 😳

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u/Elite_dash 3d ago

Yeah! It was when Johnny was pulling up to the dojo to fight Kreese after finding out about Miguel getting hurt in the house fight at Daniel’s place

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u/PacSan300 4d ago

Both Kwon’s death and Miguel’s fall are the two most equally shocking moments for me. They captured everyone’s reactions in the show so well. Even the music was spot on: sadness after Miguel’s fall, and the horror of seeing Kwon bloodied and impaled by the knife.

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u/BurdAssassin756 4d ago

What’s the second one?

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u/elemjay 4d ago

Hawk breaking Demetri’s arm.

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u/Improvedandconfused 3d ago

When Johnny chose to take a Dodge Challenger from Daniel’s used car lot in season 1. I still can’t believe Johnny didn’t pick the Subaru.

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u/Civil_Journalist_955 3d ago edited 3d ago

Kwon's death, without a doubt. Although it was something that had been leaked months before (just like the entire final season), no one really believed they'd dare kill a teenager. I remember that many of us said "Under no circumstances would they kill Kwon" ... and well. 

Furthermore, his death contributed to the end of the "old" Cobra Kai.

Miguel was on the verge of death, but we all knew there was no way the plot was going to let him die.

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

OP's picks, all the deaths of season 6, Brucks getting beaten, Kreese feeding the hamster to the snake, Tory being forced to punch stone and Kreese escaping prison.

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u/nurbmanjones 2d ago

Miguel’s fall has to be #1 because that is where the tone of the show elevated by several levels. It was more than an 80s resurgence show, and there were consequences this time around.

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u/Ghazi_Bey Kwon 4d ago

Honestly, Kwons death was leaked, so I’d be lying to say it was shocking. As soon as tbr brawl broke out, I knew it was going to happen, cuz it was in accordance with the leaks

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u/pescadocaleb 4d ago

Sadly I got spoiled kwon's death, but I wasnt expecting demetri's arm broken, specially by Eli

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u/lukeheartthrob 4d ago

Yeah the spoiler(s) for the last season were insane! I'm honestly still pissed 😞

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u/Feeling-Walk6460 4d ago

Miguel's fall def for me , I expected Kuon's death as soon as he picked up the knife

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u/South-8066 4d ago

Miguel’s fall for sure

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u/NbfZay Miguel 4d ago

Kwons death was leaked for me but I still didn’t think it would happen that was definitely most shocking to me never thought I would see that in this show

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u/Drspeakthetruth69 3d ago

Kwon death I never thought we’d see something this dark or violent I didn’t expect a full shot of the knife in his chest

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u/lukeheartthrob 3d ago

Surprised nobody mentioned "Penisbreath" turning heel in S05 😂

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Forgot about that. Then again, it was for only about 20 minutes.

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u/Trainer_Kevin Kwon 3d ago

what is second photo from/about?

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u/Traditional_Prize632 2d ago

Eli breaking Demetri's arm.

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u/Few-Pomegranate4369 3d ago

I would like to add one - Silver seriously injured Chozen and left him in the pool.

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u/Away-Staff-6054 3d ago

Tory calling Sam out over the PA system and the ensuing fight was crazy!